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01:18 [Francesco] anyone has tested t3blog here ? what do you think about it ? There's a risk that it will become unsupported (and so not secure) in the future, as it happened for timtab ?
01:33 chefan there is always a risk, things don't get less secure without making them less secure, there is no unsupported with open source if the codebase is any good and the extension is in good use
01:35 chefan wb dinsdale07
01:36 dinsdale07 It so happens every month that I have to restart my laptop :-)
01:37 chefan why?
01:38 dinsdale07 It got too slow - I only have a celeron 1.5
01:40 dinsdale07 chefan, I enjoyed our conversation earlier on, haven't had the time to get further into it though.
01:41 dinsdale07 currently trying to get the new t3blog extension running - have you tried it?
01:43 chefan nope, i am not so bloggish right now
01:43 chefan mor like erpish
01:44 chefan does restarting help with getting slow? are you using windows?
01:45 dinsdale07 erpish ... ? nop, ubuntu 8.04, guess it's an old habit to restart if something is not working :-)
01:45 chefan lol
01:45 chefan well, ubuntu became so close to windows over the time that rebooting might even help
01:46 chefan erpish as in erp
01:46 dinsdale07 Enterprise Ressource planning?
01:47 chefan synaptic just recently fubared my cam, and i still don't know which update is responsible
01:47 chefan yep
01:48 dinsdale07 unfortunately there is no perfect OS - one release something works - the next they break it again.
01:48 chefan apart of that totem insists on going to fullscreen and then going into zombie mode, denying me access to the desktop
01:48 dinsdale07 you're using totem for videos?
01:48 chefan yep. i have to pick up my flash on freebsd project again, or alternatively opensolaris
01:49 chefan totem comes preinstalled with xubuntu as default movieplayer
01:49 dinsdale07 I only use vlc these days - it just plays about anything you throw at it and the codecs are included.
01:49 chefan i have vlc and mplayer installed too
01:51 dinsdale07 I still like ubuntu, despite all minor glitches one encounters over time. It's great having the same OS for your server, your desktop. I have about 7 vm's running.
01:53 dinsdale07 flash on freebsd - are you working on a port?
01:59 chefan no, not without source code for the flash player
01:59 chefan more a recipe which browser with which wrapper and which linux-compat library to use for flash support
02:00 chefan or alternatively a way to get the solaris binary to run
02:01 chefan or if anything else fails, an encapsulated vm with a minimal winxp and a browser with windows flashplugin
02:01 chefan basically the win would only have to run the browser :D
02:01 chefan vm with kiosk mode so to say
02:03 dinsdale07 what do you think about gnash?
02:04 chefan everytime they achieve something, it's already outdated
02:04 chefan the manpower wasted on gnash would be better placed in enhancing jmf
02:05 chefan and/or adding more bells and whistles to swing
02:05 chefan which would pretty much bury flash
02:07 chefan no offense meant to the gnash people
02:08 chefan they do what they believe in
02:08 dinsdale07 I think the main advantage of flash is that it is widely deployed on most browsers. Unfortunately because it's closed source you are with your OS at the mercy of 1 company.
02:08 chefan well
02:08 chefan java isn't?
02:08 dinsdale07 which I still remember painfully with my ubuntu 64 bit.
02:08 chefan there is no advantage of a flash app over a java browser applet
02:09 dinsdale07 I though java is open sourced now.
02:09 chefan never mattered much
02:10 dinsdale07 maybe in the endresult there is no difference. I personally don't program much in flash, but my gf is a designer and works with flash.
02:10 dinsdale07 I couldn't imagine her picking up java though.
02:10 chefan most of the everyday use libraries are open source anyway, and the code for the underlying vm is not really important i think
02:11 chefan take the test
02:11 chefan make her check out swing
02:11 chefan there is some lack of eyecandy support
02:11 chefan compared to flash
02:12 chefan and of course, some code generator for dummygenerated app production would be a great idea
02:12 chefan to keep the overhead away from the artists
02:12 chefan but that is exactly what i am talking about
02:12 dinsdale07 I think it starts with an IDE, she can tweak code here and there, but explaining her an if else clause cost me lots of energy :-)
02:13 chefan if all the manpower going in reverse engineering and reinventing flash went there, flash could already be history
02:13 chefan oO
02:13 chefan mvc ;)
02:13 dinsdale07 It starts in schools, especially designers only learn adobe apps, that's all they know.
02:15 dinsdale07 there is certainly a need for flash and I think there are even worst technologies. -> silverlight.
02:17 dinsdale07 flash is a necessity just for videos for example. And the w3c is too slow to push specifications into html to support videos.
02:19 chefan well, video audio support for javascript would be the flashkiller :)
02:19 dinsdale07 mvc is definately on my todo list tomorrow . Good thing about being your own boss, you write your own schedule :-)
02:19 chefan especially with the upcomming jit compilers
02:19 dinsdale07 jit for javascript?
02:21 chefan ff 3.1 is scheduled for a new javascript engine
02:21 dinsdale07 I think it's amazing what you can do with javascript libraries these days. but the problem is similar to what we discussed for php earlier. it's an ugly language which needs framework implementation to make it useable
02:25 chefan well
02:25 chefan action script isn't?
02:25 chefan who cares about the uglyness of a language, if you click components together with a gui anyway?
02:26 chefan and well written code in javascript is not as ugly as php, and to my mind with better readability
02:27 dinsdale07 true, the problem is more the browser implementation with javascript.
02:28 dinsdale07 so what do you think is the most beautiful language ?
02:29 [Francesco] there's a way to show catmenu in all page with templavoila ?
02:30 [Francesco] i succesful show the catmenu in all page, sliding with kb_tv_slide_content
02:30 dinsdale07 [Francesco], did you just answer your own question in 15 seconds?
02:30 [Francesco] but the link of category point to wrong link, i mean they point to the same page where 's
02:31 dinsdale07 [Francesco], did you set the backpid or listpid in tt_news?
02:32 [Francesco] backid setted. listpid....hummm if it exists i did not setted
02:32 [Francesco] *set
02:35 [Francesco] i think should be a way to say to typo that category link in catmenu must point to the only page where's placed the LIST element of tt_news.
02:39 chefan dinsdale07: gaelic ;)
02:39 dinsdale07 I think that should be the backpid.
02:43 [Francesco] the backpid tell typo3 where should point the "come back to the xxxx page"
02:43 [Francesco] link
02:44 [Francesco] you can have it dinamic ( go to prev page ) or static (the backid )
02:44 dinsdale07 chefan, lol - I think I found a replacement for my lorem ipsum: http://gd.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%AComh-Dhuilleag
02:46 dinsdale07 [Francesco], on my page my category links point to the set backpid.
02:47 dinsdale07 http://www.groleauguitares.com/index.php?id=guitare_singleview&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=55&tx_ttnews[cat]=3&tx_ttnews[backPid]=11&cHash=c4389875f8
02:48 dinsdale07 look at the [backPid] in the link,
02:49 [Francesco] hummmmm
02:50 [Francesco] then i think it's a matter of realurl, i think my realurl settings don't catch the tx_ttnews[backPid]
02:51 dinsdale07 actually on this page I also set "PageId to return to" in the flexform of the plugin.
02:53 [Francesco] humm but in your sites catmenu appear only in onw page not in all page.
02:55 dinsdale07 2, it appears in single and list view. maybe you have to find a way to set the flexform value by default if there is no TS.
02:58 dinsdale07 I just removed the setting in the flexform and it still points to backpid. which version of tt_news do you have?
02:58 [Francesco] the last. www.mygeekmemos.com
02:59 [Francesco] the root is the container of news item. It also has the LIST element, and the CATMENU. the single view page is a child page.
02:59 [Francesco] all content is slided to child page element
02:59 [Francesco] i'm using templavolia
02:59 [Francesco] from home page, the catmenu work well
03:00 [Francesco] but if you go to a child page (i.e. single view o search result) and clic on catmenu link
03:00 [Francesco] than it stop to works
03:00 [Francesco] *then
03:00 dinsdale07 it's difficult to see with realurl switched on.
03:01 [Francesco] yep
03:02 [Francesco] i suppose to disable it i need to uninstall and also delete the apache settings in .htaccess
03:02 dinsdale07 maybe you just can rename .htaccess and switch off realurl in typo3 temporarily
03:07 [Francesco] the LIST page is the same where you have the SINGLE ?
03:07 [Francesco] i mean the id page.
03:08 [Francesco] the answer is no
03:08 [Francesco] just looked at your url
03:08 [Francesco] :)
03:09 dinsdale07 yes, i didnt' know realurl back then :-) actually my backpid is pointing to a shortcut page which goes to guitare-list.
03:10 [Francesco] hummm i see your single view url has the cat id, too.
03:10 [Francesco] mine no @_@
03:10 [Francesco] maybe is 03.30 here and i need to rest :P
03:10 dinsdale07 are you maybe overwriting the backpid again somewhere in you ts?
03:12 [Francesco] humm i setted dontUseBackPid = 1
03:12 [Francesco] i think this is the key
03:12 [Francesco] nope
03:15 dinsdale07 what happens if you add a catmenu as plugin and set it via the flexforms.
03:17 [Francesco] as plugin ?
03:17 [Francesco] you mean typoscript plugin ?
03:18 dinsdale07 no, as templavoila plugin. just like I have without the content_slide.
03:18 [Francesco] ah you mean in each page ?
03:18 dinsdale07 no, just as a test.
03:18 [Francesco] i already use a plugin for catmenu
03:19 [Francesco] in the root page
03:19 dinsdale07 and there i doesn't work either?
03:19 [Francesco] the strange thing is that my news url lacks the tx_ttnews[cat] part
03:19 [Francesco] it doesn't work if i go in page different from page where's the LIST plugin
03:24 [Francesco] ok the tx_ttnews[cat] is not there because i don't filter by category, the news
03:52 Kokloco Hi all
03:53 Kokloco I am confussing trying to finde where can I change the styles of the input components that Typo3 puts wiht the standard forms componentes, whenever I try to do so from my css page it doesnt work, Any help? thanks
03:56 Kokloco 37 people in the channel, none is speakeing, whenever I get this channel I never get a response, sofar since I started to learn Typo U coulnt find any response or support to my questions..Is this some kind of closed "club" or somehitng? it is really anoyning
03:58 Kokloco You knwo what? FUCK YOU ALL BASTARDS
03:58 dinsdale07 Kokloco, most people are asleep and still have their irc running, No reason to get upset. Just check back in later.
04:12 chefan i feel bad now
04:13 chefan people throw loads of money at me for support with a platform they paid even more loads of money for, and i am not even able to answer questions immediatly at 0:30
04:13 chefan i think i will just go fuck myself
04:19 theduke have fun
04:21 chefan thanks :)
07:28 nkuttler priceless this kokloco guy :D good morning btw
07:33 dinsdale07 good morning nkuttler , amazing the ignorance of some people - what?
07:36 nkuttler patience is a virtue :) some channels has some everybody is idling so wait here in their topic. not that i think that's really necessary though
08:32 dec_ is it possible to configure real url to have a different base url depending on what url they used to get to the site? (www.domain.com and http://secure.domain.com)
09:08 nkuttler dec___: iirc there are examples how to do that in the docs
09:09 dec___ alright
09:10 nkuttler oh wait, do you mean the baseurl setting?
09:10 dec_ yeah, i'm guessing i'll need some kind of conditional statement
09:10 dec_ but can't find what exactly
09:10 nkuttler hm, i've switched to absrefprefix, hate baseurl
09:11 dec_ hah
09:13 MasterYin`work Hey Everyone :)
09:14 dec_ lo
09:17 MasterYin`work Does anyone know if there is an Extension for the collection of bounties? I'm realising my Wedding-Page with T3 and want to give the Chance to spend some Money for it...
09:17 dec_ i think i saw one on forge, worked with paypall
09:18 dec_ can't remember exact name though, take a look in the list
09:25 _pedda_ hi all
09:25 MasterYin`work do you have the link to the list?
09:26 dec_ sec
09:26 dec_ http://forge.typo3.org/projects
09:27 dec_ there's an extension called Donations
09:27 dec_ no idea if its any good though
09:30 MasterYin`work it looks good and francois is leader... seams to be good :)
09:34 dec_ bit of an offtopic question really, but #ispconfig is invite only :/, does anyone have experiecnce setting up ssl in ispconfig and making it work with typo3?
09:38 mirelon hi i have problem, when i log in typo3 on localhost, nothing is displayed in browser, only some php code: charSet. $charSet = $this->initCharset(); $generator = $this->generator();
09:38 mirelon and much more
09:39 dec_ and youre already logged in into typo3?
09:39 dec_ or is it the login page itself?
09:40 mirelon login page displays some code and that textfileds, so i can log in
09:40 mirelon and then only the code
09:41 dec_ sounds like php is not installed properly
09:41 mirelon i alreaddy figured out, that the code is from typo3/template.php from line 605
09:41 dec_ try adding a page in your localhost called test.php and do a <?php echo 'hi'; ?>
09:41 mirelon i have wamp with standard config
09:42 _pedda_ which typo3 version are you trying ?
09:42 _pedda_ and which version of php does your wamp offer ?
09:43 mirelon 5.2.6
09:43 mirelon other projects on localhost works fine
09:43 _pedda_ other projects = typo3 ?
09:44 mirelon no
09:45 mirelon how can i get the typo3 version?
09:45 _pedda_ where did you get your files from ?
09:45 _pedda_ files of typo3
09:45 _pedda_ from typo3.org ?
09:45 mirelon i have joined some project and copied the files
09:46 _pedda_ ah ok
09:46 mirelon so maybe it is old version of typo3...but that code wasnt displaying
09:47 mirelon only yesterday it began...i wanted to create a plugin and maybe i did something wrong
09:47 _pedda_ did you install your plugin yesterday too ?
09:47 mirelon yes
09:48 _pedda_ if so .. you can look in the typo3conf/localconf.php for the extensionkey/pluginname and remove it..
09:48 _pedda_ if it is removed its uninstalled also
09:49 mirelon there is only extension list, not their plugins
09:49 _pedda_ you wanted to create a plugin
09:50 _pedda_ what do you mean by creating a plugin ?
09:50 _pedda_ creating an extension ?
09:50 mirelon edit extension in kickstarter and add plugin
09:50 mirelon and write files
09:50 _pedda_ which extension did you edit ?
09:50 mirelon some local
09:51 _pedda_ one of the sysextension ?
09:51 _pedda_ s
09:51 mirelon no
09:51 mirelon i dont think it caused this, i think something is wrong with typo3 itself
09:51 mirelon in typo3/ folder
09:52 mirelon i looked in the code what is included and found the point where php is no longer executed, but printed
09:52 mirelon typo3/template.php line 605
09:53 _pedda_ if it's the fault of typo3.. you shouldn't be able to log in yesterday
09:54 _pedda_ *shouldn't have been..
09:54 mirelon yes, i understand...
09:54 _pedda_ what is the name of the extension you modified ?
09:55 mirelon mm_static_text
09:55 mirelon now i think...if copying files from server did not cause it...
09:56 mirelon and then i tried to repair it and reverted typo3 folder back, but nothing changed
09:58 mirelon long time ago i also noticed somewhere, that some php code leaked to the browser, but that got somehow repaired itself...
09:59 mirelon i ran out of keywords for googling it..
10:01 _pedda_ perhaps you should copy the project to your local machine one again into adifferent folder
10:01 _pedda_ and den cypo the extensions you modified step by step to lacate your problem ?!
10:07 mirelon i ll try it
10:08 MasterYin`work Anyone here having expirience with Mailformplus and sr_freecap?
10:09 dec_ how do i manually add a plugin to an extension, so without using kickstarter
10:10 _pedda_ define plugin
10:10 dec_ frontend plugin, like pi1, pi2
10:10 _pedda_ ah
10:11 dec_ t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43($_EXTKEY, 'pi1/class.tx_blogs_pi1.php', '_pi1', 'list_type', 1);
10:11 dec_ is it this yeah?
10:11 _pedda_ sorry .. i've never made extensions nor developed plugins
10:11 dec_ alright :)
10:28 mirelon dec_: i realized one think - the whole project works fine, only the typo3 displays wrong
10:29 mirelon so it wont be problem with an extension
10:29 dec_ but the problem occured after installing the extension, yea?
10:29 _pedda_ but your extension could mess up the backend
10:30 mirelon but the files that was written could not...
10:30 dec_ try and remove the extension key from localconf.php, so it doesn't get loaded
10:30 mirelon i already deleted them anyway
10:31 mirelon ok, i tried it...and nothing changed
10:31 dec_ delete the cached files too
10:31 _pedda_ temp_cached within typo3conf
10:34 mirelon ok, deleted browser cache...and that cached files, restarted wamp services...nothing changed
10:34 dec_ ugh
10:34 dec_ remove the files from the ext folder as well
10:35 mirelon i still think that if it is typo3 that doesnt display, it may be caused by something in typo3 folder or config
10:36 dec_ yes, but if it worked fine before installing the extension, then thats not the problem
10:36 dec_ you could always just reinstall typo3 in a fresh project folder, create a db dump, import it and see if it has the same problem
10:36 mirelon more things have been done between it worked and does not work
10:37 dec_ such as?
10:37 mirelon copied files from server and changed only some configs as database access, base href...
10:38 dec_ does the frontend still work?
10:38 mirelon yes
10:38 dec_ no clue then, i would still try a fresh install
10:39 mirelon did you ever seen php source code leak? i have already 3 times...but this is first of my project
10:39 dec_ only when php wasn't configured properly, which isn't the case here i don't think ;)
10:40 mirelon and googling php source code leak returns only facebook
10:40 dec_ heh
10:40 dec_ maybe add typo3 to your search query
11:04 nd_ How do I manipulate images with IM from t3-api? I don't find the keyword to search for
11:05 nd_ Only via IMAGE object? I thought I saw the various commands some time ago
11:05 maholtz|WORK GIFBUILDER?
11:05 nd_ Dunno... not particlular gifs... I want to resize images uploaded with my extensions
11:06 maholtz|WORK do it via typoscript and transfer config to your extension
11:06 maholtz|WORK use IMAGE Object for that
11:06 nd_ Ok, so I will read into that
11:06 maholtz|WORK $this->cObj-cImage($conf)
11:07 maholtz|WORK and give the user the possibility to alter config via typoscript - so you can change some values without altering php code:)
11:07 nd_ yes, that is already in there
11:07 nd_ just needed how to work with those numbers :)
11:08 maholtz|WORK ? which numbers?
11:08 maholtz|WORK $conf['file.']['width'] = 100; ?
11:08 nd_ The numbers added to my setup.txt (and maybe changed by the user)
11:18 nd_ maholtz|WORK: From reading the cObj documentation cImage is about getting an img-tag back... but I want to just execute image magick on my file (permanently)
11:18 lilalinux I'm looking for a glossary extension that let's me link keywords of bodytext to existing pages, however I don't want to enter the fulltext for that keyword as a separate datastructure like sg_glossary does. I want to simply add keywords to a page and link all occurences of that keyword anywhere to that page.
11:20 maholtz|WORK @nd_: ? you should not change the image - you should only render a new image, if you want to output it. If you crop it now, perhaps you want to undo it in a month - not possible!
11:20 maholtz|WORK there is no need to
11:20 nd_ maholtz|WORK: Nay... all user-uploaded images should get resized to maxWidth permanently
11:24 maholtz|WORK @nd_: do not know, if it is possible with TYPO3 ... but a trick could do it: create the image with IMG_RESSOURCE and remove it to your upload folder, unlick the original image and rename the new...
11:24 maholtz|WORK but i dont understand why... there is no need to (except saving space?)
11:27 nd_ well, lemme see
11:34 lilalinux Would it be easy difficult to create a glossary only with typoscript? maybe via parsefunc?
11:34 lilalinux -easy
11:37 maholtz|WORK dont know, tell me if you have it done...
11:38 maholtz|WORK have to go now cu
11:48 TaucherMK lilalinux: I'm not sure if I got what you really want. You speak about a glossary, so you have a page where glossary entries are stored and you want to link what in bodytext?
11:49 lilalinux TaucherMK: I have a dedicated page for each keyword
11:50 TaucherMK ah
11:50 lilalinux now I want occurences of these keywords on any page to be linked to that dedicated page
11:50 lilalinux all the existing extensions feature a custom data structure, but i don't want that
11:50 TaucherMK perhaps you can use the rte parse function
11:51 TaucherMK or you can check how the other glossary ext replace the keywords and use the snippets
11:52 lilalinux hm, reverse engineering, good idea :-)
11:55 michael301080 hi All.
11:55 lilalinux I could use the Metadata->keywords field
11:55 michael301080 I'm interested in how the URL mapping is done in T3
11:56 michael301080 could someone tell me where to look in the code?
11:56 mirelon dec_: the problem was solved - there was a short open tag <? (i had to look in the source instead of displayed code)
11:57 lilalinux michael301080: what url mapping? do youmean realurl?
11:58 michael301080 possibly, I'm sorry but I'm not really familiar with the typo3 terminology
11:58 michael301080 lilalinux: what does realurl do?
11:59 michael301080 googling realurl now
12:00 dec_ mirelon: that's good, someone forgot the coding standards then
12:00 dec_ michael301080: real url rewrites your url's to seo friendly ones, or 'human readable'
12:01 michael301080 dec_: thx
12:01 lilalinux http://letmegooglethatforyou/?q=realurl
12:01 michael301080 \me checks http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/realurl/1.5.3/view/ now
12:03 dec_ how do you make mirc flash again when your nick appears?
12:03 dec_ can't find it in settings :<
12:05 lilalinux dec_: => #mirc
12:06 Denyerec dec_ it's under alerts
12:06 Denyerec view -> options -> IRC -> Highlight
12:06 Denyerec you'll find all you need there.
12:07 Denyerec of course he won't see that, because his nick isn't higlghting... :D
12:42 lilalinux How can I make "bar" to be a typolink with this ts:
12:42 lilalinux page.stdWrap.parseFunc.short {
12:42 lilalinux FOO = bar
12:42 lilalinux }
13:00 lilalinux *cough*
13:00 dec_ have you looked in the tsref?
13:01 dec_ http://wiki.typo3.org/TSref/typolink
13:03 lilalinux I'm currently using FOO = <LINK 42>bar</LINK> and trying to parseFunc that again
13:03 lilalinux without success yet
13:04 dec_ hmm
13:05 dec_ i know the rte from htmlarea does the same thing, maybe look how theyve done it?
13:08 dre hi people, i have indexed_search running. It works so far. But the problem is I have a sysfolder with items (blog items) that are not on pages. Is it possible to index those?
13:09 _pedda_ yreate an indexing configuration in that folder for indexed search (use list mode and create icon)
13:09 _pedda_ and define to index only blog records
13:09 _pedda_ changing index type to records
13:12 dre hmm where can i change index type to records?
13:13 _pedda_ klick list in web-module
13:13 _pedda_ click then on your sysfolder
13:13 _pedda_ click create new record, and choos indexing configuration
13:14 _pedda_ chosse
13:14 _pedda_ hmpf
13:14 dre yes i did that
13:14 _pedda_ choose
13:14 _pedda_ and now you have a selectbox at the bottom
13:14 dre i see type but not records
13:14 dre yes true
13:14 _pedda_ there you can chose pagetree and records
13:14 _pedda_ mom
13:14 dre database records?
13:15 _pedda_ yes
13:15 dre ah ok
13:15 _pedda_ there you can click on the blogicon..
13:15 _pedda_ and define the indexing
13:15 dre lets see
13:17 _pedda_ see the docu for further instructions
13:18 _pedda_ http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/doc_indexed_search/4.2.1/view/1/4/
13:20 dre ok thank you very much
13:22 dec_ i have a question, i created a custom 404 page in the root of my website, configured the install tool to show that page whenever an error occurs.. will google know it should not index this page?
13:29 _pedda_ probably no.. but yesterday i was told .. a robots.txt should be created to avoid indexing of pages.. you can define which of your pages shouldn't become indexed in the robots.txt
13:29 dec_ yeah
13:29 dec_ not sure i can just put in: Disallow: 404.html though
13:29 _pedda_ why not ?
13:30 dec_ hmm actually i could lol
13:50 smeringe ey. anyone know how to use multiple values in a displayCond option? in TCA for a field that is..
14:14 lilalinux In case anyone is interested in my typoscript only glossary function:
14:14 lilalinux http://rafb.net/p/mr6Cqf64.html
14:16 lilalinux That's a 4-liner!!!
14:23 lilalinux expected
14:24 _pedda_ hmm.. the're all out for lunch
14:24 SAT Hi, I am new to t3, while applying new template the whole site is down and i am seeing error: "The page is not configured! [type= 0][]"
14:25 lilalinux jm, that rings a bell
14:25 lilalinux hm
14:25 lilalinux do you use templavoila?
14:25 SAT I replaced the template folder with my backup, and now if i go to edit page i can't see any template there
14:25 SAT yes
14:25 SAT instead i see this error: Data Structure ERROR: No source value in fieldname "tx_templavoila_ds"
14:26 lilalinux edit the template and see if there are warnings or errors
14:26 SAT i am very new to it and don't even know many terms there
14:26 SAT shall i go to templavila?
14:26 lilalinux SAT: yeah, that can be quite confusing
14:26 lilalinux SAT: yes
14:26 SAT ok, thanks, let me chk plz, i am in a big prob :(
14:27 _pedda_ check if the correct sysfolder is selected under general storage page of your root site
14:29 lilalinux You should have something like this in your Template's Setup:
14:29 lilalinux page = PAGE
14:29 lilalinux page {
14:29 lilalinux config.doctype = xhtml_strict
14:29 lilalinux config.xmlprologue = none
14:29 lilalinux typeNum = 0
14:29 lilalinux 10 = USER
14:29 lilalinux 10.userFunc = tx_templavoila_pi1->main_page
14:29 lilalinux }
14:29 SAT i am confused at very first step
14:30 lilalinux I know how you feel :-)
14:31 SAT :(
14:31 SAT let me get used to it
14:32 SAT hmmm its quite confusing, what if i upload my working backup?
14:32 SAT my site is deployed in subfolder and i've this complete backup
14:33 SAT shall i replace it with my backup?
14:33 lilalinux SAT: did it work before?
14:33 _pedda_ SAT it's just a small issue
14:33 lilalinux then you could step back using the "Log" in the sidebar
14:34 SAT actually one of my friend tried to play with template, while installilng new template he got "Interna server error" and after that whole site is down
14:34 SAT let me have a look on side bar
14:34 dec_ SAT: check your template file
14:34 dec_ it might be half empty or something during saving
14:34 SAT If you have time, can you connect to my laptop through teamviewer.com?
14:35 lilalinux unfortunately i have no time
14:35 SAT ok no prob
14:35 SAT i'll try to see in logs
14:35 lilalinux but the history should heal you :-)
14:35 dec_ you should check your template file, if its corrupted for some reason all you have to do is replace the file with your backup
14:37 SAT yes this i did, but on some point it was saying that your template file is old and you have to remap it bla bla
14:38 dec_ nah, all you have to do is open templavoila, click your template file [Update mapping]
14:38 dec_ press Save & Return
14:38 SAT ok let me try
14:40 lilalinux any idea, how I could limit this http://rafb.net/p/mr6Cqf64.html to <p> only? so that it won't touch heading tags like h1?
14:41 SAT Invalid template values in 1 elements:
14:42 dec_ SAT: i think your template file got changed, check the Log to see if user X saved templatefile recently
14:43 SAT i can expect even worse from him, he definately changed it
14:44 dec_ heh
14:44 SAT but problem is that i've replaced whole template folder including transition etc... from my backup
14:45 SAT now the confusion is that
14:45 SAT in templavoila i can't see my site
14:45 dec_ hmm
14:45 SAT for example my site is /root/seite1
14:45 SAT i can see there /root/seite2
14:45 SAT and some other junk
14:46 dec_ uhu
14:46 dec_ i'm not quite sure tbh
14:46 dec_ there are no mapped templates in templavoila you say?
14:46 dec_ so it says something like
14:46 dec_ storage folder empty
14:46 dec_ or storage folder not found?
14:47 SAT if, on first page it shows mapped template then i have no mapping for my "seite1" but for other like seite2 etc...
14:47 SAT one of the error i am getting while trying to apply template to my site is: Data Structure ERROR: No source value in fieldname "tx_templavoila_ds"
14:48 dec_ edit the page properties of your root page
14:49 dec_ go to tab Options and see if General Record Storage page is set
14:49 SAT ok
14:51 SAT no its empty
14:51 dec_ ok that would be your problem
14:51 dec_ you have a storage folder in your website yeah? the storage point for your templavoila datastructures etc
14:51 SAT you mean /fileadmin/template?
14:52 null +s
14:52 dec_ no, those are html files
14:52 SAT hmmm
14:52 SAT let me have a loook
14:52 dec_ in your pagetree in the backend, the gray looking folders
14:52 dec_ its usually called Storage Folder or TemplaVoila
14:52 SAT ok let me see
14:55 SAT Ok if i click browse it shows me /root and also seite1 seite2 etc...
14:55 SAT seite1 is my site
14:55 dec_ browse? i ment look through the pagetree in the typo3 backend
14:55 dec_ the same tree where you just clicked your root page
14:57 SAT i can see root and under here is seite1, then beside root there are news, lexikon, Gallery, www, groups
14:57 SAT this you mean?
14:57 dec_ doubtful
14:57 dec_ in the typo3 backend go to Page, or List
14:58 dec_ expand the page tree and look for a gray looking (storage) folder
14:58 SAT yes i clicked Page and now its showing me pagetree in middle window
14:58 dec_ ok
14:58 dec_ look for 1 of those folders
14:59 SAT now grey looking is "Seite1"
14:59 dec_ ok
14:59 SAT rest have other icons
14:59 dec_ click on it then click list
14:59 dec_ do u see anything that looks like TemplaVoila Template Object, TemplaVoila Data Structure
15:00 SAT do you have time, if i connect you to my desktop? it seems that its not a big work but i am taking your alot of time because of lack of knowledge?
15:00 dec_ how would we do that?
15:01 SAT you can downlaod free teamviewer.com
15:01 SAT its around 1.4mb file
15:01 SAT i'll give you id and pass and you'll be on my computer
15:01 dec_ k
15:01 SAT thx
15:02 dre hello people, i ve used indexed_search with indexing configuration.. works great only these types are in a sysfolder and i can't link to sysfolder. Can i adjust the links in "GET parameter string (with ###UID### substitution):" field?
15:03 SAT dec_ do u have MSN? so that we can talk while you are on my computer?
15:03 dec_ (obscured mail address)
15:04 leroy hello people, i ve used indexed_search with indexing configuration.. works great only these types are in a sysfolder and i can't link to sysfolder. Can i adjust the links in "GET parameter string (with ###UID### substitution):" field?
15:04 dec_ no need to ask twice within 3 minutes
15:05 SAT dec_ just added you
15:05 dec_ not had a message yet, you spelled my name right? you wouldnt be the first one
15:05 SAT :)
15:05 SAT let me double chk
15:07 SAT yes mine typo
15:07 SAT did again
15:34 johann__ hi, does anybody know someone who is able to provide typo3 support in munich?
15:35 johann__ (if it's allowed to ask questions like this here, budget and work for > 6 months available)
15:37 leroy hello people, i ve used indexed_search with indexing configuration.. works great only these types are in a sysfolder and i can't link to sysfolder. Can i adjust the links in "GET parameter string (with ###UID### substitution):" field?
15:46 |Xabbu johann__: : Did you already ask in your local User-Group?
15:50 johann__ yes
15:50 |Xabbu johann__: there is a newsgroup on news.netfielders.de called "typo3.ug.muenchen" which might be able to help you out.
15:56 |Xabbu @all does anyone know of an extension to create a simple poll / survey like the one on http://www.heilsarmee.de/nhq/public/hmtitel-2008.php#start ? I tried "simplesurvey" and "pbsurvey" but could not include Puictures in my answer.
16:14 ockmonix hello
16:16 _pedda_ hello
16:21 |Xabbu Ho ockmonix!
16:22 ockmonix is anyone going to T3BOARD09?
16:24 nd_ sadly not
17:08 johnson hey
17:10 johnson_hh does anyone know how to set the main menu point active when im in a sub site of the menu point?
17:14 tobi_t3w you can use the .ACT for that johnson_hh
17:20 johnson_hh so the main menu point reacts at the state ACT even if its a submenu point that is open?
17:22 tobi_t3w yes
17:22 lilalinux exactly
17:22 lilalinux don't forget to activate .ACT = 1
17:32 _pedda_ can someone explain me this: 10 < plugin.tx_srfeuserregister_pi1 - ERROR: Line 3697: Object copied in this line "10 < plugin.tx_srfeuserregister_pi1" would leave
17:33 _pedda_ why this should be wrong
17:42 [Francesco] hallo
18:45 gehdan using templavoila and TypoScriptObjectPath, can i reference multiple objects?
18:53 muntje hi
18:53 muntje how can i install templates with .3td extension?
18:53 muntje or where can i find a good tutorial for this?
18:55 gehdan right-click on the site-tree and select import .3td
18:57 muntje thanks.i'll try it
18:58 muntje that works!
18:59 muntje now i have a different type of template with instructions of pasting text in constants and setup
18:59 muntje i did that but i see no result
19:00 muntje and if it works how can i select the new template?
19:00 [Francesco] are you trying to install a pre-made template ?
19:01 gehdan you probably pasted it into an existing template and didn't clear the cache
19:01 muntje yes it's a premade template
19:02 muntje i'll paste the install instructions from the template and maybe you understand what it means
19:04 muntje http://paste.phlogi.net/template_i-3/
19:04 muntje that are the instructions that come with the template
19:06 _pedda_ cu all
19:07 [Francesco] muntke what you see in front end ?
19:07 [Francesco] an error page ?
19:07 muntje no i have one of the standard templates
19:08 muntje but the third party template is giving me problems
19:08 muntje i don't even get it installed
19:09 muntje http://paste.phlogi.net/-5f22b55856/
19:09 muntje this one is better
19:16 lilalinux which is the right realurl extension?
19:16 lilalinux there are dozens of them
19:18 muntje http://paste.phlogi.net/-5f22b55856/
19:19 muntje or do you mean something else?
19:19 dinsdale07 lilalinux, the original is the one with the version number 1.5.3
19:19 dinsdale07 ext key realurl
19:20 lilalinux hm, I only have "RealURL Configuraton Wizard" in 1.5.3
19:21 lilalinux http://rafb.net/p/Fc3bzv62.html
19:21 lilalinux I can import only these via Ext. Manager
19:21 dinsdale07 hm, strange. And manual upload via TER?
19:21 lilalinux got it
19:21 lilalinux maybe this? RealURL: URLs like normal websites realurl 1.5.2 73460/1201 Stable
19:22 lilalinux but why is it 1.5.2?
19:22 dinsdale07 t3 version too old? - no ext cache update?
19:23 lilalinux I'll take 1.5.2 for now
19:24 [Francesco] when i click on the tt_news pagebrowser link, the MOST POPULAR block disappear. Why ?
19:25 ThanerikDK I now experience a lot trouble with IE and typo3, where I often got a error message "The action is inerrupted" and get in a 404-error page... I can read that it might be some javescript errors - but how can I see it?
19:56 davidbrunnthaler hiho, i'm right now updating my typo3 from 4.1.6 to 4.2.5 but my rtehtmlarea is broken. i tried the tips which i found in the internet but nothing worked for me.. someone here who knows what could cause the problem?
20:16 ThanerikDK some ideas about how I can remove the XHTML's extra slash in meta-tags ( />) ?
20:55 Infox what expectation do you have from flow3
20:55 Infox ?
21:00 ThanerikDK I am in big need of help - my typo3 page have a lot trouble with IE-visitors who got a 404-like error if they want to visit the hompage - but the homepage works VERY fine in Firefox. It's a huge need for me to solve it now. Please
21:01 ThanerikDK I haven't some javescript errors (according to Firefox's developer bar)
21:04 [Francesco] url ?
21:05 ThanerikDK www.dovehistoriskselskab.dk
21:06 Infox I also get an error
21:06 Infox in internet explorer
21:06 Infox firefox is fine
21:07 Infox Why don't you cut the halve of the website code out
21:08 Infox to find out which part of the code causes the error
21:08 Infox Does the error remain if you have no javascript ?
21:09 Infox Your html source shows : <!DOCTYPE html
21:09 Infox and
21:09 Infox PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
21:10 Infox spread over two lines. That's unusual
21:13 Infox are you still there ?
21:18 Infox Check tour HTML through : http://validator.w3.org/
21:26 ThanerikDK I can't get it validated cause of the XHTML /> endings in the metatags
21:27 ThanerikDK I try to cut all the javascripts out now
21:28 Infox What if you take out the : / ?
21:30 ThanerikDK It's the default of Typo3 to add the slash - I can't figure of to remove it... do u know how?
21:32 ThanerikDK And I have found the source of the error: a javascript with random slideshow...
21:33 Infox OK
21:33 ThanerikDK try to isolate the bug
21:33 Infox ok god luck
21:34 Infox good
21:34 Infox bye
21:40 lilalinux Is the parameter "firstHitPathCache" still needed for realurl?
21:47 _pedda_ sometimes ;)
21:47 _pedda_ it protects you from error messages of incompatible extensions sometimes
21:56 lilalinux gude
21:56 lilalinux :-)
21:56 lilalinux _pedda_: how do I skip some directories from realurl?
21:57 lilalinux e.g. I have a toplevel page "main" that shouldn't be mentioned in the url
22:08 lilalinux _pedda_: ping
22:08 lilalinux anyone?
22:09 _pedda_ http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//66633/?howto=1
22:14 lilalinux _pedda_: thx, that can be usefull for renaming a level, but how do I hide a level completely?
22:20 lilalinux got it
22:20 lilalinux BE -> Page Properties -> General -> Exclude from speaking URL:
23:07 [Francesco] how i can split the date in tt_news so i can give different styles to day, month, year ?
23:11 dinsdale07 [Francesco], make that two - I just have the exact same problem :-)
23:11 dinsdale07 I know there is optionsplit but I forgot how to use it ...
23:13 [Francesco] eh i knew it too...and forgot it too :P
23:13 [Francesco] dindsale where you put the category in your site ?
23:13 [Francesco] without using the GPS
23:14 dinsdale07 categories are on list and detail view
23:15 dinsdale07 and I use General record storage page in tt_news
23:16 [Francesco] i mean the category record in backend not the catmenu
23:16 [Francesco] i suppose in the GRS then
23:16 [Francesco] together with news
23:25 dinsdale07 correct
23:30 [Francesco] about the splitting of date i suppose i have to launch 3 times the date_stdWrap.strftime thing and each time try to "grab" only one piece (day or month or year) and then store it in an "object"...then wrap each object in the html i wish.
23:30 [Francesco] all this html should be the ###date## marker -__-"
23:37 [Francesco] hummm...i'm afrai i have to modify tca.php

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