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00:40 akira_ hi guys, I am trying to install RSS agregator and it's asking for some dependancies lib 0.1.0 and div 0.1.1 anyone has an idea? I was looking everywhere for them.
00:40 akira_ thanks
07:12 the_p hello. what does the field: expression in typoscript mean?
09:20 Ayudameporfavor Hi all
09:23 Ayudameporfavor Typo3 is not rendering <A ..> tags for the elements created in one of my pages, so the links I have to them are not working. This is only happening in one of my pages, and so far I checked everything and I still dont understand where is the problem. All of these elements have the option "Index" checked. Please can anyone help me? I have been over this since 3 days ago
10:15 robvo Any typoscript guru's online?
10:15 robvo I'm trying to create a menu
10:15 robvo but i need different tags if an menuitem has submenu's
10:15 robvo any ideas on that?
10:30 Ayudameporfavor Typo3 is not rendering <A ..> tags for the elements created in one of my pages, so the links I have to them are not working. This is only happening in one of my pages, and so far I checked everything and I still dont understand where is the problem. All of these elements have the option "Index" checked. Please can anyone help me? I have been over this since 3 days ago
10:30 Ayudameporfavor any help please?
10:34 Denyerec is it the same content as used elsewhere?
10:50 MasterYin Hey Everyone
10:51 MasterYin I'm Searching for a really minimalistic FE-Register-Ext just type in your Mail and your PW (2-times) and register... any ideas?
10:53 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, sorry, I was having a shower, all my pages are working good except this one, I just use mouse and RT editor, so no typo3script stuff, and I want to add links to diferent coentent into the same page, but typo is not generating the anchors to the elements of this page
10:53 Denyerec Ahh
10:53 Denyerec Ok I got you
10:53 Denyerec so you want to do...
10:53 Denyerec <a name="someMarker">Chapter 3</a>
10:54 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, no no
10:54 Denyerec and then hyperlink to that part of the document?
10:55 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, you know that when an element is created into a page with the propertie "index" checked typo should create near its html a <a c="545xx" /> ?
10:55 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, right?
10:56 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, so if you create a hiperlink from the content to another element content, the <a href="..> will point to that #c33xxx, right?
10:56 Denyerec yep
10:56 Denyerec Sorry I just woke up so am not yet at full speed :)
10:56 Denyerec I'm with you
10:56 Denyerec and you want to drop those links in via the RTE
10:56 Denyerec or have some extension generate a contents table at the top ?
10:56 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, ok, so for this page somehow typo is not creating the <a c="55xxx" /> for the elements in this page
10:57 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, In the same page I have a top text element where I wrote a bullet list with some links to bellow content (the page is loo long)
10:57 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, when adding the links the window pop up and I can see the elements to point to
10:57 Denyerec DOn't wear my name out ;)
10:57 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, everythign goes ok, the hiperlinks are generated, but when rendering the html the hyperlinnks dont work
10:58 Denyerec can you link me to the webpage so I may take a quick look ?
10:58 Ayudameporfavor Denyerec, so I investigated with Firefox Firebug and I noticed that typo is not adding those <a..> , that's my problem
10:58 Denyerec can you link me to the webpage so I may take a quick look ?
11:14 MasterYin I'm Searching for a really minimalistic FE-Register-Ext just type in your Mail and your PW (2-times) and register... any ideas?
11:18 Ayudameporfavor2 Denyerec, I was kicked
11:18 Ayudameporfavor2 Denyerec, I am here again
11:18 Denyerec lo
11:18 Ayudameporfavor2 Denyerec, well not actually kiked, my conection was reset
11:19 Ayudameporfavor2 Denyerec, Have you found somthing?
11:19 Denyerec What version of typo are you using ?
11:19 Denyerec I have to head out shortly, so may not be of much further use :(
11:20 Ayudameporfavor2 Denyerec, 4.2.1
11:21 Denyerec Update the RTE first.
11:21 Denyerec Then I'd check if CSS Styled Content has been included as a static for your site template
11:22 Ayudameporfavor2 Denyerec, RT version now is 1.7.5
11:22 Ayudameporfavor2 Denyerec, and CSS Styled Content is in Include satic section of my main template
11:24 Denyerec flushed caches?
11:24 Ayudameporfavor2 several times so far
11:25 Ayudameporfavor2 I just want to know if is there any Page parameter that can cause typo not creating anchors
11:25 Ayudameporfavor2 because this is only happening ofr one page
11:28 Denyerec Hmm.
11:28 Denyerec Unless you accidentally assigned a broken template, I would not expect it.
11:28 Denyerec Create a new page
11:28 Denyerec and recreate the content elements
11:28 Denyerec see if that fixes it
11:28 Denyerec I have to go now, I am sorry I could not be of more use :(
11:29 Ayudameporfavor2 Denyerec, ok, I really aappreciate your help, thanks!
11:29 Denyerec Wish I had more time!!
11:29 Denyerec I will be back on Monday
11:29 Denyerec ttfn!
11:29 Ayudameporfavor2 Denyerec, have anice weekend
16:42 akira_ hi there, anyone online?
16:43 timdeluxe akira_: no ;)
16:43 akira_ thanks :)
16:43 akira_ typo3 totally newbie some help needed :)
16:44 akira_ highly appreciated
16:45 timdeluxe dont ask to ask just ask
16:46 akira_ anyone knows what dependancies lib 0.1.0 and div 0.1.1 are? and how can i find/install them? I am trying to install a rrs feeder
16:47 akira_ RSS Aggregator to be more exact
16:47 timdeluxe it should install them by itself
16:47 akira_ instaling without them I managed to crash my typo
16:47 timdeluxe when it says that it needs them it offers them to install them, you just have to click
16:49 akira_ is not offering to install them, it's just a warning that they are not installed, if I proceed it installs the rss an crushing my typo :|
16:50 timdeluxe hm
16:50 timdeluxe i am looking at that extension in the TER
16:50 timdeluxe seems that ext_emconf is missing
16:51 timdeluxe oh no, my fault
16:51 timdeluxe it just isnt displayed
16:52 timdeluxe if it does not offer it to you just install them by yourself
16:52 timdeluxe you can search for extensions in the backend
16:52 timdeluxe just like you did it with the extension you wanted to install
16:53 akira_ basically I need a rss feeder which will be able to feed some content, I have tried also Content to RSS converter ( content2rss ) which unfortunately is feeding only a single page, I need to feed a page tree
16:54 timdeluxe hm, what exactly do you want to feed? news? new pages? other rss feeds? the whole page tree?
16:54 akira_ I tried searching them in the BE - "No matching extensions found"
16:54 akira_ I have a page tree - News Releases -> months -> days - I need to feed the last 20 releases
16:55 timdeluxe but you make the news by yourself, not with the tt_news extension, right?
16:56 timdeluxe did you search the loaded extensions?
16:56 timdeluxe you have to search at "import extensions"
16:57 timdeluxe and be sure to deactivate the security check under "Settings"
16:58 akira_ I did the news by myself, not using tt_news, at "import extensions" I searched - btw do I need a typo3 account in order to search the repository?
16:58 timdeluxe but i believe rss aggregator won't help you
16:58 timdeluxe since it seems to aggregate rss feeds
16:59 akira_ they are saying: "- use the flexform to select news feed sources (content/news/atom-rss urls)"
17:01 akira_ any other idea than?
17:02 timdeluxe just searching the ter
17:02 timdeluxe do you have a url to get a clue what pages you want to have in your feed?
17:04 timdeluxe i get many extension which let you feed the latest update
17:04 timdeluxe perhaps there is one which you can limit to a part of the page tree
17:04 akira_ I can send a print screen somehow
17:04 nkuttler rss feeds? ecorss is nice
17:07 akira_ maybe something based on metadata or similar?
17:08 timdeluxe if i understood you right ecorss should do the job you want. there is an TS option "pidRootline"
17:09 akira_ I am trying to install, back in 20' :)
17:10 nkuttler one of the deps (lib or div) might break if you use a php cache. jfyi.
17:11 akira_ @nkuttler hmmm.... I don't own the machine and I have no idea about the environment settings :|
17:15 timdeluxe nkuttler: interesting, why?
17:24 nkuttler what do i know.. bad coding? the deps haven't been updated in years and will be replaced soon
17:25 nkuttler at least one of the developers said that
17:27 timdeluxe nkuttler: ok, but what has it to do with a php cache?
17:28 nkuttler i really have no idea. the setup simply breaks for me if i use any cache. i can reproduce it on my box.
17:29 timdeluxe strange
17:30 akira_ nkuttler: can you define a bit breaking :) typo crashes or just the lib?
17:30 nkuttler all of typo3 goes down
17:30 timdeluxe i use both of them and have a php cache and can't see any problem with that
17:31 timdeluxe both = div and lib
17:31 nkuttler http://forge.typo3.org/issues/show/2664
17:31 nkuttler too bad i didn't write down the errors :/
17:32 nkuttler timdeluxe: might be the cache version too. debian stable and xcache is what i used, but i think i tried other caches too
17:32 timdeluxe debian etch & eaccelerator here
17:32 akira_ crap than :( well seems that I am dead meat, I have the rss thing totally on my head and I need to fix it somehow until Monday :|
17:32 nkuttler it was some re-declaration of a function error iirc
17:33 nkuttler well i use ecorss for now but disabled the caching
17:33 timdeluxe but now i see that the problem occurs with the ecorss extension and not when just having lib/div installed
17:33 nkuttler that could be. i really have no clue how to debug such an issue.
17:33 timdeluxe perhaps with xdebug
17:34 timdeluxe but it is strange that caching has something to do with it
17:34 nkuttler well as i said, i got a re-declaration of a function error that existed only once (in lib)
17:35 timdeluxe since php caching just caches compiled scripts... at least thats what i think of what it does
17:35 timdeluxe ah ok
17:35 akira_ than, any idea of a rss which is not div and lib dependable? and easy to setup for someone totally new with typo3?
17:36 nkuttler akira_: just try ecorss
17:37 akira_ but doesn't depend on lib?
17:38 nkuttler yes it does, but it's a really esoteric bug and you might not be hit by it
17:39 akira_ well.. if I install lib and the whole thing crashes.... I am dead :) if you get my point :D
17:39 nkuttler akira_: then you just uninstall lib. no big deal
17:39 nkuttler akira_: disable the ext in typo3conf/localconf.php then
17:40 akira_ clear the cache? :)
17:40 nkuttler hm, probably
17:40 nkuttler akira_: didn't you say you run it on a local box anyway?
17:41 akira_ did dis already - I installed the rss aggregator without div and lib and everything died FE & BE :)
17:41 nkuttler :/
17:41 akira_ I don't have it on a local box and no access to the file system also :(
17:41 nkuttler no ftp?
17:42 akira_ so if the damn thing dies I have to wake-up someone, nope no ftp, no shell no nothing just typo BE & FE :(
17:43 akira_ that's why I have to be more than careful, "measure 10 times and cut once" :)
17:43 nkuttler akira_: insist on ftp at least
17:44 akira_ you don't know my customer :)
17:44 akira_ if it where to them not even http should be on :) mind control maybe :)
17:46 timdeluxe install t3quixplorer and you are fine
17:46 timdeluxe i would quit my service in such cases
17:47 akira_ t3quixplorer - cool I had no idea about this... :)
17:47 akira_ timdeluxe - I am afraid is not a matter of choice, isn't hosting is a customer :|
17:48 timdeluxe i didn't too until a few weeks ago
17:48 timdeluxe hm?
17:49 timdeluxe wether they give you whole access or they should do their stuff alone
17:49 timdeluxe but i think we cant solve that issue here ;)
17:49 timdeluxe i'll be back later, reboot...
18:15 Ayudameporfavor Hi all
18:16 Ayudameporfavor I have installed an extension (Secure Download) and I am trying tu customize the template, but sick and tired looking onto /typo3confg/ext and nothig, is there any plece else where extensions can install their remplates?
18:21 timdeluxe by reading the manual i dont understand why it needs template, since it just changes links?
18:21 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, are you sure? It actually draws a form to introduce a CODE in order to download the file
18:21 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, I want to change the template of that form
18:21 timdeluxe ah ok
18:22 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, The extenssion I am talking about is s_securedownload
18:22 Ayudameporfavor *rs_securedownload
18:22 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, manual doesn't say anything about a template, but in the extension info page in typo3, there is a YES to the question
18:22 timdeluxe ah
18:22 timdeluxe i found naw_securedl
18:23 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, he he, they are nto the same
18:23 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, I want to send a code to some people by mail in order to let them to download a certain file
18:23 timdeluxe you should have said that ;)
18:23 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, sorry!
18:23 timdeluxe no problem
18:24 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, so far I know all the extensions that draw a form, should have a template, right?
18:24 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, usually under typo3conf/ext/name_extension/pi1
18:24 timdeluxe nono
18:24 Ayudameporfavor right?
18:24 timdeluxe if the coder was a good one
18:24 timdeluxe sometimes things are hardcoded
18:24 timdeluxe unfortunately
18:25 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, the thing is that I am looking into all the files one by one, and I cant' figure out where he is writig the HTTML for the form
18:26 timdeluxe just give me a moment
18:26 timdeluxe you can change the css by TS
18:26 timdeluxe plugin.tx_rssecuredownload_pi1._CSS_DEFAULT_STYLE
18:27 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, yeah, but I want to delete things he is writing (messages) and move other to another place
18:27 timdeluxe yes
18:27 timdeluxe i think you should take a deep look at this file:
18:27 timdeluxe http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/rs_securedownload/current/info/pi1%252Fstatic%252Feditorcfg.txt/
18:28 timdeluxe seems that the whole output is defined by TS
18:28 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, pfff I am still very noob in TS
18:28 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, ok, I will take a look to it
18:28 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, I was looking for HTML that's why I didn't find it
18:29 timdeluxe Ayudameporfavor: you can overwrite the setup from the extension in your own template
18:30 timdeluxe and the texts you can find in http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/rs_securedownload/current/info/mod1%252Flocallang.xml/
18:31 timdeluxe but i currently don't know how to overwrite them
18:31 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, yeah anyway, I will try to understand the TS file
18:31 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, , but it is a pitty, so far all the extension I have used were comming with a template
18:33 timdeluxe dont say that to me, say it to the author ;)
18:34 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, just was a comentary man
18:35 timdeluxe ok ok...
18:35 akira_ timdeluxe: ext_emconf.php rings any bell? :)
18:35 timdeluxe akira_: hm?
18:36 akira_ seems like I have to: include dependancies for lib/div in ext_emconf.php and I am a bit lost - again :)
18:39 timdeluxe YOU have to include them? why
18:39 timdeluxe i thought you wanted to try to install the extension without the lib/div extension? ;)
18:41 Ayudameporfavor Another open question, is Typo3 valid to create companies intranets? I am starting one with CakePHP, it gives me all the control, but slower, ...I was thinking in trying typo for this matter, but it seems to me very limited by the extensions that are out there, or if you want to write you own ones, so you have to learn TS (another complete scripting), in that case I already spent a lot of time learning Cake...what do you think?
18:41 akira_ I think I solve it, I installed lib, div and rss_aggregator - which is a improvement of ecorss - typo is still alive and kicking :D
18:41 akira_ I am trying now to see how to feed the content
18:41 timdeluxe Ayudameporfavor: depends on what you want to have in your intranet
18:42 timdeluxe if it is just for informational purposes typo3 is good
18:42 timdeluxe if you need special community features typo3 is not the perfect solution
18:42 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, no, I have to move TOOLS that currently are Excell sheets, invoices generators, etc.. to HTML so everybody can use them
18:42 timdeluxe DW uses typo3 for intranet
18:42 timdeluxe afaik
18:43 timdeluxe oh i see
18:43 timdeluxe so you really have to write own ext
18:43 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, ok, so it is what I thought, ... I should go on with Cake
18:44 timdeluxe i cant help you with that
18:44 timdeluxe you should use the framework you are most familiar with
18:44 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, yeah no problem with Cake, more thatn 1 year learning, but my doubts were about typo3
18:47 timdeluxe Ayudameporfavor: i think when the dymanic content is greater than static content you will be happier with cake
18:48 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, oh, that's a good point
18:48 timdeluxe at least thats what i think
18:49 timdeluxe of course it has dynamic features too but it's main aim is to deliver content and to cache it
18:49 timdeluxe that will change with flow3
18:49 Ayudameporfavor timdeluxe, it sounds good for me too
18:49 timdeluxe since typo3 will be "just" one package there
18:50 timdeluxe but there is still a long way for a productive flow3/typo3v5 environment ;)
18:50 Ayudameporfavor flow3?
18:51 timdeluxe http://flow3.typo3.org/
18:56 akira_ typo is so cumbersome... :|
19:58 mushty hi all
23:50 lilalinux The tsref says that "usually" one uses a FILE object as the template cObject. What other possibilities are there? I would like to specify the template directly inside the typoscript. How is the syntax for that?
23:51 lilalinux s/how/what
23:55 nkuttler lilalinux: HTML or TEXT can do that
23:58 lilalinux nkuttler: hm, I'm trying to turn my COA/TEXT constructs into TEMPLATE objects
23:58 nkuttler lilalinux: that's what markers are for, isn't it?
23:59 lilalinux I guess so, but I never used them before
23:59 lilalinux Till now I was only using TemplaVoila and Typoscript

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