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08:18 caliel Good morning everyone.
08:26 just2b morning
09:04 maholtz|WORK morning
09:08 caliel morning maholtz|WORK
09:27 _pedda_ hi all
09:28 maholtz|WORK hi _pedda_, hi caliel
09:40 maholtz|WORK if i edit an content elements i have since 4.2. tabs instead of an large form. Is it possible to disable the tabs again?
09:43 maholtz|WORK someone understands me?
09:44 just2b sure
09:45 pmk65 has anyone experienced that a TYPO3 constant is not translated to the constant value? (Constant IS set)
09:45 gehdan Hi, can some experienced users please enlighten me and tell me the difference between new page content and news (tt_news)
09:46 just2b pmk65 > there was IMO a problem with specific mysql or php version or so,..
09:46 maholtz|WORK @just2b: how is it possible?
09:47 pmk65 just2b: do you have a link to a bugreport or some text about it?
09:47 just2b turn it of via ext_tables.php
09:47 just2b pmk65 i just have seen it once in core list..
09:47 pmk65 ok. As I have this TS: -> http://paste.phlogi.net/-bc34d03c0c/
09:47 just2b 7677
09:48 just2b but patch is just for
09:48 just2b Branch: TYPO3_4-1 only
09:48 just2b ?
09:48 just2b FYI: Committed to SVN
09:48 just2b k
09:48 pmk65 where the constant $plugin.pmkslimbox.resizeEasing is not translated, but later on in the TS, I access it once more just to test, and this time it is translated..
09:48 turuburu hi guys
09:48 just2b check your typo3 v
09:49 maholtz|WORK just2b: any hint about the key?
09:49 pmk65 the HTML code then looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m3e27db2d
09:49 pmk65 The constant is supposed to translate to "easeInOutQuad"
09:50 just2b tabdevider IMO
09:51 pmk65 Im running TYPO# v4.2.3 so if what you are saying, then it should have been fixed in this version?
09:52 just2b take a look at the patch, maybe just add it
09:52 maholtz|WORK thx just2b. now i remember what i have to look for
09:57 _pedda_ is it possible to disable the profile edit function of sr_feuser_register only for a predefined account
09:57 _pedda_ ?
10:01 maholtz|WORK FYI: $TCA['pages']['ctrl']['dividers2tabs'] = 0;
10:03 m4rtijn hi all
10:03 _pedda_ hi
10:13 fred^^ http://www.demokratene.no/index.php?id=7&type=100 This works fine, but when I enable coolurl again, it gives me a page not found-error
10:13 fred^^ cooluri
10:14 tf what could be the problem for: Warning: mysql_query() [function.mysql-query]: Unable to save result set in ... typo3/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 231 ?
10:14 just2b enable sqldebug in installtool
10:14 tf ok
10:16 tf Table 'pages_language_overlay' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
10:16 tf ???
10:17 HardPhuck which object do i need to extend to typo3 check visitors by IP if they are registered FE users
10:17 pmk65 I solved my constant problem. TYPO3 checks for occurences of {$, and as I have a javascript {$ , that fucked up the translation of constants. To fix it, I simply added a space between the javascript {$, so it looked like { $. That way TYPO3 doesn't think it's part of a constant..
10:22 just2b ah nice
10:25 tf just2b: could it be a quota problem?
10:26 just2b could be
10:26 just2b but repair zthe table
10:26 just2b and ask your hoster
10:37 tf just2b: how i can repair the table? i dont want to make something wrong :-)
10:41 just2b phpmyadmin > repair table tablename;
10:44 tf just2b: thx. it seems that it works now. :-)
10:48 HardPhuck guys if i want to make my own FE user registration extension,.. where should i put the confirmation hash that gets mailed to the user as confirmation link
10:51 just2b ;)
10:53 just2b fl
11:08 lilalinux In fileadmin I can see a file, that apparently has 1 reference. How can I find out, which element references ist? or ist that only a counter?
11:09 maholtz|WORK there is an info icon
11:10 lilalinux thx
11:10 lilalinux But the result is not linked
11:11 lilalinux How can I tell the customer how he can jump to tt_content=209?
11:12 _pedda__ he should type 209 into the search on the top right of the backend
11:12 lilalinux thx
11:13 lilalinux didn't help
11:14 lilalinux it didn't find any tt_content
11:14 lilalinux only countries and thelikes
11:14 lilalinux I guess it searches fulltext and not uids
11:14 _pedda__ both
11:15 _pedda__ if i type 399 in my project actually .. i get an ce , an fe user and country settings from static info tables listed
11:15 _pedda__ and some files from media..
11:32 Recnelis Hey guys, is there any way to see which language file a extension is using? I'm using sr_feuser_register with danish text.. but can't seem to find the file it uses.. I'm getting a
11:32 Recnelis ###LABEL_PASSWORD_REPEAT###
11:32 Recnelis Where the label itself should be..
11:35 m4rtijn Recnelis - i also had problem with the translation of fe_user_reg
11:35 m4rtijn ..
11:36 m4rtijn do you have it in danish?
11:37 turuburu hi guys
11:37 turuburu how can i upgrade from 4.2.3 to 4.2.4?
11:37 Recnelis m4rtijn: Yes.. what did u do?
11:38 turuburu any idea?
11:41 m4rtijn Recnelis - i didnt even get it to be in german..
11:41 m4rtijn but it was for a private page.. so i didnt care much :)
11:41 m4rtijn its still in english
11:42 Recnelis This isn't a private page.. the language is in danish.. and it works.. suddenly the label for password repeat has just vanished :s
11:42 m4rtijn arr
11:45 Recnelis Yeah.. now it just says ###LABEL_PASSWORD_REPEAT### :/
11:45 Recnelis All other labels are fine..
11:47 Recnelis Argh.. I'm gonna go crazy..
11:51 m4rtijn make a copy of your template and try the original template again
11:53 Recnelis Hmm.. that works.. weird...
11:54 m4rtijn .. try copying those fields of the original into yours maybe..
12:00 Recnelis m4rtijn: Does typo3 make a local copy of the template file?
12:01 caliel hello. how can I remove the <?xml ?> headings when using
12:01 caliel page.config.doctype = xhtml_strict
12:01 caliel I would also like to know, please, how to set xml:lang and lang to opportune values
12:01 caliel thanks
12:06 snoy_ms caliel: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/7/3/
12:06 snoy_ms don't know but maybe you find an option
12:07 snoy_ms caliel: htmlTag_langKey
12:09 Recnelis m4rtijn: Did it and it work.. damn typo3 is weird at times..
12:11 m4rtijn hehe
12:11 caliel snoy_ms: thanks, this is my first try on typo3, it's quite working somehow :)
12:12 caliel is the root-level to include statically ?
12:12 caliel (in a menu, of coure)
12:12 caliel +s
12:24 Briareos1 i am batch importing fe_users - how can i find out which format the record field "image" has? (it's blob, but i don't know if it's the image itself or just a text that links to the actual position)
12:32 pmk65 Briareos1: It contains the name and path (relative to the typo3temp folder)
12:33 pmk65 relative to the uploads/pics/ folder, not the typo3temp.
12:33 Briareos1 pmk65 is that all in one line? (so to access fileadmin i'd have to fill the field with: "../fileadmin/theportrait1.jpg" ?)
12:33 pmk65 The image itself is placed in the uploads/pics/ folder
12:34 Briareos1 ok ../../fileadmin/theportrait1.jpg then?
12:34 pmk65 it can't point to the image in fileadmun (that's where you have your library of images) Once an image is used, a copy is placed in the uploads folder.
12:35 pmk65 fileadmun = fileadmin :)
12:37 pmk65 so you set the "image" field to the name of the image (no path) Then you copy the image to the uploads/pics folder.
12:38 caliel i want to display Level 1 menu on the top of the page and level 2 on the sidebar, but I cannot get it and find an appropriate doc. Can you please help me ?
12:39 pmk65 caliel: It's in TSRef (HMENU) - look for the property entryLevel
12:41 caliel i checked entryLevel = 1, but it doesn't display
12:43 caliel it still recopy the 1st level menu
12:44 caliel http://dpaste.com/112110/ <-- this is what I wrote
12:45 caliel but with this i cannot have 2nd level items on sidebar, nor the rootlevel in the topmenu as item
12:47 caliel got it, sorry, still a n00b
12:51 Briareos1 pmk65 thank you
12:52 pmk65 caliel: try setting it to -1 or -2 (I can't remember which)
12:54 caliel pmk65: i reached how to have the 2nd level displayed, but I'm reading there are no solution in having the "site root" in the navigation
12:57 Briareos1 another thing, pmk65: i've just manually added a pic to a fe_user and it was apparently not copied to uploads/pics - can that be?
12:57 caliel also including -1 as entryLevel
13:00 snoy_ms caliel: does it work ?
13:02 snoy_ms caliel: stupid question but - did you clean typo3 cache after changing your typoscript?
13:05 caliel yes snoy_ms I read it in the tutorial to do it :)
13:06 caliel snoy_ms: the problem is that i cannot have my site root in the navigation bar, so now I created a copy of it, but would like site root pointing to that without varying the site structure
13:06 pmk65 Briareos1: if you add the picture from BE, you should see a thumb of the image (after saving) If you hold the mouse over the image, the alt/titletext should contain the path to the image.
13:07 Briareos1 ah, great - it's in the subfolder ../uploads/tx_srfeuserregister/12345.jpg
13:08 pmk65 caliel: just create a shortcut to the root page, on the level with your other main menu items. Then your rootpage will be accessible from the menu.
13:08 caliel yes i'm doing but it could sound strange, i have no DOC module on the left sidebar of backend
13:08 caliel i was following this http://wiki.typo3.org/Typo3_tut_part2
13:10 lilalinux how can I change the default tab for editing a record?
13:11 lilalinux i.e. I almost never need to change something at the "general" tab
13:11 lilalinux Can't I directly jump to e.g. Text?
13:11 lilalinux or even the 2nd tab whatever that is
13:18 caliel typo3 is the most wonderful cms i ever tried till now... a lot to learn, but a lot of flexibility...
13:19 maholtz|WORK what else did you try?
13:22 caliel joomla, drupal...
13:22 maholtz|WORK i thought drupal is really powerfull?
13:23 caliel it's the very first time I can have a XHTML 1.0 Stict full validated output from a template without having to hack the core
13:33 Briareos1 If I set "Language:" of a record to "[All]" it won't show up in the FE - what could be the reason for that?
13:34 m4rtijn probably u didnt define it in your ts.. although im not sure if u need to :p
13:34 m4rtijn did u google it?
13:35 maholtz|WORK @caliel: its not possible to get XHTML 1.0 strict Output with drupal?
13:38 caliel maholtz|WORK: yes it is, but some modules are w/tables, so it's necessary to hack the core to have a tableless design
13:39 caliel it depends on needings, though
13:39 caliel i'm finding typo3 fully customizable (and still a lot hard to understand at first sight)
13:57 Briareos1 hey m4rtijn, yeah i did, but apparently i am using the wrong keywords :)
14:01 maholtz|WORK @caliel: yep, its hard and you have to learn much
14:05 maholtz|WORK but its worth:)
14:05 Guest35064 Is there a workaround for FF3 and old typo backend problem?
14:07 maholtz|WORK perhaps you find something on bugs.typo3.org
14:13 Briareos1 nah, can't find anything regarding the use of [All] for the language ... i wonder why this should not be configured by default (?)
14:14 Briareos1 Guest35064, you should be able to install FF2 & FF3 parallel; also i believe that I once saw an extension in typo3 for that
14:14 tobi_t3w Guest35064 you should upgrade your typo3 instalation because of the security fixes
14:15 Briareos1 mn_ff3_be_bugfix, maybe Guest35064
14:17 pmk65 Guest35064: Are you on Mac or PC?
14:18 pmk65 for PC, there's a FF extension, that can switch the rendering engine of FF, between IE and FF.
14:19 Briareos1 I found a post stating that sys_language_uid=-1 = [all languages] but still how do i need to configure my page so that Elements with language set to "all" are displayed correctly (?)
14:19 pmk65 There's also a patch on TER, but it's written for a specific TYPO3 version. So if you are running a different version, you'll have to patch the files manually.
14:21 pmk65 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419 <- IE Tab extension for FF
14:23 Guest35064 oh. thanks
14:23 Guest35064 I am on penguin :)
14:24 Guest35064 Problem is that i maintain several typo site beginning from 3.6 to 4.2
14:25 Guest35064 i cant run FF2 & FF3 at the same time. i have to quit FF3 if i want to copy code || work on a 3.8 and below site
14:25 Guest35064 thatsw really hard
14:25 endurans you can run both at same time
14:25 pmk65 Briareos1: Maybe this is useful? -> http://www.training-typo3.com/2008/12/15/typo3-multi-language/
14:26 Briareos1 i know, Guest35064, since i am on penguin as well :) you can't run both FF instances at the same time. i simply used konqueror for those sites that were below that version
14:26 pmk65 Or if you are using TV -> http://typo3bloke.net/post-details/creating_multilanguage_sites_with_templavoila/
14:26 endurans You can run both FF at same times, just lunch ff2 as different user
14:26 Briareos1 pmk65 i will have a look shortly
14:27 Briareos1 great idea, endurans
14:27 Guest35064 endurans: nice hint
14:27 Guest35064 should solve my problem
14:27 endurans you even can use different profiles for them
14:27 pmk65 konqueror: is not 100% compatible with the BE, as it has limited JS/DHTML support. Specially the RTE won't work with konqueror AFIK.
14:28 endurans a risky but quick example (don't do this at home): sudo firefox-2 -profilemanager
14:30 endurans additionally install VirtualBox, inside it run a Windex and on it you can have IEs and FF's of many versions
14:32 maholtz|WORK ff3 is not be compatible under linux, because it crashes allways
14:32 endurans what?
14:35 maholtz|WORK does not depend on TYPO3
14:35 endurans sure, but are you saying something like FF3 is not compatible with Linux?
14:37 maholtz|WORK i cant work with FF3 atm on linux (kubuntu) - i am sure it is possible, but perhaps not on 64 Bit
14:37 endurans If that's the case you can be that it's an specific problem in your machine
14:38 maholtz|WORK its kubuntu - i am not doing special stuff with that
14:40 endurans We only works on Ubuntu, some 64bits and no problems with FF3.
14:40 maholtz|WORK hm, ok good to know
14:41 maholtz|WORK perhaps i should set up a new kubuntu in vm and test it there...
14:41 maholtz|WORK thanks for the hint
14:43 endurans sure
14:52 Guest35064 hm
14:52 Guest35064 kickstarter extension is only 4 times downloaded?
14:52 Guest35064 is there another popular extension wizard extension?
14:54 just2b the counter got a bug, take it
14:54 just2b and the version is new, count is resetted for each version
14:55 HardPhuck what is the fastest way to get all feusernames into an array
14:57 HardPhuck while ($username = $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->sql_fetch_assoc($res)) { $usernames[] = $username; }
14:57 HardPhuck i tried this but only need the array like this (user1,user2,... )
14:58 macolo cheers
14:59 macolo number-5, domain record?
15:00 _pedda__ ?
15:00 macolo i try to communicate with the typo3bot
15:00 macolo *g*
15:01 _pedda__ ah ok..
15:01 macolo but it's not working
15:01 maholtz|WORK number-5 is listening but not answering
15:01 macolo ay
15:01 m4rtijn re
15:02 macolo jup, looks like it's pretty silent
15:04 macolo well, does somebody have an idea why "domain record" does not consider wildcards (*)?
15:04 macolo ex: *.tamisiech.com as a domain record does not route anything
15:05 macolo whereas www.tamisiech.com routes, of course, "www.tamisiech.com" but (of course not) blabla.tamisiech.com
15:06 tobi_t3w macolo i think if you dont add a domain record in the first page tree it will act as wildcard
15:12 kaktuspalme hi there
15:12 macolo thx toby, I tried, but i'd like to route: everything.typodrive.com (i.e. babla.typodrive.com, 123.typodrive.com)
15:12 kaktuspalme does someone know, how I can acces typoscript Vars in a extension in the backend?
15:12 kaktuspalme in a backend module?
15:14 macolo which would domain records require to accept a wildcard,I guess
15:16 HardPhuck how do i extract values from an assoc array
15:16 HardPhuck exec_SELECTquery
15:17 HardPhuck i use this to get one field from all enties
15:18 HardPhuck ah solved
15:18 maholtz|WORK be or fe?
15:18 HardPhuck fe
15:18 maholtz|WORK fe: think about typoscript:)
15:19 HardPhuck http://pastebin.com/d5c01b62f
15:19 HardPhuck is this okay
15:19 maholtz|WORK http://support.typo3.org/snippets/c/106/
15:20 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: while ($row = $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->sql_fetch_assoc($res)) {
15:20 maholtz|WORK $usernames[] = $row['username'];
15:20 maholtz|WORK }
15:21 HardPhuck ah lol
15:21 HardPhuck i feel so ashamed right now :D
15:21 maholtz|WORK and free result before return
15:21 maholtz|WORK no need for
15:21 maholtz|WORK being ashamed
15:21 maholtz|WORK please:)
15:21 HardPhuck :D
15:21 HardPhuck free result before return?
15:21 maholtz|WORK yep, otherwise you will not free result
15:22 maholtz|WORK you should use an better ide;)
15:22 maholtz|WORK which warns you about such things
15:22 HardPhuck :)
15:23 HardPhuck i think it's my lack of knowledge, not IDE :)
15:23 maholtz|WORK the ide could give you a hint;)
15:24 HardPhuck they do that? :)
15:26 maholtz|WORK some does, i though eclipse is doing it, perhaps only zend..?
15:26 HardPhuck will try it then :)
15:34 No5251 hi. how can i restrict be users access to their own records?
15:35 kaktuspalme ok, next try :) does someone know how i can access typoscript variables in a self-written backend module?
15:41 HardPhuck how can i generate a random hash
15:42 HardPhuck ah found it
15:44 No5251 kaktuspalme: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-german/2007-January/027940.html
15:46 kaktuspalme No5251: looks interesting, thx
15:47 turuburu hi guys
15:58 theconic does T3 have problems with great HTML CEs?
15:58 theconic i have one with 900 lines, but it is not displayed
15:58 pmk65 No5251: just set access so that no group, but only the owner has access to the records.
15:58 theconic it behaves like i deleted it...
15:59 pmk65 theconic: Have you tried reducing the number of lines? Just to see if it displays with less content..
16:00 pmk65 Also check if it's valid HTML.
16:02 theconic it is valid, checked with dreamweaver...
16:03 theconic i don't know how to reduce the lines, by hand it would be too much work
16:04 maholtz|WORK reduce it to "helloworld"
16:04 No5251 pmk65: how can i do this for elements, not for pages?
16:05 pmk65 I just made a test with 2500 lines of HTML. Everything was displayed correct.
16:06 theconic ok, thanks
16:07 pmk65 No5251: You can oly set the access on pagelevel, but it affects all CE on that page.
16:07 theconic then i made a mistake, probably
16:07 pmk65 So if its records for some ext, like tt_news records. You just set the access level on the sysfolder.
16:08 pmk65 theconic: Try validating the html, and see if it's valid. Maybe TYPO3 removes it if it's not valid XHTML?
16:10 Briareos1 just to note, maholtz|WORK, i am also using FF3 on kubuntu (and used FF2 before) - no crashes.
16:11 maholtz|WORK @Briareos1: thx for the hint. So i should clear my profile perhaps?
16:14 maholtz|WORK @Briareos1: 64Bit?
16:14 Briareos1 macolo: got your solution to the wildcard-thing already?
16:15 Briareos1 maholtz|WORK yes (sorry was reading everything i missed during the last 2 hours :)
16:15 Briareos1 maholtz|WORK any more info on when it crashes?
16:16 maholtz|WORK no - i disabled all extensions and was able to work about 15minutes - with extensions editing in typo3 be it was about 2 minutes
16:16 maholtz|WORK not much fun
16:16 Briareos1 maholtz|WORK instant crashes ? i experienced that sometimes FF would exhaust my memory (though i'm not sure if it was only FF's fault)
16:16 maholtz|WORK ff2 works
16:16 maholtz|WORK yeah, ff "eats" memory - a lot
16:16 Briareos1 maholtz|WORK disabled extensions = FFox extensions?
16:16 maholtz|WORK yes:)
16:17 Briareos1 try to move your whole ~/.mozilla folder to something else and then start up firefox
16:17 maholtz|WORK i will. but at i am at work, so i will do it the next days, thanks for the hint
16:17 Briareos1 then you are "clean" - then try typo3 - if problem persists it's not your profile / your user settings
16:17 Briareos1 yw
16:17 caliel maholtz|WORK: i like learning new stuff, and i am noticing how powerful this cms is (sorry for lateness in my answer, i was reading some typo3 docs)... of course somebody i'll come here with silly questions :P
16:18 caliel s/somebody/sometimes
16:18 maholtz|WORK we all did:)
16:19 Briareos1 about the language:[All] - thanks to the links pmk65 provided i found this site: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_l10nguide/current/ and I've been working thru that doc now, but still i am not seeing the hint i need
16:19 caliel maholtz|WORK: i am searching a way to create a .t3x template to install. can you give me some good doc to read ?
16:19 Briareos1 to be honest - i am exhausted today already - may someone lend me his/her brain ? :D
16:20 caliel now i finished my template, i would like to 'install' it on other site without having to compile template setup handly
16:20 Briareos1 anyway in the doc there's things about the [All] mentioned
16:21 maholtz|WORK @caliel: .t3x means extensions, you do not need it
16:21 maholtz|WORK atm
16:21 maholtz|WORK not for an template
16:22 caliel maholtz|WORK: sorry I ment .t3d
16:23 maholtz|WORK ah, i started to answer how to make t3d as i saw you wrote t3x *g*
16:23 caliel :P
16:23 caliel my fault
16:23 maholtz|WORK backend: click right on globe or another page, select import/export
16:24 caliel that way I can publish my CC template, do I ?
16:24 maholtz|WORK there is a point with a submenu in german "weitere einstelleungen..."
16:24 maholtz|WORK you can copy your page tree
16:24 maholtz|WORK with typoscript template, template files and page tree
16:25 caliel oh well, I found 'eport to .t3d'
16:25 caliel +x
16:25 caliel so the next step would be to just 'import' the .t3d file
16:25 caliel wonderful this cms
16:26 maholtz|WORK yep, but there are so many functions... you will never find them all
16:27 caliel of course not, i'm just at the beginning of the trip
16:28 maholtz|WORK well, me to since years;)
16:29 caliel well and what about SEF links ? is there some module that complain this ?
16:29 maholtz|WORK realurl?
16:30 maholtz|WORK page/folder/folder2/helloworld.html
16:30 caliel search engine friendly, yes
16:30 HardPhuck how do i get the full URL of the current page
16:30 HardPhuck $GLOBALS['TSFE']->id
16:30 HardPhuck this only gives me the id
16:30 HardPhuck but i need the whole link
16:30 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: BE or FE?
16:30 HardPhuck FE
16:30 maholtz|WORK typolink
16:30 caliel what's this BE / FE difference ?
16:31 maholtz|WORK 10 = TEXT
16:31 maholtz|WORK 10.typolink.parameter.data = TSFE:id
16:31 maholtz|WORK 10.typolink.returnLast = url
16:31 HardPhuck maholtz, i need the code not TS
16:31 maholtz|WORK $cObj->typoLink()
16:32 maholtz|WORK @caliel: different apis per default, because you do not need frontend specific stuff etc. (permissions, rendering etc)
16:33 HardPhuck good thing i have Dmitry's book :)
16:33 caliel ah ok BackEnd and FrontEnd
16:33 maholtz|WORK ups, yep, sorry didnt thought about
16:33 caliel mmm i think i'm purchasing the book too, hope to find it somewhere in my native language
16:34 maholtz|WORK @caliel: http://wiki.typo3.org/De:Glossary
16:34 caliel HardPhuck: is that book advised on the homepage of the site ?
16:34 caliel thx maholtz|WORK
16:34 HardPhuck dunno
16:34 HardPhuck but it's great
16:34 maholtz|WORK that book is an developer book, if you want to start writing extensions
16:34 HardPhuck learned alot
16:37 caliel oh well, no, I was thinking about this Rene Fritz / Hinderink / Altmann book from packt publishing... i'm still young to learn extensions development now, in the future certainly
16:38 chefan and don't forget to grep the code
16:38 chefan it sometimes changes much faster than the books get written ;)
16:38 HardPhuck grep the code ?
16:39 chefan working on windows?
16:39 caliel well chefan i am noticing how there's not DOC module now, and following some steps of 2004 tutorials require some attention :P
16:40 caliel (just an example)
16:40 chefan hehe, yup. i hit on doc/code differences with hooks
16:40 HardPhuck no, mac os
16:40 chefan mac os has freebsd userland irrc, so try "man grep"
16:40 chefan irc
16:40 Briareos1 I'm finished for today. good evening + weekend, guys
16:41 caliel Briareos1: good w.e. to you bye :)
16:41 chefan hf
16:41 maholtz|WORK bye:)
16:41 Briareos1 ty bye
16:42 caliel is there a repository for ts templates ? i would be glad to share this next t3d (if I'll get the whole line soon...)
16:42 chefan HardPhuck: fyc, grep is a command line pattern matcher
16:43 HardPhuck and how can i use it on my code?
16:43 chefan great to dig methods out of large code bases, if you don't use an ide
16:43 caliel HardPhuck: the best way could be to search recursively
16:43 caliel grep -inlr "pattern" dir
16:43 dinsdale07 sr_frontend_register: The confirmation e-mails are send as hostname/url_to_confirm and NOT domainname/url_to_confirm. I have a valid domain name record in typo3
16:43 HardPhuck i use IDE now :D
16:44 chefan the mac os built in one?
16:44 caliel i use vim sigh :° i forget to create a good .vimrc with snippets everytimes :°°°°
16:44 HardPhuck nah
16:44 chefan forgot what it's called
16:44 HardPhuck Komodo
16:44 dinsdale07 HardPhuck, what did you settle for - sorry I went out the other day when you were talking about it.
16:44 dinsdale07 Ah - I see.
16:44 dinsdale07 300 bucks?
16:45 chefan its free, or not?
16:46 caliel chefan: what editor do you use ?
16:46 chefan haven't tried it, but i remember seeing it on some list of free development tools
16:46 dinsdale07 chefan, when I downloaded it from active state it was a 30 day trial version.
16:46 chefan depends on the job, from vi to eclipse
16:46 caliel chefan: is there some snippets and hightlight for typoscript ?
16:46 caliel (as you know of course)
16:47 chefan for most projects i use jedit
16:47 chefan i remember jedit to have a plugin for that
16:47 chefan let me check
16:47 HardPhuck chefan: no Komodo isn't free
16:47 HardPhuck 300 bucks yes
16:47 HardPhuck im still on my trial period
16:48 dinsdale07 regarding my problem with sr_frontend_register, it depends whether you call the registration form from hostname or domainname - that did the trick :-)
16:49 chefan caliel: yep, jedit has a plugin for typoscript
16:50 dinsdale07 HardPhuck, komodo had some nice features over eclipse PDT like sftp edit, more language support. But for what I use it i'm not going to pay 300 bucks for it.
16:50 dinsdale07 HardPhuck, how's about the debugging features in komodo, can you step through code and look into variables?
16:51 HardPhuck yes
16:52 HardPhuck maholtz|WORK: the configuration you gave me only gives the page name and no full url
16:52 caliel oh, hey... what the ****, what's this too much <p class="bodytext"> in the page ?
16:52 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck:you should be able to use it as link - depends on realurl etc
16:54 chefan caliel: for phpscripting and things like typoscript, jedit is fine
16:55 chefan does not eat up all your resources, is highly extendable and generally stays out of your way while developing
16:56 caliel i am emerging it, chefan, i'll give it a try
16:56 caliel now i'm stuck for 2 reasons :
16:56 caliel 1) my content is full of <p class="bodytext">
16:56 caliel 2) headings start with <h1>, and i would like to nest an <h3> followed by a <h4>
16:58 dinsdale07 regarding the headers: h1-h5 corresponds to the dropdown Layout 1-Layout 5 in the content element you are working on.
16:59 caliel dinsdale07: i use to name h1 for page title, h2 for subtitle and h3 for leading paragraphs, just for FAE requirements on accessibility
16:59 caliel where can I change the way to start with an h3 ?
17:00 HardPhuck 'returnLast' => 'url',
17:00 HardPhuck thise should do it but it doesnt
17:00 HardPhuck acoording to the docs
17:02 chefan ah, i mixed that up. there is an openkomodo around. anyone tried that?
17:02 maholtz|WORK show your code
17:02 dinsdale07 caliel hm, if you delete layout 1 and 2 would that do the trick?
17:03 caliel dinsdale07: i dunno where are layouts :P
17:03 caliel i'm searching both in BE and in wiki.typo3.org
17:03 caliel basically i didn't know to project my css basing on typo3 conventions so I'm stuck a bit
17:04 HardPhuck http://pastebin.com/d51f7c669
17:04 caliel think that content.defaultHeaderType = 3 will do the trick
17:04 caliel boh
17:05 maholtz|WORK @caliel: look for page ts config: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsconfig/current/
17:06 caliel thanks maholtz|WORK
17:06 maholtz|WORK thats the way to alter backend for editors
17:06 maholtz|WORK typoscript template: defines the way each table and field will be rendered
17:08 caliel yes, but what if i wish to change class names i.e. ?
17:08 maholtz|WORK which class name?
17:09 caliel for example
17:09 caliel I had <h3>This heading</h3>
17:09 caliel now this has been substituted by
17:09 caliel <div class="csc-header csc-header-n1"><h1 class="csc-firstHeader">Chi siamo</h1></div>
17:10 caliel that, of course, is the header name i put in contents, but adds, according to my limited point of view, an extra div i don't think to need, and then, extra <p class="bodytext">.
17:11 caliel i would like to delete the extra div and "s/h1/h3/"
17:11 maholtz|WORK hehe - thats css_styled_content
17:11 maholtz|WORK there are about 2000 lines typoscript, which defines that
17:11 maholtz|WORK you can alter it via typoscript object browser, f.e.
17:12 caliel is there another way to get the contents w/o using css_styled_content ?
17:12 maholtz|WORK yep, do it yourself
17:12 maholtz|WORK css_styled_content is default typoscript, you can write your own
17:12 caliel oh well
17:12 maholtz|WORK or copy it and remove the stuff you dont like
17:12 maholtz|WORK page = PAGE
17:12 maholtz|WORK page.10 = TEXT
17:12 maholtz|WORK page.10.value = hello world
17:12 maholtz|WORK its enough:)
17:13 caliel ahahah of course :D
17:13 caliel well do I need to hack in the core, or there's some shortcut to edit the addon in the be ?
17:13 maholtz|WORK there is no need to hack the core for beginners
17:14 maholtz|WORK there is the template modul
17:14 maholtz|WORK take object browser and look
17:15 maholtz|WORK perhaps http://wiki.typo3.org/Ts45min helps to understand how it works
17:15 caliel oh, ok, so that the last value would override the css_styled_content default
17:15 maholtz|WORK yep
17:16 caliel ok stop questions, thanks for the answers, i have enough to study for today. But i'm satisfied being this my first typo3 work.
17:16 caliel thanks really much for help :)
17:16 HardPhuck maholtz|WORK: did you check my code/
17:16 maholtz|WORK your welcome
17:18 dinsdale07 caliel, I think I found the lines in question. Go to the template module - Template Analyser - select css-styled-content and search for layout.
17:18 caliel oh ok dinsdale07, let me check, I was reading typo3_src-4.2.3/typo3/sysext/css_styled_content/static/setup.exe to find 'incriminated' lines :D
17:18 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: looks good?
17:19 HardPhuck but i only get mypage.html?hash=....
17:20 HardPhuck i need http://www.myurl.com/mypath/mypage.html?hash...
17:20 HardPhuck or myurl.com/mypath/mypage.html...
17:20 maholtz|WORK ah, ok - typolink produced links you need for fe-rendering
17:20 HardPhuck yes
17:22 PiMB hey guys,
17:22 PiMB quick question before the beginning of the weekend.
17:22 caliel dinsdale07: I cannot modify there, but I think I have to modify DefaultType
17:22 PiMB I like to know how I can change the default classnames in the RTEhtmlarea
17:23 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: sry, i think you have to search api for that
17:23 PiMB I know it's possible with typoscript, just can't find it.
17:23 dinsdale07 caliel, you should be able to override this via typoscript in you main template.
17:23 d|g hi all
17:24 dinsdale07 shock, it's already friday again!!!
17:24 caliel eheh yes i'm working on that
17:25 caliel but doesn't work -.-'
17:26 caliel it will... good w.e. to every one bye bye :)
17:26 _pedda__ bye
17:35 caliel dinsdale07: it was simpler than never... in Template -> Constant edits there's the default Header level
17:37 dinsdale07 haha, that's typo3. But I feel I have to get a better grip on these settings myself. RTE config is still a big mystery for me.
17:42 caliel other thing learned, never do copy/paste of contents, it doesn't format as you wish, or, if it does, i dunno yet eheh
17:44 dinsdale07 caliel, are you using templavoila or classic marker template
17:44 caliel what are these things ?
17:44 caliel no dinsdale07 i'm using the "modern template building"
17:45 caliel but, as I had to create a dummy site, I created a whole template from scratch, just to learn better
17:45 caliel btw, what's templavoila/classic marker template ?
17:45 dinsdale07 it's futuristic template building / modern template building
17:45 _pedda__ cu all ..
17:46 _pedda__ feierabend :)
17:46 caliel bye _pedda__
17:46 caliel in my dialect, pedda means 'drunkness' eheh :)
17:46 dinsdale07 I wish I was in GMT +1 :-)
17:46 caliel dinsdale07: well, i followed the tutorial for modern template building part 1
17:46 _pedda__ hehe
17:47 caliel but since I don't like <td> formatted output I used a template of mine, and I noticed that I have to write down some typo3 own classes next time
17:48 dinsdale07 that's where you place marker in your template and replace them in typo3. in Templavoila you don't modify the original template but define regions to be replaced.
17:49 caliel mmm well, i installed an extensions, auto parser, something like this
17:49 dinsdale07 It's more of a point and click operation. But people use both, I have the feeling the hardcore typo3ler even prefer the classic method.
17:49 caliel is it this ?
17:49 dinsdale07 yes, that's modern. futuristic does the same thing but with templavoila.
17:49 caliel while the classic method is to hard code the ### SOMETHING ### inside the html, am I right ?
17:50 dinsdale07 correct
17:50 caliel i have to learn really fast terminology, i feel such an idiot eheh
17:50 caliel well i think that the classic would be more powerful
17:50 caliel to have the full control of what you're doin'
17:53 dinsdale07 depends although there are extension who extend both methods, templavoila has some nice features by default as well. e.G you can create references instead of copies. you also can visually nest your content elements in Frontend Content Elements (FCE)
17:54 caliel what the bad point about this visual tool ?
17:55 caliel s/what/what's
17:58 tobi_t3w references instead of copies can be done also with the records object, although fce's can be a nice thing
17:58 dinsdale07 hm ... I think with autoparser you can influence Content Elements (CE's) directly via TS, it's more difficult with Templavoila (TV)
17:58 caliel do you mean less flexibility ?
17:58 tobi_t3w downside is that you have less control with typoscript because templavoila objects use a different scope, also remapping after changing some small thing in the html template can be frustrating
17:59 HardPhuck maholtz|WORK: you here/
17:59 maholtz|WORK a few minutes, yes
17:59 HardPhuck found it
17:59 tobi_t3w also i think that templavoila is more beginner friendly
17:59 HardPhuck t3lib_div::getIndpEnv('TYPO3_REQUEST_URL')
17:59 caliel tobi_t3w: as every wysiwyg tools, the more user-friendly, the less flexible
18:00 maholtz|WORK ah, yep, i remember...
18:00 tobi_t3w yes .. i'm also not a fan of storing XML in a single blob field in the database .. you can't just read the templavoila fields with typoscript
18:01 dinsdale07 you can include TS in the xml though. it's not well documented though.
18:01 tobi_t3w yes thats possible, but not everything works because you are out of scope
18:01 caliel i wonder why ;P
18:02 tobi_t3w i did quite some projects with classic methods and maybe 5 with templavoila .. but i never was really happy with templavoila
18:02 m4rtijn eek TV
18:02 tobi_t3w but FCE's are really a cool thing
18:02 HardPhuck never used TV on a live site
18:03 dinsdale07 I think ICE is supposed to give the same funcitonality also to Autoparser sites.
18:03 HardPhuck it says 'simple point and click interface' but it just ads confusion :)
18:04 dinsdale07 If you done it a couple of times it
18:04 caliel but is it possible to change method in the same site ?
18:05 tobi_t3w going from classic to templavoila is quite easy, the other way arround not
18:05 dinsdale07 I think the problem is also that TV changes the default page module if I'm not mistaken so - no
18:05 maholtz|WORK i have to go - bye
18:05 tobi_t3w although i did also a demo page where i mixed up both aproaches, turned out quite well
18:05 HardPhuck bye maholtz|WORK
18:05 dinsdale07 how did you do that tobi_t3w, regarding the TV page module?
18:06 tobi_t3w i used the TV page module with dummy datasources for content only and a html template with markers for the rest
18:06 caliel bye maholtz|WORK
18:06 dinsdale07 were you able to add content into the columns with the TV page module?
18:07 tobi_t3w yes, there is the oldstylecolumn tag in templavoila xml which you can use
18:07 tobi_t3w so i addet content with the tv module and outputted it with styles.content.*
18:10 dinsdale07 I think I will try that at some point.
18:11 tobi_t3w the nice thing is you have FCE's, custom backend module from TV but more control with typoscript
18:13 dinsdale07 Caliel, I've used templavoila in probably 15 small to medium sites. I consider it a time saver which is the main reason I use it.
18:14 dinsdale07 tobi_t3w, did you try ICE yet - I think it comes pretty close to FCE's. Allows you to use subtemplates.
18:14 tobi_t3w i've only used tv with big sites where i needet a lot of custom content elements .. for small to medium sites i am usually faster without tv *g*
18:14 tobi_t3w no i never looked into ICE
18:16 dinsdale07 last time I tried it it was very alpha but that's a while ago. if you miss FCE in autoparser it might be worth a shot.
18:18 tobi_t3w i think i will have a look at it .. for now i use kickstarter and typoscript TEMPLATE for a "fce replacement"
18:24 s-andersen Hi, I'm trying to make som single-signon between TYPO3 and WordPress. I'm at a place, where usernames and passwords are identical between the two systems, I want the login to work through TYPO3. So when a user logs in on the TYPO3 frontend he will automatically be logged in to WordPress, if he decides to goto his blog.
18:30 tobi_t3w s-andersen: there is www.single-signon.com but wordpress is not yed done
18:52 caliel well dinsdale07 i think that the less they pay, the fast we work ;)
18:53 caliel that case, we don't ever mind about perfection
19:04 dinsdale07 I don't understand @ caliel do you think perfection or endprice for the client is more important?
19:08 caliel dinsdale07: i was kidding
19:10 caliel the point for me is to have fun with IT and learning new stuff
19:10 caliel of course sometimes is required a particular attention to time saving
20:44 turuburu good afternoon guys

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