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00:17 nd__ Hm.. anyone using rggooglemap? Do I really have to enter the google key on every page displaying a map!?
02:03 ries nd__: no TS config available??
06:46 sinasa hey is anyone about
06:46 sinasa i want ot know if there is any way to clear the cache from command line
06:46 sinasa instead of logging into admin panel and clicking clear cache
06:49 sinasa hello!?
07:13 bbq so many persons
07:31 bbq hi
07:31 bbq every one
08:05 Denyerec Phlogi - thoughts on that .org response from Rasmus?
09:17 nomatter001 hi
09:17 skurfuerst hi
09:17 jbaptiste_j is real Url supposed to be a pain in the backside ?
09:17 nomatter001 i'm working on an installed typo3 installation and i have to change a template
09:18 nomatter001 it is selected on some pages with template selector but i can't find the typoscript-code
09:18 nomatter001 any idea how i can find it?
09:18 skurfuerst look into fileadmin/templates
09:18 skurfuerst jbaptiste_j: actually realURL works quite well :)
09:18 _pedda_ hi all
09:19 pmk65 realURL is one of those extensions where you HAVE to read the manual, in order to be able to use it fully ;)
09:20 skurfuerst yeo
09:20 _pedda_ hehe true
09:21 nomatter001 there is the html-code but not the typoscript
09:25 nomatter001 ?
09:26 pmk65 nomatter001: Try the Typoscript Object Browser, and look for the plugin setup.
09:38 nomatter001 ok thx i got it
09:38 nomatter001 another question
09:39 nomatter001 is it possible to make a typoscript-condition on the template selected on a page with the rlmp_templateselector
09:39 nomatter001 i mean something like: when template2 is selected do that typoscript else another one
09:41 skurfuerst I don't know, sorry
09:42 maholtz @nomatter001: should be
09:43 maholtz you need the name of that field
09:43 maholtz it should be available in pages record
09:44 maholtz [globalVar = TSFE:page|lrlmp_fieldnamehere = 1]
09:44 Phlogi_ hi guys
09:44 maholtz hi phlogi
09:45 Phlogi_ hi hi hi
09:45 Phlogi_ maholtz: this channel seems your new home ;)
09:45 nomatter001 maholtz: is the filedname the filename of the template like: template2.html ?
09:47 maholtz no
09:47 maholtz check TCA -> pages
09:48 maholtz or have a look in the html-code of the backend - the fieldname is there in attribute name of the selectbox
09:48 Celestar morning
09:49 Denyerec mornin phlogi, mahooooooooooooooooooooooltz
09:49 Denyerec ¬_¬
09:49 maholtz morning denyerec:) morning celestar
09:49 maholtz :)
09:50 Denyerec I got up FAR too early today because the bastard next door decided to start pissing around with his badly broken motorbike at 5am,
09:50 Denyerec FIVE AM
09:50 Denyerec OH FIVE HUNDRED HOURS
09:50 Celestar O_o Denyerec
09:50 FloLeBlanc hi all
09:50 FloLeBlanc does anyone use powermail with wt_spamshield?
09:50 Denyerec What kind of inconsiderate shit starts tinkering with a bloody loud and broken 125cc engine at 0500hrs?
09:50 Denyerec Ugh.
09:50 Denyerec Second day in a row he's done it too.
09:51 Denyerec He gets one last try, that's all I'm gonna say on a logged public medium.
09:51 Celestar ok I've set up my first typo3 website. I got a root page (index.php?ID=3) and some 'subpage' (index.php?ID=xx). However setting up a HMENU with the pages creates links with 1.html, xx.html etc ... where am I screwing this up?
09:51 Denyerec *shakes head and tries to remain awake*
09:51 Jahithber how can i change audio language on tutorial videos on website typo3.org in media player?
09:51 Denyerec Celestar - pastecode your menu TS
09:51 Celestar sec
09:52 ndee I try to create a new page template in templavoila. Isn't there a function where I can select the file I want to create a DS/TO with?
09:52 Denyerec Using the option in your media player to select the secondary audio channel Jahithber
09:52 Jahithber ok thanks i will try
09:52 Denyerec ndee - I always click the html file and select "templavoila" from the popup menu
09:52 Denyerec Right click on the file icon in the filelist view, that is
09:52 ndee Denyerec: in the flielist?
09:52 Denyerec ^
09:52 ndee yeah, I'm missing that somehow. Hm
09:53 Denyerec Mmmhm?
09:53 Denyerec You mean it's not in your popup menu?
09:53 ndee Denyerec: yeah, it's not there.
09:53 Denyerec You a superuser, and have you done the flush-cache-logout-login dance?
09:53 Celestar BAH why doesn't copypaste from a VM work O_o
09:53 Denyerec The dance can be very important.
09:53 Denyerec Celestar - it depends on your VM software.
09:53 Celestar VMWS6.5
09:54 Denyerec Some have a special clipboard driver / util you can add in
09:54 ndee Denyerec: yeah, even did the dance ;)
09:54 Denyerec Hmm.
09:54 Denyerec What type of file are you clicking on ndee?
09:54 ndee that's just weird.
09:54 Denyerec Is it a .html ?
09:54 Celestar yeah it's enabled
09:54 ndee html file
09:54 ndee yes, one-column-breadcrumb.html.
09:54 Denyerec is the extension html or htm ?
09:54 Celestar sec typing the link :P
09:54 ndee html
09:54 Denyerec Hmm, I'm just clutching at straws you understand
09:54 Denyerec what directory is it in ?
09:55 ndee fileadmin/templates/pages/
09:55 Denyerec have you created other TV templates successfully ?
09:55 Celestar Denyerec: http://nopaste.com/p/abo5T28OS
09:55 ndee Denyerec: yes, my brother did but not with that nice popup thing and I can't reach him at the moment.
09:55 Denyerec Celestar can you paste your whole TS?
09:56 Denyerec ndee -I've honestly never seen that happen :/
09:56 Denyerec You got the latest versions of everything ?
09:56 Denyerec Celestar - use Phlogi's pastecode
09:56 Denyerec it hightlights TS
09:56 Denyerec link incoming
09:56 Denyerec http://www.phlogi.net/t3/tsp/
09:56 Celestar heh it's a total mess but ok ;)
09:56 ndee Denyerec: yeah, me neither. Strange thing.
09:56 Phlogi or short: paste.phlogi.net
09:57 Phlogi why is mktime(0,0,1,1,2009) not the same as mktime(0,0,1,1,09) ? thats so annoying!
09:57 Celestar Denyerec: http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/celestar
09:58 Celestar maybe I should clean that mess first
09:58 Denyerec Celestar - your link issue is on line 5
09:58 Denyerec :)
09:58 Celestar oh
09:58 Celestar /facepalm
09:58 Denyerec phlogi I love your highlighter.
09:59 Celestar yay
09:59 Celestar so now I get to get translations working :D
10:00 Celestar quick Q about HMENU. CUR si the currently selected item and ACT is all the items from root to currently through the tree?
10:00 nomatter001 maholtz: <option selected="selected" value="itc_inside_2.html">Unbenanntes Dokument (itc_inside_2.html)</option>
10:00 Phlogi Denyerec: thanks... I want to improve it, but I just can't geshilib to work... its really annoying, I want highlighting for php and css and such as well
10:00 Phlogi Denyerec: but thanks :)
10:00 nomatter001 maholtz: this is the be html code and i would need to write typoscript special to that template
10:01 Denyerec yes Celestar
10:01 Denyerec that is correct
10:01 Celestar cool
10:01 Celestar I'm beginning to like this product
10:01 maholtz @nomatter001: so your condition would be page|nameofmagicfield = itc_inside_2.html
10:02 Denyerec Celestar, once you get over the lack of a forum and the learning curve, it's pretty cool
10:02 nomatter001 maholtz: and how do i get the name of that field (nameofmagicfield) ?
10:02 Celestar Denyerec: so there should never be two CUR items right?
10:02 ndee Denyerec: do you maybe have a google suggestion on what to search for? :D
10:02 maholtz <select name="magicfield" ><option...
10:02 Denyerec There should never be two CUR items
10:03 Denyerec unless you figure out a way to browse two pages at once
10:03 Denyerec :)
10:03 Celestar heh
10:03 Celestar hm.
10:03 Celestar so my menu code must have a bug
10:03 Denyerec I find it a BIT confusing, because "active" is the current active link in CSS, which to my CSS riddled mind implies only one.
10:03 Denyerec BUT
10:03 Denyerec I might have ACT and CUR muddled up
10:03 Denyerec as I always do that
10:03 Denyerec best way is to expand a tree path and examine the generated HTML
10:04 Celestar because I have this CUR.allWrap in it and it puts this wrapstuff around two items O_o
10:05 Celestar §%&
10:05 nomatter001 @maholtz: data[pages][610][tx_rlmptmplselector_main_tmpl]
10:05 Celestar /facepalm +1
10:06 nomatter001 maholtz: that would be the magicfieldname?
10:06 nomatter001 maholtz: or just tx_rlmptmplselector_main_tmpl
10:06 maholtz pages is the table, 610 is the id of that page, tx_rlmp... is the name of that field
10:08 Celestar ok next ;) the localization stuff just adds some &L=xx to the link right?
10:12 Denyerec Celestar - paste up your current menu code, with the current menu HTML output
10:12 Celestar the menu code is still at the same link ;)
10:13 Denyerec oh, it's not changed?
10:13 Celestar not the language menu, no
10:14 Celestar http://paste.phlogi.net/-3b45307bff <= that's the resulting menu
10:14 Denyerec ppppp-pastefail
10:15 Denyerec that wraps the entire active rootline
10:15 Denyerec AFAIK
10:15 Denyerec try knocking it out and see what happens
10:16 Celestar sec :P
10:16 Celestar http://paste.phlogi.net/-3b45307bbf/ <= that's the resulting menu
10:16 Celestar stupid typo
10:17 Denyerec that looks fine. It also looks like the HTML output of your language menu.
10:17 Denyerec is that the one you're working on?
10:17 Celestar yeah.
10:17 Celestar just the links both result in the same language to be displayed
10:18 Denyerec Celestar
10:19 Celestar *hides*
10:19 Denyerec http://paste.phlogi.net/den_menu/
10:19 Denyerec that's how I do my basic menus
10:19 Denyerec Perhaps there will be some insight there?
10:20 Celestar checking ;)
10:21 Celestar no insight yet :P
10:21 Celestar at least not with reference to the language page displayed
10:36 Denyerec I've never worked with multilanguage sadly
10:39 Celestar is there some undo function btw?
10:44 maholtz someone knows an eclipse plugin with which i can work on remote server via sftp?
10:44 FloLeBlanc anyone using powermail with wt_spamshield?
10:47 Phlogi maholtz: use sshfs
10:47 Phlogi maholtz: so first mount the whole server directory
10:48 Celestar how can I sort the pages so that the menu comes out in a certain order?
10:49 maholtz @Phlogi: i need an solution which works on mac, linux and windows:(
10:49 Celestar sshfs works on mac, linux and windows
10:49 Phlogi maholtz: not sure about crappy windows
10:50 FloLeBlanc phlogi: then we can be happy that the last crappy windows version was 98 :)
10:50 maholtz if i am using sshfs - what happens if i got disconnected?
10:51 Phlogi maholtz: shit starts happening then ;) but thats normal...
10:53 Celestar big shit :P
10:55 Celestar my first suse was some version 5 thingy or so
10:55 Phlogi grr would typo3 please respect my language stringt in tca!
10:56 Phlogi Celestar: 6.2 or something here
10:56 Phlogi 7 cd's already :D
10:56 Celestar I still have the box I think
10:56 Celestar and I have two disks (or three) of Windows 1.01
10:57 JunGle 10 Hello
10:58 JunGle 10 I need help !
10:58 Phlogi grrr: 'lablel' => 'LLL:EXT:staffhols/locallang_db.xml:tx_staffhols_tenses.booked'
10:58 Celestar Help.Give(&JunGle)
10:58 Phlogi and I have that label in my xml :D
10:58 JunGle 10 ^^
10:58 JunGle 10 I have a problem with typoscript in my template
10:59 JunGle 10 I want include a new extension pbsurvey
10:59 JunGle 10 But... it's impossible to view this extension in my frontend
11:01 Phlogi or is this tca entry invalid? http://paste.phlogi.net/-bebe0578a1/
11:02 JunGle 10 Celestar i think my problem is in this file : http://pastebin.com/m2232cd10
11:02 JunGle 10 If you have un idea...
11:02 teppi|work Phlogi, lablel .. hihi
11:02 JunGle 10 ( Ctype: file.. ? )
11:02 Phlogi damn, thanks teppi|work
11:02 JunGle 10 Ctype: list .. sry
11:03 teppi|work :D
11:03 Phlogi quassel is an awesome irc client btw ;) and kde4.3 is an uber awesome desktop environment btw2 :D
11:05 JunGle .. no answer :(
11:08 tofirius hello
11:08 tofirius does anyone have experience with wt_calculating_captcha & powermail?
11:11 teppi|work JunGle, i dont really get, why you include the plugin this way
11:12 teppi|work normally it should be included by the ext_tables.php / ext_localconf.php ..
11:12 teppi|work and everything should be fine
11:12 nomatter001 hi
11:12 JunGle 10 Teppi|work yes
11:13 JunGle 10 With a new typo3.. no pb, but in this website ... i can't :(
11:13 nomatter001 is it possible with typoscript to select the parts of a subtree until a seperator and for another menu the parts of the same subtree after the seperator for a typoscript TMENU?
11:16 teppi|work JunGle, maybe you should debug step by step .. try output simple text first and so on ..
11:17 JunGle 10 :(
11:17 nd__ I want to create a FCE in TV to add vimeo-videos to a page. All I want to customer to input is the video id... how do I get this id to TS then, to wrap the url around and output it to page?
11:19 nomatter001 it means i need to split the menu into two parts with a variable position (must not be a seperator but i need to configure the position in the be)
11:22 maholtz @nomatter001: you other problem is solved?
11:23 nomatter001 maholtz: i got to phone the orginal designer and he told me that i have to do something else (he had different subparts for different templates)
11:23 nomatter001 maholtz: thx for it but i didn't tried it out then
11:24 nomatter001 maholtz: is it possible to select menu items until a seperator page for a menu?
11:24 nomatter001 with COA or something like that?
11:24 maholtz sure, but not easy. use loadregister - and disable all other menu items if loadregister has value
11:24 nomatter001 i found something to split directly in the center but i need it to be configureable
11:25 nomatter001 maholtz: is there anywhere reference on that?
11:29 nomatter001 maholtz: you know what i mean?
11:30 maholtz well. TSref...
11:31 nomatter001 the problem is i have a ts to split based on static pids in my tscode
11:31 nomatter001 but can i generate that lists dynamically with ts?
11:31 maholtz based on which information? randomly;) ? sure
11:32 nomatter001 no i have a seperator in the menu
11:32 nomatter001 and i want to split at the seperator
11:32 nomatter001 so first menu should consist of the points until the seperator menu-point
11:32 maholtz you know TypoScript object LOAD_REGISTER?
11:32 maholtz that would be the solution
11:32 nomatter001 no i don't
11:33 maholtz ok, well, i cannot provide you an simple snippet
11:33 maholtz but LOAD_REGISTER in combination to if would do the job
11:34 nomatter001 but load_register just fills an array or do i understand something incorrect
11:36 maholtz you can read that value with getData back: ...data = register:yourregister
11:37 nomatter001 and yourregister would be the seperator?
11:39 maholtz nope, you would check then on each menu, if it should be render or not, if register is set, it will not be rendered
11:40 maholtz you can use cObject = TEXT cObject.if.isTrue.data = register:yourregister
11:40 maholtz to override the menu item
11:40 maholtz if register is set, all menus will renderd as empty string
11:40 maholtz you need the correct stdWrap to put cObject on it
11:40 maholtz read TSref for that
11:40 maholtz perhaps http://wiki.typo3.org/Ts45min helps to understand basics of typoscript
11:43 nd__ No TV-ninja in here?
11:43 nomatter001 so for instance when the menu-item is before the seperator item in the list the register must be set?
11:45 maholtz nope, the basic idea is: the register is empty at start of the menu, all menu are rendered, with the spacer (SPC!) you load the register, so alle menu items are rendered as empty string, if the register is not empty
11:45 Celestar styles.content.get gets the 'normal' thingy, right?
11:45 maholtz colPos = 0
11:46 maholtz @Celestar
11:46 Celestar how do I determinal the colPos of something? :P
11:46 maholtz check backend columns - or use database
11:47 maholtz usually the content element itself shows you which column is selected
11:48 Celestar and how does one get columns with colPos != 0
11:49 NiFkE where do I find again the config file in typo3 where I can change the database name and username etc ?
11:50 teppi|work NiFkE, typo3conf/localconf.php
11:51 NiFkE ty
11:52 nomatter001 maholtz: in the document you sent me there is explained how to make normal menus and use ts in general but no such special stuff
11:52 Denyerec nd - you still having trouble?
11:52 nomatter001 maholtz: LOAD_REGISTER isn't explained there
11:52 maholtz @Celestar: have an look into css_styled_content - the most is pretty simple
11:52 maholtz @nomatter001: sure
11:52 Celestar 41978b
11:52 Celestar 9bbd76
11:52 Celestar 8e2fd0
11:52 Celestar 33560115
11:52 Celestar bah sorry
11:53 nomatter001 maholtz: there is just a link to the tsref
11:53 maholtz yep, but you need to _understand_ the stuff, not just doing it
11:55 nomatter001 maholtz: i understand how to use normal menus and stdwrap, i don't understand how this helps me to understand to work mit LOAD_REGISTER
11:56 nd__ Denyerec: Indeed
11:56 Denyerec tried re-installing TV?
11:56 nd__ Denyerec: Nah... it's more of a conceptual problem
11:57 Denyerec oh
11:57 Denyerec so you found the wizard ok now ?
11:59 nd__ wizard!?
12:00 nd__ If I add an element - input box in Templavoila, how do I access that input data from withhin TS and where do I put said TS?
12:00 nomatter001 maholtz: couldn't i do it with something like records to read the records and only display some of them with if?
12:02 teppi|work Denyerec, http://wiki.typo3.org/TemplaVoila/FCE#Default_pass-through_of_content
12:02 teppi|work shouldnt it be possible to wrap the needed html around in the stdwrap
12:02 teppi|work ?
12:02 Denyerec nd__ - you can use the .field thing from TS
12:02 teppi|work i think you have to write all TS in the datastructure
12:02 Denyerec and just match it to the field name
12:02 teppi|work oh ..
12:02 teppi|work err
12:02 NiFkE teppi|work do you know where that config file is of SMF (simple machines forum)
12:02 teppi|work nd
12:02 nd__ teppi|work: Yes, I thought about the wrapping-around to
12:03 nd__ teppi|work: Yes, I thought about the wrapping-around too
12:03 NiFkE k found it
12:04 davidbrunnthaler hello, maybe a stupid question to start with, but what can i do to retrieve my password if i forgot it?
12:04 Celestar try harder ;)
12:04 teppi|work davidbrunnthaler, be login?
12:05 davidbrunnthaler sry i meant for the irc-channel
12:05 davidbrunnthaler :)
12:05 Denyerec nd__ maybe this helps?
12:05 Denyerec http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-project-templavoila/2006-September/001301.html
12:06 Denyerec What nonsense is this... "You can't contribute to the typo3.org project as a single person"
12:06 Denyerec Claptrap and poppycock
12:06 nd__ hmm...
12:06 Denyerec No wonder the bloody website is a shambles.
12:06 nd__ i will read it after lunch
12:09 davidbrunnthaler or is there no way to send me my password?
12:10 Phlogi Denyerec: wtf... yes, grr
12:11 Denyerec Admittedly that response is from the person covering for Rasmus
12:11 davidbrunnthaler never mind i got it..
12:11 Denyerec who in his initial response sounded promising
12:56 Celestar I've a problem with my main content not being inserted in this template: http://paste.phlogi.net/celhtml with the TS template being http://paste.phlogi.net/cel2 .. all I get is a ###maincontent### ###maincontent###
12:56 Celestar what did I mess up there?
13:01 leeotzu Hi All
13:01 leeotzu Anyone tried freesite for templavoila
13:07 leeotzu Is there a documentation in detail /manual for freesite for templaviola
13:08 ledrue hi. is it possible to preview hidden news (tt_news)? in page options i set tx_ttnews.singlePid = x, but it works only for valid news.
13:13 NiFkE hm
13:13 NiFkE got a problem
13:13 NiFkE TemplaVoila ERROR:
13:13 NiFkE Template Object could not be unserialized successfully.
13:13 NiFkE Are you sure you saved mapping information into Template Object with UID "2"?
13:17 NiFkE ? :x
13:19 nomatter001 wouldn't it be simpler to generate the menu with a php-script?
13:21 void NiFkE: check your template for not-utf8 symbols
13:21 NiFkE http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=2856&nbn=9#bugnotes
13:21 NiFkE will do this
13:22 nomatter001 is there any simple way to select the parts of a subtree until a seperator and for another menu the parts of the same subtree after the seperator for a typoscript TMENU?
13:22 nomatter001 or do i have to do that with php?
13:22 Celestar in the TS template, can I somehow place a newline as not to get unreadable HTML sources?
13:22 nomatter001 i can't do it with the hints from maholtz
13:28 Denyerec I don't even know what Freesite is
13:29 Celestar hm. if I have a menu with entrylevel = 2 set, it should not show the "first level" of pages at all right? so .1 will be the second levels?
13:32 Denyerec I think so yes.
13:33 Celestar hm .. so it seems :D
13:40 wizkoder hy everybody
13:41 wizkoder how do I check the actual id (TypoID) with typoscript?
13:41 NiFkE anybody who know why I have this pma in my url: .com/index.php?id=28&phpMyAdmin=
13:41 NiFkE :s
13:44 NiFkE why does phpMyAdmin become visible in the url :s
13:46 maholtz @wizkoder: .data = TSFE:id
13:46 nd__ teppi|work: What I have is http://pastebin.com/d31c3adfa but that doesn't work... ideas?
13:46 maholtz see getData for details
13:46 maholtz ups getText:)
13:47 wizkoder trying....
13:51 Celestar NO.allWrap = <li>|</li> <= is there any way to append a newline to this for the HTML source?
13:52 leeotzu Is there a documentation in detail /manual for freesite for templaviola
13:53 tofirius hi
13:53 tofirius please help!
13:53 tofirius my site is broken
13:53 tofirius http://www.ywamlatvia.com
13:53 tofirius i added some lines to my template TS
13:53 tofirius & now the site is totally down
13:53 maholtz @tofirius: check for not closing curly brackets "}"
13:53 tofirius i will check really quickly
13:53 tofirius thank you
13:53 Celestar .oO(Draft Workspace)
13:55 tofirius maholtz: what i added looks correct
13:55 maholtz remove it - if everything works again...
13:56 tofirius right
13:56 maholtz and put your code to pastebin
13:56 maholtz i would expect an typo - check in object browser what happens to your PAGE object
13:56 maholtz perhaps not closed condition
13:56 maholtz brb
13:56 tofirius maholtz: ok thanks
14:03 tofirius maholtz: this is what i added to my typoscript
14:03 tofirius http://paste.phlogi.net/-0a791ab48f/
14:03 tofirius oh i see there is one brace less
14:04 tofirius maholtz: thanks.... i'm happy that the paste bin could help me see that
14:04 nomatter001 maholtz: i got my problem solved with a much simpler solution, i just make a div arround the non displayed items and make it hidden
14:05 nomatter001 maholtz: thx for your help
14:17 Celestar hm ... my ###mainContent### ###mainContent### markers are still visible when rendering a page (the actual content not being there). What kind of a problem does that indicate?
14:29 NiFkE void kan i pm you?
14:29 void NiFkE: yes
14:29 tofirius bye
14:30 Celestar man I have questions over questions :P
14:30 Celestar /goes finding a book
14:41 Celestar heh... is there another way than to store the DB password in clear text on the drive?
14:44 nd__ Denyerec: Clue about http://pastebin.com/d31c3adfa and not working?
14:45 Denyerec you need to turn off char parsing
14:45 Denyerec <HSC>0</HSC>
14:46 Denyerec whack that before <TypoScript>
14:47 nd__ well, that's currently commented out
14:48 nd__ Now removed, no change
14:52 Denyerec You're expecing the FCE to be wrapped with wurm | wurm
14:52 nd__ right
14:52 nd__ but just outputting it would be nice too...
14:52 nd__ well, output the given input
15:04 Jahithber dam i forgot password to my typo3 backend where can i change it ?^^
15:04 Jahithber damn*
15:04 jbaptiste_j you can recreate one in the install tool I think
15:05 Jahithber one time i edited some config file but i forgot wich one it was
15:08 Denyerec nd__
15:08 Denyerec try 10.field = tv_field_name
15:08 Denyerec rather than current just to see
15:10 nd__ does not...
15:12 Denyerec hmm
15:12 Denyerec are you seeing ANY tv output?
15:12 Denyerec your TV install seems to be dodgy to me :)
15:13 nd__ I do see TV output... sure
15:13 nd__ ok
15:13 nd__ removed some more stuff, but I get the input value
15:21 Jahithber damn i was unable to login
15:22 Jahithber i didnt do nothing after 10 minutes i tried again and now its working its very strange
15:22 nd__ Denyerec: Thank you very much
15:22 nd__ Is there a wrap like .wrap but which is able to use two | to insert something two times?
15:22 nd__ Or do I have to do it in two steps?
15:22 teppi|work Jahithber, maybe there was a cookie set
15:23 teppi|work sounds like imho
15:23 Denyerec Um
15:24 Denyerec I think there's an innerWrap
15:24 Denyerec then Wrap
15:24 Jahithber maybe :) anyway i tried JOOMLA DRUPAL MODX XOOPS and other shitty cms and TYPO3 is the KING rest is shit behalve MODX
15:24 Denyerec and of course stdWrap
15:24 nd__ Denyerec: stdWrap does two |?
15:24 Denyerec no
15:25 Denyerec i'm just saying you have three wrap functions to play with
15:25 Denyerec what's your desired input and output?
15:26 nd__ input is 35
15:26 nd__ output should be: <a href="35" alt="35" />
15:26 nd__ or whatever... a string using input two times
15:30 maholtz @nd__: LOAD_REGISTER
15:30 Denyerec I see what you mean there nd
15:31 maholtz 1 = LOAD_REGISTER
15:31 maholtz 1.temp = 35
15:31 maholtz 2 = TEXT
15:31 maholtz 2.value = <a href="{register:temp}" alt="{register:temp}" />
15:31 maholtz 2.insertData =1
15:31 Denyerec And yes, load_reg
15:31 Celestar *bites in desk*
15:33 swemark Good afternoon TYPO3
15:33 swemark Anyone ever experienced problems with yafi when importing feeds?
15:34 swemark Problems in the visinity of all imported news getting pid = 0?
15:34 maholtz @swemark: yes, with character sets
15:34 swemark Chars is all fine
15:34 swemark its just that it imports them with pid = 0
15:35 swemark thus ignoring the constant set on where to store the elements
15:35 maholtz can you set it via typoscript? perhaps you have to do it in the cronjob, cant remember
15:35 swemark nope, no through cron, its set in constants but ignored when imported
15:36 swemark Havent had this problem before with yafi so i figured im ding something wrong
15:36 swemark doing*
15:36 maholtz can you set that value in setup instead of constants?
15:37 swemark testing
15:38 swemark nope, no diffrence
15:40 Celestar I have 5 markers for subparts in my file, 4 of which are working fine, and the 5th is just not being replaced with content O_o
15:42 nd__ maholtz & Denyerec: I'm using http://pastebin.com/d35f3022b for now (example simplified) but I do get an additional output of field_video before the <param... do you see why/where?
15:42 maholtz @Celestar: solution 1: you have some typos; solution 2: your marker is in some of the other markers; solution 3: there is no content between your marker
15:42 Celestar what do you mean by solution 3?
15:43 Celestar when I'm rendering the page, I do see the marker itself
15:43 maholtz @nd__: not found?
15:44 nd__ nay, I don't see it
15:44 maholtz äh, i got "no found" with that url..
15:44 maholtz i wanted to say
15:44 nd__ ah, sorry
15:44 nd__ http://pastebin.com/d35f3022b hmm... works here
15:45 maholtz ok, works for me know too
15:45 maholtz lol - now:)
15:45 maholtz 10.temp < 5 cannot work
15:46 maholtz 10.temp = TEXT than
15:46 maholtz use: 10.temp.field = field_video
15:46 nd__ hmm,... but I get the right output on {register:temp}
15:46 maholtz hm.. ok, than i am wrong:)
15:46 Celestar maholtz http://paste.phlogi.net/cel2 is my template
15:47 maholtz @nd__: ah, never noticed that i can set the Object on an LOAD_REGISTER, nice:)
15:47 Celestar maholtz: the styles.content.get is what is not working for some reason
15:49 maholtz i would bet on solution 3: <!-- ###maincontent### -->Put Input here!<!-- ###maincontent### -->
15:49 nd__ maholtz: So you don't see the output either?
15:49 Celestar k sec
15:50 maholtz @Celestar: or you didnt include css_styled_content :)
15:50 maholtz @nd__: what is wrong? start with <param and ends with </object>?
15:51 Celestar maholtz: hm .. your solution now shows Put Input here! :P
15:51 maholtz @nd__: if {regitser:temp} get replaced, whats wrong then?
15:51 maholtz @Celestar: ok, so change maincontent = TEXT
15:51 maholtz maincontent.value = hello world
15:52 Celestar sec
15:52 maholtz check for typos in your html template
15:53 Celestar does work
15:53 Celestar so it's the css_sytled_content?
15:54 maholtz styles.content.get belongs to css_styled_content, it is defined there!
15:54 nd__ maholtz: that I get 35 <param value="35" ...><embed src="35" ...></embed></object>... the first 35 - where is it from?
15:54 Celestar maholtz: do I need anything else besides to load the EXT?
15:54 Celestar oh yes.
15:55 maholtz @nd__: you load it from the register? both "35"
15:55 Celestar but where :P
15:55 maholtz @Celestar: yes:) Main Template, include static templates
15:56 nd__ maholtz: I do load two from register but get three outputs
15:56 Celestar /facelam
15:56 Celestar /facepalm
15:56 nd__ maholtz: probably my 5 TEXT object outputs it too?
15:56 Celestar thanks maholtz
15:56 Celestar *moves on to translations*
15:57 maholtz @Celestar: your welcome:)
15:57 maholtz @nd__: yes
15:58 nd__ And how to I compress my three objects code into code which only outputs it twice? idea?
15:58 maholtz instead of using your 5 = TEXT use it in the register only
15:58 maholtz 10.field =...
15:58 maholtz ups
15:58 maholtz 10.temp.field = ....
15:58 maholtz where 10 = LOAD_REGISTER
15:59 Celestar hm ..
16:01 nd__ maholtz: then I don't get the value
16:03 maholtz 10 = LOAD_REGISTER
16:03 maholtz 10.temp.field = field_video
16:03 maholtz ? doesnt work?
16:03 maholtz hm... with 10.temp = TEXT then?
16:04 nd__ Even then, no... doesn't work
16:05 maholtz *wondering*
16:08 Celestar where can I see the IDs of languages that have been set up?
16:08 _pedda_ web -> list -> klick on the globe at the top of your pagetree
16:08 _pedda_ and you see the languages listed
16:09 _pedda_ stay a few seconds above the icon of each language record to determine the id of it
16:10 Celestar ah
16:10 Celestar I have a translated content, but not yet a translated page for it
16:22 Jahithber does somone of you uses BORDER?
16:22 Jahithber i think it good if website is for higer resolutions
16:25 Phlogi hmm hmm
16:26 Phlogi I'm having markers and a subpart... now I replace the subpart with substituteSubPart, this leaves the other markers there wich seems to be ok
16:26 Phlogi but then when I replace those with substituteMarkerArrayCached they are inserted twice
16:29 Phlogi I must be doing something wrong.. :)
16:29 Celestar welcome to the club
16:29 Celestar I'm only getting the english page
16:29 Celestar even tho the links I'm clicking are correct.
16:30 Celestar I must be mising some TS setup
16:30 Phlogi fixed
16:31 Celestar not fixed yet :P
16:31 Celestar wanna help? (=
16:36 Celestar hm ..
16:36 Celestar I guess the simple < styles.content.get will not work anymore with multiple langs?
16:43 Denyerec http://www.flickr.com/photos/denyerec/3698241406/
16:43 Denyerec erk
16:44 Denyerec sorry lads
16:46 nd__ maholtz & Denyerec: Ideas? http://pastebin.com/d70eefc24 gives me no value-output... if I do put 5 = TEXT \ 5.field = field_video and then copy that into 10 I get an extra output of value...
16:47 Denyerec mmm
16:47 Denyerec is that the correct use of the register maholtz ?
16:47 maholtz i am not sure
16:47 maholtz i used it like that:
16:47 maholtz 10.temp.cObject = TEXT
16:48 maholtz but if 10.temp < 5 works... it should be the same (afaik) like 10.temp = TEXT ; 10.temp.field = ..
16:49 nd__ except that it's not, because the first is working, except the extra value-output where the latter is not working at all
16:56 maholtz @nd__ did you tried the cObject thing?
16:57 nd__ Not yet. Don't I need the .field to get the value from TV?
17:01 maholtz @nd__: cObject = TEXT ; cObject.field =
17:04 nd__ no... no output of value
17:21 nd__ I wonder if I'll ever really get this TS magic
17:22 Denyerec pmk might knwo,
17:23 maholtz argh
17:24 maholtz @nd__: field !=! field_video
17:24 maholtz < means copy an object into that field
17:24 maholtz but field_video is not an existing object
17:25 maholtz if you want to get the TS magic, be more carefull in typing (do some training with assembler programming - with vi only;)
17:26 Denyerec ouch
17:26 Denyerec sadist
17:26 maholtz :p
17:27 nd__ Using vim, so vi would not be the problem.
17:27 nd__ assembler, on the other hand, could quickly become a problem
17:27 maholtz ok, than do it by hand, scan it ...
17:27 nd__ hehe
17:27 nd__ .field <- is not just a random name/var, is it?
17:28 maholtz what i wanted to point out: the most problems with typoscript belongs to typos or syntax errors, wrong used objects etc.
17:28 maholtz @nd__: yep
17:28 nd__ wrong used objects, definitely
17:28 maholtz field means: get an value of a field = name of field
17:28 nd__ right
17:29 nd__ thats how I understood it...
17:29 maholtz well, to make it clear: i have that often too
17:29 maholtz :)
17:29 nd__ at least
17:29 maholtz but the difference between = and < is clear?
17:29 nd__ what I'd love: Gimme warnings/errors without leaving the editor and tell me a line
17:30 nd__ Yes... but I haven't used it wrong, have I?
17:30 maholtz yes, you had: field < an_object
17:30 maholtz instead of field = name_of_field
17:30 maholtz otherwise you need to define an_object = name_of_field
17:31 maholtz to get it working
17:33 nd__ Gna... http://pastebin.com/d3c4f8e10 that's where I am
17:33 maholtz so, now remove "10.temp = TEXT"
17:34 maholtz and use {register:temp}
17:34 maholtz the Register is named "temp" nothing else
17:34 maholtz you fill the register with field "field_video"
17:34 nd__ right, sorry
17:34 nd__ that's just wrong in pastebin
17:35 maholtz np:)
17:35 nd__ Alright, awesome
17:36 nd__ thanks you two
17:42 Jahithber whats better mini news or tt_news?
17:43 void Jahithber: what's better: matiz or mercedes..
17:43 maholtz @Jahithber: tt_news
17:43 maholtz i do not know mini news *g*
17:44 nd__ And now one more advanced question (and probably the last for today): I have this FCE where I don't want to fill out the Header field, because I don't want a <hx>${HEADER}</hx> output. Using Page or List module, I only see [No title], which is crap for identifying the object. Is there a way to adjust that?
17:45 Jahithber okey so i will choose the mercedes :))
17:46 Celestar hm ..
17:47 Celestar styles.content.get {table=tt_content\select.where=colPos=0\select.languageField=sys_language_id}
17:47 Celestar should this retrieve the correct language? :P
17:49 Jahithber somtimes i am sitting on joomla channel and im reading their problems
17:50 Jahithber and they cant solve plugin problems
17:50 Jahithber on typo3 almost every problem is solved
17:50 Jahithber joomla is so bad the biggest cmd but the worse
17:52 maholtz @Celestar: yep
17:53 Celestar then I seem to have a typo :P
17:54 Celestar maholtz: does it matter where in the template this goes? inside the page { } or not?
17:55 maholtz ah, dont change styles.content.get
17:55 Celestar but?
17:55 maholtz it has languageField = sys_language_id built in
17:55 maholtz so, you need to check your language configuration
17:56 maholtz you need to have translated pages!
17:56 maholtz there are special records for that
17:56 Celestar I got a page with two pagecontents, one default, one german.
17:56 Celestar and I have an alternative page language
17:56 maholtz ok
17:57 Celestar but no luck yet
17:57 Celestar getting twice the default
17:59 Denyerec Jahithber - don't be so hasty :)
17:59 Denyerec It's just the big problems with Typo3 stay buried underground, encased in lead and 12ft of concrete
17:59 Denyerec ;)
17:59 Denyerec nd__ - any chance of a look at your final pastebin?
18:00 Denyerec <Jahithber> joomla is so bad the biggest cmd but the worse <--- Joomla has a friendly website and a forum ;)
18:01 nd__ Denyerec: Sure thing... complete xml?
18:02 Denyerec why not :)
18:02 Denyerec at least I know who to bug now when I have troubles.
18:02 Celestar hm .. :S
18:02 Denyerec I have an upcoming FCE that I don't know how to handle properly.
18:02 nd__ right.. maholtz will help
18:02 nd__ :D
18:02 Denyerec I need to write an extension, but am too scared :)
18:02 nd__ Nah, extensions is easier than TS
18:02 Denyerec basically I want to be able to pick N content elements and have them wrapped in a div and sequentially numbered.
18:02 Denyerec for JS slideshow purposes
18:03 Denyerec but all the slideshows I see deal with just images
18:03 Denyerec and not content
18:03 Denyerec glider is close
18:03 Denyerec I might hack that
18:03 Celestar do I need something special so that the &L=xx are parsed in the first place?
18:03 Denyerec um
18:03 Denyerec config.linkVars = L
18:04 nd__ Denyerec: There you go: http://pastebin.com/m1be5e9d7
18:04 teppi|work Denyerec, i built in something like this here: http://www.berliner-philharmoniker.de
18:04 Celestar oy BPhil :D
18:04 maholtz config.linkVars = L(1-3)
18:04 Denyerec hey teppi :)
18:04 maholtz not only L !
18:05 teppi|work Denyerec, its jquery caroussel or something like that
18:05 Celestar so L(0-99) if you 100 translations? :P
18:05 Denyerec that's *exactly* the thing I need teppi
18:05 Denyerec was it an extension or TS hackery?
18:05 teppi|work i built an extension
18:06 teppi|work i think
18:06 teppi|work erm
18:06 teppi|work i have to look
18:06 teppi|work ;D
18:06 nd__ hehe
18:06 Denyerec get that sucker up on the repo! :D
18:06 Celestar so sys_language_uid = 0 is default?
18:07 maholtz @teppi: nice work!
18:08 teppi|work Denyerec, yes its a plugin
18:08 teppi|work maholtz, thanks but i just did the coding
18:08 teppi|work did <-> just
18:08 teppi|work :-)
18:09 maholtz well, the caroussel with included content elements looks like coding:)
18:09 teppi|work Denyerec, i can send you the code if you want
18:09 teppi|work maybe its helpful
18:10 skurfuerst hey
18:12 Celestar hm
18:12 Celestar is there a way to remove a translation completely?
18:12 Denyerec please
18:12 Denyerec (obscured mail address)
18:12 Denyerec that'd be awesome
18:21 teppi|work Denyerec, you should have a mail ;-) ..
18:22 Denyerec thanks nan
18:22 Denyerec man
18:25 Celestar there is a way
18:25 Celestar DELETE FROM sys_language WHERE ... :P
18:25 teppi|work Denyerec, erm I forgot the template .. i sent you another mail
18:26 Denyerec hehe thanks man
18:26 teppi|work np
18:27 skipjack Hello
18:28 Celestar stupid GUI, I'm slowly getting faster with mySQL CLI :P
18:32 skipjack I have here an Teaser text, after I click on the "more" link I will see the whole Article. But I know only a way to create 2 Pages. One for Teaser and one for the whole article. But I think it should be possible without an second page for full view. Knows someone an way or has an tip?
18:34 Celestar what can't I get this translations to work :S
18:37 skipjack Is there an way to say: For the 3 Level in my TYPO3 Projekt this typoscript is used. ( I don't want to create for every subpage in the 3 Level an +ext Typoscrpt template. )
18:38 skurfuerst skipjack: yep, there is a "level" TypoScript condition
18:38 Denyerec Mmm.
18:38 Denyerec Tuna.
18:39 skipjack skurfuerst: okay can you say me exactly? example? or an Link ? http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.2.0/view/
18:39 Celestar what EXACTLY happens when I add the &L=1 to a link
18:39 Celestar I mean a new page title needs to be loaded as well for example
18:39 skurfuerst skipjack: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.2.0/view/1/4/ search for treeLevel
18:39 skipjack Celestar: this is for Language.
18:40 skipjack skurfuerst: thanks ;))
18:40 Celestar skipjack: yeah which I'm not getting to work, hence I try to under what is going on ;)
18:40 Celestar understand*
18:40 skipjack unstand what Typo3 does?
18:41 Celestar yeah
18:41 skipjack hmm
18:41 Celestar or fix the problem (=
18:42 skipjack difficult, but you can use PHP with xdebug
18:42 skipjack xdebug with xdebug remote and eclipse
18:43 skipjack but Celestar what are you doing?
18:43 skipjack what is the problem?
18:44 Celestar I've added a second language and a language menu. the menu is shown correctly and has the correct links. however, the language is not changed when using the links
18:44 skipjack what says typo3 ?
18:44 skipjack is there an error message like missing page ?
18:44 Celestar nope
18:44 Celestar I just get the default language
18:45 timdeluxe do you have the needed typoscript?
18:45 Celestar what is needed except the linkVars ?
18:46 teppi|work skipjack, we realize teaserviews like this with typoscript and HMENUs
18:47 timdeluxe Celestar: look here (very old) http://typo3.org/documentation/tips-tricks/multi-language-sites-in-typo3/
18:47 teppi|work so no second page is needed
18:47 teppi|work and the data is selected from the page
18:47 timdeluxe or here http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_l10nguide/1.0.0/view/
18:47 Celestar timdeluxe: yeah, I have the doc open.
18:48 skipjack teppi|work: hmm okay, is an idea.
18:48 timdeluxe you need a globalVar section which changes at least the sys_language_uid
18:48 skipjack good idea
18:49 skipjack but I have here an Ext.
18:49 skipjack the second page / whole article is an Image
18:49 teppi|work Oo
18:50 skipjack and the teaser is Text / or Image ;9
18:50 skipjack hehe
18:50 skipjack Not my Idea ;)
18:50 skipjack Not directly ;*g*
18:50 skipjack but so I think, I can only do anythink with javascript/Ajax
18:50 skipjack anything ^
18:51 skipjack or any other idea?
18:51 Celestar YAY!
18:52 Celestar can I somehow add the current language to all links in the main menu?
18:53 Celestar so that I don't switch to the default language every time I change the page?
18:53 teppi|work Celestar, add the L-param to config.linkVars
18:53 teppi|work skipjack, i just dont really get what you wanna do :-(
18:53 skipjack Celestar: http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//65143/
18:54 Celestar yeah I have it there.
18:54 Celestar checking link skipjack
18:55 skipjack teppi|work: okay, I have writen an PDFviewer. I creating form an PDF an Image. But the Whole Image is first visibile if the User has logged in and when I clicked the more link in the teaser view.
18:55 Celestar skipjack: how is that relevant? ;)
18:55 skipjack But I don't want to create an new page for teaser view and whole Article Image
18:55 skipjack Celestar: there are much Menues
18:56 skipjack Celestar: I think you don't need an special Option for Multilingual Menue
18:56 Celestar I don't have a problem with menus ;)
18:57 teppi|work if the L-Param was added to the linkvars it should stay as long as you change it back to another language
18:57 Celestar teppi|work: yeah and it does. Provided I write linkVars and not LinkVars O_o
18:57 teppi|work :p
18:59 teppi|work skipjack, sry I still dont get it .. i dont know when the full article should be shown and when not
19:00 Celestar IT WORKS :D
19:02 skipjack the whole article Should be shown, when [User Logged in] and [clicked on "more.."-Link].
19:02 skipjack the "more.."-Link should not link to an new Page. It should show the whole Article on the same Page as the Teaser.
19:03 skipjack I think I should create for Teaser view an new <form>.. and when this is "submited" and user Logged in I will reload the page with showing the Whole Article
19:04 skipjack get it?
19:04 teppi|work yep
19:05 skipjack okay, or do you know an better idea?
19:05 teppi|work but this is not possible with typo3 standard i'm afraid
19:05 skipjack hmm
19:06 skipjack hmm it's tricky because I must save the Info that he has clicked on "more.."
19:06 skipjack I can create an session cookie
19:07 skipjack but that's not so nice. I think
19:07 teppi|work ah .. maybe you could
19:07 teppi|work select the content from different columns
19:07 teppi|work depending on the type or something like that
19:07 teppi|work but ..
19:07 teppi|work i would write an extension :p
19:08 skipjack yes I write an ext. but who can I create this?
19:08 skipjack like an <form> for teaser, checking if submit is clicked and then when clicked showing the samepage but with full view?
19:09 teppi|work why a form?
19:09 teppi|work a simple GET-Param should be enough
19:09 teppi|work ?viewmode=full for instance
19:09 skipjack okay yes, because form give me an Get
19:09 skipjack hm okay
19:09 skipjack that's good / better
19:10 skipjack because then I have no Problems with showing next pages
19:10 skipjack thanks1
19:10 skipjack that is it!
19:10 Celestar only a cosmetic question: I'm creating a TMENU. I'm creating a list with a .wrap = <ul>|</ul>. Is there any way to prevent creating an empty list should the menu have no items?
19:10 skipjack back to eclipse.
19:10 skipjack hehe I must get this work finish till Thursday. *g*
19:11 Celestar I wish TS would understand \n :P
19:11 skipjack hehe Celestar TS is not soo hard. But yyou need this Link ;) http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.2.0/view/
19:14 Celestar I agree with it not being hard
19:15 Celestar I just dunno how to translate "if (menu.count == 0)" into TS yet :P
19:15 skipjack oem?
19:15 skipjack you mean if the menue has no pages?
19:15 skipjack no subpages?
19:15 Celestar of the menu has no items
19:16 Celestar s/of/if/
19:21 skipjack hm
19:21 skipjack I don't get it Celestar
19:21 Celestar k lemme paste it
19:22 Celestar I have this menu http://paste.phlogi.net/-71821a66de/
19:23 Celestar I'd like this code to do NOTHING if there's no menu to display (i.e. the tree at level 1 is empty)
19:42 Jahithber when typo3 is build for a static page and cached to max it will be using many system resources?? i mean memory and processor?
20:03 m4rtijn hi
20:03 m4rtijn anyone here with a bit more css knowledge ? :p
20:03 m4rtijn somehow i never get answers from #css
20:05 Celestar hrhr
20:19 Jahithber because
20:19 Jahithber #css channel sucks
20:20 Jahithber they think they are the smartest people on freenode
20:21 Jahithber i asked there few times and they never help
20:27 skipjack hm
20:27 skipjack say sayed nothing?
20:27 skipjack or they sayed somthing?
21:22 Denyerec hahaha
21:22 Denyerec you think #css is bad?
21:22 Denyerec Try #php
21:22 Denyerec :)
21:22 Denyerec Gah where did m4rtin go... css is the one thing I CAN do
21:55 Jahithber damn its not so easy to adjust the TT_NEWS display style :)
22:19 Jahithber if have problem with tt_news
22:19 Jahithber i see news on my page but when i click more happends nothing :/
22:20 Jahithber http://antwerpia.be/index.php?id=13
22:36 nd__ Well, got another question
22:36 nd__ Having this menu, http://pastebin.com/d732ca4db I wonder if it's possible to say `if there's no subpage, hence no menu, display a graphic here` in TS somehow?
22:53 skipjack grml .. rounded Corners .. my customer has ideas ..
23:06 timdeluxe skipjack: web 2.0 ;)
23:06 timdeluxe @all watch the newest podcast, very funny :D
23:10 skipjack hehe ;)
23:10 skipjack new Podcast?
23:10 skipjack hmm I will see
23:10 skipjack I don't like the Podcasts
23:11 skipjack too much Kasper's live.
23:14 timdeluxe nono
23:14 timdeluxe the last times really not
23:21 skurfuerst skipjack: the last many podcasts it was quite dev oriented, wasn't it`:)
23:22 timdeluxe skipjack: for example you can see skurfuerst in the last ones ;D
23:23 skurfuerst lol ;)
23:27 skipjack hm yes
23:27 skipjack sometimes many Podcast are very strange
23:37 skurfuerst skipjack: some of the podcasts are only funny if you were there ;)
23:37 nd__ These are the ones sponsored by people?
23:40 skurfuerst what do you mean?
23:42 nd__ Kasper wrote several emails about sponsoring podcasts... these are ones you're talking about?
23:43 nd__ Gna, tt_news drives me nuts... LATEST works fine, LIST not at all
23:48 skurfuerst good night
23:48 nd__ Good night
23:57 mquintus good night

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