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00:06 Povoryak hello people
00:06 Povoryak I From Russia
00:16 Povoryak Hardly found your server, it is simply desirable to associate with other people
01:22 Povoryak ÷òî âñå ìîë÷àò?
01:22 Povoryak íàïèøèòå ìíå â ïðèâàò
01:24 ries Povoryak: can you please stop spamming the channel?
01:24 ries we are not russian and we cannot read russian... at least most of us
01:24 Povoryak what?
01:24 Povoryak I from Russia
01:24 ries you where sending links to mp3xa.net for example...
01:25 Povoryak what?
01:25 Povoryak I not spamming
01:42 void Povoryak: join #typo3-ru if you don't speak english
01:42 Povoryak To me and here normally
01:43 Povoryak I want socializing with foreigners
01:43 void Povoryak: horosho. togda postaraisya ne pugat' ostalnyh svoim ongliyskim =)
01:44 Povoryak =)
01:44 Povoryak da ya ne o4en` znaju angliyskiy
01:44 void Povoryak: I see
01:45 Povoryak And you that from Russia that?
01:45 void Povoryak: yes, I am
01:45 Povoryak I live in St Peterburg
01:45 Povoryak And You?
01:45 void Penza
01:46 Povoryak Did not expect to find here Russian =)
01:47 Povoryak And do you understand English well?
01:48 void Povoryak: well enough... I have been staying here for ~3 year or so
01:49 Povoryak Did you here learn English?
01:51 void Povoryak: hm.. yes, partly. but that channel was not the only source of knowledge.
01:53 mgleahy Hello...does anyone know if Typo3 can be installed with PostgreSQL instead of MySQL?
01:53 Povoryak All is clear =) I teach English only from a fifth class, and now I in 11
01:54 void mgleahy: probably yes (with DBAL). at least the core would work. but nobody knows which extensions would and which would not
01:54 mgleahy what's DBAL?
01:55 void mgleahy: database abstraction layer, the core extension of typo3. read the wiki about it
01:55 Povoryak I so wanted socializing with foreigners, here I here and called =)
01:56 mgleahy Ok, thanks.
01:56 void Povoryak: if you want just to learn english by talking with strangers, use omegle.com. this is a support channel of typo3 cms and have particular purpose
01:56 Povoryak void I so wanted socializing with foreigners, here I here and called =)
01:57 Povoryak And what purpose does a channel have?
01:58 void Povoryak: to help people install and learn TYPO3 and troubleshoot problems. read the topic.
01:59 Povoryak ok
02:00 Povoryak That found in the internet, there I and called, but I write in privat, but not on a channel
02:01 ries Povoryak: ususally it's best to talk on the channel... only talk private if a user requested
02:03 Povoryak Maybe, I do not know from what for me vobsche appeared desire to associate with foreigners =)
02:03 Povoryak =)
02:04 Povoryak All right, I want to sleep, all good night
02:04 Povoryak By the way, are there yet ductings on this server?
02:12 ries Povoryak: if you have that desire, then just chat on teh channel
02:21 ries hey gerards
02:41 Povoryak All good Night
03:02 mgleahy Hey all...I'm poking through the documents, and I can't seem to find anything that explains how to setup typ3 with dbal/postgresql.
03:02 mgleahy Can anyone point me to what I'm missing?
03:16 ries mgleahy: I have done that... but I got visitors right now
03:17 ries However, I can forward you a mail.... and you do need to checkout TYPO3 4.2 from SVN because recently there where some patches
03:17 ries I can send you my localconf.php and some instructions in mail
03:18 mgleahy That'd be awesome. My email is (obscured mail address)
03:20 mgleahy As an aside, generally how likely am I to run into incompatibility issues with not using MySQL? I'd not worry about it if MySQL didn't require >100MB just to start the service, and my VPS only has 128MB.
03:26 ries mgleahy: I send you my localconf.php and a PDF document
03:26 ries the PDF as oracle as an example, but can be applied to PostgreSQL
03:26 mgleahy much appreciated...I'll see how I go with this.
03:26 ries if you replace the localconf.php with the one in the mail it should magically work (change parameters where needed)
03:27 mgleahy Ok, thanks.
03:27 ries You are likely running into some sort of trouble....
03:28 ries Like I said, take typo3 4.2 from SVN ... I think some patches are still pending for DBAL... but I could get it to run...
03:28 ries if you only have 128MB of RAM on your VPS, then I almost would day forget about running TYPO3 unless you accept to run everything slooow
03:28 ries Need to go to my visitors again
03:28 mgleahy Ok, thanks.
03:30 mgleahy Well, the PostgreSQL service only needs 21mb...everything else about the vps is pretty fast.
03:43 mgleahy ries (or anyone else), Unfortunately it seems that I'm getting A fatal error: Call to a member function admin_get_charsets() on a non object...
03:44 mgleahy Maybe the SVN version isn't working anymore.
05:15 mgleahy ries_away (and/or others): thanks for the follow-up (lost my connection earlier). I'm a bit closer after running the patch from that bug you pointed me to. This leads me to a new one: Query failed: ERROR: relation "fe_sessions" does not exist in /var/www/html/typo3_42svn/typo3/sysext/adodb/adodb/drivers/adodb-postgres7.inc.php on line 115
09:09 _pedda_ hi all
09:15 maholtz|WORK morning
09:51 _pedda_ moin maholtz|WORK
11:04 _pedda_ someone ever had to include nofollow for crawler for particular parts of pagetree ?
11:14 maholtz|WORK @_pedda_ you could include an ext-template or use typoscript conditions for that
11:14 _pedda_ hmm
11:15 _pedda_ not very editor friendly
11:16 maholtz|WORK if an editor should be able to do it - add an field or use an existing at pages, so your editor could use a checkbox. insert meta-tag based on that checkbox
11:18 _pedda_ hmm
11:18 _pedda_ i could combine it with no index
11:18 _pedda_ or is it no search ?
11:18 _pedda_ i think it is no search
11:18 _pedda_ if it's checked -> do that meta-tag
11:18 _pedda_ cool !
11:18 _pedda_ thx
11:36 FloLeBlanc hi all
11:36 _pedda_ hi
11:37 FloLeBlanc did anyone setup powermail with wt_spamshield? I installed both extensions, included the reference in the main template, included the TS Setup on the page with the form - still I don't see a honeypod tag (it is active in the extension configuration)
11:42 Rickard How do I grant a backend user permission to upload files into the Media->Files thingy? It's under the resources tab for all pages.
11:42 ceegee hello
11:42 Rickard I can't find a permission setting anywhere that seems to match.
11:43 ceegee I have a problem with integrating a php application into my typo3 site
11:44 ceegee I embedded it with content type script as usual, the first page of the application (a customer information system) loads in my typo3 site, with all borders and menus the site has
11:44 Rickard Nevermind. Found it :)
11:45 ceegee but when the php site loads another php page it loads it on a blank page
11:46 ceegee I want to embed the whole customer system into my typo3 site, not only the start page
11:46 ceegee but dont know how
11:55 Bluespuke hmmm
11:56 Bluespuke i have a strange bug in a powermail installation...
11:57 Bluespuke when i try to add a field the frame still white (grey with the original skin ;-)) and the page loads and loads...
11:57 Bluespuke someone has an idea what could this be?
11:57 Bluespuke i also checked the conflicts in the powermail manual...
12:07 maholtz|WORK date2cal=
12:07 maholtz|WORK ?
13:05 Bluespuke don't know what the problem was, i deactivated IRRE and it works just fine
13:12 MasterYin Hey Everyone
13:13 MasterYin I just changed some settings of my realURL and changed the .htm to .html, but now I got problems with google, because there all the .htl-Links are stored, how to redirect alls .htm requests to .html with htaccess?
13:14 MasterYin I'm sorry but I'm a real htaccess noob
13:20 atul_ any body has idea about config.sys_language_overlay ??
13:20 atul_ i m trying localization for a site but facing small issue
13:21 atul_ this seems to be the main thing
13:34 Denyerec HOw stable is 4.3 beta3
13:34 Denyerec Useable on a small production site?
13:47 d|v_work how can I add \n in TS?
13:47 d|v_work to this line: NO.allWrap = .... |<br />
13:48 d|v_work I want a newline in the HTML source
14:04 Denyerec any reason other than readability ?
14:04 Denyerec cos you could run the whole site through htmlTidy
14:04 Denyerec (Available as an extension)
14:08 MasterYin I just changed some settings of my realURL and changed the .htm to .html, but now I got problems with google, because there all the .htl-Links are stored, how to redirect alls .htm requests to .html with htaccess?
15:10 d|v_work Denyerec: found it... http://www.typo3-jack.net/5495-post3.html
16:02 pmk65 For those of you who haven't added yourself to Georg Ringer's TYPO3 Worldmap, Go to this URL and add your location! -> http://worldmap.rggooglemap.com/en.html ;)
16:04 Phlogi anyone has some information about the new typo3 website? Is it finally coming one day?
16:11 pmk65 Phlogi: I would rater have the core team fix some of the ancient bugs (4-5 years old bugs)
16:13 teppi|work pmk65, hehe nice map
16:13 teppi|work <- added
16:13 Phlogi pmk65: hmm maybe, but what about a modern TER? I really can't believe they still have the same old crap running on that ancient typo3.org... crazy!
16:13 Phlogi furthermore the ter is full of *** exts
16:14 Phlogi and no categories... grr
16:16 pmk65 true. TER sucks BIG time!!
16:18 Phlogi they _really_ need to change that as fast as possible.. for me this is first priority...
16:18 Phlogi a year ago I was told the new website will be there by end of the year
16:19 Phlogi hey those guys are all web masters, but the typo3.org page and ter is so ugly and broken, wtf
16:19 Phlogi I'm really losing interested in this, the manual (ts, or core api for example) is still broken as it was 3years ago..
16:22 moodaepo Phlogi how long have you been working with TYPO3 I presume > 3
16:22 Phlogi moodaepo: about 3 or 4 years I think...
16:22 Phlogi the documentation was always broken for me btw
16:23 moodaepo true but if I remember right it was because we moved to this site...I actually still miss the older site and esspecially the mailing list with annotations by people there was so much info we lost
16:25 Phlogi in my opinion typo3.org is just one big flaw atm
16:38 mcoca hello, I am using mm_forum and work right, I am using userfunction for the breadcrumb, and work but I have a problem, all the forum is show in one page, then the breadcrumb not update until I change page, how can I do for that the breadcrumb update every time that navigated for the forum?
16:55 crisb2010 hi
16:56 crisb2010 i a currently trying to search the backend for news entries from a special FEUser, unfortunately the search doesn't display any results. does anyone have a clue how i can get the search to search for other things than the title?
16:59 _pedda_ in list view you cen specify which field should be listed
16:59 _pedda_ go to Web -> List -> sysfolder containing news records
16:59 _pedda_ -> select the table with the news records -> set field: author
16:59 crisb2010 i think i already did that, the email address (which is the FEUser login) is listed
17:01 _pedda_ if you click the field's name at the top of the listed records on the right.. they get sorted alphabetically respecting the email-adresses/author names
17:01 crisb2010 i guess that will do the job also, thanks
17:02 _pedda_ np yw
17:09 mcoca someone with a tip??
17:10 nd__ When are images in typo3temp regenerated? If I delete one manually and flush caches, it doesn't get regenerated...
17:30 litzinger If I have an HMENU defined, and there are no pages (no children pages) to render, how do I hide the parent <div> that holds the menu?
17:33 jbaptiste_j ACTIFSUB ?
17:34 jbaptiste_j you know ACT CUR NO
17:34 jbaptiste_j there is also an ACTIFSUB
17:34 jbaptiste_j see what I mean ?
17:34 _pedda_ cu all
17:35 jbaptiste_j see you
17:42 litzinger is there a GMENU or TMENU 'count' method to count how many links are found?
17:44 ries lilalinux: it doesn't belong to the menu, but there is a counter available... I think google does have some links about that
17:47 Jahithber what operating system are you using guys?? is someone working under linux + gimp for design?
17:47 lilalinux ries: ?
17:47 mgisbers Hi *, I'm in need for a short help.
17:47 jbaptiste_j I don't know about Gimp but I would do my desing under Vector rather than bitmap for conception and turn to bitmap only for integration
17:48 jbaptiste_j so Adobe ==> Illustrator THEN Photoshop
17:48 jbaptiste_j linux ==> inkscape THEN Gimp
17:49 mgisbers has someone a sample typoscript for gifbuilder which checks if a picture is over a defined width and only then scales it down but does not touch smaller ones?
17:49 Jahithber i wanna move to *nix systems and some open software because commercial software costs fortune for begginer
17:50 litzinger jbaptise, thats a waste of time, and besides, when i get a psd from someone i can tell if it was created in illustrator first, usually because things get pixelated b/c it doesnt know how to render an illustrator design to photoshop pixel perfect. if you're designing for web, use photoshop or fireworks. the web is pixel based, not vector based
17:51 Jahithber i think only logos must be in vector for beter resizing
17:51 guzzi gimp is a very powerful software, but gimp can NOT handle "*.psd"-files @jahithber
17:51 litzinger yes, logos vector. anything else for web is pixel
17:51 ries Jahithber: I use OSX only, gimp for image editing is a burden IMHO
17:52 ries Jahithber: Use OSX if you want to move to nix.. a lot of software is cheap or free
17:53 Jahithber first i need to buy a imac:)
17:53 jbaptiste_j I have sometimes spent a day looking for a basic function in the GIMP manual when I can do it in minutes in Photoshop, also I have used GIMP tutorial that work perfectly but the next day if I want to do it again I need the tutorial again while in Photoshop I most often can find what I 'm looking for
17:53 jbaptiste_j directluy in the interface
17:53 litzinger so there is no one liner in the HMENU or TMENU object to get the total count of child pages found?
17:54 Jahithber i tried gimp under windows using it is pain in ass :/ interface sucks but 1000euro license only for photoshop
17:54 Jahithber is too much
17:54 Jahithber if i have 5 worstations x 1000 euro
17:55 Jahithber + illustrator and other stuff
17:55 Jahithber and after 2-3 years my soft will be out of date :/
17:56 jbaptiste_j well either you are not using it professionnally and all sorts of creative solutions are available from using a demo version to buying a student licence, OR you need it for production and you may realize that a web premium creative suite is a good investment (or maybe not) I've heard of people doing great things with inkscape, I just never met those people
17:56 jbaptiste_j also 5 workstations : look up volume licensing
17:56 jbaptiste_j you 'll be surprised
17:57 jbaptiste_j to be honest I haven' tried the most recent versions of GNU graphic softwares
17:58 ries Jahithber: there are also other programs then just photoshop... specially on apple there are some good alternatives
18:00 Jahithber i will take a look thanks
18:16 nd__ ries: do you have a name? Like acorn and similar?
18:18 ries nd__: I personally use Pixel for some simple editing stuff... but there are a couple of others that I know people use, I currently don't have names...
18:19 nd__ ok
18:19 nd__ Not important... but I'm always open to not spend a gig of ram for simple things
18:22 jbaptiste_j I heard good thinjgs about Corel Draw! not free but cheaper than some
18:22 jbaptiste_j photofiltre is easy for simple things
18:23 jbaptiste_j I have to go now good day to y'all
22:32 _pedda_ hi there .. someone still around ?
22:32 _pedda_ need some help with page alias
22:32 theconic just connected ;)
22:33 _pedda_ hehe
22:33 _pedda_ are you into feed created via typoscript ?
22:33 theconic no :(
22:33 theconic what do you need to know?
22:33 _pedda_ i'm trying to implement a flash based slide show
22:33 _pedda_ which is fed by a feed
22:33 theconic where's the prob?
22:33 _pedda_ the feed works quite fine now
22:34 _pedda_ but now i need to hide the new pagetype in the url and make it look like somedomain.com/myfeed.xml
22:34 _pedda_ i specified an alias to the page which is generating the feed
22:35 theconic hehe, sounds like realurl stuff
22:35 _pedda_ nope
22:35 _pedda_ it'S before realurl
22:35 theconic ok?
22:35 _pedda_ realurl is disabled
22:35 theconic kk
22:35 _pedda_ but wait
22:35 _pedda_ i could make realurl replace type=98 by .xml suffix
22:36 _pedda_ hmm
22:36 _pedda_ i will try that one :)
22:36 theconic sounds good ;)
22:38 _pedda_ you need some help ?
22:39 theconic oh, yes, but that's no easy one ;)
22:39 theconic i need someone to create an extension for me
22:40 theconic or helps me writing it, but i think i won't work this
22:41 _pedda_ what's the goal ?
22:41 theconic it should create a dropdown in the backend with which you can filter out page entries of one special fe group
22:42 theconic so if you have a page with 150 entries
22:42 theconic you can select the fe group in the dropdown
22:42 theconic and then it shows you all the entries, which this fe group has access to ;)
22:43 _pedda_ hmm
22:44 _pedda_ can only be done via be extension
22:44 theconic yes
22:44 _pedda_ <- has no programming knowledge
22:44 _pedda_ you should ask for help tomorrow in the early afternoon
22:44 _pedda_ oh well..
22:44 _pedda_ is it about tt_news ?
22:44 theconic no
22:44 _pedda_ or does this affect normal ctypes as well ?!
22:45 theconic it's ONLY about normal ctypes
22:45 theconic like text, picture and that stuff
22:45 _pedda_ hmm
22:45 _pedda_ if you would have had this specification before all these ctypes were created you could have solved it via an workaround
22:46 theconic how that?
22:46 _pedda_ if you define within each begroup to preset the authorfield with a default value
22:46 _pedda_ for example
22:46 _pedda_ you are in group A
22:46 _pedda_ and if you create a text element
22:46 _pedda_ the author field will become preset by GROUP A
22:47 _pedda_ and will become disabled for you as well
22:47 _pedda_ so you can't modify it
22:47 _pedda_ and if you need to know which content elements were created by users of GROUP A you just have to use list mode
22:47 _pedda_ and set the author field
22:48 _pedda_ got it ?
22:48 theconic but it should be filtered not by author
22:48 _pedda_ if the author field is not needed you could use it for this
22:48 theconic it should be filtered by the FE Groups that have access to it
22:48 _pedda_ aaah
22:48 _pedda_ i see
22:48 theconic ;)
22:48 _pedda_ hmm i didn't get you instead :P
22:49 theconic hehe
22:49 theconic my problem is:
22:49 theconic i have e.g. three authors
22:49 theconic and around 600 FE Groups
22:50 _pedda_ which is quite a lot btw
22:50 theconic now on one single page, there are about 200 CEs, and the author needs an overview
22:50 _pedda_ why do you need this feature in the backend ?
22:50 theconic because nobody can handle this ^^
22:51 _pedda_ you could achieve such functonality for the fe via ts easily
22:51 _pedda_ but be..
22:51 _pedda_ i never have created any be extensions
22:51 _pedda_ you could try out kickstarter for this
22:51 theconic the author needs the possibility to click on a page, see those 200 entries, then say "show me all elements on this page that can be seen by user 'winfried' "
22:52 _pedda_ if you know how to set up mysql queries
22:52 teppi theconic, should be possible in listview i think
22:52 _pedda_ aaah
22:52 _pedda_ right
22:52 theconic i'm familiar with sql, but not with extensions (of any kind)
22:52 _pedda_ access
22:52 _pedda_ well
22:52 _pedda_ theconic: go to backend
22:53 theconic yes, but tell this to all those stupid authors... :(
22:53 _pedda_ then chose Web -> List -> click on a page you want to see the content of
22:53 theconic and there you also can only 'sort' by this, not 'filter'
22:53 _pedda_ hmm sort is some kind of filter
22:53 _pedda_ isn't it ?
22:53 theconic hehe
22:54 theconic yes, but if you want to see 2 out of 300 it's not good ;)
22:54 theconic it's possible, but too 'slow'
22:54 _pedda_ hmm .. no way then.. you need a be extension
22:55 theconic yes....
23:00 litzinger so what is wrong with this snippet of code? http://pastie.org/529953
23:00 theconic pedda: tell then if the realurl thing works ;)
23:00 litzinger i have an FCE with the obj lib.media.links
23:00 theconic litzinger: for me?
23:00 litzinger for anyone
23:00 litzinger :)
23:00 theconic aaaaah i see ;)
23:00 theconic hehe sry
23:01 litzinger that snippet doesnt print anything in my template
23:01 teppi lib.media.links = COA is missing imho
23:01 litzinger what does COA mean? I've seen that in various places
23:01 teppi Content Object Array
23:02 litzinger ah
23:02 litzinger that was it
23:02 litzinger thanks!
23:02 teppi np
23:02 theconic ;)
23:02 theconic someone wants to celebrate a minute with me? i got my first customer since today :D
23:03 teppi theconic, i build a filter like this some times ago ..
23:04 teppi i can look into the code tomorrow when I am at work
23:04 theconic teppi: any help would be great!
23:04 theconic what exactly did you create?
23:05 teppi i customized the list view for some special entities which we created before for this project
23:06 teppi you could filter for related entities .. something like that
23:06 teppi maybe its helpful
23:11 theconic btw: does someone in here use the insert/edit type of WFQBE / Database Integration?

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