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00:42 ries Denyerec: ??
01:34 ries fuchur: hehehehe...
01:34 ries for me specially the MySQL portion...
01:35 fuchur why do mysql devs think they don't need readable error messages?
01:35 fuchur You have an error bla bla bla near 'ORDER BY von'
01:35 fuchur you know what
01:36 fuchur the where-statement was: u.id = b.id && u.name =
01:36 fuchur there is an value missing :D but you can't read this from the error message
06:02 Bitcrusher morning guys :)
06:11 Bitcrusher how do you resolve an url through typoscript/php? i.e. i want the url for id=12 ?
06:32 Bitcrusher nevermind, figured it out
07:29 lazarus477 Can someone recomend good ways or tools for doing prototyping? Should I use Adobe Fireworks, image editing software, specialized prototyping apps or code something up with like xhtml and bits and peices of video, ajax and video?
07:29 lazarus477 What is the way to go?
07:43 gerards wow lazarus477 what a broad question. :) and I don't think this is the right channel either... i think fireworks is fine for showing your clients what the final website should look like.
07:55 lazarus477 I agree on fireworks being good for a demonstration.
07:56 lazarus477 Is typo3 any good for doing prototyping and wireframing?
07:59 lazarus477 Or rather I should ask. Can one do prototyping in typo3 or would this best be done using a better suited tool since after all typo3 is ment as a CMS for the end result? :-)
09:13 _pedda_ hi all
09:21 m4rtijn hi all
09:22 m4rtijn oops... alreadz had that :p
09:23 _pedda_ lol
09:23 m4rtijn does somebody know the url to changes from 4.2.7 to 4.2.8
09:23 m4rtijn somehow that link is never to be found on the typo3 sitre
09:23 _pedda_ you mean changelog ?
09:23 m4rtijn yeah
09:23 _pedda_ just a sec
09:24 m4rtijn thanks
09:26 _pedda_ http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:cA1Hjpr_6bgJ:wiki.typo3.org/TYPO3%25204.2.8%26handheld%3Dyes+typo3+changelog+4.2.8+wiki&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=de&lr=lang_en&client=firefox-a
09:26 _pedda_ or try this one ;)
09:26 _pedda_ http://tinyurl.com/ldg35r
09:27 _pedda_ you have to use the cached results by google because the wiki is still down
09:27 m4rtijn thanks a lot.. ah..
09:28 m4rtijn okay
09:28 m4rtijn so normally this would be in the wiki.. I dont understand why they do not post it on the typo3 site
09:29 _pedda_ hmm they
09:29 _pedda_ do
09:29 _pedda_ everytime the main changes are mentioned in a news, but there is always a hint to see the full changelog on the wiki
09:42 m4rtijn cool, a create ENABLE_ button
09:42 m4rtijn hehe
09:43 _pedda_ yes but first i had to search for it half an hour
09:43 _pedda_ it's within user settings
09:43 m4rtijn lol
09:44 m4rtijn ah, they're finally doing some opera browser support
09:44 m4rtijn yay!!
09:45 _pedda_ i'm waitin for 4.3
09:45 _pedda_ :-/
09:45 m4rtijn why?
09:45 _pedda_ new is
09:45 _pedda_ indexed search
09:45 m4rtijn hmm
09:46 _pedda_ i sold a feature to a customer
09:46 _pedda_ which is not possible with is of 4.2.x
09:46 m4rtijn indexed search works fine in 4.2.x
09:46 m4rtijn afaik
09:46 m4rtijn which feature?
09:46 _pedda_ depends on your requirements
09:46 _pedda_ enabling the search in different areas
09:46 m4rtijn so?
09:46 _pedda_ with the possibility to select via selectbox where to search in
09:46 m4rtijn aha
09:46 m4rtijn hehe
09:47 _pedda_ this feature is supported somehow#
09:47 m4rtijn well... you could use different templates for that
09:47 m4rtijn and use - template picker -
09:47 _pedda_ but it depends ion the treelevel where your content is located
09:48 _pedda_ are you into indexed search ?
09:48 m4rtijn well "into" I used it yes
09:48 _pedda_ i'm still not sure whether i did everything right
09:49 m4rtijn hmm.. there isnt much you can do wrong I think
09:49 _pedda_ what about indexing configuration keeping othe indexing configurations together + setting the freeindexuid properly ? ;)
09:50 _pedda_ i gave up at some point and told the customer that he has to wait for 4.3
09:50 _pedda_ shame on me
09:50 _pedda_ :-(
09:51 m4rtijn do you have a lot of templates on that site?
09:52 m4rtijn and.. TV ?
09:52 _pedda_ no
09:52 _pedda_ tv yes
09:52 m4rtijn ah.. hehe
09:52 _pedda_ ?
09:52 m4rtijn never used TV
09:52 _pedda_ tv has nothing to do with my problem on that project
09:53 _pedda_ according tv.. probably you should try it some day
09:53 m4rtijn if you offered that feature.. I would just create different templates.. with <-- start search --> blabla <end> .. on different places
09:53 _pedda_ starting with this quicksite package
09:53 _pedda_ http://templavoila.busynoggin.com/
10:10 Celestar hail
11:20 nzgr Goodmorning, evening, midday or whatever applies in your timezone
11:21 nzgr Has anybody got any info on version 4.3 - It should have been out earlier this month, but nothing seems to happen?
11:29 dec___ im mapping a page in templavoila which i just want to have static content
11:29 dec___ teh content i want is in the template already, so im just mapping the body element as root
11:29 dec___ but everything gets replaced by whitespace...
11:29 dec___ ive tried both inner and outer tags, what am i doing wrong
11:34 _pedda_ don't map it
11:34 dec___ not even the root?
11:35 dec___ tried that, still whitespace
11:35 dec___ ive deleted the root lol
11:35 dec___ can't add new items now :\
11:43 fuchur hi everyone
11:44 fuchur ^^
11:51 lazarus477 Hey folks.
11:52 Celestar hehe
11:52 lazarus477 To anyone in need of a GPL/OpenSource prototyping tool, here is something I just dug up and started to try out: http://www.evolus.vn/Pencil/Home.html
11:53 lazarus477 I do not yet know if it makes things interactive for demonstration and user testing, trying that now.
11:54 Celestar erm is realurl normally configured in the php file or can it be done via typoscript?
12:00 dec_ so how would i map a static template ..
12:00 dec_ disconnected -__-
12:01 Celestar hm .. what's the best way to "debug" my realurl config? checking the rewriteengine?
12:21 Celestar I have this realurl config: http://pastebin.com/m19447a9b
12:21 _pedda_ and what is your problem ?
12:21 Celestar sec pasting shit :P
12:22 Celestar this is the output of the rewrite engine: http://pastebin.com/m1aff2983
12:22 Celestar And this is the resulting typo3 error: Reason: "en/clients.html" could not be found, closest page matching is en/
12:22 Celestar where did I screw this configuration?
12:22 _pedda_ best thing to debug your reaulurl setup is to read this:
12:22 _pedda_ http://dmitry-dulepov.com/article/realurl-made-easy-part-1.html
12:23 Celestar I've read that document ;)
12:23 _pedda_ and the second part mentioned beyond
12:23 _pedda_ ah ok
12:23 _pedda_ well
12:23 _pedda_ how does your htaccess look like ?
12:23 Celestar sec
12:24 Celestar what do I need the .htaccess thingy for? I've set the rewrite stuff in the apache2 config
12:24 Celestar sec extracting the stuff
12:26 Celestar http://pastebin.com/m37bb3578
12:28 Celestar the rewrite DOES apparently happen, at least according to the rewrite logs
12:29 Celestar IF I'm setting the 'pagePath' thing to array() it works fine
12:29 _pedda_ do you have a rewritebase set ?
12:30 Celestar but I only get $PAGEID.html as filenames
12:30 _pedda_ RewriteBase /
12:30 Celestar no RewriteBase is set
12:32 Celestar I'm kinda lost where things go haywire
12:56 [fuchur] hu
13:34 Celestar does this message tell anyone else anything when using realurl?
13:34 Celestar Reason: "en/partners.html" could not be found, closest page matching is en/
14:09 Bluespuke i have a custon renderObj with images (XML). the images are resized with styles.content.imgtext.maxW. is it possible to also add the link to the original/full sized image?
14:11 _pedda_ 50 = TEXT
14:11 _pedda_ 50.data = TSFE:lastImageInfo|3
14:11 _pedda_ 50.wrap = Bild + Pfad =&nbsp;|<br />
14:11 _pedda_ will return the path to riiginal file
14:11 _pedda_ *original
14:12 Celestar gnaaah
14:12 Celestar realurl 2 - celestar 0
14:12 _pedda_ ?
14:12 Celestar still the same problem. re-reading the manual
14:16 pmk65 The Wiki is up and running again..
14:16 Celestar cool :D
14:16 Celestar does it solve my realurl problem? ;)
14:17 pmk65 I doubt that. ;)
14:17 Celestar damn :P
14:18 pmk65 Bluespuke: If your object is an IMG_RESOURCE, then you should use "lastImgResourceInfo" to access the original image.
14:19 pmk65 Celestar: It sounds like a rewrite error, but that's a part I know very little about, so I can't help you.
14:20 Celestar pmk65: the funny thing is the rewrite (from the logs) seems to happen correctly
14:20 Celestar rewrite 'en/services/overview.html' -> '/index.php'
14:21 pmk65 http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Realurl#I_get_URL.27s_with_numbers_instead_of_names_.28http:.2F.2Fwww.mydomain.tld.2F123.2F345.2F.29
14:21 Bluespuke _pedda_: this only gives me the last image as thumbnail :s
14:21 pmk65 dunno if that helps.
14:21 Celestar looking
14:23 pmk65 Bluespuke: It returns the last image used, so it need to be placed AFTER the operations on the IMAGe object. -> http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/cool-stuff-typoscript/fun-with-tsfe-part-1-getting-additional-image-imformation.html
14:24 Celestar pmk65: but the stuff I'm dealing with is just not the "ID" problem
14:24 Celestar I get the names correctly with the 'pagePath' stuff
14:25 Celestar it just fails
14:26 pmk65 http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Realurl/testing
14:26 pmk65 that page contains some info on the modrewrite setup
14:28 Celestar I'll read through it, thanks a bunch
14:29 Bluespuke ok, i'm almost there
14:30 pmk65 Bluespuke: Example of using it with an IMG_RESOURCE -> http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/cool-stuff-typoscript/transparente-pngs-in-ie56-ohne-js.html#c511
14:30 Bluespuke one more question: if i wrap something like 'wrap=abc | def' typoscript deletes the whitespaces... how can i preserve them
14:31 Bluespuke for html i simply did 'wrap=abc&nbsp;|&nbsp;def' but for xml this sin't possible i guess
14:32 pmk65 you can either use wrap with () instead of =, or use the "noTrimWrap" property of stdWrap.
14:33 pmk65 http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-9009b7b2c4/
14:34 Bluespuke noTrimWrap works fine for me, thanks
14:35 pmk65 http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TSref/stdWrap#noTrimWrap
15:17 Bluespuke ok, just one more hint and the project is done: is there a documentation for TSFE:lastImageInfo ?
15:17 Bluespuke i would like to have the dimensions of the original file
15:17 Bluespuke like lastImageInfo|origFile|1
15:54 gehdan hi, what rights do need to give to a user/group to enable cut/paste and/or delete of page content for that user/group?
16:13 Denyerec hey void
16:16 mquintus ahoy all
16:16 Denyerec ahoy ahoy!
16:30 litzinger anyone know why none of my images show up in tt_news LIST view?
16:30 litzinger but do on the SINGLE view?
16:30 litzinger is there a path I need to set?
16:31 dosipov @litzinger: Do you have the image marker in the list template? Same as in detail template?
16:31 litzinger was just about to check that
16:32 litzinger i do
16:33 litzinger is it ###FILE_LINK### or ###NEWS_IMAGE###
16:41 litzinger yeah, ###NEWS_IMAGE### works on SINGLE view, but not LATEST or LIST, and and the token is in all areas.
16:43 dosipov do you have any extensions installed that change the handling of images, like dam_ttnews
16:43 litzinger nope
16:43 mquintus check you typoscript
16:43 mquintus your*
16:43 litzinger for what?
16:43 mquintus eg. imagewrap
16:44 mquintus with objectbrowser
16:45 litzinger i dont have that defined. in the setup.txt file there is a imageWrapIfAny
16:46 mquintus use objectBrowser to find out, if eg. plugin.tt_news.displayList.imageCount is set to 0
16:46 litzinger i dont knwo what objectBrowser is
16:46 mquintus oO
16:47 mquintus in typo3, select "template"
16:47 litzinger yea
16:47 mquintus then there is a dropdown
16:47 litzinger k
16:47 mquintus select typoscript objectBrowser
16:47 litzinger selected
16:48 mquintus browse the typoscript config! :)
16:49 litzinger this is all i have defined for my tt_news setup
16:49 litzinger plugin.tt_news.displayLatest.date_stdWrap.strftime = %m/%d/%Y
16:49 litzinger plugin.tt_news.displayList.date_stdWrap.strftime = %m/%d/%Y
16:49 litzinger plugin.tt_news.displaySingle.date_stdWrap.strftime = %m/%d/%Y
16:49 litzinger plugin.tt_news.templateFile = fileadmin/templates/layouts/tt_news_v2_template.tmpl
16:49 litzinger plugin.tt_news.noPageBrowser = 1
16:49 litzinger plugin.tt_news.latestWithPagebrowser = 1
16:49 litzinger plugin.tt_news {
16:49 litzinger _LOCAL_LANG.default.pi_list_browseresults_displays =
16:49 mquintus you can set the values by clicking on them!
16:49 litzinger _LOCAL_LANG.default.pi_list_browseresults_displays_advanced =
16:49 litzinger _LOCAL_LANG.default.pi_list_browseresults_prev = Prev
16:49 litzinger _LOCAL_LANG.default.pi_list_browseresults_next = Next
16:49 litzinger pageBrowser {
16:49 litzinger maxPages = 10
16:49 litzinger showResultCount = 1
16:49 litzinger showFirstLast = 1
16:49 litzinger }
16:49 litzinger limit = 10
16:49 litzinger latestLimit = 3
16:49 litzinger }
16:49 mquintus why do you paste that?
16:53 litzinger b/c that is what i have setup for tt_news, obviously i'm doing nothing with image paths. so what do i define to set the image paths?
16:54 litzinger i cant set a value in the object browser if i don't know what to set
17:05 litzinger so no one knows why in LIST and LATEST views my image HTML looks like this? <img height="" width="" border="0" title="" alt="" src="/"/>
17:05 litzinger but in SINGLE view the image renders with the proper src
17:20 litzinger someone else had the same issue... in 2005
17:20 litzinger http://typo3.toaster-schwerin.de/typo3_english/2005_04/msg00010.html
17:26 dosipov did the response help?
17:27 dosipov "check your imagemagick installation. does the graphic tests in the installtool work?"
17:28 lazarus477 Has anyone here got any GPL lisenced website prototyping tools to sugest?
17:28 lazarus477 I tried PencilProject but it does not appear to support links or actions leading to sub pages.
17:29 lazarus477 I also considered doing a wireframe prototype by coding together a basic set of pages but hat can backfire...
17:32 litzinger dosipov, i can't look at the install tool b/c i dont hvae access on the server to enable it. but i think that is the problem b/c no thumbnails are being generated
18:28 _pedda_ cu all
18:32 m4rtijn cu _pedda_
18:41 litzinger anyone know how i can add the <small> tag to the RTE tool bar?
18:42 litzinger possibly to the drop down where Paragraph, Header 1, Header 2 etc are located?
19:34 Bluespuke hmmm, i got a very strange bug :S
19:35 Bluespuke a clean typo3 installation refuses to change admin account and creating new accounts, the right screen stay blank after loading :(
19:50 litzinger i'm trying to follow this tutorial and it simply isn't working... http://www.acqal.com/blog/a/article/add-custom-css-classes-to-the-typo3-rte/
19:50 litzinger has anyone tried this?
20:02 Georges_Abitbol the default typo3 sitemap plugin use nav_title. How could I telle it ti use title instead ?
20:07 pmk65 litzinger: Htmlarea is a pain to configure. You need to add stuff to both css files, TSConfig etc. (And sometimes you also need to modify lib.parseFunc_RTE too)
20:08 pmk65 Georges_Abitbol: Are you using a plugin for generating sitemap?
20:09 pmk65 litzinger: Try TinyMCE RTE. It's so much easier to configure ;)
20:20 litzinger how do i make it the default?
20:20 litzinger tinymce that is
20:35 pmk65 uninstall htmlarea, and then install tinymce rte.
20:35 pmk65 There's a lot of TinyMCE implementations at TER, but this one is the best.. http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/tinymce_rte/current/
23:44 Phlogi_ m4rtijn: hey

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