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00:41 litzinger hi. i have a plugin called Products Group. and I need to insert 2 of htem onto the same page. Each with the same starting point sysfolder, but each plugin needs to be able to list a different group of products within that sysfolder. how do I do this?
02:31 ries litzinger: properly with pure TS.... now I don't know that extension, but if it doesn't have a good flexform that allows you to make the needed settings, only TS can help you out
02:48 litzinger how do you ignore page that are hidden in the menu with TS? I have a menu script that is listing out pages, but it seems to be taking into account that there is a page, albeit hidden, thus not printing the parent pages
04:32 ries lilalinux: if a page is set as hidden, it shouldn't print it's parent pages, unless the menu starts somewhere below that hidden pager
09:32 _pedda_ hi all
09:32 maholtz|WORK morning
10:03 jbaptiste_j hey, has anyone used typo3 mass upload before ?
10:05 maholtz|WORK yep
10:14 _pedda_ is it good ?
10:15 maholtz|WORK in 4.3 there is a new with flash
10:15 _pedda_ and useable for editors
10:15 _pedda_ oh cool
10:15 _pedda_ like the one from wp ?
10:15 maholtz|WORK that one that i know works with java
10:15 maholtz|WORK do not know that from wp
10:15 _pedda_ k
10:27 nd_ http://pastebin.com/d47412f98 I want to add a class to use it for TR-tags, preferably in row-properties... my TS does not work. Ideas?
10:36 jbaptiste_j hello folks
10:37 beli hi there
10:37 beli what blog extension to use with typo3?
11:06 Celestar hey peops
11:09 nd_ beli: I know of timtab but didn't come around to try it yet
11:10 Celestar can one limit the access to the "admininterface" to a specific subnet?
11:21 beli Celestar: maybe, but you could at least create .htaccess doing it
11:21 Celestar yeah
11:21 Celestar that's what I have now, I'm just wondering whether there is a more elegant way
11:22 beli its a secure way
11:22 Celestar on another note, where can I get rid of the typo3 comment in the HTML header?
11:22 beli and thats what matters here
11:22 Celestar beli: that it is ;)
11:23 beli Celestar: i dont know if its ok with the license to do that, but you could walk the code with some regexp tool and replace it
11:23 Celestar heh (=
11:23 Celestar will check the license
11:24 beli Celestar: for security you yould replace typo3 to t y p o three for example
11:24 beli so no automatic scan process will find it
11:24 Celestar yeah
11:24 Celestar typ03 :P
11:24 Celestar 1yp03?
11:25 beli but always remember that security by obscurity just gives a small advantage for aimed attacks....its just well for bad scanners/global hacks
11:25 Celestar yep
11:26 Celestar but if you have many small pages, it also saves a bit of bandwidth
11:26 beli Celestar: in my eyes the backend directory should be configurable in localconf.php
11:35 Celestar hail maholtz ;D
11:37 maholtz|WORK moin
11:44 Celestar hm .. sourceopt might get rid of the header comment
12:06 beli Celestar: why not use find and sed? ;)
12:07 beli Celestar: but if someone tries typo3 backend dir, and its locked...its clear that you use typo3 here ;)
12:31 HardPhuck Total Number of Alerts: 902
12:31 HardPhuck whoa :)
12:46 Provito anyone got the templavoila drag to move within sections working?
12:46 Provito ah found the bug report
12:47 gazui anyone know how to remove default wrappers around images (image only content element)
12:48 gazui i dindt find nothing useful on google.. ok, maybe my searches are wrong :|
12:49 Provito are you using css_styled_content ?
12:49 gazui yes
12:50 Provito check that extension then
12:50 gazui ok, i will. tnx
12:53 Provito upgrading to 4.2.8 has fixed the issue with moving the FCE container elements excellent
12:59 jbaptiste_j do you have a link to a doc describinh this issue, provito ?
13:00 Provito describing what issue sorry?
13:00 jbaptiste_j the issue with moving the FCE container elements
13:00 Provito http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=10998
13:00 jbaptiste_j thx
13:00 Provito affected 4.2.6 fixed in 4.2.8
13:01 Provito nice feature being able to move the FCE container elements
13:01 Celestar *sneeze*
13:01 Provito Celestar, ?
13:01 Celestar nothing :P
13:01 Celestar just trying to break the lunchbreak silence :P
13:02 jbaptiste_j want a funny one ? there was an ethernet cable looping on a switch in one of our classrooms, this brought down our web server, isn't that nice ?
13:03 Celestar it brought down the SERVER?
13:03 jbaptiste_j yep
13:03 Provito well the network perhaps but not the box surely?
13:03 jbaptiste_j the server is just a computer like another on the local network
13:03 Celestar you need better switches :P
13:03 jbaptiste_j I mean the server was working but you could'nt ping it
13:04 jbaptiste_j it put the server offline, not exactly down
13:04 Celestar why can't I find the sourceopt plugin O_o
13:04 Provito check forge
13:04 Celestar well a sub-standard switch will choke with a single loop
13:04 Provito it's a bit confusing with both forge and the extension repository nowadays
13:05 Celestar or some easy way to get rid of the comment in the header :P
13:08 maholtz|WORK @Provito: there is a difference between extensions under developement and extensions in TER:)
13:08 Provito maholtz|WORK, as long as the extensions in forge get back into the repository then great
13:08 maholtz|WORK that is the way
13:08 maholtz|WORK if not, there will be a reason
13:12 Provito one for the tv todo list, copy and paste section elements
13:24 maholtz|WORK @Provito: if there are some issues open, you could solve them perhaps it will get into ter then
13:47 Celestar how do I set the "CUR" on a language menu?
14:00 HardPhuck bloody zend studio
14:01 HardPhuck i can't get it do stop on breakpoints
14:01 HardPhuck with zend debugger
14:03 HardPhuck i hate it :)
14:08 Celestar can I somehow change the name of a whole website. It's currently named "New TYPO3 site" and I'm not happy with that :P
14:08 Provito Celestar, root template title
14:09 Celestar the root template title is different ;)
14:09 Provito Celestar, sorry, I meant install sitename
14:10 Provito and Template Sitetitle
14:10 Celestar I see
14:10 Provito that will change it in the backend and frontend
14:12 Celestar and in localconf.php :P
14:43 foool_ change it in install near where you have the database name in basic configuration (scroll down)
14:46 hvnqke_work will PHP automatically define integers as int64 if the server is 64bit?
14:54 ries hvnqke_work: check this by printing PHP_INT_SIZE ??
14:55 jbaptiste_j my php server (linux) doesn't have mail() can I make him use an existing windows smtp server ?
14:56 ries Sorry, I think I neede dto say PHP_INT_MAX
14:57 ries jbaptiste_j: I believe so yes, I just never done it because i never used windows for any development and deployment of web appliocations
14:58 jbaptiste_j the webserver is Linux just the root doesn't want to configure it to send any mails
14:58 jbaptiste_j but we have a smtp server on the side that happens to be Windows
14:58 maholtz|WORK @jbaptiste_j: imho there are two approches
14:58 jbaptiste_j by the way thx for answering ries
14:59 ries jbaptiste_j: I think you can use that... google is your fiend here
14:59 maholtz|WORK there is something called nullmailer which acts like an mailserver on your linux machine and connects as client to the mailserver
15:00 jbaptiste_j well I guess google is going to be a much better firend with the keyword "nullserver"
15:00 jbaptiste_j nullmailer sorry
15:01 maholtz|WORK or you use stoefln_pear_mail
15:01 jbaptiste_j by the way here is a little tool that can be funny sometimes http://lmgtfy.com/
15:01 maholtz|WORK but extensions which does not use t3lib_htmlmail and install tool will not be affected
15:02 jbaptiste_j I need mail mostly for mailformplus and workflow and seminar manager, so you would advise me to try nullmailer right ?
15:02 nd_ Anyone here using rggooglemaps? How do I select the record to show? I can only select categories..!?
15:06 jbaptiste_j by the way thank you maholtz nullmailer looks like it will do the job
15:19 HardPhuck is tt_products any good?
15:19 HardPhuck i need a simple web shop plugin for typo3
15:20 maholtz|WORK @jbaptiste_j: np
15:21 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: perhaps kb_shop could help? i do not like tt_products because of its architecture and there is (or was) a strange behavior regarding version numbers
15:21 maholtz|WORK in tt_products updates were made without changing version numbers....
15:22 HardPhuck hmm will try that
15:22 HardPhuck i don't like tt_products as well that's why i'm asking
15:23 maholtz|WORK kb== bernhard kraft, so i would expect that shop is good
15:24 maholtz|WORK or use commerce, but that is not simple...
15:31 pmk65 tt_products is payware
15:32 pmk65 Only one update is released for tt_products each year. to get bugfix updates etc. you'll have to pay around 500¬ to get the updates.
15:34 steffen_ hi
15:35 steffen_ short question: i have a backend user who is a member of two groups. each groups has specific rights. one of the groups is for writing tt_news elements. is there a way, to limit this right to a specific db mount?
15:36 steffen_ i want to make sure, that the user does not write new news elements in other sites, where is has write permissions
15:43 HardPhuck kb_shop is deprecated i guess i'll have to use kb_kickstarter
15:43 HardPhuck to produce own shop
15:43 pmk65 steffen_: the user inherits all dbmounts from the groups they are members of.
15:44 steffen_ and the rights a concatenated, right? so no chance actual to realise, what i want zo archieve?
15:44 pmk65 HardPuck: There's also this one -> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/extendedshop/current/
15:44 pmk65 and this one http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/trade/current/
15:45 pmk65 and this one http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/pt_gsashop/current/
15:47 pmk65 steffen_: i don't think you can exclude a dbmount for a selected group, if they have access to the dbmount in another group they are member of. (TYPO3 access system sucks)
15:47 pmk65 Maybe you can do it by rearranging the groups/dbmounts , but its a pain..
15:48 steffen_ pmk65, i'm using groups to seperate, what the user can see in the be
15:49 steffen_ i have a special group for the news sysfolder, this sysfolder is the only db mount of the group news. the group is also able to modify the tt_news table. but my specific user can no insert tt_news elements whereever he wants in his db mount from his primary group
15:49 steffen_ i thought there is perhaps a way, so need to manually check, what they are doing
15:49 pmk65 if you remove the dbmounts from those groups, and create some extra groups which controls the dbmount access, then you can add/remove those groups to the main groups. depending on which dbmounts the groups should have access too.
15:50 steffen_ what i want to say is: if one group has a specific db mount and can edit db tables, they can insert all the allowed elements in each site they can see from their other groups
15:51 steffen_ sorry, i don't know how to right this down in a better english
16:44 nd_ Nobody using rggooglemap?
16:46 HardPhuck anyone used kb_kickstarter?
16:59 Denyerec Guten Abend Alles!
17:00 Denyerec +t
17:00 Denyerec and one of those umlauut things
17:00 maholtz|WORK ü
17:05 nd_ hehe
17:22 steffen_ äöü
17:32 steffen_ good bye
17:36 maholtz|WORK bye
17:58 ries was the new caching framework added to 4.2.x?? Or is that a 4.3 thing?
18:03 Denyerec Bah
18:03 Denyerec bloody BSOD
18:03 Denyerec Trier is a beautiful place.
18:03 Denyerec And for only £3 each way, great value.
19:09 timdeluxe ries: it comes with 4.3 -> http://news.typo3.org/news/article/typo3-43-alpha-1/
19:13 ries timdeluxe: I thought so already... I will make my own little cache then :)
19:15 timdeluxe or update to 4.3 alpha3 ;)
19:25 litzinger has anyone encountered strange character encoding issues in RTE fields? i have paragraphs of text that render fine in the BE and they contain mdashes, smart quotes etc, but when I go to the FE the entire paragraph of text isn't rendered
20:05 skurfuerst hey everybody
20:16 derchiller hi
20:18 derchiller i dont know how to make typo3 update my changes (to template). i've edited the template and saved my work (changed a picture). when i now navigate through the page, only one site loads the new path of the image, all others don't
20:18 Provito clear cache
20:18 derchiller how/wehre?
20:18 Provito what typo3 version?
20:19 derchiller probably newest
20:19 Provito top right next to the magnifying glass, click to see a dropdown clear all caches
20:20 derchiller found it, thanks
20:20 derchiller works, thank u very much!
20:20 Provito in your template setup while debugging set:
20:20 Provito config.no_cache = 1
20:20 Provito page.config.no_cache = 1
20:21 Provito assuming your tscript is not in external included files you'll see the changes immediately
20:21 Provito I edit the tscript initially in the template setup then move to external files source code managed when it works
20:24 derchiller me also
20:24 derchiller but the filename changed
20:25 derchiller i'll try your code
20:26 Provito unfortunately if a file is included typoscript they require the cache to be cleared for the updates to be seen. That's why I move any block to the template setup if I'm working on a part of tscript
20:27 derchiller read about it, typo3 users have to clear cache all the time, it's like a hobby
21:53 ries derchiller: that's not really true.... why do you say that?
23:26 mquintus ahoy
23:33 skurfuerst1 hi mquintus

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