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00:43 caliel we..
01:41 caliel See you. Good night!
06:03 null_ gm
08:41 PiMB morning all
08:55 _pedda_ hi there
09:11 spabhat hi _pedda_
09:12 _pedda_ hi
09:12 _pedda_ :)
09:12 spabhat morning PiMB:)
09:18 krutt|work good morning guys
09:18 _pedda_ moin krutt|work
09:18 krutt|work here a little trouble after my typo3 upgrade to newest
09:19 krutt|work i will take a screenshot.
09:22 kinea someone can explain me, what should be inside feUserData of sr_feuser_register? and what is "fetch" used for? i try to understand the usage and use class.tx_srfeuserregister_email with my extension.
09:23 krutt|work ftp://ftp61249-noone:(obscured mail address)/typo_error.jpg
09:24 krutt|work dont know what to do
09:24 krutt|work typo told me my upgrade was finished successfully
09:25 _pedda_ you did the compat upgrade in installtool ?
09:25 kinea maybe maholtz|WORK ?
09:26 krutt|work _pedda_ yes
09:26 krutt|work and after i finished that, the message that something is not correct, disapears
09:27 krutt|work so, whats wrong
09:27 krutt|work i can give you login if you need
09:28 maholtz|WORK @kinea: sorry, i do not like that extension very well, i do not understand the code too
09:28 kinea :-)
10:13 tf Good morning everyone.
10:19 _pedda_ moin
10:21 tf anyone has directmail with categories working?
10:24 jbaptiste_j greetings, I am a typo3 noob currently doing the tutorial "modern template building" and I have a question which should be fairly easy to answer
10:28 smeringe jbaptiste_j: welcome. spell your question and then we'll settle if it's fairly easy or not ;-)
10:28 _pedda_ and if it's not we just won't answer ;)
10:29 jbaptiste_j basically I am at the "hello world" level with the "work on subpart directive, the hello world is parsed into the HTML but within <!-- -->
10:30 _pedda_ you get HELLO WORLD! rendered within <!-- --> ?
10:30 jbaptiste_j yes I can see it in the source code but not in the web page
10:30 maholtz|WORK can you show us your typoscript code? (please use pastebin and give us the url)
10:30 jbaptiste_j unless I look at the source
10:31 jbaptiste_j willco
10:31 _pedda_ paste your ts here http://www.phlogi.net/t3/tspastebin/
10:33 jbaptiste_j http://pastebin.com/d76e41632
10:34 jbaptiste_j http://paste.phlogi.net/hello_worl/ (your link)
10:35 jbaptiste_j you might need the html template too
10:37 _pedda_ yes
10:37 _pedda_ the part where you content is renderes
10:37 _pedda_ d
10:38 maholtz|WORK @jbaptiste_j: be carefully with quick typing - a common error with typoscript are typos / misspelling
10:38 jbaptiste_j the html is here http://paste.phlogi.net/hello_worl-1/
10:38 maholtz|WORK check your marker MON_CONTENU
10:39 _pedda_ <?--###MON_CONTENU###--?>
10:39 _pedda_ Il y a un problème sur le site, contactez le webmestre - ERROR: Line 91: Object Name String, "Il" was not preceded by any operator, =<>({
10:39 _pedda_ ###MON_CONTENU###
10:39 _pedda_ there is your error :)
10:39 _pedda_ just leave the <?--###MON_CONTENU###--?> out
10:40 _pedda_ remove it from your html
10:41 jbaptiste_j It doesn't need to appear twice at the beginning and at the end ?
10:41 _pedda_ depends on what you use to fill the markers..
10:41 maholtz|WORK but <? is wrong anyway
10:41 jbaptiste_j I've done it without the html comments <?-- --> but it seems to work WITH them in the tutorial, so I wanted to understand why
10:41 maholtz|WORK <!-- -->
10:42 _pedda_ in the tutorial there is an extension.. automaketemplate
10:42 jbaptiste_j OH YES <!-- and not <?-- gotcha
10:42 _pedda_ this extension is checking for <!-- ###MY_MARKER### --> some content <!-- ###MY_MARKER### -->
10:42 _pedda_ and rplacing this areas
10:43 jbaptiste_j okie, I'll get the extension then thank you you are saving me a lot of time
10:43 _pedda_ but for hello world and without the use of automaketemplate it is not necessary to use the marker twice
10:45 jbaptiste_j basically WHEN does it become necessary to use the marker twice ?
10:45 _pedda_ if the marker is used twice.. it is called subpartmarker
10:45 _pedda_ in your tutorial.. you have to look for automake template
10:47 _pedda_ this is the part where an extension creates subpart markers from div id's and the subpartes become replaced by rlmp_tmplselector (which is also an extension, is used in combination with automaketemplate..)
10:47 _pedda_ just go on reading
10:48 _pedda_ if it is the modern template building part 1 .. it will tell you that on some page
10:51 jbaptiste_j thank you
10:52 _pedda_ np you're welcome
10:59 smeringe hehe. great. I say: let us know your question, and then I go away. when I get back. there's a 100 line thread :)
11:00 _pedda_ hehe
11:00 _pedda_ i solved it for you..
11:00 smeringe cool _pedda_
11:00 _pedda_ or should i say .. probably solved..
11:01 jbaptiste_j not only solved but also explained which is better
11:01 _pedda_ hmm not really
11:01 _pedda_ there is a 3rd tutorial
11:01 _pedda_ futuristic template building
11:02 _pedda_ introducing into templavoila.. which is another method to use templates in typo3
11:02 jbaptiste_j but that one needs templa voila doesn't it ?
11:02 jbaptiste_j I don't want to use voila
11:03 jbaptiste_j I heard it is not compatible with some fonctionnalities that I will use later (metadata)
11:03 _pedda_ and there is still yaml.. which supports all 3 methods (ts-template, templavoila-templates and normal html file + css + some ts config with markers)
11:03 jbaptiste_j yaml sounds good
11:03 _pedda_ there are several yaml packages..
11:04 _pedda_ for each of the methods
11:05 jbaptiste_j I am more inclined towards the 3rd method : html + css + typo tags
11:05 fred^^ Hmm, have any of you set up rss with tt_news on typo3 4.1 ?
11:05 _pedda_ fred^^: "yes"
11:05 jbaptiste_j are you saying that if I use yaml then I sould NOT use rlmp_tmplselector ?
11:05 fred^^ Im getting a empty first line in the rss file
11:05 _pedda_ i have one project using it
11:05 fred^^ Same setup works perfectly in t3 4.2
11:06 fred^^ Seems several people have had the same problem, without anyone finding a fix
11:06 _pedda_ jbaptiste_j: yaml comes as an extension with the method you would like have to
11:06 _pedda_ just check out if this would fit your needs
11:09 kinea can someone explain what "SETFIXED" is about?
11:09 kinea this userreg issue gets really complicated :-(
11:19 tf anyone has directmail with categories working?
11:20 kinea i have directmail with different folders working, which works very well to split themes
11:21 _backlight Is there a way to find out the absolute or relative path to the TYPO3 main dir (typo3/)?
11:21 kinea _backlight: in php?
11:22 _backlight Yeah
11:22 kinea i think there is a GLOBAL BACKPATH or similar
11:23 kinea ah it is back_path
11:24 kinea which you get from conf.php in a module (made by the extension kickstarter)
11:24 kinea are you inside a module?
11:27 _backlight Yeah, yeah, got it hehe. Thanks :)
11:28 PanTerra Hi does anyone has an idea of an out of the office planner ?
11:30 m4rtijn a what?
11:31 tf kinea: because i have 2 recipients, one withe category 1 checked and the other one with category 2 checked. i try to play a little bit with the exclude options for the contentelements.but i cant see a real scheme for the contentelements. it seems the elements were send randomly ;)
11:31 PanTerra A list of persons who are in and out of the office (a sort of holliday planner)
11:32 m4rtijn how about a calender which u can pin to the wall
11:32 m4rtijn very high tech
11:32 PanTerra I love the idea but my boss doesn`t
11:33 m4rtijn did u tell him about the advantages?
11:33 m4rtijn for example.. it will still work if the electricity fails
11:33 m4rtijn :)
11:34 PanTerra it has to be on our intranet
11:34 PanTerra maybe something in Ical ?
11:35 m4rtijn did u check sourceforge for some open source php calender ?
11:35 PanTerra phpicalendar
11:35 PanTerra but not shure
11:36 m4rtijn I only know clockingIT - but its overkill for just as calender use
11:37 PanTerra What can it do more than calendar?
11:38 m4rtijn workflow in general
11:39 m4rtijn customer DB - create projects - create assignments for projects
11:39 m4rtijn milestones.. and times all employees
11:40 PanTerra wow
11:40 m4rtijn press play if u start an assignment.. press pause if u smoke..
11:40 PanTerra a sort op project mannagement
11:40 m4rtijn press stop if ur done..
11:40 PanTerra is this a typo module ?
11:40 m4rtijn then at the end u can c how many ppl worked how long on assignments and projects
11:40 m4rtijn no
11:40 m4rtijn its a bit of a pain in the ass to install
11:40 m4rtijn .. u need ruby on rails..
11:40 m4rtijn and.. some more stuff
11:41 m4rtijn but its good
11:41 m4rtijn brb smoke
11:41 PanTerra lunch
11:41 PanTerra see ya in half an hour
11:41 PanTerra thanks
12:09 randomresult hi there
12:09 _pedda_ hi
12:09 randomresult i have a problem with a menu
12:10 randomresult i have a special list menu
12:10 _pedda_ cool
12:10 _pedda_ ;)
12:10 _pedda_ ok
12:10 randomresult and i want to have each point in a special div
12:10 randomresult including the subpages
12:10 randomresult i use the following wrap
12:11 randomresult lib.universenavi.1.wrap = <div id="universenavi1">|<div>||<div id="universenavi2">|<div>||<div id="universenavi3">|<div>||<div id="universenavi4">|<div>
12:11 randomresult but all the points are put in the first container
12:11 _pedda_ NO.wrapItemAndSub = <li class="no first"> | </li> |*|<li class="no">|</li> |*| <li class="no last">|</li>
12:11 _pedda_ wrapitemandsub should do the job
12:11 randomresult i simply forgot the NO
12:12 _pedda_ not really
12:12 randomresult ...
12:12 _pedda_ http://paste.phlogi.net/-bf0dd624b
12:12 _pedda_ i do my menu's this way
12:13 _pedda_ as you can see the l2 list becomes wrapped within the li tag
12:13 randomresult thx.
12:13 randomresult i will have a look
12:13 _pedda_ you shouldn't use divs for navigation :)
12:13 maholtz|WORK @_pedda_ why?
12:14 randomresult i know
12:14 _pedda_ can olso be done with ul for accessability reasons
12:14 maholtz|WORK i dont know
12:14 maholtz|WORK thats why we use ul
12:14 randomresult all ppl use li
12:17 raj hi
12:24 randomresult hmmm the list menu should include subpages right?
12:24 _pedda_ yes
12:24 randomresult if i define a 2
12:25 _pedda_ 2 < .1
12:25 randomresult i copied the whole code
12:25 randomresult should work too
12:25 randomresult just for testing
12:26 _pedda_ hmm sorry.. list mode does only accept the ids provided by the special.value
12:26 _pedda_ it special.value is empty it takes the pid of your root site
12:26 _pedda_ try special = directory
12:26 randomresult but... ok... ill take directory
12:27 _pedda_ special.value should be the parent uid u need ..
12:27 randomresult jupp i did..
12:27 randomresult but ... have some other probs now
12:27 randomresult but i will check this
12:27 _pedda_ but using directory .. act and cur doesn't work
12:27 randomresult thx
12:28 randomresult but wrap items and sub ...
12:28 randomresult wait
12:29 randomresult every page now has the subitem class
12:29 _pedda_ pn
12:48 gehdan I'm trying to create a site for my sports club and have a little trubble figuring out how to implement addresses. I'm trying tt_address right now, but I don't know how to solve this little problem:
12:50 gehdan A person can have multiple functions in the organization, it can be a trainer and manager and or be trainer and teller or trainier for this and that. Since I'd like to display addresses based on functons in the organization rather that single addresses I'm a little stuck.. Any ideas? Are there better extensions for that?
13:05 _pedda_ gehdan: bzd_staffdirectory
13:05 _pedda_ try this one
13:05 tPl0ch hi, how do I select the site titles of all subpages?
13:07 gehdan _pedda: heard about that, I'll try it, thanks
13:08 _pedda_ np
13:10 JohPie so bin wieder weg
13:10 JohPie sorry... wrong channel :(
13:19 maholtz|WORK @gehdan: cant you work with groups
13:19 maholtz|WORK @tPl0ch: with an hmenu
13:19 lilalinux I need to create a contact page with a list of images. the images shall be clickable and open a popup window with details of the contact.
13:19 lilalinux How should I set this up? as a menu?
13:20 lilalinux can I let a menu open popup windows?
13:21 gehdan maholtz|WORK, I'm trying to do that, but for some reason I thought that this would give me a headache at sone point. Right know I don't remember why I thought so :) well, I just have to think it over again
13:26 gehdan maholtz|WORK, got it,. problem is: there's only one "main group" and then there's th grouplist, I want to show a group based on the point in the site, eg. I'd like to show teller on the main contact site but trainer on one of the sports department pages
13:33 lilalinux Is it possible to configure a page in such a way, that it always opens as a popup?
13:36 maholtz|WORK @gehdan: i thought you could config the plugin so, that only a specific group will be rendered...?
13:39 jbaptiste_j I found a typo (spelling mistake) in a tutorial, who should I report it to ?
13:40 m4rtijn jbaptiste_j - where?
13:40 gehdan maholtz|WORK, thats right, you can tell the plugin to only show people belonging to group xxx. So person A who is in group yyy won't be selected.. Person B who's in group xxx and yyy will be selected, but one of the groups is the first one. If it's yyy then you just got bad luck.
13:40 gehdan that is, if I understood that correctly, but my tests back me up a little bit there. Ideas would be apreciated though..
13:41 lilalinux got it: http://www.typo3-media.com/blog/article/popup-in-menues.html
13:41 tf lilalinux: search in the repository for "popup_manager".
13:41 jbaptiste_j I pasted you in pm m4rtijn
13:42 tPl0ch maholtz|WORK: Is it possible to not use HMENU and still get the sitetitles in an COA?
13:42 lilalinux tf: thx
13:42 tPl0ch (and uids to create typolinks)
13:43 maholtz|WORK @tPl0ch: only with hardcoded links
13:43 lilalinux tf: gr8
13:43 maholtz|WORK you can use CONTENT instead, but its more difficult afaik
13:44 tPl0ch maholtz|WORK: is it possible with select where pid = page:uid?
13:45 maholtz|WORK check tsref for that
13:47 lilalinux tf: it works fine in the menu, but not in an htmlarea link
13:51 tf lilalinux: try "kj_extendedlinks".
13:56 lilalinux tf: it was either a caching problem, or simply that the link existed before. now popup_manager works perfectly, thx agn
13:57 tf lilalinux: no problem
13:59 swemark Hello, anyone know if the current version of typo3 has problems with the FORM element?
14:05 tPl0ch If select returns more than one result, how do I loop through them in TS, is this possible?
14:06 lilalinux Can I add a deeplink to the sidebar directly to the (main) template record.
14:06 lilalinux And one for the pageTS of my main page
14:07 lilalinux it's a PITA having to navigate there over and over again, because of the frameset
14:07 lilalinux you can't use bookmarks
14:08 Janoon Hi everyone
14:08 Janoon I need help about image preloader
14:08 Janoon in TS
14:09 Janoon anyone know about the solution
14:09 Janoon ?
14:13 Janoon anyone can help me?
14:15 tf lilalinux: open 2 browser tabs ;-)
14:18 lilalinux tf: of course i could do that, but directlinks would be so much nicer ;-)
14:22 Janoon i want to preload menu images is it possible
14:22 Janoon ?
14:23 maholtz|WORK sure
14:23 maholtz|WORK output your menu twice
14:25 Janoon how?
14:26 maholtz|WORK how do you output it the first time?
14:26 jananne hello, can i somehow modify the standard typo3 mailform 'e-mail output'?
14:26 Janoon i just populate the div by script
14:27 jananne hi maholtz|WORK, wow, you're always online at #typo3 :).
14:27 maholtz|WORK hth
14:28 Janoon I am thinking i just on a flag then it will work for me
14:30 tPl0ch http://paste.phlogi.net/-7ea8b88fb4/ <- can somebody help me with this? :)
14:31 tPl0ch how do I typolink the renderObj to the page
14:31 maholtz|WORK 10.typolink.parameter.field = uid
14:32 tPl0ch maholtz|WORK: thanks :) i made it work without hmenu :)
14:32 lilalinux How do I configure a menu, that I inserted as a content element? By now I only did that with TSOPs.
14:33 maholtz|WORK @tPl0ch: yeah, but hmenu would be easy too;)
14:38 lilalinux maholtz|WORK: do you know, how I can reference a content element (menu/sitemap) so that I can configure it in Setup?
14:39 lilalinux never did that before. until now I always had a menu on each page, and configured a typo script object path in TemplaVoila
14:42 lilalinux If I configure tt_content.menu.20.1, it will affect all menus of that type
14:43 maholtz|WORK you can use a condition for that or an if statement and a case which renders menu depending on f.e. frame-selection
14:44 lilalinux thx
14:57 jananne hi dinsdale07 :)
14:58 lilalinux Is expAll a property of HMENU or TMENU/GMENU or the individual levels?
14:59 _pedda_ if you set 1.expAll = 1 all submenus will be expanded then
15:00 _pedda_ if you want to close them on 2nd and 3rd level you have to specify 2.expAll = 0
15:00 _pedda_ and 3.expAll = 0
15:00 _pedda_ and so on..
15:00 lilalinux thx
15:07 lilalinux Now I have a 2 level navigation, but I want to hide the 1st level. however, ALL the 2nd level items shall still be visible. e.g. this is the structure: (foo1 (bar11, bar12), foo2 (bar21, bar22)) but the display should only be bar11, bar12, bar21, bar22
15:09 nkuttler lilalinux: doesn't entrylevel do that?
15:09 nkuttler ah, no
15:09 lilalinux nkuttler: that would only display the first 2nd level subtree
15:10 nkuttler hm, no idea, tsref i guess :)
15:10 nkuttler does it have to be flexible or can you hardcode the root pages?
15:11 nkuttler or you could add a css class to the first level that hides them..
15:11 lilalinux hm, both could work
15:11 lilalinux I'll check entryLevel, maybe it really does what I need
15:13 _pedda_ entrylevel does that
15:13 lilalinux tried that, doesn't work
15:14 _pedda_ what is the correct way to configure cron jobs for extensions in typo3
15:14 _pedda_ lilalinux: but it should...
15:14 _pedda_ probably you tried the wrong value
15:17 lilalinux maybe it doesn't work with "startingpage" or if there are multiple subtrees
15:17 _pedda_ ?
15:18 _pedda_ do you have multiple pagetree in your project ?
15:39 tPl0ch select.where = pid = {page:uid} <- is this correct?
15:41 maholtz|WORK select.where.insertData = 1 - only if where has stdWrap (afaik not, so you have to use andWhere for that
15:45 pmk65 where has stdwrap in newer TYPO3 versions. (The info just never reaced the manual)
15:47 Nekdo does anyone know if there is an option to tell typo to apply general styles (text with image etc.) as inline styles?
15:49 pmk65 Nekdo: No. you'll have to make your own "css_inlinestyled_content"
15:50 Nekdo k, thx
15:50 pmk65 A while ago I was working on a script that would read a .CSS file, and process it's content, and then apply it as inline styles. But I never got around to finishing it..
15:50 pmk65 Is it for newsletters?
15:50 Nekdo tell me if you do
15:50 Nekdo yes
15:50 Nekdo newsletters are pain in the ass
15:51 pmk65 I KNOW!!
15:52 pmk65 What I do, is modify the css_styled_content for the CE types I use in my newsletters. (Text & Text w. Image)
15:52 Nekdo mhm
15:53 maholtz|WORK @pmk65 thx
15:53 maholtz|WORK didnt noticed that with where and stdWrap
15:53 tPl0ch but still doesn't work
15:54 maholtz|WORK insertData = 1
15:54 pmk65 maholtz|WORK: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Pending_Documentation <-- Stuff that is supposed to end up in the manual (But it doesn't look like it has very high priority, as some of the entries is from 2007!!)
15:54 tPl0ch maholtz|WORK: yes, it still doesn't give me the sitetitles
15:56 tPl0ch http://paste.phlogi.net/-46a093cc11/
15:56 tPl0ch this is how I am trying to do it
15:57 maholtz|WORK @pmk65: good to know
16:00 maholtz|WORK @tPl0ch: {field:uid}
16:01 pmk65 tPl0ch: http://paste.phlogi.net/-ee6990bb1c/
16:02 tPl0ch pmk65: Why do I have to use andWhere here?
16:02 pmk65 wrong code. 2 sec..
16:03 pmk65 http://www.phlogi.net/t3/tspastebin/
16:03 pmk65 the where part should just be "where.dataWrap = pid={page:uid}"
16:04 tPl0ch pmk65: Do I still need insertData = 1 ?
16:05 tPl0ch pmk65: It's working, thanks, just what I needed to get going
16:05 pmk65 no, dataWrap is enough
16:10 pmk65 tPl0ch: Also check http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Pending_Documentation, as there might be some new menu properties that can do what you are looking for.
16:10 pmk65 there's quite a lot of interesting things that never made it to the manuals..
16:11 tPl0ch pmk65: which i find quite disturbing to put them into documentation
16:11 tPl0ch + not
16:12 pmk65 I totally agree. You can't have "pending documentation" which is from 2007! :(
16:14 lilalinux how do I mark a page in a menu as non-clickable? it shall only be treated as a "folder" without content in a scenario where expAll=1
16:14 maholtz|WORK use spacer
16:14 maholtz|WORK ?
16:14 pmk65 But it's the same with bugs posted on bugtracker. A lot of the bugs there is simply ignored. (I have posted a bug 2.5 years ago, which is still not fixed) And adding patches doesn't seem to help much. (Last time I uploaded patches there, I got a mail from the bugteam (2 years after posting the bug/patch) telling me that the bugreport/patch was to old, and I had to write a new bugreport/patch.. :p
16:14 maholtz|WORK perhaps, i am not sure
16:16 maholtz|WORK @pmk65: you are right, imho the problem is, that many core members wants to do something "new" and "hip" and do not want to spend their spare time on bugs they never had personally
16:18 pmk65 maholtz|WORK: Unfortunatly they doesn't test the "new" and "hip" stuff they include, so TYPO3 just get's more and more buggy. :(
16:18 pmk65 I wish they would spend some of the money from TYPO3 Associates on bugfixing.
16:19 tPl0ch pmk65: I had a lot of problems with TemplaVoila and FCE containing sections, where RTE didn't show up and everything related to AJAX javascript tasks goes crazy
16:19 maholtz|WORK at the moment they spend all the money on flow3
16:20 tPl0ch maholtz|WORK: I am waiting for the first release of FLOW3, since I am developing php with cakePHP and I am not really satisfied
16:20 pmk65 tPl0ch: There's a lot of unresolved bugs regarding IRRE TV sections/RTE. I bet it's one of those causing your problems.
16:21 lilalinux How do I set expAll only for one subtree of a navigation?
16:22 pmk65 I hope they handle extensions in FLOW3 better than it's done in TYPO3. I really hate downloading an extension, only to discover that it doesn't work with the TYPO3 version Im using.
16:23 pmk65 lilalinux: Set it for the TMENU/GMENU part of the menu you want expanded.
16:24 lilalinux pmk65: but how do I limit it to only one of the subtrees?
16:24 pmk65 lilalinux: I think you'll need to write some iproc function to handle that, in combination with the expAll = 1
16:28 maholtz|WORK @pmk65: the thing with extensions depends on extension authors - there is no need to have trouble for the most issues
16:28 pmk65 In menus you can use 2 different userfunctions: IProcFunc & itemArrayProcFunc
16:30 pmk65 maholtz|WORK: I just whish there was some kind of way to see which TYPO3 versions that worked with extension X. That way I wouldn't have to spend time checking the PHP code and see if it's still compatible.
16:31 pmk65 There's 3500+ extensions on TER, but the 1500 of them is outdated, 500 is missing manuals, 1000 is pure crap. That leaves 500+ usable extensions.
16:32 maholtz|WORK 1000 is pure crap? you are optimistic...
16:32 pmk65 I was just trying to be nice :D
16:33 maholtz|WORK hehe :)
16:40 tPl0ch Is there actually some kind of quality assurance system in TER
16:40 tPl0ch ?
16:41 tPl0ch do they get reviewed, like in linux distributions
16:44 flops hi
16:46 dinsdale07 tPl0ch, http://typo3.org/extensions/what-are-reviews/
17:02 TaucherMK i have a problem with indexed_search, in the Browse results is a list of pages ("page 1, page 2, page 2, next >"), but they aim for #, so it doesn't bring the user to the second page...
17:05 randomresult hmmm i have a strange behaviour with real url
17:05 maholtz|WORK @tPl0ch: there is no review thing on life
17:05 randomresult on one page realurl adds the folder like bla.com/magazin/
17:05 randomresult on the other (same level) realurl doesnt
17:06 randomresult bla.com/shop/product/ (should be) --> bloa.com/product/ (is / without shop)
17:06 randomresult same level same thing...
17:06 tPl0ch maholtz|WORK: There might be someone reviewing your life in the afterlife (probably god)
17:07 tPl0ch (or devil, depends i guess)
17:11 maholtz|WORK :p
17:11 maholtz|WORK but you understood what i wanted to say, woll?
17:11 tPl0ch i certainly did
17:12 tPl0ch :)
17:12 maholtz|WORK perfect... where is m4rtijn? still smoking?
17:16 HardPhuck guys, which editor can give the best speed at typo3 ext programming
17:17 maholtz|WORK vi or emacs?
17:17 dinsdale07 do you mean processing power efficience or the best features?
17:19 HardPhuck well i'm using textmate atm and i find it pretty okay, but i read somewhere there are tools for faster development
17:19 HardPhuck trying Komodo as we speak
17:20 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: i use eclipse
17:21 maholtz|WORK but i think you need an good php editor
17:21 maholtz|WORK it is not typo3 specific
17:21 dinsdale07 I started with emacs - too much to learn, then I tried komodo but it seems it costs money, 300 bucks or so. Now I use now eclipse ganymede and the debugging feature is awsome. Never looked back since.
17:21 maholtz|WORK imho
17:21 HardPhuck why would i want the debugging feature?
17:22 HardPhuck t3lib_div::debug() always gives me everything i want
17:22 HardPhuck unless i'm living in the dark here :D
17:22 dinsdale07 If I don't know how an extension works I can just set a breakpoint, look into the variables and step through the code. no need for debug() anymore.
17:23 dinsdale07 I set it up with this vid: http://www.valdez.hr/fileadmin/video_en/eclipse_php_xdebug.ogv you can find an overview in the wiki: http://wiki.typo3.org/Overview_Developer_Manuals
17:24 HardPhuck so you load the whole typo3 installation into the eclipse as a project?
17:24 dinsdale07 correct, you will have to copy the typo3 folder into your project though, symlinks don't work.
17:25 HardPhuck so the project can get quite huge right?
17:26 HardPhuck i mean if you develop like 10 extensions in one devel env
17:27 dinsdale07 I haven't noticed any side effects and I'm working on a project with seminars, cal, cwt_community, mm_forum.
17:29 dinsdale07 the project folder is 180MB.
17:30 HardPhuck nice :)
17:30 HardPhuck anyways i'm off, thank you for the advice
17:30 TaucherMK dinsdale07: Your Video link crashs my Browser...
17:31 dinsdale07 which Browser@ TaucherMK,
17:31 TaucherMK Safari
17:31 dinsdale07 I wouldn't know about that - I'm on linux :-). But why don't you download it as a file and play it with vlc?
17:32 TaucherMK because Safari collapsed each time I tried to download it... Now i download it with Firefox...
17:57 lilalinux How can I stop that "*_01" madness in filenames? A filename is uniquely named by it's path and filename
17:58 lilalinux I choose a picture in BE, there it'll be renamed to foo_01.jpg, and in FE it can't find it
18:00 lilalinux If a duplicate is uploaded, it should be overwritten
18:04 dinsdale07 lilalinux, same problem with selecting files which are already in fileadmin. They get uploaded in uploads too which often leads to surprises... I wish I would know how to turn that off..
18:05 lilalinux Revolution!
18:05 lilalinux :-)
18:06 lilalinux Actually it's also too stupid to recognize, that "duplicates" actually aren't duplicate, if they reside in differen folders O_o
18:08 dinsdale07 usually each subsequent upload change should be named 02,03 etc. I think the idea is to allow reversing to a previous state.
18:09 dinsdale07 someone suggested me once not to define an upload folder, I don't know how to do that though.
18:45 sub_ hello everyone..I have a question: are realurl and indexed_search supposed to work together? Realurl works fine in my setup except in indexed_search results, where the links are still with id's...help, anyone? thanks!
18:53 ries sub_: no help from me but it does work
18:54 sub_ is this your own experience? ;)
18:56 ries yes
18:56 ries brb
19:56 dinsdale07 I always get it wrong again, how do I assign a multiple line value in TS with brackets?
20:01 Tsoots replace = with (
20:01 Tsoots and close it with )
20:02 dinsdale07 That's it. Thank you Tsoots.
20:05 sub_ can someone give me a hint why the links in my "indexed_search" results are not realurl'd, whereas the rest of the page is? thanks
20:42 sub_ can someone give me a hint why the links in my "indexed_search" results are not realurl'd, whereas the rest of the page is? thanks
20:50 TaucherMK_ how can i say typo3 that it shouldn't cache sites on https?
20:53 sub_ can someone give me a hint why the links in my "indexed_search" results are not realurl'd, whereas the rest of the page is? thanks
21:17 moodaepo aaah craps
21:17 moodaepo I had left the install tool open and someone just logged into it
21:18 moodaepo from krasnet.ru [92.124.101.184]
21:18 moodaepo I turned access off right away but what security issues can I expect?
21:24 dinsdale07 on the top of my head - how long has he been logged on, check your webserver logfiles what he did and double check your localconf.php
21:24 TaucherMK_ change your connection Data to the database
21:24 moodaepo it was 2 minutes before I lockec it down...localconf looks legit
21:25 moodaepo db can connect on local machine only (db/web are on same server
21:25 TaucherMK_ check if he addes a new admin user
21:26 moodaepo nope no new admin account
21:28 lilalinux How can I stop renaming files to *_01? If there's a duplicate it shall be overwritten
21:28 TaucherMK_ does anyone knows how to prevent typo3 from caching of sites which are served over https?
21:32 nkuttler moodaepo: default password on an existing install?
21:33 moodaepo nkuttler: must have been a dictionary attack
21:33 moodaepo it was a simple word or a guess
21:34 nkuttler hm, no backups to reinstall from? although two minutes isn't much time. and yes, check server logs
21:34 nkuttler access time on files etc
21:35 moodaepo yup they look ok, I'm surprised the bastard guessed it...couldn't have done scripts to hack typo3 install tool
21:36 nkuttler anyway, http://typo3.org/teams/security/security-bulletins/typo3-sa-2009-001/
21:37 moodaepo damn me
21:37 moodaepo nkuttler: thanks
21:38 lilalinux Even if the folders are different files with the same name are renamed to _01, that plainly suxx
21:40 lilalinux even worse, the FE doesn't find the image, it's only the database name that changed
21:42 moodaepo lilalinux: is this a new thing that's happening?
21:45 moodaepo nkuttler: upgraded hopefully I've cut him off
21:46 lilalinux Here's a fix: http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:LAh-dlByfZsJ:typo3.toaster-schwerin.de/typo3_english/2006_01/msg00817.html+dontCheckForUnique+_01&hl=de&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=de
21:46 lilalinux at least I call it a fix :-)
21:46 moodaepo : )
21:46 lilalinux dinsdale07: http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:LAh-dlByfZsJ:typo3.toaster-schwerin.de/typo3_english/2006_01/msg00817.html+dontCheckForUnique+_01&hl=de&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=de
21:46 lilalinux bow before me :-)
21:47 moodaepo anyone tried to run typo3 on 2008/iis7?
21:47 lilalinux Salvation is near :-)
21:50 nkuttler os x is already painful, can't even imagine the pain of running typo3 on windows..
21:51 moodaepo yea I'm trying there's an entry in the wiki I've been battling with
21:53 lilalinux nkuttler: what's the problem with os x?
21:53 moodaepo osx? you brought that up...my boss wants to move the website to sharepoint
21:54 moodaepo I want to keep typo3 for the public facing website and one way to appease him is to move it to windows
21:54 nkuttler lilalinux: i don't like source distros on servers. and don't tell me you use apple's stuff to host sites
21:54 moodaepo it's on SUSE right now
21:54 moodaepo lilalinux: nkuttler was commenting about running typo3 on osx being a pain
21:55 lilalinux i see
21:55 nkuttler :)
21:55 lilalinux no, i don't use the shipped crap :-)
21:55 moodaepo I have to get it to run on 2008/IIS7 hopefully
21:55 nkuttler moodaepo: what's his problem with the suse server?
21:56 nkuttler imagemagick, pdf2txt and friends, is there something like cron? how do you install php on windows? are there up to date versions?
21:56 moodaepo nothing boss wants to complete the move towards the darkside make us all MS
21:56 nkuttler otoh, i don't really want to know :)
21:56 nkuttler moodaepo: :(
21:57 nd_ How do I write to typo3temp or some folder using api?
21:57 moodaepo yes yes yes it's all there it's just getting php5 to work properly on iis7
21:59 moodaepo nd_: can't you look at an extension that does for examples?
22:00 moodaepo things I hate today: sharepoint, iis7+php, russians
22:05 lilalinux Can I make $dontCheckForUnique from "class t3lib_extFileFunctions extends t3lib_basicFileFunctions" configurable via typoscript, or do I have to hack the code?
22:05 lilalinux t3lib/class.t3lib_extfilefunc.php
22:07 dinsdale07 lilalinux, good find :-) if I understand the second part will not copy the file from fileadmin at all if it exists.
22:09 lilalinux I don't understand the second part, too
22:09 lilalinux it has something to do with multi language sites
22:09 dinsdale07 I would be surprised if you can influence this via TS, I think these are core hacks.
22:15 lilalinux We should start a petition to make this annoyance configurable
22:15 lilalinux :-)
22:15 dinsdale07 I'm with you
22:15 moodaepo I've just learned to live with it, I think I'm ready to get married : )
22:16 dinsdale07 I'm sure we could sponsor it, I throw 25 Euro in the pot
22:16 dinsdale07 whipround
22:22 lilalinux moodaepo: lol
22:22 lilalinux been there, done that
22:38 sub_ can someone give me a hint why the links in my "indexed_search" results are not realurl'd, whereas the rest of the page is? thank
22:38 just2b hehe mac os as vmware on xp :D
22:38 tvfilm I would like to make an online TV website like here with ostube http://pro.ostube.de/video/863/basketball of course prefered with typo3: any idea how to do and if any helpful links or xtensions , thankx
22:39 lilalinux sub_: maybe you need to tweak parsefunc to recursively parse it?
22:40 sub_ recursively parse what?
22:40 lilalinux sub_: do you mean <link ...> tags not being replaced by <a ...>?
22:40 sub_ no I mean that a link looks like "domain.com/id=25&xy=4 instead of "domain.com/about-us/
22:41 lilalinux i see
22:41 sub_ this concerns only the links in the search result pages of "indexed_search"
22:42 sub_ as far as I could see from the sources, "indexed_search" just does creates this link independently of realurl...but there are people saying that it would work
22:44 moodaepo sub_:that would be a realurl setup, no?
22:44 lilalinux I'm pretty sure, that the solution contains something like: parseFunc < foo
22:44 sub_ moodaepo, right..but I wonder what else I must configure in realurl, since the rest of the page works (for the same pages)
22:44 lilalinux but actually I have not idea what i'm talking about :-)
22:47 sub_ no typo3 pro here with a little hint for me? :)
22:47 moodaepo sub_: did you do realurl yourself or did you use a configurator tool?
22:47 sub_ I set it up myself
22:48 moodaepo hmm want to try something like this > http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/cbrealurl/1.1.0/view/toc/0/
22:48 moodaepo I used cannon_bose instructions to do realurl by myself long ago
22:48 moodaepo that was before people started making the awesome extensions
22:49 moodaepo and this one is supposed to support indexedsearch > http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/cbrealurl/1.1.0/view/1/1/#id3555463
22:50 sub_ okay that looks interesting
22:50 sub_ maybe there's an error in my realurl conf
22:50 moodaepo realurl can be simple and hard...want me to post my config?
22:50 sub_ although everything except the search runs fine
22:50 moodaepo but I don't use search so it won't be much use
22:51 sub_ sure, if it is known to work with indexed_search
22:51 moodaepo nein : )
22:53 sub_ well I'll try that realurl configuration helper, maybe this solves the problem..thanks for now!
23:05 TaucherMK_ does anyone knows how to prevent typo3 from caching of sites which are served over https?
23:13 ries TaucherMK_: I would expect with a bit of TS
23:13 TaucherMK_ yeah, i searched the docs, but didn't found anything
23:13 moodaepo TaucherMK: htaccess is your friend
23:14 TaucherMK_ i wonder that nobody else has this problem, because google didn't bring anything up
23:14 TaucherMK_ moodaepo: You mean to add no_cache parameter to the url?
23:14 moodaepo my google skills must be ubermensch the second link I got helps > http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/nc_staticfilecache/2.3.0/view/1/3/
23:15 moodaepo ah fine you know that : )
23:15 moodaepo you mean https content gets cached server side?
23:16 TaucherMK_ yeah, but this is an extension i don't want to and afaik does typo3 just creates pages with no cache parameter, but it caches it anyway
23:16 TaucherMK_ moodaepo: yes
23:17 TaucherMK_ the problem is that the url for an <img begins with https when a user requests the site after without https and that gives errors...
23:42 HardPhuck dinsdale07 are you here?
23:42 dinsdale07 yes
23:43 dinsdale07 did you try eclipse?
23:43 HardPhuck i installed Zend, Komodo and Eclipse, and deciding which is better :D
23:43 dinsdale07 and what are your findings so far :-)
23:43 HardPhuck i need a bit of advice with debuging
23:44 dinsdale07 sure, if I can help, I'm not the hardcore programmer myself ...
23:44 HardPhuck if i develop a FE extension, do i only debug the class pi1 file or is there a way to debug everything that's going on
23:44 HardPhuck and what is needed most of the time
23:45 HardPhuck well atm Komodo seems best
23:45 HardPhuck :)
23:45 HardPhuck but they all are pretty similar
23:46 HardPhuck you said you don't need the t3lib_debug() because you can see everything with ecplise... where and how :)
23:46 HardPhuck i watched the movie you pasted but it just describes the setting up process
23:47 lilalinux HardPhuck: for php Zend Studio is the way to go
23:47 lilalinux (which actually is a specialized eclipse)
23:48 HardPhuck yeah i figured that out :)
23:48 lilalinux But Zend is _the_ professional tool for php developers
23:49 HardPhuck well i'm searching tutorials on how to properly develop extensions with any of these IDEs

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