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00:43 Denyerec gute nacht alles
00:43 Denyerec sleepytime
03:07 lazarus477 Howdy folks.
03:08 lazarus477 Question. Which is prefered these days. Using the template auto parser extension or the newer TemplaViola?
03:36 lazarus477 Question. Which is prefered these days. Using the template auto parser extension or the newer TemplaViola?
03:53 kmartiin lazarus477: its your choice as i said some days ago
03:57 lazarus477 kmartiin: I figured you would be the one to answer this question :-)
03:57 lazarus477 kmartiin: Good answer. I first studied one now studying the other. Want to see what each approach has to offer.
04:01 kmartiin good luck
04:01 kmartiin im going to sleep now
04:01 kmartiin bye
09:08 ceegee good morning
09:09 dokma good morning ceegee
09:11 ceegee I have a problem with content type "text with image": first there comes a lot of space, then there is my text, and then the image. I want to remove the space at top of the site, but can not find the right option to do so. I think its caused by one of the csc css classes which are included in the source code by typo.
09:12 dokma ceegee: do you have webdeveloper extension in firefox?
09:13 ceegee dokma: no I dont have
09:14 dokma the sooner you install it the better for you
09:14 dokma it's a must have
09:14 dokma you would solve this issue in seconds with it
09:18 pmk65 Anyone knows if there exists a FE loginbox that can redirect based on referer? (felogin doesn't work)
09:18 pmk65 There's a SVN version of "felogin" where the problem have been fixed, but it only works for the 4.3 branch. :(
09:19 dokma is 4.3 so different that you can't downpatch it?
09:19 dokma probably just a few lines make problems
09:22 pmk65 I tried the felogin plugin from 4.3, overriding the version check, but it didn't work. (No output from the plugin. But apparently others have that problem too)
09:23 dokma did you try to debug it
09:23 dokma it's probably just a line or two that make problems
09:24 pmk65 I don't have time to do that. (I tried yesterday) So I guess I'll have to write my own plugin.
09:25 pmk65 I really don't understand why a plugin like "felogin" is part of the core.. It should be a normal extension like all others, so it can be updated for older versions of TYPO3 too.
09:43 Denyerec hey dokma, pmk
09:44 pmk65 Hi Denyer
09:44 dokma hey Denyerec :D
09:56 ceegee dokma: https://intranet.bsisysteme.eu/typo3/index.php?id=48 ... you see the problem? I cant figure out why this happens
10:02 dokma ceegee: this one is solved by classical remove until it works
10:02 dokma ceegee: just save the page somewhere and start cutting stuff out till it looses the empty space
10:08 Denyerec dokma - don't suppose you're any good with customising the RTE?
10:09 Denyerec I just need to add some custom paragraph classes and don't rememeber how :(
10:09 Denyerec Seem to recall there's some way of it automatically grabbing things from a stylesheet
10:16 dokma Denyerec: yes I remember that stuff exists, but that about it
10:17 Denyerec Hmm.
10:18 dokma Denyerec: http://blog.bitfire.at/2008/03/define-character-paragraph-table.html
10:18 Denyerec Anyone else rememeber how to get the RTE to read custom paragraph/inline styles from a CSS sheet?
10:18 Denyerec Oooh
10:18 Denyerec thanks dk
10:18 m4rtijn hi all
10:19 Denyerec hey m4rtijn
10:24 _pedda_ moin m4rtijn
10:47 ceegee dokma: how to remove and what to remove? my content? removing the image sets correct position. but creating content without images can not be the solution.
10:48 ceegee dokma: is there a way to disable the classes that will be added by typo?
10:59 dokma ceegee: there is... usually it looks something like: plugin.tx_something_pi1.__CSS_DEFAULT_STYLES >
11:19 _pedda_ re
12:02 s-andersen Does someone here know, how I can get rggooglemap extension to do the same as it does here: http://www.typo3worldmap.net/ when there are more people in the same area?
12:30 Denyerec dokma - do you know if the typo3 email spam protection works only on links in content, or on ANY link?
12:30 Denyerec and do you know how to easily create an email link in typoscript?
12:30 pmk65 Denyerec: It works on all links generated with the typolink function.
12:30 Denyerec ah ok
12:31 Denyerec so it doesn't parse the content output, only the typolinks
12:31 Denyerec ok
12:31 Denyerec time to hit the manual
12:31 pmk65 does your content come from a RTE/textarea?
12:32 pmk65 Then you can parse it through lib.parseFunc or lib.parseFunc_RTE in order for it to create the correct links.
12:38 Denyerec no, just plain TS
12:38 Denyerec so I think I need to make a typolink
12:54 Denyerec pmk65 - if I have some if. conditions
12:54 Denyerec Ignore
12:54 Denyerec How do I set a condition [ ] to work only on a specific page ID ?
12:58 mcoca Denyerec: read thishttp://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.2.1/view/1/4/
12:58 Denyerec danke
12:58 Denyerec *shudder*
12:59 m0oman *udder*
13:02 Denyerec :D
13:04 pulponair hi there
13:05 pulponair any ideas if it is possible to manipulate a PAGe's cObj->data from within TS?
13:09 pmk65 pulponair: You can read values from it, but not change anything. (Unless you make a userfunc)
13:11 maholtz|WORK @pulponair: what do you want to do?
13:13 Denyerec Bloody RTE and Opera!
13:23 pulponair pmk65: the extbase dispatcher determines the storagePid on data['pages'] no problem for plugins but when i fire stings usíng a TS page typenum ajax dispatcher it uses tsfe:id which isnt set normaly ;).
13:24 Denyerec What is with the RTE not being available in Opera?
13:24 Denyerec It always used to be...
13:54 Denyerec CoolURI or RealURL ?
13:59 mcoca Denyerec: I don't know who is better, I only use RealURL, if you decide use it, a nice guide here http://www.dawsoninteractive.com/articles/article/typo3-seo-part-2-page-urls/
14:02 Denyerec mcoca - I normally use realURL, but am always open to better competition from other extensions
14:02 Denyerec Which is why the next question...
14:02 Denyerec ...which contact form extension is good these days? :)
14:08 s-andersen Denyerec: I like mailform_plus
14:13 Denyerec Even for simple contact forms?
14:23 s-andersen Depends on what you want to do with them Denyerec
14:26 Denyerec just mail the site owner really
14:27 Denyerec but if Mailform plus has some benefit for seo/enquiry tracking...
14:27 s-andersen Nah, I think I would use the build-in form module, even though it kinda sucks :)
14:34 Denyerec It sucks for validation/spam
15:02 |00|_ I think I have met a serious limitation with Typo3 (first time !). The access rights on a page can be recorded only for 1 usergroup and thus no different access rights can be specified for another group on a same page / branch of pages. Can anyone confirm this ?
15:03 maholtz|WORK confirmed
15:03 maholtz|WORK there is an extension which allows to add more groups
15:03 maholtz|WORK do not know the key atm
15:03 |00|_ oh nice !
15:04 |00|_ thanks maholtz
15:06 maholtz|WORK np:)
15:12 LionRock hi
15:14 |00|_ typoscript incredible capacity to fail silently also often drives me nuts :-)
15:15 maholtz|WORK yep, i allways give others the advice to check for typos....
15:15 maholtz|WORK i should listen to me
15:16 maholtz|WORK instead of thinking that something does not work as used since years...
15:20 |00|_ I guess the extension you were thinking of for usergroups is 'be_acl', right ?
15:21 maholtz|WORK sounds good
15:23 |00|_ ok, thanks :-)
15:24 litzinger wow, how annoying is this. i'm using the multi-tree site setup with 2 sites. a US site and a UK site. They share a lot of similar pages, such as mysite.com/industry-solutions/
15:25 litzinger for the UK site, i have to prepend the alias with uk-, so its myuksite.com/uk-industry-solutions
15:25 litzinger thats the only way it'll work
15:26 litzinger even though the pages are in different sites, sucky ass typo can't tell the difference between the two url aliass
15:28 litzinger please tell me there is a way around this? or does typo just suck this bad?
15:35 maholtz|WORK the alias is unique in the whole system, you should be able to change that via TCA, BUT afaik the alias will be used very early in the process to dermine the right page...
15:36 litzinger I just realized I can be on myuksite.com and type in an alias for the US site, and the page loads under the myuksite.com domain
15:36 litzinger so the mulit-tree isn't actually multi-tree, which is a pile of crap
15:37 litzinger so in reality, typo has absolutely NO idea what the difference is between the sites, and declaring 'root' on a node really doesn't do jack shit
15:37 litzinger sorry for the language, but this just put a big fat monkey wrench into my project
15:48 maholtz|WORK with realurl you do not need alias
15:48 maholtz|WORK or dont use alias but links like pagename.10.html
15:48 maholtz|WORK its possible with simulatestaticdocuments
15:49 maholtz|WORK you have trouble with alias in workspace too
15:50 litzinger then i get page names like 272.0.html
15:53 maholtz|WORK yourpagetitle.272.0.html
15:53 maholtz|WORK check out config.*
15:54 litzinger Reason: File "industry-solutions0.0.html" was not found!
15:54 litzinger yeah, i turned on simulateStaticDocuments
15:54 litzinger then all the pages break
15:54 Denyerec AFAIK you could do multiple domains with realurl.
15:54 Denyerec Do you have the right domain records in the right places in the tree?
15:55 maholtz|WORK @litzinger: you activated .htaccess?
15:55 litzinger .htaccess is there
15:55 litzinger how do i tell if it's a domain record?
15:55 maholtz|WORK is it used?
15:55 litzinger yep, .htaccess is used
15:55 maholtz|WORK btw. should be industry-solutions.#pageid#.#typenum#.html
15:57 maholtz|WORK is .htaccess used by apache? is rewriterule allowed?
15:57 litzinger yes
15:58 litzinger is a domain record indicated by the globe icon?
15:59 Denyerec Ummm
15:59 Denyerec Maybe / probabl
15:59 Denyerec it shoudl be listeded in the list module as "domain record"
16:02 litzinger dont see any domain records listed. is there a tuturial or docs on this somewhere?
16:03 Denyerec If you want part of the page tree to be handled under a different domain, you need to put a domain record at the root of that tree
16:03 Denyerec Then typo knows when and when not to serve those pages
16:03 Denyerec Without it, you can't expect it to know :)
16:03 litzinger how do i add a domain record? :D
16:03 litzinger http://yfrog.com/62picture5g
16:04 litzinger thats what my tree looks like now
16:04 Denyerec just go to the list module, click the root page of the part of the tree you want it on, and click "new record"
16:04 Denyerec domain record will be on the list
16:08 litzinger ok, that stopped the ability to load a page from another site
16:08 litzinger but it still doesn't fix the aliases
16:11 litzinger if both the UK and US sites have a /contact/ page, the 2nd one gets the alias of /contact0/ assigned to it
16:14 litzinger how is the 'speaking url' field supposed to work? i enter values into it and it does not change the page urls at all
16:24 litzinger ok.... figured it out
16:25 litzinger I didnt have my other domains set in this array.... $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['EXTCONF']['realurl'] = array(
16:25 Denyerec Don't be so quick to rubbish Typo3, else we'll make you use Mambo.
16:25 Denyerec :D
16:25 litzinger $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['EXTCONF']['realurl'] = array(
16:25 litzinger mysite.net' => $tx_realurl_config,
16:25 litzinger mysite-uk.net' => $tx_realurl_config,
16:26 litzinger there are plenty of other things i can rubbish typo3 on :)
16:26 litzinger for 1, pretty much every other CMS i've used, all that is required for clean urls to work is 10 lines of .htaccess
16:26 litzinger no 3rd party extension and 44 lines of php config to make clean urls work
16:27 litzinger this should be built into the core
16:27 litzinger realurl that is. and made 100 times simpler
16:28 litzinger typo developers should know this phrase well "convention over configuration"
16:32 litzinger apparently the name of the game for typo is "configuration over convention"
17:23 Denyerec litzinger - it's a large project that is the result of many people coding into it for many years
17:23 Denyerec It is a little unweidly now, but the Flow3 plan and progress indicates the "rebirth" will have all the whizzbang of modern programming ideology onboard
17:24 Denyerec You could use coolURI instead of RealURL
17:24 Denyerec that works "out of the box", but then, I set RealURL up inside of 10 seconds just earlier.
17:24 Denyerec Your problem was multiple domains in your tree
17:24 Denyerec but how many other free CMS's support that kind of thing?
17:24 Denyerec Or even a content tree?
17:30 litzinger Drupal, Wordpress, and ExpressionEngine all support multiple domains with the same codebase
17:30 litzinger Wordpress MU that is
17:31 litzinger and when each site has 200 pages, having all the sites in the same content tree is actually not helpful
17:38 pulponair wasnt there a way to access associative array via numerical keys?
18:05 Denyerec anyone else had trouble with the file list module uploading 0b files?
18:05 Denyerec It was FINE an hour ago
18:05 Denyerec now I get 0b files and errors like this in my apache log:
18:05 Denyerec convert: missing an image filename `/Users/<removed>/sozu.local/htdocs/verticalheight/typo3temp/tmb_1747e72327.jpg'.
18:24 Denyerec Anyone ?
19:44 skipjack Hello
19:44 skipjack can someone Help me
19:45 skipjack I have this Typoscript lines: http://nopaste.info/269b7ec114.html
19:46 skipjack but temp.flexform.source < temp.contentID does not work ..
19:52 skipjack I have it ;)
19:52 skipjack temp.flexform.source.stdWrap.cObject < temp.contentID
21:42 Denyerec any self-confessed TS guru's awake ?
21:42 Denyerec http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-a2c058b8b9/
21:43 Denyerec I am trying to get the counter to incremement with each Content Element on page 8
22:10 Denyerec Phlogi ?
22:51 litzinger I've created a few custom extensions/plugins, but in my list they appear like this.... http://yfrog.com/7hpicture14wp
22:51 litzinger what am I missing? it's not showing the title or description
22:52 Denyerec at a guess "most of the information in the kickstarter"
23:04 litzinger no, the information is in the kickstarter
23:04 litzinger where it says enter a description, there is a description
23:04 litzinger and title
23:16 GianiMan is typo3 a open source ?
23:18 Denyerec yeh
23:19 GianiMan Denyerec , thank you
23:38 Denyerec Phlogi_, dokma about ?
23:38 Denyerec In fact any smoothgallery users?
23:38 Denyerec The documentation example for advanced config has got me confused.
23:38 Denyerec I can't get the damn example to work
23:40 nd user yes, pro no :)
23:40 nd Just having problems with rggooglemap in fact
23:40 Denyerec Mmm
23:40 Denyerec Well, the example here:
23:40 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/rgsmoothgallery/1.5.1/view/1/5/
23:40 Denyerec For the cropping
23:41 Denyerec doesn't actually tell you how to DO it
23:41 nd anyone knows how to disable the about-screen for every POI? My map is too small to have this info...
23:41 Denyerec everything I put into the "advanced config" box just breaks the thing
23:43 nd What do you put into it?
23:44 Denyerec Image width:750c,Image height:136c
23:44 nd I'd try something like file.width = 70c
23:44 Denyerec I'll try raw ts
23:44 Denyerec tho the manual is really poor here :
23:44 nd right
23:44 nd but http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-german/2009-February/055973.html suggests TS on that part. And he's linking TSREF about imageobj on the article about cropping
23:45 Denyerec normal TS seems to break it too
23:45 Denyerec Screw it, I'll do without and ask him if I see him in IRC
23:45 Denyerec now I just need to get the content element via TS somehow
23:46 Denyerec I know how to get all the CE's on a page
23:46 Denyerec just not one CE...
23:46 nd oh... can't help there
23:47 nd On http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgsmoothgallery/smoothgallery-mit-beschnittenen-bildern.html he also talks about using everything possible with TS in there...
23:47 Denyerec Yeah I read that
23:47 Denyerec in german and english
23:47 nd ok
23:47 Denyerec but I couldn't get those configs to work as they appear there
23:48 Denyerec pasting them into the advanced config box just broke it
23:48 nd I don't think that's real config, it's just the sizes
23:48 nd but then again, I'm not sure
23:50 nd did you try width = 170c or something?
23:51 nd without the file.?
23:54 Denyerec negatory :(
23:55 nd dang...
23:57 nd good luck with it... gotta go
23:58 Denyerec gn

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