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00:17 Denyerec I've seen it mentioned a few times HardPhuck
00:17 Denyerec Looks OK, but not tried to deploy it yet
00:17 HardPhuck neither have i that's why i wanna know if it's any good :)
00:17 Denyerec hehe
01:20 Tamisoft Hi Everyone, I'm looking for a developer of typo3, someone who has an idea what the extension manager is doing, anyone here?
01:25 Tamisoft OKi, then I'll just leave a digital mark and note here for the archives. I've found a problem with Typo3 v 4.2.6, when I don't have exec for imagemagick, so I imported jb_gd_resize.
01:25 Tamisoft On the site there's a plugin smoothgalery
01:25 Tamisoft Now this combination just won't work on the FE
01:26 Tamisoft The reason is in the caching mechanism of the extension manager php
01:26 Tamisoft once I turned that off with ext -extCache =0, everything returned to life.
01:27 Tamisoft A workaround - very nastry - I have just copied the ext_localconf.php's content to the localconf.php and stabilized the link to the extension. Now it works like a charm.
01:28 Tamisoft I don't have time to investigate why the cached copy kills the makeinstance's default behaviour, but it does. Once a cached copy of working ext list is used the user defined loops won't work anymore.
01:30 Tamisoft If any of the developers are interested in reproducing the problem feel free to contact me by gtalk: tamisoft [atsign] gmail [smalldotpuctiation] com
01:30 Tamisoft See ya guys
05:28 lazarus477 So is anyone in here still awake?
05:28 lazarus477 Migration question. I have been reading some pages/docs on moving a site from one server & installation to another.
05:29 lazarus477 If I get it right it is basically 1) export then import the database, 2) copy over any custom or customised files?
06:14 titii Hello friends, is possible to use conditions in a constants?
08:32 Bluespuke morning
09:11 sorenmalling Morning
09:19 _pedda_ hi all
10:15 HardPhuck anyone using busynoggin quicksite in production?
10:34 _pedda_ Phlogi: http://www.busynoggin.com/noggins-notebook/articles/detail/typo3-spam-protecting-your-e-mail-addresses-with-a-special-twist/
10:34 _pedda_ quite interesting as well :)
10:34 Phlogi _pedda_: you found that?
10:34 _pedda_ yes
10:35 bedrunken hi there! could anyone tell me what kind of settings in windows i have to change if i want to access a local installation on my notebook from my desktop computer inside my home lan?
10:35 _pedda_ but it's something different than the rot13 encryption
10:35 _pedda_ ?
10:36 bedrunken noone? :(
10:37 HardPhuck pedda, are you using busynoggin quicksite anywhere?
10:37 _pedda_ no i don't
10:37 _pedda_ yet
10:38 _pedda_ but i will for sure :)
10:38 HardPhuck i'm thinking about it too
10:46 HardPhuck and i'm just about to set up a new site
10:46 HardPhuck maybe i'll just give it a go
11:00 Celestar morning
11:03 Celestar I have a news page. This consists of a <h1></h1> thingy for the month and then some table below it for the single entries. Currently I'm using some "page" type to edit the page. Is there some way to code/obtain an input mask which would simplify the process for the content creator?
11:03 Celestar like some input system which requires the entry of the month and then the single news entries.
11:07 Celestar can anyone imagine what I'm saying or am I talking BS? :P
11:11 Celestar (tt_news) doesn't install due to a wrong typo3 version, and I don't feel like forcing a major version jump onto the ext :P
11:16 ix-sign how can i use a GET request (index.php?id=123&ce=1) in TS? Can i use [globalVar = GPvar:ce = 1] ... [global]???
11:19 ix-sign can anyone help me please
11:25 paese okay i've seen several howtos and things on "how to put your own styles into RTE" but nothing works!
11:26 paese does someone can give me a link with an explanation that really works? i'm collection things from different pages and don't really know what i need and what i don't neet
11:29 Celestar ix-sign: isn't it just globalVar=GP?
11:30 bedrunken anyone know why my tt_news ext doesnt display my news? i create a new record on my newspage, but when i save the n ew entry there is no title displayed and the plugin in frontend doesnt display the news record either
11:31 ix-sign aahhh ok thats right :-)
11:32 ix-sign and now my second problem
11:33 Denyerec paese
11:33 Denyerec You essentially need some PageTS and a custom CSS file
11:33 paese Denyerec that's what i have
11:34 paese but i'm not completely sure how to define the page ts
11:34 Denyerec and what is in the css file?
11:34 Denyerec it can be very picky
11:34 ix-sign i wil load a other page when [globalVar=GP:ce = 1] ... loadpage .... [global] how can i use???
11:34 Denyerec no idea what you're trying to do ix-sign
11:34 Denyerec paese one mo, I'll show you mine
11:34 paese currently, only a class ".test" for testing purpose
11:35 paese thx
11:35 Denyerec http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-bf6dda4da0/
11:35 Denyerec and pay attention to the erropr
11:35 Denyerec I missed off the last closing bracket
11:36 Denyerec this needs to be in the pageTS of your root page
11:38 paese do i really need allowTags? i think they're activated by default? =)
11:39 paese i have the same code, except for the allowTags
11:39 paese and it's in the page TS of my root page
11:39 paese i lso cleared the cache
11:49 Celestar bedrunken: +1 ;)
11:50 Celestar having the same problem here :P
11:50 bedrunken yes?
11:50 bedrunken hm
11:50 bedrunken w8
11:50 Celestar no news display
11:52 paese Denyerec it works, but only when i select text which is "sub" oder "sup" 'ed, wne i have a table cell and select text in it, i cannot choose soth
11:54 Denyerec bedrunken - make sure you have included the static templates
11:54 Denyerec Else you'll see nothing
11:54 bedrunken did
11:54 bedrunken :D
11:54 Denyerec paese - try adding p.test and span.test and div.test to your test CSS file
11:54 paese k thx
11:54 Denyerec ideally call them .test1 .test2 and .test3
11:54 Denyerec just to see how the tags in the CSS can influence behaviour
12:08 Celestar is there an extension that gives me some kinda "button" on my page that redirects to the backend to edit shit? like I have a news page ...
12:09 paese yo shizzle ma nizzle, for editing yo "shit" yo needa kind of T3 builtin front-end edizzle
12:09 Ingrater hi, is it possible to always let a menu display the same part of the page tree?
12:09 paese when you're loggen in in BE you can click on a pen in the frontend at the CE to edit it directly
12:10 Celestar edizzle? :P
12:11 paese whatever, try "admPanel.enable.edit = 1" and "admPanel.module.edit.forceDisplayFieldicons = 1" in yout user ts or page ts
12:11 paese log in into the BE and view your FE
12:12 paese ;)
13:02 paese Denyerec won't work properly. this methods are for text styles, right? thn, how do i define a block format? these formats are availableso i think this would be easier
13:35 Denyerec I think you hae to define that as div.test in your stylesheet
13:35 Denyerec not sure though
13:35 paese k, let's try
13:58 Bitcrusher paese: are you trying to add your own text styles to the RTE?
13:58 paese Bitcrusher yes, it works partially. i can't get to work them in a table, everything else is working
13:59 Bitcrusher oh ok, never tried making new styles for tables :-/
13:59 paese hm.. if you go the usual way, it should be "td.class" .. but that's not working =(
14:00 paese and defining divs or p's also won't help because you don't have them in a std TD element
14:00 Bitcrusher do you know if the td. part is the "trigger" for the RTE to accept a style for tables, like span. is it for text blocks?
14:01 pmk65 paese: You might need to modify the lib.parseFunc_RTE too, as that filters out a lot of classes/styles etc. by default.
14:01 paese don't know the triggers but a german guide says tr td tbody etc works as block formats
14:02 Bitcrusher i couldent imagine that it should be much harder to add new table styles, then it is to add new text style... well, atleast i hope it isent
14:03 Bitcrusher paese: you know how to add new text styles, right?
14:04 Bitcrusher through the page TSconfig
14:04 paese yes, through classesCharacter but i don't like that solution
14:04 Bitcrusher oh, how else would you do it?
14:05 paese i thougth i define a block format becuase this applies only to the table and i don't need it anywhere else.
14:05 paese hm, right ..
14:06 Bitcrusher am i allowed to dump a 5 lines of code in here?
14:06 paese hm, dunno
14:06 paese pastie.org ^^
14:06 Bitcrusher ill go for it, dosent seem like ill interrupt anyone ;)
14:07 paese right
14:07 Bitcrusher RTE.default.contentCSS = fileadmin/templates/htmlarea.css
14:07 Bitcrusher RTE.default.ignoreMainStyleOverride = 1
14:07 Bitcrusher RTE.default.showTagFreeClasses = 1
14:07 Bitcrusher RTE.default.classesCharacter = purple,yellow,grim
14:07 Bitcrusher RTE.default.proc.allowedClasses := addToList(violet,yellow,grim)
14:07 paese have everything until the last two lines
14:07 Bitcrusher thats what i have in my page TS config to replace and add 3 new classes to the textstyle in the RTE
14:08 Bitcrusher but there is also a property called RTE.default.classesTable which i imagine would do the same for tables, that calssesCharacter does for text style
14:08 Bitcrusher http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/rtehtmlarea/1.4.4/view/4/4/ search for classesTable
14:09 paese thx Bitcrusher
14:09 Bitcrusher did you mean you dont have classesCharacter and allowedClasses ?
14:12 Bitcrusher pmk65: are you by any chance Peter Klein?
14:12 pmk65 yes.
14:13 Bitcrusher then kudos to you :) you make some amazing plugins :)
14:13 pmk65 thanks. :)
14:13 _pedda_ i love them too :)(
14:13 _pedda_ :)
14:14 pmk65 right now im playing with creating a slideshow ext. but I want to base it on the <canvas> tag, so that I can create cool transitions etc, but its not that easy as I expected. :(
14:15 Bitcrusher amazing as in i got like over half of you plugins installed :)
14:15 Bitcrusher dont know the canvas tag, is that html5?
14:15 tombama6574 http://wiki.typo3.org/ is down.
14:16 pmk65 the canvas tag is cool. it allows drawing in realtime, so you can create flash like things
14:16 paese Bitcrusher: still cannot choose a style when defining it with allowedClasses and classesCharacter when i'm in a bale but i read the link ..
14:20 Bitcrusher damn, thats cool
14:20 Bitcrusher but its js?
14:22 pmk65 yes. https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Canvas_tutorial/Basic_animations
14:23 Bitcrusher paese: classesCharacter is for textstyle, and it requires a special markup in the css your refering to
14:23 Bitcrusher so if i write RTE.default.classesCharacter = purple,yellow,grim
14:23 Bitcrusher my css is like this
14:23 Bitcrusher span.purple { color: purple; }
14:23 Bitcrusher span.yellow { color: yellow; }
14:23 Bitcrusher span.grim { color: pink; }
14:24 Bitcrusher the RTE only reads textstyles with span. in front of them
14:24 pmk65 http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/sw/torus.html
14:24 Bitcrusher as you said yourself, maybe try td. in front of yours or see if you can make text styles work first, then go on from there
14:25 Bitcrusher pmk65: that IS some cool stuff
14:26 Bitcrusher are you writing your slideshow from the scratch, or are you basing it off something?
14:26 pmk65 these here are even more impressive. http://processingjs.org/exhibition
14:27 Ingrater Hi, I've got a problem with the indexed search plugin. I've installed it and included it in my page, but it does not index any pages. If I for example view a few sites in the frontend and then go to the Indexing section in the backend still all indexing statistics are "0"
14:28 pmk65 Ingrater: Have you enabled indexing in your TS config ?
14:29 Ingrater I think not ^^, how to do so?
14:29 pmk65 config.index_enable = 1
14:30 pmk65 place it in your TS setup.
14:30 Ingrater now it works, thanks
14:30 Bitcrusher pmk65: impressive :)
14:31 Ingrater didn't know I had to active it in ts
14:31 pmk65 In TYPO3 v4.3x the BE is using ExtJS, which generates it's GUI by canvas too.
14:33 Bitcrusher i havent really seen anything from 4.3, been meaning to setup a testinstallation of the beta, but has not been on my side lately ;)
14:36 Ingrater Can I configure the indexed search plugin so that it does display the results on a extra page?
14:36 paese yes
14:37 Ingrater any idea how? ^^
14:37 paese consider macina_searchbox to provide a searchbox for indexed_Search. it links to the indexed_search page with the search string
14:40 pmk65 Ingrater: Or do it the Typoscript way ;) -> http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/cool-stuff-typoscript/ts-based-searchbox-for-indexed-search.html
14:41 paese Bitcrusher: http://paste.phlogi.net/-49f686da97/ but it's not selectable in a table anywhere :(
14:41 paese Butcrusher oops sec, forgot calssesTable =/ sry
14:42 Bitcrusher ill just give it a spin ;)
14:43 paese ok nope, that's the right pastie. classesTable and classesTD is for the "new table dialogue" but i don't want to style the whole TD, i want to stile the text in it
14:53 Celestar hm..
14:53 Celestar in tt_news how do I get the date stuff translated (months for example)
14:57 Ingrater I've got another problem with the indexed search. It seems that it does only search pages that are deeper in the page structure. But I want it to search all existing pages
15:09 _pedda_ can someone approve content elements in different tv fields having the same colpos within a tv field ?
15:10 _pedda_ can i identify them by colpos ?!
15:10 _pedda_ although i use tv
15:10 _pedda_ in my actual project it seems as if i could.. but this shouldn't work afaik
15:12 der_On hello. does someone know why I can't save a templavoila template into a certain sys-folder?
15:12 der_On it always shows me the news-folder only
15:12 _pedda_ you have to set the proper sysfolder in the rootpage
15:13 _pedda_ the general record storage page = sysfolder with your templates
15:13 Bitcrusher paese: sorry, was just on the phone, ill look at it now :)
15:13 paese Bitcrusher works now, thanks
15:13 Celestar hm.
15:13 _pedda_ @ der_On
15:14 Bitcrusher oh ok, what was wrong?
15:14 Bitcrusher did you add table. to the classes?
15:15 der_On _pedda_: where can i set that?
15:15 _pedda_ _pedda_: you have to set the proper sysfolder in the rootpage
15:16 _pedda_ edit the page properties of the rootpage
15:17 Ingrater anyone a idea on my problem?
15:17 der_On _pedda_: ah yes. thanks allot. now it works. Totally forgott about that.
15:18 _pedda_ np
15:24 pmk65 _pedda_: I wrote a small userFunc for getting the content of each TV column seperatly (I needed it for an ajax based site) With that you can access the TV columns in a way similar to the old colPos way. If you want I can send it to you?
15:25 _pedda_ i think i got it from you already
15:25 _pedda_ or was it about deleeted tv contents ?! .. dunno
15:26 _pedda_ my question is just whether it is possible.. in my project it seems to be
15:26 pmk65 http://pastie.org/557663
15:26 _pedda_ everytime i create a content for my sidebar mapped field it gets colpos = 1
15:26 _pedda_ maincontent mapped field is colpos = 0 in the db
15:26 _pedda_ but as far as i know it should be 0 anytime
15:27 _pedda_ that's why i'mwondering
15:28 pmk65 example of TS usage of the userFunc -> http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-eac6d21544/
15:29 _pedda_ you work quite a lot with the flexUtils don't you ?
15:30 pmk65 The 1st TV field for CE's, gets colPos0 then 2nd colPos1 until it reaches colPos3 (then theres no more, so it don't add colPos for the next ones)
15:31 pmk65 if you look at the DS for your page TV, then you'll see something like this for each CE column: -> <oldStyleColumnNumber type="integer">0</oldStyleColumnNumber>
15:31 pmk65 the value can go from 0-3 (and more if you extend the colPos field to accept more columns)
15:32 _pedda_ aaah i see
15:33 _pedda_ some kind of a workaround would be extend the nuber of cols
15:33 _pedda_ modify the ds according the proper colpos number
15:33 _pedda_ and content elements will be accessible without your userfunc
15:33 _pedda_ as usual without tv right ?
15:33 _pedda_ *number of cols
15:34 pmk65 yes, except that if you access it "old-style" then, it also shows the hidden/deleted elements (as TV doesn't delete elements, but just hides them)
15:36 _pedda_ i know that's the problem we talked about some months ago ^
15:36 _pedda_ ^^
15:36 pmk65 TV creates a field in the pages table called "tx_templavoila_flex". This field contains a XML of the used elements, and their sorting position. (And as it's XML, you can't access it directly from TS. Thats why I wrote the userFunc)
15:37 _pedda_ hmm right, but if i just want to show elements from one col .. no matter whether they're hidden deleeted or something else..
15:37 _pedda_ the way previously described would work
15:37 _pedda_ (i'm just trying to understand)
15:39 pmk65 yes. and if you need more than 4 colPos, then there's some extensions in TER that extends that number.
15:40 _pedda_ and how is it @ HardPhuck
15:40 _pedda_ ?
15:40 _pedda_ you got it from scratch ?
15:40 HardPhuck 80% usefull
15:41 _pedda_ what about the 20% ?
15:41 HardPhuck some unneeded sutf
15:41 _pedda_ ah ok
15:41 HardPhuck stuff
15:41 _pedda_ what's that special about it ?
15:41 _pedda_ just the already implemented tv stuff ?
15:41 HardPhuck preconfigured layouts and FCEs
15:41 _pedda_ ah ok
15:41 _pedda_ cool
15:41 HardPhuck yea
15:41 HardPhuck and a bit of BE styling
15:41 _pedda_ kk
15:42 Ingrater I've got a problem with the indexed search. It seems that it does only search pages that are deeper in the page structure. But I want it to search all existing pages
15:42 HardPhuck pretty useful for rapid development which i am a fan of
15:42 pmk65 Ingrater: Check the manual. There's a setting for setting the root pid.
15:42 _pedda_ cool need to test that one as well
15:43 rosieres Hi, does anybody know whats wrong with http://wiki.typo3.org seems to be down . . .?!!!
15:45 pmk65 I once started on a extension for quickstarting new sites, but I never got around to releasing it. (It still miss a part where you should be able to select between various preconfig TV/FCE setups)
15:45 pmk65 But it does generate the page structure, PageTS, typoscript , users etc.
15:45 pmk65 http://www.sharemation.com/typo3test/
15:46 pmk65 The ext: T3X_pmksitekickstarter-0_0_0-z-200801052204.t3x
15:46 pmk65 http://www.sharemation.com/typo3test/T3X_pmksitekickstarter-0_0_0-z-200801052204.t3x
15:46 HardPhuck i have my own preconfigured stuff as well
15:46 HardPhuck not an extension but a preconfigured installation with common options
15:47 HardPhuck i wanted to make an extension as well but i'm too lazy to do it:)
15:48 pmk65 mine is a bit more advanced than just preconfiguration. It also creates BE users, filemounts, domain records etc, and a lot of other stuff.
15:48 pmk65 You can use it on a existing site without problems, as it just creates a substructure in the pagetree.
15:49 litzinger i'm using templavoila, and in a template I have an image within a div. I'd like to be able to make it so the user can add a new image to that div, but if they don't it'll display the default image.
15:49 litzinger <div class="banner_img"><img src="/fileadmin/images/banner_small.png" alt="" /></div>
15:50 rosieres @litzinger ... and where is the problem ?
15:50 litzinger banner_img is mapped to allow an image to be uploaded and placed within it, but it wipes out the default <img> tag
15:50 litzinger the problem is i cant keep the default image if the user doesn't pick a new image. templavoila just wipes out the entire contents of banner_img
15:50 litzinger is there an advanced mapping rule to tell it not to remove the contents unless new contents have been defined??
15:51 pmk65 litzinger: Do it by TS
15:51 rosieres yep
15:51 pmk65 inside the DS structure of your TV themplate there's an IMAGE object. If you add you default image to that, then it will work
15:52 litzinger thats really obscure
15:52 litzinger but i'll try
15:53 Ingrater @pmk65 thanks now it works
15:53 rosieres best you take tx_kbtvcontslide_pi1
15:53 rosieres the top image is always passed
15:54 nd_ Does anyone have an idea how to set an conditional TS to adjust the p-class according to content language?
15:54 litzinger k, what am i doing wrong here? http://pastie.org/557691
15:55 HardPhuck _pedda_: there is one downside, you have to use the default html markup
15:55 HardPhuck that author wrote
15:55 _pedda_ ?!
15:55 _pedda_ so .. no remapping possible ?
15:55 HardPhuck it is, but it's a lot of work :)
15:55 _pedda_ or adapting the layout of a different webdesigner
15:55 HardPhuck because there is 20+ template files in
15:55 pmk65 litzinger: 10.file.value = <img src="/fileadmin/images/banner_small.png" alt="" />
15:56 pmk65 that's wrong
15:56 pmk65 it should be 10.file = /fileadmin/images/banner_small.png
15:58 rosieres Does now anybody know whats wrong with wiki.typo3.org ?
15:58 rosieres or when it will be available again ?
16:02 litzinger thanks pmk65
16:06 _pedda_ does someone use spam protection on tt_address?
16:06 _pedda_ found this one at the bottom: http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//11007/?sword_list[]=spamprotect
16:06 _pedda_ but doesn't work for me
16:06 _pedda_ it's quite old too.. (2004)
16:09 pmk65 rosieres: there's no info about it being down in the typo3.teams.typo3org
16:10 pmk65 so you should write a bugreport on bugs.typo3.org
16:13 pmk65 _pedda_: That will work on all emails links generated by the "typolink" function, but not on those where it's written "manually"
16:13 _pedda_ hmpf
16:14 pmk65 so if you are using some ext for displaying the tt_address records, you need to modify that (or contact the author)
16:14 _pedda_ i don't use one
16:15 pmk65 how do you display the tt_address record then?
16:15 _pedda_ lib.vcard = RECORDS
16:15 _pedda_ hmm i should put the plugin there
16:15 _pedda_ instead of records
16:15 pmk65 show me the entire code
16:15 _pedda_ wait i will try this on my own.. and show you afterwards :)
16:31 rosieres pmk65: can you open it ?! ... I get an Apache 404
16:33 pmk65 same here. and none of the subpages works either.
16:34 rosieres pmk65: wiered
16:46 derchiller as i see the default search plugin for typo finds the results i search for everywhere i search but the links aims to the topic of my navigation topics
16:46 derchiller how can i change this?
16:46 derchiller sry, little stoned
16:47 derchiller hm
16:47 derchiller i want the link to target an anchor and a search which results me the topics of the content i wrote
16:50 pmk65 derchiller: Use Indexed Search. Then you can wrap the parts you want indexed, in a custom comment/tag
16:51 derchiller does not sounds easy to me
16:52 pmk65 http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/doc_indexed_search/4.2.1/view/1/6/
16:53 derchiller thx
16:58 derchiller do i have more to do than caching the pages and using the index flag of the search?
16:59 rosieres derchiller: read the documentation ... start configuring and if then something fails ask ;-)
16:59 derchiller hard to read
16:59 derchiller just checked i have to read more than the one page
17:00 rosieres derchiller: typo3 is no kindergarten ;-)
17:01 derchiller yes, i know. fighted one week with typo till i found out how i can create my own design with typoscript
17:02 lazyfrosch derchiller: you know templavoila?
17:03 ckoehler derchiller: it's TYPO3 technically
17:04 ckoehler not typo3
17:04 rosieres derchiller: lazyfrosch is right .... i would start using it immediately . . .
17:04 ckoehler and very much not typo
17:04 ckoehler don't care about the case, but hearing it called typo strikes me funny
17:04 lazyfrosch rosieres: :-)
17:04 derchiller advantages?
17:05 lazyfrosch derchiller: of templavoila? full automatic template system
17:05 lazyfrosch you upload your template as html and start a wizard
17:05 lazyfrosch many config options and possiblities
17:05 derchiller so why are u sitting here?
17:06 lazyfrosch derchiller: what do you mean? ^^
17:06 derchiller thats the support channel for typo but u suggest me using another cms
17:07 rosieres OMG
17:07 lazyfrosch derchiller: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/templavoila/1.3.7/view/1/1/
17:07 lazyfrosch derchiller: it is an extension for typo...
17:07 derchiller aaahaaa
17:08 derchiller thx xD
17:08 derchiller i'll try it
17:08 lazyfrosch you'll better do so :-)
17:11 Bluespuke have a noice weekend @ all
17:11 litzinger why does it seem like TYPO3 experts take pride in telling people that TYPO3 isn't 'kindergarden' or 'be prepared to spend a month learning it because it's needlessly overly complex' (the official site says this). To me, that is the first sign to stay away from a piece of software.
17:13 derchiller not for me
17:14 rosieres litzinger: it's just enterprise CMS which is extremely flexible ... and terefore you have to know a lot about it ..... it's not trivial .... trivial cms are made for trivial sites .... this one is scalable from tinysite till monster-cluster environments
17:14 litzinger that doesn't scare you away? that it takes a month to learn? I've never seen a piece of software advertised that way. it just says "our shit is too complex", which to me means it isn't built very well
17:15 lazyfrosch litzinger: if someone want to start with typo he should start to read about it, it is not meant to be a website-in-15-minutes cms
17:15 derchiller i know its advantages
17:16 _pedda_ hmm pmk is there something like CODE for tt_address ?
17:16 derchiller and its a challenge to learn it
17:16 rosieres _pedda_: what do you mean ?
17:16 _pedda_ i don't get why i can specify the unique wraps of certain fields
17:17 _pedda_ and if i use it within a COA they don't get used
17:18 _pedda_ only the markup of the template is respected in fe
17:18 rosieres _pedda_: show a snip http://pastie.org/
17:18 _pedda_ markup of tt_address templatefile
17:18 litzinger so far my experience is it's a pain in the ass to maintain a site. i didnt choose typo, my client did for their client. there are template html files on the filesystem, templavoila has content in the database/xml files to manage the relationships between content nodes and template files, and if you change a template BOOM the mappings can break. Then there is the Template config script that can go on a page and descend down the tree... all those things
17:18 _pedda_ http://pastie.org/557792
17:19 ckoehler re templavoila
17:19 _pedda_ how can i tell my setup to take the templates.footer specified in another ext template within my sysfolder ?!
17:19 rosieres litzinger: then inform your clints that your knowledge is not high enough to do developnetn within typo3
17:19 ckoehler checkout http://templavoila.busynoggin.com
17:20 litzinger rosieres: ha, i wish I could say that
17:20 litzinger i just made a huge site in it, and learned a lot
17:20 litzinger and i wish i can unlearn it
17:21 _pedda_ lol
17:21 rosieres litzinger: it took me nearly a year of intensive learning to be fit
17:21 _pedda_ me too
17:21 _pedda_ let'S say .. to manage the main tasks
17:21 litzinger thats the problem.... no piece of software should be that complicated. none. I dont care if it's enterprise or not
17:22 rosieres litzinger: nobody cares ... what you care about ... i know about the power of this system and i love it
17:23 rosieres therefore this is a support forum not a discussionthread about the right to exist
17:24 litzinger i'm not saying it doesn't have the right to exist. i'm just wondering why everyone uses it.
17:24 _pedda_ because no other system offers that power of control like typo3
17:24 _pedda_ quite easy
17:25 rosieres _pedda_: i don't see what your goal is about yout tt_adress thing
17:55 derchiller importing templavoila makes more trouble i think it can avoid
18:10 dreier-schmiede hiho, someone how can help me with the indexed_search
18:12 dreier-schmiede i have index_phash: 423, index_words: 85083, index_rel: 471719, index_grlist: 174, index_section: 472, index_fulltext: 423
18:12 dreier-schmiede there are 89 page and 155 pdf files
18:12 dreier-schmiede and the search takes sometimes more then a minute
18:13 dreier-schmiede i read some pots about but there talking about big sites and i think 89 page does not fit in this cat
18:15 nd_ How can I get to the line xx which the object browser says has an error? My TS is spread over so many small templates..
18:15 _pedda_ nd_ in template analyzer you can check the checkbox for showing line numbers
18:16 _pedda_ you just have to browse to the proper template then
18:16 nd_ awesome, thanks
18:16 dreier-schmiede some help for me?
18:21 HardPhuck is there a way to un-wrap the submit button in default mailform
18:23 _pedda_ cu all
18:23 HardPhuck cya
19:05 Golgata hi :) someone got a clue? this >> http://www.pastie.org/557903 << always gives back both elements... i dont get why. is probably easy, but i think typo-IFs are strange...
19:22 dosipov @Golgata: try lowercase "if"
19:23 Golgata noez! ^^
19:23 Golgata works
19:24 Golgata thanks
19:24 Golgata !
19:24 dosipov no problem
19:24 Golgata does something like
19:24 Golgata 3.value = <div class="css_picbox" width="{$obj.imagewidth}"> | </div>
19:24 Golgata work?
19:26 dosipov are you trying to wrap something?
19:26 dosipov like
19:27 Golgata yes...
19:27 dosipov 3.value = something
19:27 dosipov 3.wrap = <div class="css_picbox" width="{$obj.imagewidth}"> | </div>
19:27 Golgata i just look for things like{$obj.imagewidth}
19:27 Golgata that
19:27 Golgata the wrap works, im just looking for a possibility to insert the imagewidth therer
19:27 Golgata -r
19:29 Golgata but {$obj.imagewidth} doesnt work
19:30 dosipov oh...
19:30 dosipov not sure about that
19:54 Golgata nobody else got a clue?
21:03 styler I am trying to restrict what is allowed on certain page content to assure static branding across multiple user pages and so I am trying to deny tags that are nested inside header tags, but keep the content. Does anyone have suggestions on how to do this? You cant apply allowTags and denyTags to tags inside entryHTMLparser_db.. if there is a way I haven't found it.
21:07 _pedda_ the first thing is to exclude brte buttons from the rtehtmlarea
21:08 _pedda_ just disable them in the ext manager
21:08 _pedda_ or via ts config
21:08 styler they can be outside of <h?> tags though.. so i cant really do just that I have to typoscript it or write a userFunc
21:17 styler but i have disabled alot of them
21:18 styler whether or not a tag is allowed depends on if it is nested inside a <h1> tag or not, if it is inside, strip the tag.. else its ok
21:52 lazarus477 Since for ones everyone is up at the same hour I would like to ask the following.
21:53 lazarus477 To move/migrate a site from one server & installation over to another, is it enough to simply copy the database and customized files?
21:58 dosipov @lazarus: you can use the Typo3 import/export feature
21:58 dosipov it will save the page tree and all records (if you chose) to a t3d file
21:58 dosipov which you can then import on another installation
22:02 lazarus477 dosipov: Smooch! I read about importing t3d files in the docs but never found out how to export to one, any hints?
22:02 dosipov right click on a page you want to export
22:03 dosipov in the click menu select more options
22:03 lazarus477 Could I right click the root page of a page tree?
22:03 dosipov from there export to t3d
22:03 dosipov yes, you can start at the root
22:03 lazarus477 Thanks. Will try that.

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