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11:50 mr_daniel what is the default text editor in typo3 for the backend?
11:50 mr_daniel is it htmlArea RTE or 'Editor with syntax hihglighting'/t3editor ?
11:58 Spacecube hi there
12:03 Spacecube hi NiFkE
12:04 NiFkE hm could somebody help me. I have a typo3 website ( www.bovekerke.com ) and if I want to create an external link like to www.torhout.be or any other site I get a link like this: http://www.bovekerke.com/typo3/http://www.torhout.be or http://www.bovekerke.com/typo3/www.torhout.be
12:04 NiFkE llo Spacecube
12:07 NiFkE it's very annoying but can't find out why I have such URLs
12:07 Spacecube should that open in a new window?
12:08 Spacecube and how do u create that ext. link?
12:09 Spacecube hi skurfuerst
12:10 NiFkE should open in a new window
12:10 NiFkE I just go to that text editor
12:10 Spacecube NiFkE: probably you are using FireFox 3.0.11 and RTE
12:10 Spacecube ??
12:10 NiFkE select my text and click on the symbol to create a link
12:10 NiFkE well i'm having 3.5 now
12:11 NiFkE and htmlArea RTE yes
12:11 NiFkE ...
12:11 Spacecube since FF 3.0.11 there is an error with RTE and it will put this http://xxxx.xx/typo3.....
12:11 Spacecube try IE or Safari and check if it happens too
12:13 NiFkE k works with IE8
12:13 NiFkE omfg
12:13 NiFkE that's gay :s
12:13 NiFkE and are they going to fix that at typo3 ?
12:13 NiFkE because with FF3.5 it's the same issue
12:14 Spacecube what t3 version are u using?
12:14 NiFkE 4.2.6
12:14 Spacecube r u using tv and whats the tv version?
12:15 Spacecube hi mr_daniel
12:15 NiFkE TYPO3 skin t3skin 4.2.0
12:15 NiFkE TemplaVoila! templavoila 1.3.7
12:15 NiFkE Static Info Tables static_info_tables 2.1.0
12:15 NiFkE CSS styled content css_styled_content 0.4.0
12:15 NiFkE Versioning Management version 1.2.0
12:15 NiFkE and
12:15 NiFkE htmlArea RTE rtehtmlarea 1.7.9
12:16 Spacecube just a sec
12:18 Spacecube well i've got no problems with FF
12:18 NiFkE ...
12:19 NiFkE vista x64 business N english with dutch FF 3.5 :p
12:19 Spacecube Nifke: the only difference i've got between your versions is Static Info Tables...i've got version 2.1.1 there
12:19 Spacecube but i doupt that this is the problem
12:19 NiFkE let me see
12:20 voidus that's a known issue and it's fixed in SVN already
12:24 Spacecube voidus: why does it work for me and not for nifke?? we both have the same versions
12:24 voidus do you have latest typo3 source from trunk?
12:24 Spacecube i do
12:24 Spacecube :)
12:24 mr_daniel I am just able to find rtehtmlarea 1.4.4 in the extensiond repository
12:24 mr_daniel http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/rtehtmlarea/current/
12:25 mr_daniel and not version 1.7.9 as you said NiFkE
12:25 mr_daniel I am using Typo3 4.2.6
12:25 voidus Spacecube: did you remove temporary *.js files in the rtehtmlarea folder?
12:25 mr_daniel and my problem is that the rtehtmlarea is not wokring/loading
12:25 voidus mr_daniel: use that one which is bundled in the typo3 core
12:25 mr_daniel when trying to edit text, it just says: The editor is being loaded. Please wait...
12:26 Spacecube voidus: no....i don't have that issue....my installations works very well.....nifke has the problem
12:26 mr_daniel I dont know what the 'typo3 core' is
12:26 NiFkE yes I have a problem now
12:26 NiFkE help
12:26 mr_daniel some weeks ago my typo3 has been updated
12:26 mr_daniel from version ?.?.? to version 4.2.6
12:26 NiFkE I wanted to update euhm that static info tables
12:26 NiFkE and now
12:26 NiFkE www.bovekerke.com is blanck
12:27 NiFkE got an error
12:27 NiFkE Error: The directory "/var/www/vhosts/bovekerke.com/httpdocs/typo3conf/ext/static_info_tables/doc/" could not be created...
12:27 mr_daniel so I am not sure if the 'typo3 core thing' is a solution to my problem
12:27 NiFkE and it's now blanck
12:27 NiFkE help
12:27 NiFkE :o
12:27 Spacecube well.....you sure are clever enough and made a backup of your installation before updating??
12:27 NiFkE nope i'm not clever :p
12:28 voidus NiFkE: sounds like problem with file system permissions
12:28 NiFkE yes changed the /ext/static_info_tables to 777
12:28 NiFkE but that dir is empty on the ftp
12:28 Spacecube that's what i said too
12:28 NiFkE what should I do :o
12:28 NiFkE can I upload something to that dir that it works? :p
12:28 voidus mr_daniel: rtehtmlarea is a system extension and stay in the /typo3/sysext/rtehtmlarea/, you have no need to install it from TER
12:29 NiFkE help freaking out
12:29 mr_daniel ok, so rtehtmlarea seems to be an ESSENTAIL part in every typo3 installation
12:29 mr_daniel I have typo3 version 4.2.6, and rtehtmlarea version 1.4.4
12:30 Spacecube i bet it is just not possible that your whole directory was deleted just because that Info_table install failed.....
12:30 mr_daniel is this a normal or good configration?
12:30 mr_daniel does the person who updated the typo3 installation made something wrong?
12:30 NiFkE well everything in typo3conf/ext/static_info_tables/ is empty
12:30 mr_daniel should the rtehtmlarea version be 1.7.9 when I use typo3 version 4.2.6 ?
12:36 voidus Spacecube: it's possible
12:36 Denyerec Hey voidus
12:36 voidus hey Denyerec
12:36 Denyerec I wonder if I can get an honest opinion on the state of jQuery and Mootools.
12:37 Denyerec If you ask about one in the other's IRC channel, you are quickly annihilated.
12:37 Spacecube voidus: what's possible??
12:37 voidus Spacecube: emptying a folder because of failed re-installation
12:38 voidus Denyerec: I do not have any opinion on Mootools cause I never used it. I use jQuery and ExtJS
12:38 Spacecube voidus: okay...that's bad....
12:38 Denyerec Yes I need to figure out what this ExtJS is all about, now that they have made it core in Typo3
12:39 voidus Denyerec: ExtJS is a huge beast. perfect match for typo3.
12:39 Denyerec Hahahaha
12:39 Denyerec I am unsure if that is a compliment, or Russian sarcasm
12:39 ttf hi all../wc
12:39 ttf erm..
12:40 voidus Denyerec: 50/50
12:40 Denyerec Hmm
12:41 Spacecube does anyone know if it is allowed to program an own typ3 extension and sell that under an other license than GPL???
12:41 Denyerec If you make something for Typo3, you cannot sell it, IIRC
12:41 Denyerec you can charge a client to build it, but then it must be opensource for all thereafter.
12:41 voidus you cannot sell an extension...
12:42 Denyerec So even if you don't put it on TER, the client could.
12:42 Denyerec Great for some, bad for others.
12:43 voidus but there is workaround: make extension a wrapper around something external and sell that external...
12:43 Spacecube so if someone creates an extension he can sell it as a service for the hours he worked on it...
12:43 Denyerec Yes.
12:43 Denyerec Well.
12:44 Denyerec You can't put it on a site and say "PAY $100 for this"
12:44 Spacecube but he isn't allowed to say "i'll give the extension to you for a yearly fee of $400"
12:44 Denyerec Say you hire me to do a Typo3 site
12:44 Denyerec and you need some custom extension
12:44 Denyerec I'll invoice you for the work, yeah?
12:44 Denyerec BUT
12:44 Denyerec after that work is done
12:44 Denyerec that extension is open source public domain free to the world
12:45 Spacecube the ext is mine and i can to what i want with it
12:45 Spacecube yeah
12:45 Denyerec Yep
12:45 Spacecube thats what i meant
12:45 Denyerec As the customer, you could put the extension on the TER if you wanted
12:45 Denyerec you could not sell it, though, as you can't really sell open source code
12:45 Denyerec I mean, you can, but you're always charging implementation
12:45 Denyerec never for the code itself
12:45 Spacecube well he isn't allowed to say that he will give me the extension for a local install and i have to pay a yearly fee of $400???
12:46 Spacecube cos he will sell a "using"-license to me then
12:46 Denyerec Yearly fee of $400, depends what for.
12:46 Denyerec if it's a support contract, then sure thing.
12:46 Denyerec but the software itself, the actual lines of code, cannot be sold
12:46 Spacecube it's nt a support contract
12:47 Denyerec That does not seem right.
12:47 Spacecube he just allows me to use it if i pay
12:47 Denyerec You need to ask someone more knowledgeable than me
12:47 Denyerec But that does not sound right, not for GPL.
12:47 Spacecube AND he will give me the updates
12:47 Spacecube well i've got such a case...
12:47 Denyerec there is a typo3 legal team
12:47 Denyerec if you write to them and explain your situation
12:48 Spacecube i found someone who created an extension for seat reservation in a theatre....
12:48 Denyerec they will tell you what's going on
12:48 Denyerec becuase my speciality is CSS, not law :)
12:49 Denyerec Email (obscured mail address) , explain carefully the situation and try not to be biased.
12:49 Denyerec Just give them all the information, and they should be able to point you in the right direction.
12:49 Spacecube i need such an extension and i asked him if i can get that extension...i told him i will pay for the working hours he had....but he just wants to give me the extension for a local install...but i have to administer it by myself....
12:50 Spacecube for that he wants $400 each year
12:50 Denyerec You are best to email typo3.org and ask someone who knows for sure
12:50 Denyerec Do not spend any money until you hear from them!
12:50 Spacecube okay....my english is not that good....can i write in german too there?
12:52 Spacecube hahaaaaa!!!
12:53 Spacecube Contact the TYPO3 Association
12:53 Spacecube email (obscured mail address) - or use our contact form
12:53 Spacecube Sihlbruggstrasse 105
12:53 Spacecube 6340 Baar, Switzerland
12:53 Spacecube that's just my neighbor and i didn't know that
14:21 NiFkE btw i'm here
14:21 NiFkE http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8306/capturejim.jpg
14:21 NiFkE and I don't want to get a blank site again
14:21 NiFkE what should I do :)
14:22 Spacecube make a backup and then just try
14:29 Spacecube i've got this message in List mode: Warning: mysql_fetch_row(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /typo3_src-4.2.6/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 823
14:29 Spacecube any ideas?
14:39 pmk65 Spacecube: Turn on sql debugging in the Install Tool. Then you'll be able to see what ext is causing it to fail.
14:42 Spacecube Unknown column 'static_countries.deleted' in 'where clause'
14:42 Spacecube Static_info_Tables seems to be the prob
14:42 Spacecube i've got the newest version of that ext.....
14:46 Spacecube nifke: did your update work now?
14:49 NiFkE still backuping
14:50 Spacecube tell me if you ge the same error message as i do when updated
14:57 pmk65 Spacecube: There's no field named "deleted" in my static_countries., so maybe it's some other extension you have installed that makes the where clause?
14:59 Spacecube caller t3lib_DB::exec_SELECTquery
14:59 Spacecube ERROR Unknown column 'static_countries.deleted' in 'where clause'
14:59 Spacecube astBuiltQuery SELECT count(*)
14:59 Spacecube FROM static_countries
14:59 Spacecube WHERE
14:59 Spacecube pid=17 AND static_countries.deleted=0
14:59 Spacecube debug_backtrace SC_db_list->main#451 // recordList->generateList#295 // localRecordList->getTable#268 // recordList->setTotalItems#397 // t3lib_DB->exec_SELECTquery#490 // t3lib_DB->debug#234
15:03 Spacecube strange...i only installed static_info_tables, templaVoila, cssStyledContent and htmlareaRTE
15:06 voidus Spacecube: go to install tool -> db -> compare?
15:08 Spacecube worked voidus, thanx a lot
15:08 Spacecube but why is that....i already compared after installing typo
15:09 Spacecube well it works now :o)
15:10 Spacecube next issue....does anyone know that freeCap CAPTCHA extension?
15:10 Spacecube as manual says there will be a backend module only if i have gdlib 2 installed.....i have it installed but there is still no backend module
18:15 loswillios hi
18:16 loswillios I want to create a theme based on crcph (system theme), so I copied typo3_src-4.2.6/typo3/sysext/cms/tslib/media/uploads/crcph to fileadmin/templates/crcph_modified
18:17 loswillios but it doesn't show up in templates -> includes (where the other themes are
18:17 loswillios )
18:18 loswillios is there something I missed? I don't want to edit the stuff in typo3_src-4.2.* directly because it gets lost when updating typo3
18:19 loswillios It works with page.20.template.file = fileadmin/templates/crcph_modified/main.htm but then the content isn't added (###MARK_HEADER### is displayed)
18:24 busse hi, i'm new at typo3 and I would like to know how upgrade version 4.2.6 to 4.2.8?
18:26 busse I have changed typo3_src link to typo3_src-4.2.8
18:27 busse there is any change to make on mysql database?
18:28 busse Am I forgetting something ?
18:28 loswillios nope, that's the way
18:28 loswillios you can check when you login, it should say 4.2.8 on the top of the page
18:29 busse yes
18:29 busse it's working fine
18:29 tt7times9 hello, I'm also new to typo3. how can i access another page content by page id in typoscript?
18:29 busse but about dummy package?
18:29 busse no database update needed?
18:30 Spacecube you'll see that in install tool -> database Analizer ans in DB Check
18:33 busse lol
18:33 busse okay, but now the install tools is deleting ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL
18:34 busse I create a new one again
18:34 busse and the tool delete again
18:34 busse what's happening?
18:37 busse only root can delete it
18:37 busse strange
18:37 busse www-data should not be able to
18:37 busse I'm running debian lenny - php5.3
18:38 Spacecube i didn't try 4.2.8 yet...dunno much bout that
18:39 Spacecube anyone ever used freeCap CAPTCHA extension??
18:40 busse okay
18:41 busse I found it...
18:41 busse my system time is diferent from system server
18:41 busse and when I put the file on it...
18:42 busse it goes with less 1h
18:43 busse a new feature on 4.2.8 is: If the file is older than 1 hour TYPO3 has automatically deleted it, so it needs to be created again.
18:44 Spacecube and that feature is needed??? sounds strange to me
18:45 busse for security proposes it's very important
18:45 busse but I think can cause some troubles...
18:46 busse with timestamp
18:48 Spacecube does anyone know a good gallery extension?
18:57 Spacecube hmmmm
19:47 phil1 chgallery
19:52 Marove hello
19:52 Marove can anyone help me by a problem with extention: calendar base (cal) ? (installationproblem)
19:56 phil1 whats the problem?
19:57 Marove i followed the installation manual: the first thing, i couldn't find the tool in the extention-manager
19:57 Marove i downloaded it from typo3.org an uploaded it manualy
19:57 Marove after the upload, normaly there has to be a page with the "update-button" right?
19:58 Marove but after upload, a white-site came and then nothing
19:58 Marove the data is on the ftp, but i can't configure the extention
19:58 Marove i tried another extention (realurl), there where no problems
19:59 phil1 hm
19:59 Marove and excuse my horrible english ;)
19:59 phil1 is the extention installed
19:59 phil1 where are you from?
19:59 Marove germany
20:00 phil1 me too
20:00 Spacecube na super :oP
20:12 phil1 btw... continued in private Chat (german)...
20:13 Marove problem solved.. thx @ phil1
20:13 phil1 Solution: I send a zip of my cal folder and then he could install the extention after uploading the content
20:14 phil1 proberly a php settings problem
20:14 phil1 im watching TV now... see you all
20:19 Spacecube Marove: do you know chgallery extension?
20:54 ries Spacecube: I used it a bit
20:55 Spacecube is it easy to change the template file?

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