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01:20 Denyerec BLAM
01:20 Denyerec http://stuff.denyerec.co.uk/quickSlides/DSCF0158.jpg
01:52 iamjay hmmm when I do a BLA = TEXT
01:52 iamjay adjust some values
01:52 iamjay and do a BLA = IMAGE
01:53 iamjay its a whole new object right?
02:30 iamjay anyone happen to be around?
02:40 ries iamjay: it's a bit tricky
02:40 ries But best is to do BLA >
02:40 ries BLA = IMAGE
02:40 iamjay alright.. ive got another problem
02:40 iamjay is it even possible
02:40 ries iamjay: so it's not a new object, the type of teh object is just different, but the previously assigned values are therer
02:40 iamjay to have a site beyond root use a complete new template
02:40 iamjay if I use ext template?
02:41 ries iamjay: I only use TV, and then it's possible
02:41 iamjay ries, ya... thanks.
02:41 ries but I believe that for auto template parser this is also fine
02:41 iamjay gnaa :( I dont :/
02:41 iamjay well as soon as I add
02:41 ries for autotemplateparser, I just don't know how
02:42 iamjay http://pastebin.com/m21c63ee7
02:42 iamjay i only add those lines
02:42 iamjay the html is existing and working
02:42 iamjay but nothing happens :/
02:53 ries iamjay: I would try it with a TEXT object and see if the basics are good
02:53 ries then try it with CONTENT
03:20 iamjay hmmm yeah prob your right
03:59 ries iamjay: any luck?
04:00 iamjay nah.. :/ seems like im too stupid
04:36 ries iamjay: new to TYPO3 ?
04:37 iamjay bashing through some books currently
04:37 iamjay and yep I am D
10:41 okapi hi
10:55 okapi is there a way to use the normal images flexibel content element to create a "gallery" where the individual pictures can be linked to different subsites manually? and maybe even get labeled? or is there a plug-in that does that?
12:22 untouch_ does anyone have a working link with typo3 4.2.6 Source with Dummy
12:22 untouch_ the typo3.org doesnt work again
12:23 untouch_ nevermind
12:23 Denyerec okapi - you can set a destination URL on an image element
12:24 HardPhuck does anyone have a good regular expression to check for valid filenames_
12:25 okapi Denyerec: i know :) but what if i dont have just one image but a list of 10? it only sets the link on the first image. but i guess (or rather hope ;) ) that i am doing something wrong here
12:26 Denyerec You could use individual images
12:26 Denyerec I think for things like captions, each newline in the caption field is for each image
12:26 Denyerec BUT
12:26 Denyerec I think you are right that you can set only one image.
12:26 Denyerec *link
12:28 okapi i suppose i am forced to build a template featuring 3 columns to do it then
12:28 okapi if i want my 3 columns gallery
12:28 Denyerec Mmm
12:28 Denyerec If you're using TV
12:28 Denyerec then a couple of FCEs would sort it out
12:28 okapi i am using tv
12:29 okapi but i am a n00b who doesnt even know what fce stands for ;)
12:30 okapi oh
12:30 okapi O\
12:30 okapi flexible content elements
12:30 okapi hehe
12:30 okapi but yeh i guess i am going that way
12:32 okapi okay, thx for the help, Denyerec :)
14:33 daKmoR what tables of typo3 can I truncate without thinking while creating a backup?
14:34 daKmoR I guess all cache_* tables right?
14:34 daKmoR any other table data I usually don't need inside a backup?
15:02 energie921 hi
15:02 energie921 can anyone help me
15:08 energie921 i downloaded a typo3 template
15:08 energie921 but cant work out how to use it
15:08 energie921 i want to try it out as a dummysite on my local machine
15:08 energie921 i have the typo3winstaller running
15:24 Denyerec Eeep
15:24 Denyerec Not comfortable with windows
15:32 flipmoe hi
15:32 flipmoe can someone help me with a backend module, please?
15:33 energie921 can anyone help me please
15:33 energie921 am trying to learn
15:33 energie921 all the pages on my site are the same
15:33 energie921 show what i wrote in style and constants on the root page
15:44 StefanoK @energie921: T3 ist not a system that you could learn by chatting. Adding a template you can choose from three ways (Marker, AutoTemplate, TemplaVoila)
15:44 energie921 im also reading tuts
15:44 energie921 i added this to the root page
15:44 energie921 # CType: image
15:44 energie921 tt_content.image = COA
15:44 energie921 tt_content.image {
15:44 energie921 10 = < lib.stdheader
15:44 energie921 20 < styles.content.imgtext
15:44 energie921 }
15:45 energie921 woops
15:45 energie921 not that
15:45 energie921 what is autotemplate?
15:46 energie921 i know it is complex and i am reading tuts
15:46 StefanoK i never tried, i begun with Markern and go straight to TemplaVoila
15:46 StefanoK Look this Podcast
15:46 StefanoK http://castor.t3o.punkt.de/files/podkast_julestue3-build-website.m4v
15:46 energie921 thanks
15:47 energie921 i added this to the template on root page
15:47 energie921 page.10 = HTML
15:47 energie921 page.10.value = Hello World
15:47 energie921 but now all my pages say hello world
15:47 StefanoK sound locical
15:47 flipmoe StefanoK: Could you help me, please?
15:47 energie921 am confused, why is that logical, i want each page to say different things
15:48 StefanoK a TypoScript template is different to a html template
15:48 flipmoe StefanoK: With link generation in a backend module
15:48 energie921 ok
15:48 StefanoK @enegie921: because you say this to t3
15:48 energie921 say i have a 3 page site, my root page, a contact page and a about me page in that order
15:49 energie921 i know each page goes back to the root page, a root line right
15:49 StefanoK if you addign HELLO WORLD to every page, then t3 show HELLO WORLD on every page
15:49 energie921 but cant work out how to have text show up on just one page
15:49 StefanoK addign = sssign
15:49 energie921 i only added it to the root template
15:49 StefanoK assign
15:50 StefanoK sure
15:51 energie921 do i need to make a new template for each page?
15:51 StefanoK [PIDinRootline = ID_of_the_rootpage]
15:52 StefanoK page.10 = TEXT
15:52 StefanoK page.10.value = Rootpage
15:52 StefanoK [global]
15:53 energie921 dont follow
15:53 energie921 one page on my site has id = 5
15:53 StefanoK [PIDinRootline = ID_of_the_contactpage]
15:53 StefanoK page.10 = TEXT
15:53 StefanoK page.10.value = Contactpage
15:53 StefanoK [global]
15:53 energie921 if i just want text on that page, do i add some code to the root template ?
15:53 StefanoK but this is not the normal way to apply a template
15:53 StefanoK look the podcast
15:54 StefanoK this is the way today apply templates
15:54 energie921 now sure how to open a podcast
15:54 StefanoK you are sure you ready to learn TYPO3?
15:55 energie921 yes
15:55 energie921 im not inept just never did anything with a cms before
15:55 energie921 i have made sites with dreamweaver in css
15:56 StefanoK but a podcast is independ from a cms, its a mp3 or avi file
15:56 energie921 but typo3 is really confusing, after 2 nights of study i can just make every page say hi world
15:57 energie921 and i click on the licensing page, clicked add new content and added some txt but it didnt show up
15:57 energie921 only shows what is in the root page template
15:57 lommes *hint* templavoila ... easiest way to get the content where it should be ;)
15:57 StefanoK do you speak german?
15:57 energie921 no
15:58 energie921 only english and chinese
15:58 energie921 my end goal is to be able to make my own design in dreamweaver, then add typo 3 to it
15:58 StefanoK i dont know about good english books about typo3 (except Dmitrys about extension developing)
15:58 energie921 i can make css websites quite well
15:59 energie921 but a html website is static, i need to make parts like the menu dynamic right
15:59 energie921 and content areas
16:00 lommes StefanoK, you also know the german version of the book or would you recommend the english one?
16:01 energie921 page.typeNum = 0
16:01 energie921 do i just change the 0 to the uid of the page?
16:02 energie921 to add content to a specific page from the root template
16:03 StefanoK @lommes: i look into it and its IMHO better structured, but i know Dmitry stil from core mailinglist. So i think its better buy in english. Its wrote well.
16:04 lommes i'm done with the english one already but thinking about purchasing the german one aswell because, as you said, i think its better structured too
16:04 StefanoK @energie921: No! typeNum is the type of the page.
16:05 StefanoK 0 = default, 98 = print
16:05 energie921 any idea why i cant add content to any page i wish using the page area in the backend
16:05 lommes again, energie921 you really should look into templavoila easiest way to fill your template with content
16:05 energie921 all pages say hi world, but click on say... licencing page, then clicking new content
16:05 energie921 after adding text it doesnt show up on the page
16:06 lommes cause you use value = Hello World
16:06 StefanoK watch the podcast and then play around with templavoila! I use T3 since 2006. Its not possible to learn it into 2 nights
16:06 lommes full ack
16:06 energie921 not trying to learn it quickly
16:07 energie921 just trying to get a foothold
16:07 energie921 i understand that hello world is displayed on all pages because its written in the root template
16:07 energie921 but surely if i add new content using the backend's page area i should be able to see it
16:08 lommes you need to tell T3 to add your content instead of the hello world in the root template
16:09 energie921 ok
16:09 energie921 so there is some typoscript i can write in the root template, that allows me to add new content right to all pages
16:13 energie921 http://pastebin.com/m5e9b7a4c
16:13 lommes really read the templavoila manual ... its so cool ... just point an click what belongs to where
16:13 energie921 this is what my setup looks like in the root template
16:14 energie921 are you saying i can use templavoila even with a page i make myself in dreamweaver?
16:14 energie921 i have a good design, just need users to be able to add content and have the menu update itself
16:15 lommes yeah ... it displays your divs and other tags and you map e.g. your content to <div id=content>
16:15 lommes but you should read the manual aswell
16:15 energie921 so any div i have i can make it dynamic in that people can add info inside it
16:15 energie921 i looked at the manuals but i get confused preety quickly
16:16 energie921 well not the manual for templavoila but for typo3 in general
16:16 energie921 ok i will heed your advice and try templavoila
16:16 lommes i'm just skipping through the podcast StefanoK gave you ... pretty good one
16:17 energie921 say my website is in a folder on my desktop called site
16:17 energie921 can templaviola find that? and then allow me to play with it offline just like the dummysite?
16:18 lommes the template has to be in fileadmin/templates to use templavoila out of the box
16:18 energie921 and by template we mean a normal html page right
16:18 lommes right
16:18 energie921 ok
16:19 energie921 so i can find fileadmin in the install directory? in program files i guess
16:19 lommes yeah ... thats where your uploaded files go by default if you use the File -> Filelist in T3
16:21 energie921 hmm cant find fileadmin, am inside the typo folder
16:21 energie921 i see alot of folders... apatche,
16:21 energie921 bin
16:21 energie921 etc
16:23 lommes its a folder in the t3 root ... not in the t3 folder itself
16:24 energie921 where would t3 root be
16:25 lommes where ever you placed it ... the root is where the index.php is located
16:26 energie921 i dont remember placing that anywhere
16:26 energie921 when i click on some of the local quickstart front end that comes with typo
16:26 energie921 the address in the url bar is just localhost
16:26 energie921 same for the dummysite
16:27 energie921 localhost:8505
16:27 lommes windows system?
16:27 energie921 yes, xp
16:27 energie921 i have a lenovo x61
16:28 lommes i'm not sure but maybe there is a folder wwwroot but you can also use T3 to upload your template
16:29 energie921 i see under options the other sites are listed under typoinstances
16:29 energie921 well i have managed to open the podcast will watch that
16:30 energie921 hopefully it is aimed at dummies
16:31 Denyerec energie921 - templates for Typo3 are a little more involved than the "skins" you see from other CMS systems
16:32 Denyerec Which is often why they're a good deal more confusing when you first start out!
16:32 energie921 are there better or easier cms
16:32 energie921 i like that it is freeware
16:33 Denyerec Easier, definately
16:33 Denyerec Better for the same price... I don't know any
16:33 energie921 how would i download templavliola
16:33 energie921 so i can follow along with the podcast
16:34 Denyerec You install it as a backedn module
16:34 Denyerec from the Extensions tool
16:34 Denyerec EG, log into the admin backend, then go to Extensions, search for it, click, done.
16:35 flipmoe Denyerec: Can you help me with a backend module, please?
16:35 Denyerec I'm an idiot, so probably not.
16:35 Denyerec What are you working on flipmoe?
16:35 flipmoe http://pastie.org/502765
16:35 flipmoe displaying some data in the backend
16:35 Denyerec waaaaaaaaaaay outta my paygrade I'm afraid
16:36 flipmoe ?
16:36 Denyerec You'll need someone like Ries, PMK or Kraftb to name a couple
16:36 flipmoe ah ok
16:36 flipmoe i see
16:36 flipmoe thx anyway
16:36 Denyerec I have never worked with writing BE modules.
16:36 flipmoe ok
16:37 energie921 searching for templavoila returns 0 results
16:37 energie921 in the ex manager of the backend
17:03 Denyerec search for template
17:03 Denyerec and make sure you've updated the extension list
17:04 ries2 Denyerec: I am rusty... reaaaaaly rusty :D
17:18 Denyerec Even Ries covered in Rust is better than me :)
17:36 energie921 hey
17:37 energie921 i impored a .t3d file into the backend
17:37 energie921 but during the process a bunch of .cmd error boxes popped up in windows xp
17:37 energie921 and now the pages of the template are blank white
17:37 energie921 but there is a page structure
17:37 energie921 and a root template
17:37 energie921 any ideas?
17:47 _pedda_ yes
17:47 energie921 hi
17:47 _pedda_ you should check whether the template is still properly set up for your website
17:47 _pedda_ pn
20:43 energie how to make a user group in the backend?
20:49 skurfuerst good evening :)
20:51 webonaut energie: there is a nice documentation, I'll send you a link
20:52 webonaut energie: the typo3 permission system is realy powerfull...
20:53 energie thanks
20:53 webonaut energie: here everything is explained: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_inside/4.2.0/view/2/4/
20:54 webonaut energie: endless possbilities :-), so you have to learn a little bit, but it's worth it
20:55 energie ok
20:55 energie thanks
20:59 energie is it quite safe against hackers?
21:00 energie the log in
21:06 webonaut energie: that's a difficult question :-D... The TYPO3 core is secure if you know how to configure it the right way. But there are 3800 extensions, and a lot of this extensions are insecure...
21:07 webonaut I'm looking for a documentation how to add sys_log entries the right way, any idea?
21:12 Houmark webonaut: have a look at ie. the realurl extension
21:14 webonaut Houmark: thank you
21:17 webonaut Houmark: is $GLOBALS['TT']->setTSlogMessage(); only callable from the forntend, or did you think about an other function?
21:17 Houmark webonaut: np, basically its about doing t3lib_div::devLog
21:17 Houmark uh oh, i was thinking of devlog... sys_log is different...
21:26 energie where can i find a sign up extenstion?
21:26 energie user sign up
21:43 webonaut Houmark: I know devLog, that's a very nice tool, especially if you use the devlog extension
21:44 webonaut Houmark: I want to log some things for the backend log tool
21:48 Houmark webonaut: i am not sure about if there is an API for adding to the sys_log
21:51 webonaut Houmark: ther is not :-), sys_log is not used that often in typo3, should be used more
21:51 Houmark afaik there will be some improvements in that regard
21:51 webonaut I found info that the extension manager is writhing messages into sys_log but i can not find any entries if I install an extension
21:52 webonaut the loglevel i use is 0 (info)
21:52 Houmark maybe thats why :)
22:00 webonaut Houmark: documentation says that 0 means it logs everything... But I think I found the problem, the systemLog does not use sys_log, that's two pair of shoes
22:01 Houmark oh
22:01 spammer243 hello world
22:01 spammer243 suport on t3 ?
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