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00:05 nkuttler techgurufloyd: check xhtml_cleaning
00:05 nkuttler techgurufloyd: tsref CONFIG iirc
00:05 techgurufloyd Is it turned on by default?
00:06 nkuttler don't think so
00:06 nkuttler typo3 should produce some html by default
00:08 techgurufloyd Hmm... found it in the tsref. But it adds /> to all the tags - I want the opposite. I want it to stop adding them. - the rest is fine, and good though. lowercase, attr in qutoes, and alt attr is sweet. But I don't want it to add /> any ideas?
07:54 Maluka G'day all
08:45 LionRock what is the right items array structure for BE in typo 4.2.6?
08:57 lilalinux do you mean foo { ... }?
09:02 LionRock yes. For $params['items'] = .... Or is this one correct $params['items'][] = Array('name', 'uid'); ?
09:03 LionRock because Im still getting INVALID VALUE and I was thinking that mybe array structure is incorrect but now I see that this is ok
09:04 LionRock It looks like when the page gets refreshed the old value is still in cache and the new one is also added. So the new one is ok, and for the old one I get INVALID VALUE in select box. Is there any cache for this?
09:10 lilalinux LionRock: maybe you are missing a '.'
09:10 |00| .
09:10 lilalinux like here "if ($this->conf['infomail'] && $this->conf['email.']['field'])<>{"
09:11 lilalinux |00|: thx :-)
09:11 lilalinux (Ignore the <>)
09:12 |00| you're welcome :-)
09:12 _pedda_ hi all
09:13 lilalinux aloha
09:14 LionRock lilalinux, if I use $params['items.'] = Array... I dont get nothing, so it looks like . is not the issue :/
09:18 LionRock http://pastebin.com/m28b7b246
09:18 LionRock what Im doing wrong ?
09:18 LionRock any tip pleas
09:21 lilalinux LionRock: I grepped through the code and found that similar code:
09:21 lilalinux $params['items'][]=Array($this->prefix.(substr($val['title'], 0, 4) == 'LLL:' ? $GLOBALS['LANG']->sL($val['title']) : $val['title']), $val['path'], $val['icon']);
09:22 lilalinux so essentially, the syntax $params['items'][]=Array(...); looks correct
09:23 LionRock I dont have any idea from where typo gets one more record :/ I get the right result from db, but typo add one more item and then this is INVALID VALUE. I dont have any more ideas where to look :/
09:26 lilalinux which item is that?
09:28 maholtz|WORK morning
09:32 LionRock lilalinux If I would know that... :) It add one more item to the $params['items']... Whichone is this I dont know. I get one result from db and typo add one more :/
09:35 lilalinux LionRock: simply print it
09:35 lilalinux print all of them
09:46 Bluespuke hello
09:48 lilalinux aloha Bluespuke
09:54 Bluespuke hi lilalinux :p
09:57 lilalinux _pedda_: what was the reason for sr_feuer_register not using md5 passwords?
09:57 _pedda_ usemd5Passwords = 1 for sr_feuser_register
09:58 _pedda_ in setup or constants
09:58 _pedda_ can't remember
09:59 Bluespuke i'm still working on this #@$%!! calendar... someone knows how to display events from the past?
09:59 Bluespuke even when i have the day view on tommorow, today osn't linked :@
10:01 lilalinux _pedda_: strange
10:01 lilalinux now it works again
10:01 _pedda_ lol
10:01 _pedda_ ok
10:02 lilalinux It seems like if you enable Infomail=1 you implicitly disable md5. Which sounds logical, but it should definitely be documented!
10:02 lilalinux or even better throw an error
10:04 lilalinux But this leads to another problem
10:04 lilalinux If I enable md5, I obviously can't send the user his password if he forgot it
10:05 lilalinux And if I initially import 1000 users with random passwords, the users can't request their password to be removed from the newsletter
10:05 lilalinux becaue
10:05 lilalinux because they can't login
10:06 lilalinux and tc_directmail has no "Reset Password" function
10:07 lilalinux or an Infomail with an authentication token
10:18 lilalinux So I need to hack the code for "password forgotten" and update the password with a random password and send that in plaintext to the requestor but store it hashed in the db
10:19 lilalinux I can't believe that there isn't such a function already in such a common extension
10:23 lilalinux damn
10:23 lilalinux felogin is a sysext
10:23 LionRock I see the problem now. When page is reloaded, typo still have old country_id in array $row but after reload I already have new records and typo still searches for the old id, whichone is not there yet anymore :/ Any tip how I should prevent this? So after reload params country_id would be empty
10:24 lilalinux clear all caches and remove the contents of typo3temp?
10:26 LionRock lilalinux, still the same
10:31 lilalinux LionRock: you have to find out what country that is, e.g. by simply printing it, and then grep you whole installation to find out where it comes from. And if you don't find it in the files, dump the database and grep that
10:32 lilalinux should be a matter of 5 minutes
10:37 lilalinux Wow, the email field in fe_users is not unique, but there is a password forgotten function that uses the email address to identify the record
10:37 lilalinux typo3 is so fucking stupid
10:44 LionRock lilalinux, params variable is filled from form. And after reload the form saves data in params, and when I get new data from db, typo still use the old data from params variable. Is there any function whichone is called before the form is filled with data? So I can empty this fields on reload ....
10:45 Bluespuke damn... someone knows how plugin.tx_cal_controller.views.day.startingPointCorrection does make? i don't get the point of it :(
10:47 maholtz|WORK afaik - if you have an server which is in a different timezone than your users, you could use that feature...
10:47 maholtz|WORK but i am not sure about that
10:49 Georges_Abitbol hi all
11:02 lilalinux ALTER TABLE fe_users ADD unique (email);
11:02 lilalinux The code already respects that
11:03 lilalinux but the database definition was wrong in 4.2.6
11:04 maholtz|WORK well, sometimes there are extensions...
11:04 maholtz|WORK and there are situations where the email should only unique per domain...
11:06 lilalinux to which extension does fe_user belong? I want to file a bug report. Is that fe_login?
11:06 lilalinux i see
11:06 lilalinux but it should be at least configurable
11:07 beli lilalinux: its in the core...no extension
11:07 lilalinux I'm going to hack fe_login to reset passwords instead of mailing the hash if passwords are hashed
11:08 lilalinux whenever someone uses "forgot password" the email field should be unique
11:13 swemark Good day #typo3
11:18 lilalinux swemark: there are no good days with typo3
11:18 m0oman lilalinux: heh, fed up with typo? :P
11:19 lilalinux I filed two bug reports: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=10729 http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=10728
11:20 lilalinux m0oman: is that so obvious? :-)
11:21 m0oman yep. :P i know the feeling.
11:23 m0oman still/again having 4 typo3 sites to manage. :-S
11:24 lilalinux maholtz|WORK: what do you know about kb_md5fepw?
11:24 lilalinux It doesn't work with 4.2, right?
11:26 lilalinux apparently kb_md5fepw already has the functionality to assign a new password when the password got forgotten, but kb_md5fepw is not working anymore with 4.2 (since 2007!)
11:26 lilalinux http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=5677
11:26 dokma lilalinux: I used kb_md5fepw all over the place with 4.2
11:26 dokma never had a problem
11:26 lilalinux dokma: when I try to install it, I get dependency errors
11:27 dokma I think the issue with it is that the author had set the upper typo3 version to the version of typo3 that was current when he was developing the extension
11:27 lilalinux The running TYPO3 version (4.2.6) is higher than allowed (3.8.4)
11:27 lilalinux and
11:27 lilalinux The running PHP version (5.2.6) is higher than allowed (5.0.9)
11:27 dokma the extension functions normally with any typo3 version cause it is only encryption
11:28 dokma yes that is exactly what I am describing to you
11:28 dokma think about it
11:28 lilalinux dokma: yeah, but 4.2 already has "some" md5 built in
11:28 dokma but that should not conflict with kb_md5fepw
11:28 lilalinux and since 2 years nobody cared to update the dependencie?
11:28 dokma cause think about it
11:29 lilalinux yeah I think you're right
11:29 dokma if some other extension uses functionality of kb_md5fepw why would there be any collisions?
11:29 lilalinux But I wonder why nobody fixes the dependency
11:29 lilalinux dokma: maybe double hashing?
11:29 lilalinux should I enable or disable md5 in sr_feuser_register?
11:30 dokma lilalinux: I enabled it everywhere and never had an issue with it
11:30 lilalinux with kb_md5fepw installed
11:30 lilalinux dokma: do you use the reset password function?
11:30 dokma yes
11:30 lilalinux do you have to configure that?
11:30 lilalinux or will that kick in automatically, if md5 is used?
11:30 dokma I think there was some issues with it
11:31 dokma can't remember exactly what was it
11:31 dokma I think I wasn't getting the notification email with the new password
11:31 dokma but I think that has nothing to do with kb_md5fepw
11:37 lilalinux as sr_feuser_register and fe_login already support md5 themselves I think I'll do the world a favor and write a 3 liner to support "reset password" directly so that kb_md5fepw can be nuked
11:40 lilalinux Hm, sr_feuser_register uses javascript to create the md5
11:40 lilalinux so I can't reuse that in php :-(
11:42 lilalinux mysql has a md5 function, do you think I can use that? or will it break other dbs?
11:42 lilalinux postgres too
11:48 lubosz hi
11:48 lubosz what is wizard_form.datß
11:48 lubosz ?
11:49 lilalinux lubosz: iirc it's from kickstarter
11:49 lubosz so i can delete it?
11:49 lubosz cause editing would be a nightmare :D
11:49 lilalinux depends on
11:49 lubosz everthing in one line
11:50 lubosz i don't want to edit the extension in kickstarter anymore, i edited it manually
11:50 lilalinux if you want to still be able to edit the extension in kickstarter, you shouldn't delete it :-)
11:50 lubosz kickstarter was a pain in the ass sometimes
11:50 lubosz k
11:50 lilalinux lubosz: yes and no :-)
11:50 lubosz is requires a lot of post tolerance :D
11:50 lilalinux I thought like that too, but now I live in peaceful coexistence with it :-)
11:50 lubosz and it uses .gif as icons
11:51 lubosz its good if you want to do something quick
11:51 lilalinux I use it only for custom datastructures and typoscript templates
11:51 lilalinux but not for plugins
11:51 lubosz but editing in kickstarter was not that good for manual further changes
11:52 lilalinux lubosz: I don't manually edit the kickstarter extensions
11:52 lilalinux I only use the table and static typoscript functionality
11:53 lubosz k
11:53 lubosz wizard_form.html is also a kickstarter thing?
11:54 lilalinux i guess so
11:54 lilalinux .dat ist the storage
11:54 lilalinux and .html looks like the html form
12:14 lilalinux Am I allowed to check the configuration of extension foo from within the extension bar?
12:20 lilalinux How do I get the conf[] of a different extension if I already checked with t3lib_extMgm::isLoaded()?
12:34 Denyerec Anyone seen this running in the wild?
12:34 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/mooslide/0.2.1/view/toc/0/
12:40 gerards lilalinux: not sure. but you can try doing this in your setup.txt
12:41 gerards plugin.myplugin.details_whatever_you_want < plugin.otherExtension.
12:41 gerards that would give you the conf of another extension in details_whatever_you_want.
12:42 gerards may or maynot work as you want, because the conf of the other extension does depend on many factors. :) hth
12:44 lilalinux thx
12:47 Denyerec hey gerards
12:51 pmk65 Is anyone using Phlogi's file_explorer extension?
12:53 Denyerec not I
12:53 Denyerec ext key ?
12:55 pmk65 file_explorer
12:55 pmk65 it's an ext that allows FE users to upload files and share it with other FE users.
12:56 pmk65 But for some reason it fails when I try uploading or create a folder
12:57 Denyerec I'm gonna assume you've checked FS permissions ?
12:58 pmk65 yes.
12:58 pmk65 I can't even see the folders I created using BE.
13:13 Bluespuke is there a way that i include a CSS via typoscript called like the id of the current page?
13:13 Bluespuke e.g.: index.php?id=shop should include fileadmin/templates/css/shop.css
13:14 pmk65 Bluespuke: You could use a condition and check the id.
13:15 Bluespuke and what type of condition?
13:15 lubosz can you scale images to file.maxW AnD file.max, ignoring the proportions?
13:16 lubosz maxH
13:16 Krab hello, i'm new to typo3 and have a question which probably sounds pretty stupid! when i inspect an element (for example a header img) there is an defination of the picture like: <img class="headImg" width="480" title=".." alt=".." src="uploads/....."/>! Where do i find this defination?
13:17 m0oman Krab: defination?
13:17 pmk65 Bluespuke: example -> http://paste.phlogi.net/-90e9c63feb/
13:18 maholtz|WORK @Krab: in TypoScript object IMAGE
13:18 pmk65 lubosz: you can add a "c" or "m" to the width/height, to crop or maintain aspect ration.
13:18 pmk65 http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.2.0/view/1/5/#id4164427
13:18 lubosz pmk65: thx
13:19 maholtz|WORK @Krab: perhaps http://wiki.typo3.org/Ts45min helps to understand what is going on - if you dot understand something, please let me know
13:19 Bluespuke pmk65: so i have to make it for each page... i would like to make it automatic
13:20 pmk65 how would you make that automatic, if every page needs its own stylesheet? You still would have to create a stylesheet.
13:21 Bluespuke yes, that's what i want...
13:21 Bluespuke it's not a big page, and this will only be extension stylesheets to override the basic stylesheet
13:22 Krab thx for your help so far. but i think i was not as clear as i wished! i mean that there has to be somewere the line <img class="headImg" width="480" title=".." alt=".." src="uploads/....."/> and i only find the defination of the class but not the link to the picture.
13:22 lubosz pmk65: like this file.maxW = 48c ?
13:23 pmk65 i think so. been a while since I used that feature.
13:23 maholtz|WORK @Krab: you will not find that line execpt in core classes
13:23 lubosz does not really work
13:23 lubosz it still keeps the aspect ratio
13:23 maholtz|WORK @Krab: read TSref - IMAGE object creates <img tag
13:24 Krab @mahlotz|WORK: thx for your help
13:24 pmk65 lubosz: Do you use both maxW and maxH ?
13:24 lubosz yes
13:25 Bluespuke can i verify via typoscript if a file exists?
13:25 pmk65 thats why. Only use one of them, (and remove the c, as that's for cropping)
13:25 lubosz pmk65: but i need a fixed width AND a fixed height
13:26 lubosz so i require it to loose the ratio
13:26 maholtz|WORK @Bluespuke: if it is an image there are workarounds to do so - if not you have to use an userFunc (afaik)
13:26 lubosz maybe file.H?
13:26 Bluespuke maholtz|WORK: to check a css file :s
13:27 Bluespuke before including it
13:27 lubosz does not help :/
13:27 lubosz still has its old apect ratio
13:27 pmk65 lubosz: set width or height (only one of them) then set maxH and maxW as before.
13:29 pmk65 Bluespuke: pass the fileurl to the typolink function, and set the typolink to "return URL". If the file exists you should get an url back. if it doesn't exist you should get nothing back.
13:33 mikhas1 hi. I'm wondering on how to go about url's passed in plaintext-mail which contains square brackets.
13:34 mikhas1 often they break in mailclients, at the square brackets. I've tried converting it to it's html-entity character but then it doesn't work correctly in others, like Outlook.
13:34 mikhas1 could anyone enlighten me?
13:34 mikhas1 how does srfeuserregister do their chashed variants (which doesn't break) f.ex.?
13:44 pmk65 mikhas1: There's a config property to control the length of notification emails. "notification_email_urlmode" But it depends on if the ext supports it or not.
13:45 pmk65 http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.2.0/view/1/7/#id4213956
13:48 LionRock are there any before save functions in BE ? So when data is saved, some function is called etc. ?
13:53 Bluespuke is there a way to use the page alias in the constants?
13:56 mikhas1 pmk65: thanks!
13:57 pmk65 LionRock: There's a hook you can use..
13:58 pmk65 LionRock: You can look at my autokeywords ext. It uses that hook.. -> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/pmkautokeywords/current/
13:59 pmk65 Bluespuke: constants are like the name says, static variables which can only be set to fixed values.
14:00 Bluespuke pmk65: i just try to make this: page.includeCSS.extend = fileadmin/templates/css/{page:alias}.css
14:01 Bluespuke but typoo doesn't solve the alias :(
14:02 pmk65 that's because includeCSS don't have stdWrap support, so you can't pass field values to it, only fixed text
14:02 nd_ (Have the same problem with class="{fields:title}"
14:03 pmk65 Alsways look in TSRef. and if it doesn't have stdWrap support, you can only use a static string as parameter.
14:03 nd_ pmk65: So you'd need to make a TEXT object, wrap it there, then copy it to includeCSS?
14:03 pmk65 that still wont work as includeCSS would see it as "TEXT" and not your TS object. with "includeCSS" you can ONLY use static string.
14:05 pmk65 what you should do instead, is look for possibilities with stdWrap.. page.headerData would be useable..
14:07 maholtz|WORK @pmk65: your typolink returnLast trick is great:) good to know:)
14:08 pmk65 headerData example. -> http://paste.phlogi.net/-6020ee3380/
14:12 LionRock pmk65, thanks
14:21 jfef Hi
14:24 jfef Is it possible to add or change template-typoscript settings in a plugin (when a template already has been rendered/parsed)? (im not sure about that last if its really rendered I guess not but I dont know how to say it in another way)
14:25 gerards yeah jfef i think it depends on if your plugin is a cached or user_int plugin.
14:25 gerards if its a user_int, the template typoscript settings are probably already parsed.
14:25 gerards :) can't do much then.
14:26 jfef user_int ? :x
14:26 gerards if its cached, I'm not sure, but it probably "depends" as well.
14:26 gerards sorry. user_int = a non-cached plugin.
14:26 gerards i'm sure there are people more knowledgeable here in the channel that can help.
14:26 gerards jfef: the simple answer is 'no'
14:27 gerards jfef: the not so simple answer is 'probably no'
14:27 gerards jfef: the real answer is, "I don't know"
14:27 jfef I want to change this: $GLOBALS['TSFE']->config['config']['language'] = 'de'; but it doesnt change, i think its already rendered
14:27 swemark Gotta love a straight forward solution... :)
14:28 gerards yeah, that's probably rendered.
14:28 gerards jfef: since you cna't do that in php, why not do it in your extension's typoscript?
14:28 gerards ie. in your extension's setup.txt.
14:28 swemark config.language = whatever
14:29 gerards would that be a good solution? jfef ?
14:29 jfef not really because its not a general plugin language
14:29 pmk65 The value of $GLOBALS['TSFE']->config['config']['language'] is something you define by typoscript, like: config.language = xy
14:29 jfef its not a common site setting its just a setting for the plugin
14:29 gerards oh ok...
14:30 swemark deafult should be english
14:30 gerards then there are LL functions for that
14:30 gerards jfef: LL = locallang functions.
14:30 pmk65 jfef: then hack the ext. and force your own language setting there.
14:32 jfef when i implement the plugin in a site I need to create a new empty template with config.language = 'de' just to get my plugin only in german ( so its not the common language from the site but just the language of the b
14:32 jfef the plugin that i need to change)
14:32 pmk65 Not tested, but try inserting this in your plugin.. $this->LLkey = 'xy'; where xy is the lang code
14:32 jfef but that is not a friendly way to implement or install / change a language with an empty template and typoscript
14:33 pmk65 you can't do it wit TS, as the language is loaded using the FE language.
14:33 gerards jfef: swemark suggested config.language = whatever
14:34 gerards that sounds like a friendly way to implement a language....
14:34 jfef I want some dropdownlist in my plugin (BE) where I can select my language, but when I do this like select German I cannot overwrite or change the typoscript with php
14:34 pmk65 config.language is for the entire site. there's no way to set a ext to display in a different lang using TS.
14:34 gerards pmk65: why not?
14:34 gerards cna't you just do a conditional in TS, that changes the language if id = xxx?
14:35 pmk65 jfef: then don't use the getLL and loadLL functions in your ext. Instead make your own function that extract the correct key, based on the lang you select.
14:36 pmk65 in your ext. try doing a debug($this->LOCAL_LANG); that should show you the layout of the language translations
14:36 sebke pmk65: $this->LLkez works :)
14:36 sebke key*
14:37 jfef ^^
14:37 gerards sebke: thanks. :) always good information.
14:37 jfef indeed it seems to work
14:37 jfef ty
14:37 gerards thanks sebke.
14:39 jfef wiii happy ^^
14:55 mikhas1 untouch_: your old nick was more catchy ;)
15:01 jbaptiste_j Georges_Abitbol, this channel is not a channel about Cyclimse
15:02 untouch_ lol
15:02 untouch_ that was the nick of my colleague
15:02 untouch_ or how ever thats written
15:13 Georges_Abitbol jbaptiste_j: fasciste de merde
15:17 jbaptiste_j I am confused about how to manage worflows using the most recent versions of Typo3
15:51 lilalinux anybody here using the zenddebugger and zendstudio 6?
16:11 Pepelargo Hi all
16:12 Pepelargo I am looking the way to add a FTP feaature for my web site in the front end, so users can upload files or download them, creating accounts, etc.. I have been checking the repository but not sure which one to go with, so I wanted to hear the opinion of the community, any sugesttion?
16:15 lilalinux Pepelargo: FE or BE?
16:15 lilalinux oh, FE
16:16 Pepelargo lilalinux, yeah Fe
16:16 Pepelargo lilalinux, any suggestion?
16:19 nd_ Though I cannot help you with your problem you should think about the FTP-part of the story... This protocol is highly insecure, so sftp/scp might just be a (better) alternative. And yes, this does not solve the integration...
16:20 Pepelargo On the other hand, I started to write an Intranet for my company using CakePHP. It is an active Intranet, not just displaying content, but also translating daily tools (like excell sheets, calculations, ms access tables, etc..) to a HTML/PHP enviroment. My question is, How fast and easier would be creating the intranet with Typo3 instead of coding with CakePHp as a framework? thanks
16:21 Pepelargo nd_, the thing is that when we need to leave a big file to a customer, we used to use public externar servers, so this time we wanted to create a kind of FTP..
16:21 Pepelargo It is my understanting that when the active part of a web site is greater than the passive one, Typo3 is not the solution
16:23 jbaptiste_j there is an extension called e-groupware, did you look it up ?
16:23 Pepelargo jbaptiste_j, it is about adding a community to Typo3, right?
16:24 jbaptiste_j I think it is to help you work together, sharing documents...
16:24 Pepelargo jbaptiste_j, I will take another look to it
16:25 Pepelargo And what about the Intranet question'
16:25 jbaptiste_j I have to admit I am quite new to Typo3 so at best I have general ideas
16:26 jbaptiste_j egroupware seem to have functionalities like apointments, planning of tasks.
16:26 Pepelargo jbaptiste_j, yeah I am looking for it int he repository but I can't find it
16:27 Pepelargo jbaptiste_j, there is opengroupware, is it the same?
16:27 jbaptiste_j dunno
16:27 jbaptiste_j but those might cover part of your intranet needs
16:28 Pepelargo jbaptiste_j, but the active side should be done manually
16:29 Pepelargo jbaptiste_j, here where my question comes up
16:29 Pepelargo jbaptiste_j, I guess I need to create my own extensions, no problem
16:29 Pepelargo jbaptiste_j, but my question is how worthable would be learning Typo3 in order to create extenssions for my intranet if already I know cakephp and I can do the same job (slower yes, but I can do it)
16:30 jbaptiste_j I don't know cakephp and I know very little of typo3 so it is hard for me to answer
16:32 Pepelargo jbaptiste_j, I have created my first web site in Typo3 and I am really impressed about this CMS + Framework, so the doubt I have now is if I can go further using it such for active projects :)
16:38 roadi i have a strange problem (what else ;) if i create a download link to a normal file which uses the default image for downloads - the image file is only visible (in the front end) when i am logged in into the backend. So all other peaple see the alternative image text.
16:49 lilalinux Typo3 is rolling dice if it should hash the password at login or not
16:50 m0oman Pepelargo: we gave up on typo3 for our intranet community and client showcase sites as it is quite a hassle to maintain.
16:51 Pepelargo m0oman, wow, that's interesting to know, was it an active intranet?
16:52 m0oman relatively small (~50 users) but very active.
16:53 Pepelargo m0oman, yeah but I am talking about wether the intranet was just for showing content or to give active tools, as calculations, complex numeric tables, etc..
16:54 crakWORK hi all
16:54 Pepelargo m0oman, our goal is to move all the Excell sheets, Word templates, MS Access Db, and other tools that the employees are currently using in their desktop machines, to HTML/PHP enviroment plus mySQL server
16:54 Pepelargo crakWORK, hi
16:54 m0oman it has social functions, automated billing functions, creating pdf from content and an extensive showcase for many different media types, ranging from images over html/ajax to movies and flash. everything someone working in online advertising would want to showcase/demo to their clients.
16:55 crakWORK is there a good documentation for calendar_base out there?
16:55 crakWORK hi Pepelargo
16:55 Pepelargo m0oman, ok, I understand
16:56 Pepelargo byt he way, is there any tool to switch off the entire site and show the usual meesage of "Currently the site is off, we will be back...bl abla" ?
16:57 m0oman i've been working with typo3 for almost 7 years now and typoscript and the extension system have worn me out nowadays. i'd rather optimize sites for IE6 than deal with the typo3 sites we still have. ;)
16:58 Pepelargo m0oman, so I'd better keep going with CakePHP for my Intranet project, :D
16:58 m0oman i've usually done that by swapping out the root template.
16:58 Pepelargo or wait for FLOW3
16:58 Pepelargo XD
16:59 m0oman Pepelargo: i don't want to talk down typo3 in a typo3 channel, but that's what i'd do. :p
16:59 m0oman not using cakephp but drupal for most of my stuff now. just being able to use proper debugging tools or a simple print_r can save you a lot of "what the hell is going on here?".
17:04 tmeixner Pepelargo: I use dekiwiki internally for my intranet of ... ehh, well 2 :-)
17:05 Pepelargo tmeixner, dekiwiki is an extension right?'
17:05 tmeixner nop, it's a product by itself but focused on intranet integration.
17:06 tmeixner http://www.mindtouch.com/ but I'm out of touch since a while :-)
17:07 tmeixner I have it on my longterm to do list though to achive something similar with TYPO3 since I find the basic functionality useful. But with typo3 you could use all the extensions that already exist.
17:08 Pepelargo tmeixner, not sure, I would need to write my onws, since we have a lot fo excell sheeets that links ot others and make automated accounts, etc.. so I woudl need to "translate" all that to Typo3
17:10 _pedda_ cu all
17:10 tmeixner right, that sounds like a very specific functionality.
17:11 Pepelargo tmeixner, so that's why I was just thinking about going with CakePHP as I usually do with active Web projects
17:13 tmeixner I have no experience with CakePHP. I guess it all depends how much "out of the box" functionality you can reuse for your project and how easily you can extend it.
17:15 tmeixner for an intranet I found dekiwiki already providing a lot of the functionalities I was looking for and it had an RTE integrated which was important for me.
17:17 Pepelargo tmeixner, well always it is a good to learn new things, so I will take a lookg to dwkiwiki just in case I need it in the future
17:26 daKmoR once I insert a plugin on the page
17:27 daKmoR does it get a unique id?
17:27 daKmoR if I add the same plugin 2 times on one page - how to seperate them?
17:29 tmeixner daKmoR: you can insert a plugin as a reference or a copy. (at least in TV you can) as a copy it has its own uid. Just go to the list view and check.
17:30 daKmoR tmeixner yeah right... man I'm stupid... :p
17:31 daKmoR howto get this id? in my extension?
17:31 daKmoR and what happens if I add the plugin with typoscript?
17:31 daKmoR something like: lib.footer < plugin.myPowerList ?
17:32 tmeixner that's actually a good question ...
17:33 tmeixner well, if it's in tt_content you should be able to query the db.
17:33 tmeixner but for typoscript - I I have no idea.
17:34 daKmoR hmmm $this->cObj->currentRecord gives me tt_content:112 if it's added "normally"
17:34 daKmoR with typoscript it gives me _NO_TABLE:
17:34 tmeixner I don't think it gets an uid since it's not in the database, only in the cashed tables if I understand right.
17:34 daKmoR so no id :(
17:35 tmeixner ah, so not that far - why do you need to speak to a "specific" instance?
17:36 daKmoR it's a list and I want to modify some parameters for the list...
17:36 daKmoR and as you can insert the list more than once on ONE page
17:36 daKmoR I want to only modify an instance and not everything...
17:36 tmeixner What I do sometime I collect CEs in a list on a page outside the menu and use them via TS.
17:38 tmeixner I think then copy + paste is your friend for CE's. should also work if you duplicate an element in a list and retrieve it via TS.
17:46 lilalinux anybody here using srfeuserregister_t3secsaltedpw?
17:53 lilalinux Come on guys, are you all using unencrypted/unhashed passwords? I can't be the only one with all these problems
18:06 kreegee can i iterate over a list of files with FCE?
18:06 kreegee building something like collection of images
18:50 sw_bluntman What do you guys recommend for a FLV player plugin?
18:52 kreegee i made my own fce
18:52 kreegee feel free to steal it from www.kuendig.ch
18:53 kreegee (just map the flv file to the ref="" of the link)
18:54 sw_bluntman Nicely done. Problem is, I actually need something my users can use to embed and auto play
18:54 kreegee backend users?
18:55 sw_bluntman Yes
18:55 kreegee fce are normal content elements
18:56 sw_bluntman But doesn't your fce require a link to be created, to create popup, rather than embedding the video in the main page?
18:56 sw_bluntman Maybe I'm not thinking clearly :-P
18:57 kreegee doesn't matter if you embed a link or the movie
18:57 kreegee if you want it cheap you simply change onclick to onload :P
18:57 kreegee sry, gotta go
18:57 kreegee bye
18:58 sw_bluntman bye. Ty
19:19 techgurufloyd Does anyone know of some document or something exlaining the typo3's take on HTML5?
19:21 techgurufloyd Specifically has any work been done to use HTML 5 in typo3?
19:28 tmeixner lilalinux: you received an answer regarding your salted passwords?
19:30 tmeixner I was offline so I can't tell :-)
19:34 lilalinux tmeixner: no
19:34 lilalinux nothing
19:35 tmeixner ohh - power just went off so If I leave again don't blame me...
19:35 tmeixner let's see whether the UPS was worth the buy :-)
19:36 lilalinux :-)
19:36 tmeixner how do salted passwords work? I'm using kb_md5 encrypted passwords which is a javascript in the browser
19:37 tmeixner it sends the encrypted password with a challenge to the server and the password is md5 encrypted in the database.
19:37 lilalinux tmeixner: usually salted means, that the username is combined with the password and then the result is hashed
19:37 ckoehler the salt just adds a random factor to it
19:37 ckoehler it can be anything
19:37 tmeixner I though that was the way the kb md5 extension worked.
19:37 ckoehler and should probably change
19:38 ckoehler so that when the same user logs in with the same password more than once, the stuff transmitted over the wire is different
19:38 ckoehler actually, it doesn't have to change
19:39 lilalinux brb
19:39 tmeixner From what I gathered the extension salted password in the TER does that but on the server, that means a man in the middle can still sniff your pwd.
19:41 tmeixner power still off ... big truck on the road. I think I call it a day.
19:48 lous hi guys
19:48 lous does anyone know the paymentlib "ipayment" for tt_products?
20:48 lous i got a "latest news" box and in the header of this box i put a minus sign, if somebody clicks on it, he can disable this box and also enable (display: none and block). Now my question is, is it possible, if somebody is loged in, that typo3 save the enable/disable thing in a cookie for each user?
20:49 lous would be so nice if somebody could help me and if somebody dont understand my question, i will try to explain it a bit better :)
20:56 lous please :(
21:26 lilalinux lous: so you want to store it in a session?
21:27 lous ya
21:27 lilalinux lous: maybe this extension can help you: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/kb_ts_session/current/
21:28 lilalinux "This extension allows you store a variable submitted via GET parameters in the TYPO3 session variables"
21:29 lous at first, lilalinux i thank you sooo much that your the only one whos helping me :)
21:29 lous i really appreciate that
21:29 lous but
21:30 lilalinux lous: many in here are from europe, and it's evening here
21:30 lilalinux that's why noone is answering
21:31 lous im also from eu :D
21:31 lilalinux oh, ein oesi :-)
21:31 lous deutsch
21:31 lous :)
21:31 lilalinux icq?
21:32 lous 271076552
21:32 lilalinux hm, ichat doesn support authorization handling?
21:32 lilalinux WTF
21:33 lous sorry? What? :D
21:33 lilalinux wait a second
21:33 lous sure
21:39 ckoehler lilalinux: that's why every self-respecting IM user on OSX uses adium
21:39 lilalinux ckoehler: yes, that's what I did too
21:39 lilalinux but
21:40 lilalinux iChat supports screensharing and audio/video chat over icq and jabber
21:40 lilalinux and I use that alot
21:42 lilalinux and adium won't have that in the next decade
21:42 ckoehler that's what i use skype for
21:42 lilalinux skype is even worse than ichat :-)
21:42 ckoehler i beg to differ
21:44 lilalinux I prefer to have all of that under one hood
21:44 lilalinux and I don't require ppl to register yet another account
21:44 ckoehler not always possible. skype seems to be the preferred choice for business IM
21:44 ckoehler at least in the US
21:44 lilalinux you have icq? fine. you have jabber? fine.
21:45 lilalinux two wrongs don't make one right :-)
21:49 lous does anyone have clue of javascript? (just how to set cookie) cause i cant join #javascript
22:09 timdeluxe lous: it is decades ago i did that, but i think document.cookie is your friend
22:10 timdeluxe just google a bit around for a howto in your preferred language
22:13 lous ya im reading already :)
22:13 lous thanks timdeluxe
22:16 lous anyway, i give up. Its to complicated :(
22:17 timdeluxe what did you want to do?
22:17 lous can i query you?
22:19 timdeluxe i think so
23:10 techgurufloyd Does typo3 cache pages in the draft workspace? If not, that means that searches will always come up blank right?
23:53 lilalinux techgurufloyd: I don't know much about searches in typo3, but I heard there is a crawler to help for uncached pages
23:54 techgurufloyd yah. I'm looking at that now. I think that it just doesn't index pages while they are in the draft workspace, only when they go to the live workspace, which is fine.
23:55 techgurufloyd If you haven't used crawler then you probably haven't seen bug 5548 either?
23:55 techgurufloyd Where do I add comments in bugs.t3.org?...
23:58 techgurufloyd there's a simpler fix than the one they included... but oh well.

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