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00:02 tomsdale yeah, modern skin is nice - but dropdown lists are sort of transparent on my system.
01:07 Provito interesting in 4.2.2 headerdata is now headerData
01:07 Provito page.headerdata I'm referring to
07:27 FloLeBlanc hi all
09:00 FloLeBlanc hi maholtz
09:00 FloLeBlanc when trying to access direct_mail I only get a blank page and the folder which should contain the mails in the tree view. I have another installation of t3 on the server (4.0.X - this one is 4.1.X) and it works fine - any clues?
09:02 FloLeBlanc ah nvm... got a php error
09:04 FloLeBlanc it seems that direct_mail 2.5.4 also requires PHP5, allthough the log says it requires php5 since version 2.6... does anyone know WHAT version works with php4?
09:06 FloLeBlanc lol great.. there's an entry in the bugtracker that says that the description of 2.5.4 is wrong and the solution is: upgrade to php5... *grumble*
09:17 _pedda_ hi all
09:22 FloLeBlanc hi pedda
09:35 maholtz|WORK @FloeLeBlanc: try to upgrade to php5 afaik that is possible in apache on vhost base ... php4 is not maintained anymore
09:36 maholtz|WORK perhaps it is the easier solution...
09:38 FloLeBlanc maholtz: this is a remote server, I can't upgrade :) but I "fixed" it by using 2.5.3
09:43 cdngfrog Will it be enough to fullQuoteStr() my input to be "save"? I guess I still have to do a htmlentities() on output?
09:52 FloLeBlanc cdnfrog: if you write own extension consider reading the guideline for creating extensions. it is described which typo3 native functions should be used
10:03 rw-HedDi halo everybody ...
10:03 rw-HedDi can anyone help me with JSMENU ?
10:05 rw-HedDi how to make the item selected ?
10:05 maholtz|WORK @rw-HedDi: put your typoscript in pastebin and post pastebin url here, perhaps someone can help then
10:05 cdngfrog FloLeBlanc: thanks, will do that
10:05 maholtz|WORK @cdngfrog: htmlSpecialChars() to output, fullQuoteStr for SQL-Input, yep
10:06 rw-HedDi http://pastebin.com/m34745707
10:06 rw-HedDi :)
10:13 FloLeBlanc rw-HedDi: http://www.phlogi.net/fresh/t3/tspastebin/showPost/-0dbcfe1f4c/ => I use this code
10:13 FloLeBlanc but JSMENU may be better, never tried it to be honest
10:14 rw-HedDi ok thx.. will try it..
10:21 rw-HedDi the active page still not selected ..
10:31 FloLeBlanc rw-HedDi: oh sorry I misunderstood the question, this menu is not for highlighting selected pages
10:33 rw-HedDi yes
10:34 rw-HedDi :)
10:35 FloLeBlanc did you check TSREF if there is an ACT state like for "normal" menus?
10:36 Philiptypo3dk Hello .... I've created a user for my backend, which ain't "admin". I've gave the user access rights to Web->Page, that's it. He can rename blabla .. then I test with loggin in on the new user. I can't see the pages from the tree?
10:37 rw-HedDi just found showActive = > if set, the active level will be selected, if present
10:37 Philiptypo3dk Is it supposed to have rights to see "File-> * " ?
10:37 teppi|work Philiptypo3dk, have a look for the access module .. you can set an access level for every single page
10:38 teppi|work maybe all pages are just visible for the admin
10:38 Philiptypo3dk Under access, I can only set "start & stop"
10:39 Philiptypo3dk Under "Access rights" I can set which modules it can see when logged it. That works great. But, there's nothing to see fx. under "Web -> Page" when logged in on that account.
10:40 teppi|work Philiptypo3dk, i mean that menue point in the left menuebar
10:40 teppi|work with the lock before it
10:40 teppi|work there you can set access rights for the whole page tree at once
10:40 teppi|work and so on
10:40 Philiptypo3dk I'll see ..
10:42 Philiptypo3dk Hmm...
10:43 Philiptypo3dk I can only change owner.
10:43 Philiptypo3dk Can't add a user? Or?
10:44 Philiptypo3dk Should i grant "everybody" , the acces i want , that would set permission to none admin users?
10:45 teppi|work normally we set the access rights un usergroup level
10:45 teppi|work on
10:45 Philiptypo3dk ok
10:48 Philiptypo3dk Ffs ... won't work!
10:49 Philiptypo3dk I made "granted access" for the sites the new user should be able to view, edit.. doesn't work.
10:55 Philiptypo3dk Created new group, set the rights. Set the user as member of the group. Still, can't see shit. Clear cache, would that help ?? :S
11:09 Philiptypo3dk Help?
11:12 maholtz|WORK @Philiptypo3dk: i do not relly understand what you did - did you checked what teppi told you?
11:13 Philiptypo3dk Yep
11:13 lilalinux Is it bad idea to use the same page that the powermail form is at, as storage for the mails?
11:14 Philiptypo3dk I made a new group, gave it rights etc. Assigned the new user to the new group. It should be able to see the page lists, page content etc.. But can't see none, other than the modules I've given it rights too.
11:17 maholtz|WORK the user can sees modules on the left? can see page tree?
11:20 rw-HedDi FloLeBlanc : current page selected is working now.. thx for your snippet.. :)
11:20 rw-HedDi http://pastebin.com/m606b7a32
11:20 maholtz|WORK @lilalinux: you will find the mails which was send from that formular on the same page, so imho it is a good solution
11:22 lilalinux maholtz|WORK: and no security risk?
11:22 maholtz|WORK i hope not - how could it be a risk?
11:24 lilalinux I don't know :-)
11:24 lilalinux that's why i ask ;-)
11:24 Philiptypo3dk Can't see the page tree
11:25 lilalinux How do I specify custom values for the <option>s of a <select> in powermail?
11:25 maholtz|WORK @Philiptypo3dk: so add db-mount to your group
11:28 lilalinux got it
11:28 _pedda_ can someone give me a hint how to access the height of 30.10. ?
11:28 _pedda_ http://www.phlogi.net/fresh/t3/tspastebin/showPost/-a4312cc2fa/
11:28 _pedda_ 10 creates a shape for being blurred -> dropshadow
11:28 _pedda_ but i can't access the height of the imported image
11:29 Philiptypo3dk Mounted the frontpage ... still can't see the tree
11:29 _pedda_ or i can't figure it out at least
11:29 _pedda_ Philiptypo3dk: did you check the access of the pages ?
11:29 Philiptypo3dk yea
11:29 _pedda_ via Web -> Access ?
11:30 Philiptypo3dk yep
11:30 _pedda_ k
11:30 Philiptypo3dk All set, except for deleting pages.
11:30 Philiptypo3dk For the new group, which contains the new users I've created.
11:30 Philiptypo3dk When I log in with the user, i go to Web -> Page. And see nothing
11:30 maholtz|WORK @Philiptypo3dk: perhaps you could make some screenshots... it is very difficult to understand what could going wrong there
11:31 _pedda_ that's exactly what i was typing.. @ maholtz|WORK
11:31 maholtz|WORK hehe
11:32 _pedda_ ii assume that the rights aren't set properly (web -> access)
11:32 maholtz|WORK +1
11:33 Philiptypo3dk Blah... Still no luck
11:33 _pedda_ maholtz|WORK: can you help me out with the dynamic height of 10. ?
11:33 _pedda_ http://www.phlogi.net/fresh/t3/tspastebin/showPost/-a4312cc2fa/
11:34 _pedda_ i need the height of 30. in 10.
11:34 _pedda_ but 30.h didn#t work
11:38 Philiptypo3dk Now it works. Instead of mouting the DB to the group, I mounted it the the user.
11:38 Philiptypo3dk gg
11:39 Philiptypo3dk ty all
12:38 animan hey. does anyone know i can i get GM to work instead of IM? At the moment it passes some image tests and shows no results in others. what could be wrong?
12:38 tomi a bit of a problem embedding/adding flash video player , anyone got any experience?
12:39 animan incompatible GM / Typo3 versions?
12:46 HardPhuck a small non typo3 question, if i use a web shop, who do i need to contact to review my forms for safety
12:51 maholtz|WORK @tomi: use an extension for that
12:51 maholtz|WORK ups
12:57 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: you want to pay for that? you could ask the security guys from TYPO3 or search for "secuity audit"
12:57 lilalinux I would like to include a custom javascript for use in a powermail form
12:58 lilalinux how do I set onchange for powermail fields?
13:11 HardPhuck maholtz|WORK: thanx
13:11 HardPhuck i'll pay if i have to get the stamp "secure" :(
13:11 HardPhuck :)
13:12 HardPhuck but this is not a typo3 site, so i cant ask guys from T3
13:12 maholtz|WORK well, you can
13:12 maholtz|WORK try
13:12 maholtz|WORK :)
13:12 HardPhuck :)
13:13 maholtz|WORK but if you use an system which has an security team too, i would ask them of course
13:14 HardPhuck hmm, this is my first project with that system, so i really need to dig some more :)
13:39 FloLeBlanc HardPhuck: I hope for you it is not oscommerce :)
13:39 HardPhuck no, cakephp
13:40 HardPhuck ddqfdsfsdfsdfsdfsdf
13:40 HardPhuck ah crap :)
13:48 _pedda_ any idea why my gifbuilderrendered jpg's look that ugly ? i have quality 100 set, but it looks like a gif
13:52 lilalinux maholtz|WORK: is there any risk of exposing the user entered data if the storage page is the same as the form is at, and indexed search is used?
13:55 maholtz|WORK well, indexed search only reads content which is delivered to the user, so internal data will not be indexed
14:03 lilalinux thx
14:24 animan does anyone know how can i get GM to work instead of IM? At the moment it passes some image tests and shows no results in others from Install Tool. Incompatible Typo3 / GM versions?
14:29 lilalinux I have a powermail form with selects. I use custom ids for it's options - so that I can process it more easily with js - but in the end want to be mailed the fulltexts (instead of the ids).
14:29 lilalinux any idea?
15:03 FloLeBlanc hmm can anyone tell me how I would put an image besides an input field in powermail?
15:15 FloLeBlanc hi ries
15:19 Denyerec Mmm
15:19 Denyerec Not too familiar with powermail templates
15:20 Denyerec but if it uses html templates, then just hit it with a CSS stick?
15:22 FloLeBlanc denyerec: this should be a form to request an offering for goods - so I'd like to have something like <imageofdenyerecsgreatcookies> Denyerecsgreatcookies EUR 0,99 <inputfieldnumberofcookies>
15:22 ries Hey FloLeBlanc
15:27 Denyerec Mmmm
15:27 Denyerec Cookies
15:27 FloLeBlanc :)
15:33 rw-HedDi FloLeBlanc: does the image dynamic ?
15:36 FloLeBlanc rw-HedDi: no
15:38 rw-HedDi may be u can use typoscript fieldtype
15:39 rw-HedDi http://pastebin.com/m5c1c0908
15:40 rw-HedDi i hope that's what you needed .. :)
15:41 FloLeBlanc rw-HedDi: well the problem is how to get it there in the template :)
15:45 rw-HedDi :)
16:02 ries Denyerec: you are the style/design/color master here... what color profile can I use for on the web?? sRGB IEC61966-2.1 ???
16:02 ries or do the images HAVE to be in RGB without a color profile?
16:02 Denyerec Tough one
16:02 Denyerec if it's design stuff, then no profile
16:02 Denyerec else you will go loopy when you mix JPG and GIF
16:04 Denyerec if it's a photograph then you can attach a profile
16:04 Denyerec and people with profiled browsers and decent screens will see it as you intended
16:04 Denyerec people with IE, or crappy unprofiled monitors, well they can't be helped
16:05 ries I currently got a sliced design back that looks quite different in colors
16:05 ries The original was nice and warm, the sliced up version looks much more cold...
16:05 Denyerec Can you send me a zip of both ?
16:05 ries png can also handle color profiles, right?
16:05 Denyerec I can take a look and see what's gone wrong.
16:06 Denyerec I think they can, BUT, potentially only 24 bit pngs and potentially only in some browsers
16:06 Denyerec when it comes to the actual *design* rather than photo content, you are best not using any profiles at all to be safe.
16:06 Denyerec (But this of course means you need to design in PS with your proof target set to Monitor RGB so it looks the same as your browser)
16:06 ries so how is a image with color profile properly converted to a image without a color profile ?? I mean... the image as we had approved and the website we got looks different
16:07 Denyerec Well
16:07 Denyerec when you view it in PS by default, it's pushing the image into sRGB typically, or whatever your working space is
16:07 Denyerec so it'll look different in there to when it appears on your own desktop.
16:07 ries At least different enough to raise eyebrow or two :D
16:08 Denyerec Depends on the colours used too
16:08 Denyerec reddish colours and blues get hit the hardest
16:08 ries even teh gray colors are changed here...
16:08 Denyerec They probably have some red in
16:08 ries The sliced up version looks much more cold then the image we got as a mockup, that was a JPG with embedded color profile
16:08 Denyerec if you assign a profile to something that doesn't have one and then show it in PS, it'll look very different in an unprofiled brwoser
16:10 ries Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
16:11 ries I wonder how I can solve it in this case.....
16:14 _pedda_ hmm the person where you got your template sliced by made a mistake
16:14 _pedda_ he/she should slice it again without converting your template from one profile to another
16:15 _pedda_ if you open your original template file (the warm one)
16:15 _pedda_ you can check which color profile is used
16:17 _pedda_ image -> mode -> assign profile (or add profile) in my photoshop cs version
16:18 _pedda_ i'm not sure, but in the newer versions it is placed somwhere else..
16:18 Denyerec ries
16:19 Denyerec when viewed on an unprofiled app it looks more vivid than when you preview in sRGB
16:19 Denyerec so either strip the colour profiles
16:19 Denyerec or assign a more vivid profile (Such as your monitors), however that's a not recommended can of worms
16:25 _pedda_ i wouldn't do that
16:27 _pedda_ if the slices are done by someone different (and eventually he got paid for it) he should fix it (slice the original file again) without adding any own profiles (he should take care of), he has "damaged" the template-file so to speak
16:28 _pedda_ another option is trying to get the colors look similar to the one of the oribinal template file via rotuouching
16:28 _pedda_ *original
17:05 ries _pedda_: I agree... I just asked him to get my warm colors back... I will let him solve the problem for me
17:05 _pedda_ :-)
17:05 _pedda_ ok
17:05 ries Denyerec: thanks for taking a second look... I wasn't 100% sure (just near 100% :) )
17:38 mani_ hi, i have to not only create datasets in the typo3 mysql db but olso in an mssql db. Now my question, is there a clean solution within php (on unix) to create mssql_guid's ? Or would it be safer to have that done by a win32 sysmten thats able to do the guid sys call? thx
17:39 mani_ so far i have just found a few solutions that produce guids that dont look like the ones i got when importing the data into mysql
17:43 rabbit7 anyone knows a irc chat extension for typo3 ?
17:47 _pedda_ cu all
18:10 ries THis is why we hate TYPO3 so much : http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=remove+p+tag+frame+table+htmlarea&d=76151446897556&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=226b69a2,58951c2d
18:10 ries But at the same time we love it for each features
18:11 ries mani_: doesn't mssql provide a stored procedure to generate a guid/uuid??
18:14 mani_ ries hm maybe, i thougt of, inserting the data in mssql first and then retrieve it directly to insert in mysql ... damn guid's ...
18:15 ries mani_: so you need to have data replicated between mssql and mysql??
18:15 mani_ yes
18:16 ries why do you need a uuid if I may ask??
18:16 mani_ i have looked into wfqbe at first, but failed as the guid are not stored as strings but as binary
18:16 mani_ i replicate users that are stored in the mssql
18:16 mani_ make them fe_users
18:17 mani_ and then i have a list of orders, which the users should be able to see on the typo3 page
18:17 mani_ and to get the right orders, i need the guid, and if the place an order i have to create one (a guid, which is just the unique id of the order)
18:17 mani_ i did not designed the mssql datamodell thoug :p
18:18 ries so you only need to replicate the fe_users?
18:18 mani_ not only
18:18 mani_ users, orders and complaints
18:19 mani_ and orders ad complaints belong to a user each
18:19 ries for the fe_users I would use some for of a SSO system
18:19 ries for the orders and complains I think I would take DBAL
18:19 mani_ SSO ?
18:19 ries you are writing an extension to display/manage complains and orders?
18:19 ries Single Sign On
18:20 mani_ yes
18:20 ries then yeaa... SSO to login the user and get user info... and DBAL to get access to the remote tables
18:20 ries Hey Mr happy Houmark :)
18:21 mani_ damn, good i wanted to get done last week :p
18:21 ries mani_: it's always like that :)
18:21 mani_ ok i dont se how the implement SSO for logins, where would i have to hack into ?
18:21 ries you don't need to hack it...
18:23 ries mani_: I took ldap_auth one day to see how I could implement it... then I re-wrote my SSO system to allow auth using get/post paremeters...
18:23 ries Something like that you can do with your mssql db
18:24 mani_ the dbal in extension is last updated 2006 ? is this the "current" version ?
18:24 mani_ http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/dbal
18:24 mani_ damn, maybe it was not the best "first extension" to write ...
18:25 ries mani_: it comes with TYPO3
18:26 ries so don't use DBAL from TER
18:26 mani_ ries, users should be able to register with typo3. and these users should then be written to mssql too, could this be done with your approach too ?
18:26 mani_ but, i maybe can convince the CRM Developer (the one wo uses mssql) to collect the users from me...
18:27 ries mani_: you properly do want to setup some sort of sync back to your mssql DB... it depends a bit how your user table looks like in mssql and what your privileges are it's hard for me to advice on specifics
18:27 ries if teh CRM never creates users, then this is a option
18:27 ries provide him with a view and you are all set
18:27 mani_ well, yes. thanks inyway. lloks like i do a nightshift today :)
18:28 mani_ off for dinner, thx again.
18:28 Houmark he he, hey Ries ;)
18:29 Houmark yeah, it seems to be pretty smooth now... took a long time though...
18:29 ries Houmark: I did hear the pulled through 2AM.....
18:29 Houmark nah, we stopped 11.30 pm i think
18:29 Houmark at least around that time we went home...
18:30 Houmark then the next morning it was all ready and set for oils and stuff
18:30 Houmark started up the first time ;)
18:31 ries Houmark: glad to hear that
18:32 Houmark yeah, sorry to take your "appointment" - only sunday i understood you were supposed to work there
18:32 Houmark i wanted to take it somewhere else, but he insisted to take it home to their garage...
18:33 ries Houmark: not a problem....
18:34 Houmark and actually i am very happy we did... it worked out really well
18:34 ries good good...
18:53 dokma /j #openbravo
19:10 ralze hi! I'm looking for a way to export typo3 websites to static html files. I imagine an extension, that is doing all kind of fancy footwork to kind of simulate the typo3 website...
19:11 ralze all of the websites in question could "easily" be realised in plain html/css
19:13 ralze the purpose of that: I want to be able to look - and show off :D - the sites, without the need of the typo3 installation, they are running on right now.
19:19 pulponair is it possible to load custom js/css from within a tca userfunction?
21:07 mani__ hi, i installed DBAL from my extension manager, but instead of working i now get a 500 Error on front and backend. i guess this is not what is supposed to happen? using 4.2.6 how could i manually "unload" dbal again?
21:15 schmidtma hi, i have installed DBAL from extension manager. but now, i get a 500 Error on front and backend. Do i have to add the default MySQL to localconf.php too, to get the site working again ?
21:21 timdeluxe schmidtma: try to remove it from $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['EXT']['extList'] in typo3conf/localconf.php
21:22 timdeluxe and edit the latest one, cause the line could be there several times
21:24 schmidtma did not help. i got this in my http log: PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function admin_get_charsets() on a non-object in /usr/local/www/vhosts/biregs.de/typo3_src-4.2.6/t3lib/class.t3lib_install.php on line 456
21:25 schmidtma did i miss something crucial ? or is installing it from extension manager working normally?
21:26 timdeluxe sorry cant help you, never used dbal
21:26 timdeluxe do you want to use a other DB than mysql?
21:28 schmidtma i want to use mysql for the page itself and access another db using dbal
21:29 timdeluxe ah ok, i see
21:38 Gorgone Hello
21:39 Gorgone can i ask a question to typo3 plugins
21:41 schmidtma timdelux i have remoived it from localconf.php but its still present in temp_CACHED_psbf45_ext_localconf.php is this file regenerated when i delete it ?
21:41 lommes yep
21:41 Gorgone :-(
21:41 lommes thats just a cached version of the old localconf
21:41 Gorgone i have some truble wit the pjirc plugin
21:42 lommes you may delete the cached one safelt
21:42 lommes safely*
21:42 schmidtma aaaah , thank you lord!
21:42 lommes what kind of problem?
21:43 schmidtma i hosed the whole system
21:43 schmidtma but its working now again 8)
21:43 schmidtma i guess
21:43 lommes you can remove all the temp_* files without crying afterwards ;)
21:43 timdeluxe i should have mentioned that, sorry
21:43 schmidtma well, as i had fear sweat all over my body for the last minutes i now definetly learned that lesson 8)
21:44 lommes hehe
21:44 timdeluxe try it in a non live environment
21:45 lommes oO that pjirc is last updated 12.12.2005?
21:46 Gorgone yes i want to put a support irc channel to my page
21:46 Gorgone but i get allways a yellow exclamation
21:48 Gorgone is there a other solution ? for an irc can ?
21:48 Gorgone channel
21:49 lommes hmm i don't know a typo3 one but maybe mibbit widget but i guess thats with iframe
21:49 lommes or maybe you customize cgiirc
21:50 Gorgone cgiirc ? is tthis in plugins selectable ?
21:50 lommes no
21:52 Gorgone have u a link to it ?
21:52 lommes http://cgiirc.sf.net
21:54 Gorgone thank u i will take a look
21:54 lommes oO
21:55 lommes he really needs to take a look at cgiirc? don't think so
21:56 timdeluxe hrhr
21:56 timdeluxe yes it is quite funny
22:01 Torsten_ Hi all
22:01 lommes hi
22:02 Torsten_ Is this the chan for Typo3 experts? :)
22:03 lommes or those who pretend to be like me ;)
22:04 Torsten_ I was wondering if it was possible to create a site by using Typo3 that can search or index by drop down menus. Like this one www.jobs.net
22:05 Torsten_ I want to make a site for my firm where my co workers can search for skills amongst other in the company if they need help
22:05 Torsten_ So i need to make a couple of drop down menus so they can click that they etc need a person with skills in building schools :)
22:19 Torsten_ lommes > Do you know if that is possible?
22:47 shibbi moin moin. hat mal jemand 10 Minuten um mir bei einem Problem zu helfen?
22:49 lommes depends on the problem
22:51 shibbi I have a menu and I want that the active side is yellow and not white the other links
22:51 shibbi sry for bad english
22:52 shibbi if the side "welcome" is active the menu-point is yellow, not the side
22:53 lommes GMENU?
22:54 lommes if not you should wrap a css class for the active menu and change design via css
22:54 shibbi TMENU wrapped in a HMENU
22:55 lommes only .NO defined so far?
22:56 shibbi HMENU with a special= directory. Then a TMENU with NO.allwrap=<li>|</li>
22:56 lommes ok
22:56 lommes same goes for the active menu
22:56 lommes something like
22:56 lommes .ACT =1
22:57 lommes .ACT < NO
22:57 lommes then you may wrap class="active"
22:59 shibbi ok, thanks, I will try

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