| 00:21 |
dinsdale07 |
has anyone yet used payment_lib ? |
| 00:21 |
dinsdale07 |
I want to know how time intensive it is to get configured. |
| 00:35 |
HardPhuc |
anyone alive? |
| 00:43 |
dinsdale07 |
just borderline ... |
| 00:52 |
HardPhuc |
i have an editor account, when i try to unlink an element, nothing happens |
| 00:53 |
dinsdale07 |
sure sounds like a permission problem - but which permission ...?? |
| 00:54 |
HardPhuc |
well i can see the icon, click it, and i get asked if im sure |
| 00:54 |
HardPhuc |
but when i click yes nothing happens |
| 02:01 |
nhaskins |
I'm using a shared hosting account. I've been operating with my main site in plain HTML and another site in running Typo3 in a sub directory while I've been preparing my main site in Typo3. I'm wondering if I can copy my Typo3 install out of the subdirectory into my top level and have it continue to function. |
| 02:23 |
nhaskins |
Yes, it worked |
| 09:03 |
_pedda_ |
hi all |
| 09:25 |
maholtz|WORK |
morning |
| 09:26 |
drindt |
good morning |
| 09:27 |
drindt |
i want avoid that be users can delete fe users so i get information from mailinglist thats done probably via a hook in tcemain, someone can point me please to a doc or get me a hint? |
| 09:27 |
_pedda_ |
moin maholtz|WORK :) |
| 09:58 |
dec__ |
theres no images in the direct_mail manual anymore :/ anyone got a mirror? |
| 09:58 |
maholtz|WORK |
@dec__: there should be an doc/manual.sxw file in the extension folder:) |
| 09:58 |
dec__ |
ahhh ofcourse |
| 10:01 |
mangan |
Hello everybody. Does anybody know how to put an array submittd by a form into a typoscript abject and render it? |
| 10:02 |
Denyerec |
Oooh boy |
| 10:02 |
Denyerec |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_4a4O7kXQo <-- that just about made my day |
| 10:02 |
Denyerec |
and it's only 0903 |
| 10:18 |
dec__ |
its not possible to have a poll within a html mail, no? you cant send post data in mails can you, better to place a link on the page? |
| 10:27 |
maholtz|WORK |
@mangan: getText: .data = GPvar:fields|email |
| 10:36 |
ockmonix |
hi |
| 10:37 |
ockmonix |
is it possible to wrap tt_content.textpic elements with optionsplit? |
| 10:40 |
mangan |
I think I just need a very small hint: When I return a COA object for a USER cObject, only "array" but not the content itself gets displayed. How can I solve this? |
| 10:43 |
lawl_ |
hey guys, have you ever had the problem, that a typo3 page contains a string "typo3" at the top of each page? it's even before the "<?xml..."-tag and it doesn't come from the template... |
| 10:44 |
maholtz|WORK |
@ockmonix: its possible - render them with an marker and then use split to split them again - there you can use optionsplit - and dont forget to put your snippet on snippets.typo3.org |
| 10:45 |
maholtz|WORK |
@lawl_: typicall it comes from an extension |
| 10:46 |
maholtz|WORK |
perhaps check temp_* files if you have there an echo 'typo3' or something like it |
| 10:48 |
lawl_ |
yes there seems to be a prblem with real url at the moment. where can i find the temp_ files? |
| 10:48 |
lawl_ |
*problem |
| 10:54 |
sebke |
is templavoila recommended over the default typo3 tpl engine? |
| 10:55 |
dec__ |
yes |
| 10:56 |
sebke |
and the tutorials on the typo3 site, are they still relevant? because they are a few years old |
| 10:56 |
dec__ |
the templavoila tutorial is decent yeah |
| 10:57 |
sebke |
I mean the other ones as well |
| 10:58 |
dec__ |
not sure about those |
| 10:58 |
maholtz|WORK |
@lawl_: typo3conf/ |
| 10:58 |
sebke |
ok thx dec__ :) |
| 11:02 |
lawl_ |
thanks maholtz. but there is no echo or print in those files |
| 11:05 |
maholtz|WORK |
so, you have to check your extensions |
| 11:09 |
lawl_ |
maybe it's because someone installed a new version of templa voila |
| 11:20 |
ockmonix |
is it possible to wrap all tt_content.textpic elements differently with optionsplit |
| 11:22 |
maholtz|WORK |
sure, but would make no sense - what do you really want to do? |
| 11:24 |
maholtz|WORK |
@lawl_: perhaps - the most times that error is there because someone puts the string outside <?php ... ?> |
| 11:25 |
sebke |
Is automaketemplate still used these days? |
| 11:27 |
maholtz|WORK |
@sebke: templavoila or automaketemplate i guess |
| 11:28 |
dec__ |
seriously would recommend templavoila though |
| 11:28 |
nif |
but is automaketemplate good as a starter? |
| 11:28 |
maholtz|WORK |
imho yes |
| 11:28 |
dec__ |
i personally find it more complicated than templavoila |
| 11:28 |
nif |
but not for the serious work then |
| 11:28 |
dec__ |
to get a basic template parsed |
| 11:29 |
maholtz|WORK |
well templavoila is good to get quick an nice result, but hard to understand typo3 |
| 11:29 |
dec__ |
hello world is easier with automaketemplate but that's about it :p |
| 11:31 |
nif |
does everybody share this opinion? |
| 11:32 |
maholtz|WORK |
@nif: there are two opinions |
| 11:32 |
maholtz|WORK |
there are many who said: never without templavoila and on the otherside many who says: never with or i do not need |
| 11:33 |
maholtz|WORK |
its harder to understand typoscript with templavoila |
| 11:33 |
maholtz|WORK |
if you have special layout, use templavoila, otherwise not, thats what i think |
| 11:34 |
nif |
define: special layout :) |
| 11:35 |
ockmonix |
@maholtz: how can i wrap them? |
| 11:35 |
maholtz|WORK |
@ockmonix: have a look at CONTENT and renderObj |
| 11:42 |
drindt |
iam still searching for a solution to avoid that be user deletes fe user records, so i have used a hook for processDatamap but that isnt handled when deleting a user record, someone can please help me out? |
| 11:44 |
ockmonix |
i only want to have textpic elements wrapped with a div container |
| 11:44 |
ockmonix |
sry, all textpic elements show be wrapped completely |
| 12:15 |
mangan |
Please help. I almost give up. I have cObject something = TEXT, something.data = GPvar: array .... I could use array | item to display a single item of the postvar array but I need all items. How can this be done? |
| 12:16 |
maholtz|WORK |
@drindt: there is a hook inside tt_news which cares for categories |
| 12:17 |
drindt |
maholtz|WORK: yes i know but that context does not handle the deletion of records |
| 12:17 |
maholtz|WORK |
@drindt: sure? |
| 12:18 |
maholtz|WORK |
@mangan: paste your code into pastebin: first step, read out simple variable from get index.php?id=1&myvar=hello |
| 12:18 |
drindt |
maholtz|WORK: yes, did you read the german t3 list? :) show my last post for some seconds ago |
| 12:18 |
maholtz|WORK |
page.10 = TEXT |
| 12:18 |
maholtz|WORK |
page.10.data = GPvar:myvar |
| 12:21 |
kreegee |
hello |
| 12:21 |
kreegee |
somebody knows a mailform with confirmation-url email ? |
| 12:21 |
kreegee |
feuserregister has this |
| 12:21 |
kreegee |
but it's not really a good fit |
| 12:22 |
mangan |
@maholtz: thanks. my problem are arrays, single get/post values work fine |
| 12:22 |
maholtz|WORK |
so use | to get array vars |
| 12:23 |
Denyerec |
Hey chaps |
| 12:24 |
mangan |
@mangan: http://pastebin.com/d6377f052 - with "|" i can get array vars, yes, but i need all of them, like a loop with a wrap |
| 12:24 |
mangan |
@maholtz: I tried to solve it with a userfunc and simple GPvar |
| 12:25 |
maholtz|WORK |
use typoscript instead |
| 12:25 |
mangan |
@maholtz: both only shows the string "array" |
| 12:26 |
maholtz|WORK |
in html form: name="zustaendigkeit[username]" value = "10" |
| 12:26 |
maholtz|WORK |
you get it via GPvar:zustaendigkeit|username |
| 12:26 |
maholtz|WORK |
check typos |
| 12:27 |
mangan |
belive me: I checked a very lot. The array comes from a mailform and looks like: [zustaendigkeit] => Array ( [830] => 1 [1001] => 1 [690] => 1 |
| 12:27 |
drindt |
maholtz|WORK: i not thinked about the jscripts around the <img> :) so 'tce_db.php' is the handler for the cmd |
| 12:28 |
mangan |
the problem is that 830/1001/690 and so on are not fix but variable so I cannot use them with "|" to get the values |
| 12:28 |
maholtz|WORK |
ok, that is a different point |
| 12:29 |
mangan |
so I'm not sure if it can be done with typoscript alone |
| 12:30 |
kreegee |
hm, nobody got any idea about my mailform problem? |
| 12:30 |
maholtz|WORK |
well, if you do not know 830/1001/690 it would be difficult |
| 12:30 |
NublaII |
I'm trying to put up a last update timestamp on the main page (and only on the main page) that reflects the last change anywhere on the site |
| 12:30 |
mangan |
@maholtz: see my second try with userfunc: http://pastebin.com/d25721666 |
| 12:31 |
NublaII |
I've tried both ts_lastupdate and lastupdate extensions, but both of them seem to work only on the current page |
| 12:31 |
NublaII |
anybody tried something like this? |
| 12:31 |
maholtz|WORK |
@mangan: t3lib_div::_POST afaik and you have to return content not conf |
| 12:32 |
maholtz|WORK |
@NublaII: you want the last update timestamp from all your pages? so have a look at HMENU |
| 12:33 |
NublaII |
I just want 1 timestamp (on the main page) that lets you know that some content has been updated on the site... |
| 12:33 |
maholtz|WORK |
install tool - scaling images - step 3 "GIF to JPG, 150 pixels wide" renders black background color instead white. Any hints why? |
| 12:34 |
NublaII |
is that what you mean? |
| 12:34 |
maholtz|WORK |
yep |
| 12:34 |
maholtz|WORK |
get last updated page via hmenu |
| 12:34 |
maholtz|WORK |
section special |
| 12:34 |
NublaII |
but that reflects page updates or content and page updates? |
| 12:35 |
NublaII |
or does the content updates affect page updates? |
| 12:36 |
NublaII |
I'm looking at the sample you added on the typo3 site... will that show up if I don't modify a page but I DO modify a content on that page? |
| 12:40 |
maholtz|WORK |
? which sample? anyway: yes it should |
| 12:40 |
NublaII |
http://support.typo3.org/snippets/c/109/ |
| 12:45 |
maholtz|WORK |
so, does it work? read TSref -> HMENU about SYS_LASTCHANGED there are some different options, and dont forget to rate and/or comment the snippet:) |
| 12:46 |
NublaII |
it does give me a list of pages, but I just want the timestamp of the last one... |
| 12:47 |
NublaII |
I don't even want the url... |
| 12:47 |
NublaII |
... gonna read the tsref |
| 12:50 |
maholtz|WORK |
@NublaII: doNotLinkIt = 1 |
| 12:50 |
maholtz|WORK |
but thats all basic menu stuff, you should be able to do what you want with TSref open:) |
| 13:08 |
nif |
does anybody know why I cant see my menu? http://pastebin.com/d24a81338 |
| 13:10 |
nif |
hmm nvm |
| 13:12 |
maholtz|WORK |
you did not added it to any marker? |
| 13:16 |
nif |
needed to do things like subparts.menu_1 < temp.menu_1 |
| 13:21 |
drindt |
maholtz|WORK: found for what iam searched its the processCmdmap_preProcess thingy :) can you get me a hint where to check the BE user details? if that is admin flag has set? |
| 13:37 |
maholtz|WORK |
@drindt: check $_GLOBALS['BE_USER'] |
| 13:38 |
drindt |
maholtz|WORK: many thanks i forgott the $_ prefix :S |
| 13:38 |
dexcs |
hi all |
| 13:39 |
dexcs |
is it possible to do an "if" on a border in typoscript? I know how to do it with layout of a page, but not with the border of a content element.... |
| 13:39 |
drindt |
maholtz|WORK: hehe $GLOBALS['BE_USER'] is right :) thanks |
| 13:40 |
maholtz|WORK |
good to know;) |
| 13:47 |
maholtz|WORK |
@dexcs: so you do want to do it only on "left column" but not at normal or right? |
| 13:48 |
maholtz|WORK |
yep, its possible - but you have to add it to CONTENT -> renderObj then |
| 13:49 |
dexcs |
hmm. it should be possible to do it on every column |
| 13:50 |
maholtz|WORK |
then i do not understand right? what do you want to do? what means "border" ? |
| 13:50 |
dexcs |
if i choose the border "border 1 " i want to kick all wraps and divs and stuff out |
| 13:50 |
dexcs |
sry translation error ;-) i meant "Frame" |
| 13:51 |
maholtz|WORK |
section_frame |
| 13:51 |
dexcs |
yep |
| 13:53 |
maholtz|WORK |
so, you want to do f.e. something special on textpix if section_frame = 0? so go to tt_content.20.textpix... and search for stdWrap and use there if |
| 13:53 |
dexcs |
ok thanks, i will try |
| 13:58 |
jbaptiste_j |
I'm reaing the doc that comes with tt_news, but I'm puzzled, is there a step by step tutorial about how to get my first news online ? |
| 13:58 |
jbaptiste_j |
reaing --> reading |
| 14:05 |
mangan |
hello again, I think the important point was cObjGetSingle .. please revisit http://pastebin.com/d1798c2e3 to see my solution so far |
| 14:06 |
maholtz|WORK |
looks good, but you do not need $conf['10'] use $conf = 'COA'; $conf[$newItem] = 'TEXT' (should be enough) |
| 14:07 |
maholtz|WORK |
and put $conf = 'COA' outside of foreach |
| 14:07 |
maholtz|WORK |
but thats only cosmetic |
| 14:09 |
mangan |
not completely cosmetic ... for any reason the output now is in one line. You know why? |
| 14:11 |
mangan |
but thanks anyway maholtz, you kept me going :-) |
| 14:11 |
maholtz|WORK |
@mangan: you have no br, so the output should be oneline... |
| 14:13 |
mangan |
@maholtz: and cObj "USER" has no stdwrap to do it there |
| 14:22 |
maholtz|WORK |
but COA has, and TEXT has, that what you use and you should get the config parameters you set on your USER obj inside your php function |
| 14:34 |
Bluespuke |
hi |
| 14:35 |
Bluespuke |
i'm looking for a (font-end?) plugin to gather members and add them to different FE-Groups, any purposes? |
| 14:35 |
Bluespuke |
and also gain them access to the forum, restricted areas,... |
| 14:40 |
drindt |
i have a weird behavior, my be user is allowed to modify fe_users table, and when i want deleting as be user they delete the record properly but the be shows me a message and tell me that i have no permissions :) somone knows about? |
| 14:53 |
fred^ |
hola |
| 14:53 |
fred^ |
is there a globalvar to check against what tt_news category the selected news item are within? |
| 15:10 |
nkuttler |
Bluespuke: you don't need a plugin for that |
| 15:17 |
Bluespuke |
nkuttler: so i just use the frontend registration? |
| 15:20 |
daKmoR |
howto get the pageproperties images in TS? |
| 15:35 |
_pedda_ |
does anyone know how to get more than 500 entries from the sys_log ? |
| 15:36 |
_pedda_ |
in BE |
| 15:52 |
maholtz|WORK |
@_pedda_ perhaps you find some hints on tsconfig |
| 15:53 |
_pedda_ |
modified the core.. |
| 15:54 |
_pedda_ |
did the job |
| 15:54 |
_pedda_ |
changed the param 500 to 5000 for the selectbox |
| 16:13 |
nkuttler |
Bluespuke: no idea how frontend registration handles group memberships, but i'm confident that you can configure it to add users to groups. |
| 16:24 |
drindt |
is it possible to handle in the tca when a fiels is modified (onChange) that a popup appears? |
| 16:53 |
dinsdale07 |
setting up domains in typo3, is it not enough to have domain.com as record - do I also need www.domain.com as record? |
| 16:54 |
untouch_ |
if my backend users add new sites to the tree, how come they are not set to hidden as default like if i as admin do it? |
| 16:54 |
nkuttler |
dinsdale07: i'd solve that at a lower level in the httpd config |
| 16:55 |
nkuttler |
dinsdale07: redirect foo.com -> www.foo.com |
| 16:55 |
dinsdale07 |
I think I already have domain.com forwards to www.domain.com -> for SEO |
| 16:55 |
nkuttler |
dinsdale07: well, then you don't need to worry about it |
| 16:55 |
dinsdale07 |
ok - u just said it. - But now I need www.domain.com as record in typo3? |
| 16:55 |
nkuttler |
dinsdale07: not sure. does typo3 work if you only use domain.com? |
| 16:56 |
Pepelargo |
Hi |
| 16:56 |
nkuttler |
dinsdale07: i'd guess typo3 respects subdomains in the domain records |
| 16:56 |
dinsdale07 |
no - it shows the first domain this installation is configured with. It would be nice to have an expression that responds to nomaytterwhat.domain.com |
| 16:56 |
Pepelargo |
Is there anyway to disable a site and force it to forward or the queries to another one? THANKS |
| 16:56 |
nkuttler |
dinsdale07: but you said you already redirect at httpd level |
| 16:56 |
Pepelargo |
Is there anyway to disable a site and force it to forward *all the queries to another one? THANKS |
| 16:57 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: 301 redirect? |
| 16:57 |
dinsdale07 |
yes - but just in case :-) and make the installation more errorproove. |
| 16:58 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, There is a site we have, that is necessary to disable for a while, and forward all the queries to another new one we created |
| 16:58 |
nkuttler |
dinsdale07: well, add a virtual host with ServerAlias *.domain.com and 301 it to www.domain.com |
| 16:58 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, what do you mean with 301? |
| 16:58 |
nkuttler |
dinsdale07: that catches _all_ subdomains |
| 16:58 |
dinsdale07 |
lets see whether that works in ispconfig too. |
| 16:59 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: apache? |
| 17:00 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, the web site is in a ISP provider, I cant access to apache configuration file man |
| 17:01 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: then do the redirect in php i guess |
| 17:01 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, I changed the root page to LINK EXTERNAL URL, will that work for google queires? |
| 17:03 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: read about redirects, 301, 301 and how to do them in php. remove typo3's index.php |
| 17:03 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: 302 |
| 17:03 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, but doing the LINK to external URL to the root page doesn't work? |
| 17:03 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, we don't want to delete anything from the original site, we just want to suspend it for a while |
| 17:05 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: no idea. index.php is just a symlink, doesn't hurt anybody to remove it |
| 17:06 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, The thing is that google has cached some part of the site we want to dissable. My question is if Typo3 is forwarding everything to another site, will it forard this links too? |
| 17:10 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, ok, it is not working with images, the links to upload are still there |
| 17:10 |
Pepelargo |
so is there anyway to avoid this?? |
| 17:12 |
Pepelargo |
Is there anyway to disable access to the upload folder then? |
| 17:14 |
Pepelargo |
I guess that puting a htacess. file in fileadmin folder forwarding to another web site would work right? |
| 17:19 |
Pepelargo |
ok, so If I delete de index.php how are the queries to the user upload folder will be forbidden |
| 17:19 |
Pepelargo |
? |
| 17:24 |
twoten |
what's a really good forum extension for typo3? |
| 17:28 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: mod_rewrite |
| 17:29 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: actually, can you use a .htaccess? if so, do a 302 to the new domain |
| 17:30 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, yes, I have access to the .htacess of all the folders in typo3 |
| 17:30 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, but I don't know how to do a 301 |
| 17:30 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: you want a 302. google htaccess 302 or something like that. it's enough to put it in the / directory |
| 17:32 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, ok mate, setting up the root page of typo3 as LINK EXTERNAL URL works, but the users can still access to the pictures sotred in the user upload folder |
| 17:34 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, my question is now that if I set the 302 for the entire site, I wont be able to access the typo3 backend too, right? |
| 17:35 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, right, stupid question |
| 17:37 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, the 302 is working fine, but there is a problem: |
| 17:37 |
Pepelargo |
I put in the .htaccess fiel this: Redirect / http://www.othesite.com/ |
| 17:37 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, the problem is that if the user tries to do this: www.oldsite.com/indepx.php?id=1 |
| 17:38 |
Pepelargo |
then the 302 will forward to this: http://www.newsite.com/index.php?id=1, where that id doesn0t exist |
| 17:38 |
twoten |
in my backend, the front page keeps appearing in my details pane, how do I get rid of it and get back to details? |
| 17:38 |
Pepelargo |
I want just to redirect to http://www.newsite.php |
| 17:38 |
Pepelargo |
*I want just to redirect to http://www.newsite.com |
| 17:42 |
nature |
denyer? |
| 17:45 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: ah. i guess mod_rewrite can do that. too bad you don't have access to your httpd config |
| 17:46 |
Denyerec |
Hey nature |
| 17:47 |
twoten |
how do I stop the front page from appearing in the datails pane in my backend? |
| 17:52 |
nature |
hey |
| 17:52 |
nature |
man... I need some help on something |
| 17:53 |
twoten |
hoh |
| 17:53 |
nature |
it's driving me totally nuts |
| 17:53 |
twoten |
join the club |
| 17:55 |
nature |
http://www.giftwarenews.com/news-trends/lead-news-item/article/this-just-in-crazy-mountain-shuts-its-doors.html |
| 17:55 |
nature |
http://www.hfnmag.com/news-trends/headline-news/article/florence-to-keynote-housewares-show.html?tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=1&cHash=52852c8232 |
| 17:55 |
nature |
giftware was a copy of hfn |
| 17:55 |
nature |
but giftware doesn't have all that backpid crap |
| 17:56 |
nature |
i need to get rid of that stuff |
| 17:56 |
nature |
both urls are tt_news articles |
| 17:58 |
eduardo |
Does anybody know about typo3 being used in a web to print scenario? |
| 18:00 |
dinsdale07 |
any freelance extension developers here? - I have to give a number of hours for an extension to develop to provide a form with ca 20 fields, store this information in the database and link it to the fe_user table and frontend register (one user can have several dataforms associated). What is a reasonable amount of hours to plan for such a project? This would be my first extension from scratch so your guess will probably be |
| 18:00 |
dinsdale07 |
better than mine! |
| 18:03 |
nature |
denyer always goes to be right when i wake up |
| 18:04 |
Denyerec |
lo |
| 18:04 |
nature |
haha |
| 18:04 |
Denyerec |
I keep getting called away |
| 18:05 |
nature |
RealURL and me just don't get along |
| 18:05 |
nature |
it hates me |
| 18:07 |
Denyerec |
hmm |
| 18:07 |
Denyerec |
nature have you updated realURL to the latest version |
| 18:07 |
Denyerec |
I rememeber having trouble with tt_news and RealURL |
| 18:08 |
Denyerec |
and I think the mailling list will be the best option, Dmitry reads that and is sure to be able to help |
| 18:08 |
dinsdale07 |
writing quotes for a project always feels like playing poker ... |
| 18:08 |
twoten |
I kept getting my front page displayed in my back end, then a million database warnings, so I updated the db tables from the db analyzer and that fixed it |
| 18:08 |
nature |
well |
| 18:08 |
nature |
gwn isn't running the latest version |
| 18:09 |
nature |
and actually i can't update |
| 18:09 |
nature |
as it requires php5 |
| 18:09 |
nature |
and our system has a program running on it that isn't ready for php5 |
| 18:09 |
maholtz680 |
re |
| 18:09 |
twoten |
ro |
| 18:10 |
theconic |
hi all, last year in oktober i read about typo3 4.3 coming out in februar '09... is there any news on that? |
| 18:11 |
twoten |
damn thing is back, is there any way to ban the front page from appearing in the back end? |
| 18:11 |
theconic |
i need this new frontend editing so badly... ;) |
| 18:11 |
dinsdale07 |
I think they are in alpha 3 now so I think it's still a way to go. The fe editing will be a seperate extension anyway. I don't think it will be released at the same time as 4.3 |
| 18:12 |
theconic |
hm... |
| 18:12 |
theconic |
that's new to me... |
| 18:12 |
ckoehler |
FE editing will be in the core |
| 18:12 |
ckoehler |
gah, get your facts right dinsdale07 :) |
| 18:13 |
theconic |
ok, didn't want to start a discussion about that ;) |
| 18:13 |
dinsdale07 |
what was that video which was released then about FE editing being released from a company which was hired from the WEC guys. I saw it about a month ago. |
| 18:13 |
ckoehler |
hmm |
| 18:14 |
ckoehler |
you are partly right |
| 18:14 |
ckoehler |
there is a bunch of core stuff |
| 18:14 |
ckoehler |
so you could add your own controllers and stuff |
| 18:14 |
ckoehler |
and TV will ship with the TV controller |
| 18:15 |
ckoehler |
core will have the default controller |
| 18:15 |
dinsdale07 |
ckoehler, I think I missunderstood. Here is the announcement I rememberd. http://jeffsegars.com/2008/10/19/frontend-editing-for-typo3-43/ |
| 18:15 |
maholtz680 |
fyi: TYPO3 4.3-alpha2 on March 8th 2009 |
| 18:16 |
dinsdale07 |
So yes - I appologize :-) |
| 18:16 |
ckoehler |
dinsdale07: nah you're partly right |
| 18:16 |
ckoehler |
innerecho just did the mockups |
| 18:16 |
ckoehler |
WEC does all the coding |
| 18:17 |
twoten |
could it be the firefox backend bug? it seems to do the same thing in konqueror ... |
| 18:20 |
dinsdale07 |
ckoehler, are there WEC members in the core team? |
| 18:20 |
ckoehler |
yes |
| 18:20 |
ckoehler |
jeff segars |
| 18:21 |
ckoehler |
and mark stephenson is part of the association |
| 18:22 |
dinsdale07 |
I'm subsribed to the core list but there are just too many numbers for me to be able to keep up to date :-) |
| 18:23 |
ckoehler |
ya i just skim through them |
| 18:32 |
twoten |
anyone here ever used yaml? |
| 18:33 |
timdeluxe |
twoten: yes |
| 18:33 |
eduardo |
Does anybody know about typo3 being used in a web to print scenario? |
| 18:33 |
dinsdale07 |
twoten, yes ... but not anoy longer |
| 18:34 |
untouch_ |
anyone know how to enable filelist in draftview? |
| 18:34 |
twoten |
I need to get a site off the ground and was attracted to yaml, but I'm hitting problems, maybe I should go with a "norma" server install and get the dummy package ... |
| 18:35 |
twoten |
normal - fantastico |
| 18:37 |
dinsdale07 |
twoten, my experience is twofolded. If you stay in the layout possibilities of yaml you save yourself the mapping process. It also comes with a usable menu so it is a fast way of getting something usable almost out of the box or work at the same time with a layouter who already knows yaml. |
| 18:38 |
twoten |
dinsdale07: and the flexible content elements are very attractive |
| 18:39 |
dinsdale07 |
on the other hand I find the imports of little css snippets unescessary. Also the process of overwriting ts or css adds bloat to your codebasis. |
| 18:39 |
timdeluxe |
twoten: its great, when your design skills and have no designer around ;) but i only used it for a non-profit website... |
| 18:39 |
timdeluxe |
+"are not very high" |
| 18:41 |
twoten |
ok, I'm going to reinstall yaml in a different way and hopefully my backend problems will disappear |
| 18:41 |
dinsdale07 |
and I found it to be limiting in the design possibilities, after all it's more of a basic box layout which you divide into smaller boxes again. |
| 18:41 |
twoten |
can you jettison the yaml stuff at a later date and head out on your own? |
| 18:42 |
dinsdale07 |
you always have the possibilities to use the content dividers by just importing those in a t3d. I just created my own Dividers using tables for newsletters. |
| 18:43 |
twoten |
I know what to do now, as usual I've bitten off mare than I can chew, must learn to crawl first ... |
| 18:44 |
ckoehler |
isn't yaml just a simple markup language? |
| 18:44 |
ckoehler |
i use it for config files for ruby scripts |
| 18:44 |
twoten |
that's a different yaml |
| 18:44 |
dinsdale07 |
the yaml we talk about = yet another multicolumn layout |
| 18:46 |
ckoehler |
aah |
| 18:46 |
ckoehler |
i've seen some cool new template stuff |
| 18:46 |
ckoehler |
tv fce based |
| 18:46 |
ckoehler |
but you can do snazzy stuff |
| 18:46 |
ckoehler |
anyway, gotta go |
| 18:48 |
dinsdale07 |
twoten, My experience is that I learned a lot by using yaml since it is a ready made installation and you learn some tricks how it's integrated in typo3. So maybe it's not too bad a place to start. |
| 18:49 |
twoten |
thanks for the most timely advice, I'm fighting it out with the installer right now, I've beaten it before, I shall win again |
| 18:49 |
untouch_ |
anyone know why i cannot move content elements in the draft workspace? |
| 18:50 |
dinsdale07 |
now I want to more explore other possibilities since T3 is not that frightening to me any more and IMO I don't think yaml is a good choice for high traffic websites. |
| 18:52 |
twoten |
is yaml slow? I kind of noticed that ... |
| 18:54 |
dinsdale07 |
I wouldn't say yaml is slow as such but look at all the small css files it imports and the bloat it adds. I think it would be better to have one big file for webserver performace reasons and be able to remove unescessary css. |
| 18:55 |
twoten |
interesting |
| 18:56 |
dinsdale07 |
These are probably you usually don't consider when you have a small moderately visited website. There it's more important to be as time efficient as possible and there I think yaml can have an advantage. |
| 18:56 |
dinsdale07 |
s/probably/problems |
| 18:58 |
twoten |
I think my site will get a lot of traffic once it's up, I'm going to do the dummy package install |
| 19:39 |
twoten |
I've got the source and dummy packages installed (I'm a total newbie) do I start by writing a typoscript template? use templavoila to connect to a generic template? play around with the builtins? |
| 19:46 |
ckoehler |
twoten: get some TV templates from somewhere |
| 19:46 |
ckoehler |
http://demo.webempoweredchurch.com/ |
| 19:53 |
dinsdale07 |
wow - this extension to just swap the design is awsome! |
| 19:56 |
ckoehler |
thanks |
| 19:56 |
dinsdale07 |
twoten, I would also recommend if you are using templavoila to read through the futuristic template building tutorial. typo3.org - documentation |
| 19:57 |
dinsdale07 |
ckoehler, did you write this ext? |
| 19:58 |
twoten |
I've read that tutorial, I'll get some tv templates |
| 19:58 |
ckoehler |
dinsdale07: no, i think jeff did |
| 19:59 |
dinsdale07 |
ur part of the WEC? |
| 19:59 |
ckoehler |
yeah |
| 20:00 |
ckoehler |
you're from canada? |
| 20:00 |
dinsdale07 |
u guys don't stop to amaze me :-) |
| 20:00 |
dinsdale07 |
yep - Quebec. But I'm origin german. |
| 20:00 |
twoten |
yup, from Toronto |
| 20:01 |
ckoehler |
ah two canadians |
| 20:01 |
ckoehler |
dinsdale07: so why canada? I am German, too, living in the US |
| 20:02 |
dinsdale07 |
That's how I learned about TYPO3, the community in Germany is much bigger than here in CA. |
| 20:02 |
ckoehler |
you guys coming to t3con09-dallas? |
| 20:02 |
dinsdale07 |
ckoehler, blame my girlfriend - she convinced me to come here when we met in France. |
| 20:03 |
ckoehler |
i moved here to get married |
| 20:03 |
dinsdale07 |
I wish I could. But I don't think there are still places and it's not exactly in my budget atm. |
| 20:03 |
ckoehler |
pretty sure there's still room |
| 20:03 |
ckoehler |
but yeah, may be kinda high |
| 20:04 |
dinsdale07 |
so you're American citizen too now? |
| 20:05 |
ckoehler |
no |
| 20:05 |
dinsdale07 |
I started watching the T3CON08 DVDs. It would be pretty interesting meeting people in person. How much do you think it would cost? |
| 20:05 |
ckoehler |
not yet |
| 20:05 |
ckoehler |
dinsdale07: http://t3con09-dallas.typo3.org/home.html |
| 20:07 |
dinsdale07 |
right continent this time but still 3300km away from my location. |
| 20:07 |
ckoehler |
ya i bet flight would be the highest |
| 20:09 |
ckoehler |
well |
| 20:09 |
ckoehler |
not bad |
| 20:09 |
dinsdale07 |
I don't think it will work out this time - real bummer since to my knowledge most T3 conferences usually are in Europe, especially Germany. |
| 20:09 |
ckoehler |
$310 |
| 20:10 |
ckoehler |
there will be more in the US from now on |
| 20:10 |
ckoehler |
this one is the pilot |
| 20:11 |
ckoehler |
trying to get a lot of people to attend |
| 20:11 |
ckoehler |
and going from there |
| 20:11 |
ckoehler |
ah sorry, the link expired |
| 20:11 |
ckoehler |
just search on farecast.com |
| 20:12 |
dinsdale07 |
I'm really tempted ... :-) do you know how many people will be expected there? |
| 20:15 |
twoten |
I'm a newbie, typo3 is very intimidating but I know it's the most inspired design |
| 20:15 |
ckoehler |
i tihnk we have maybe.... 30 or so |
| 20:15 |
twoten |
I'm determined to slug it out and defeat the beast! |
| 20:15 |
ckoehler |
gotta go |
| 20:15 |
ckoehler |
be back in a bit |
| 20:22 |
ckoehler |
back |
| 20:22 |
ckoehler |
twoten: the problem with typo3 is that it's so old |
| 20:22 |
ckoehler |
so there is some really old, bad code in there |
| 20:39 |
twoten |
really? the only other free cms that I've seen that comes close is modx, and they don't have a forum module |
| 20:40 |
ckoehler |
oh don't get me wrong, it's really powerful |
| 20:40 |
ckoehler |
there are just usability issues |
| 20:40 |
ckoehler |
because of the old code |
| 20:41 |
ckoehler |
but that's been worked on for a while |
| 20:41 |
ckoehler |
and it's getting much better |
| 20:44 |
twoten |
one day all the old code willbe gone, and we can all cry |
| 20:44 |
twoten |
Victory! |
| 20:47 |
nkuttler |
has work on typo3 5.0 already begun? |
| 20:47 |
nkuttler |
this flow3 thing can already be used, can't it? |
| 20:48 |
ckoehler |
work on 5.0 has begun |
| 20:48 |
ckoehler |
well |
| 20:48 |
ckoehler |
as part of flow3 |
| 20:49 |
ckoehler |
i think it's usable |
| 20:49 |
ckoehler |
haven't played with it in a while |
| 20:49 |
ckoehler |
but a lot of the features are backported to the 4.x branch |
| 20:49 |
ckoehler |
like caching |
| 20:49 |
ckoehler |
mvc |
| 20:49 |
nkuttler |
typo3 5,0 already usable? |
| 20:49 |
ckoehler |
fluid |
| 20:49 |
ckoehler |
no |
| 20:49 |
ckoehler |
not at all |
| 20:49 |
nkuttler |
ah ok |
| 20:49 |
nkuttler |
i don't mind testing alpha quality software |
| 20:52 |
nkuttler |
mmmh, modern routing |
| 20:54 |
ckoehler |
yeah that too |
| 20:56 |
drindt |
i need a onchange event handler on a dropdown list in be, someone can please get a clue how? |
| 20:57 |
drindt |
i currently play around with the extra evaluation function but i cant find a way to modify the jscript properly so that the onchange is possible |
| 21:21 |
Pepelargo |
hi all |
| 21:22 |
Pepelargo |
Hey guys, is there any element to create forms and then send a SQL query to a remote mySQL server? |
| 21:24 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: i'd guess the typo3 dbal? |
| 21:25 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, as you know I am still very noob on this XD sorry and thanks for your patience |
| 21:25 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: i have no idea if supports remote dbs though, never done anything with it |
| 21:25 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, well perhaps you can give a better point of view about what I want to do |
| 21:26 |
Pepelargo |
in my web site I give some kind of technical information in a pdf file only if the potential customers resgister using a from (typo3 site) |
| 21:26 |
Pepelargo |
But actually I want that information to be registered in another server I have in my company intranet, just in the customers table so we can track all them |
| 21:27 |
Pepelargo |
so, I thought to make a sql query from the typo3 site to the intranet server |
| 21:27 |
Pepelargo |
I am not sure if this is a good way |
| 21:28 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: well, that requires modifying typo3. i guess i'd be lazy write a script that exports new entries and sends them to the other server |
| 21:28 |
Pepelargo |
The other option I was thinking about, is to store that form's information in the typo3 db, and from the intranet download them |
| 21:28 |
Pepelargo |
I guess this will be easier, right? |
| 21:29 |
Pepelargo |
since the intranet server is Linux, I can program a cron script to check typo3 db looking for new users, and if so, download them into local tables |
| 21:29 |
Pepelargo |
*new customers |
| 21:30 |
nkuttler |
yeah, cron is probably easiert. doing it in typo3 may have other advantages though. depends on your needs. |
| 21:32 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, ok, well so I was looking for the plugin you said but I can't find it, I just want now to register a form information into a table |
| 21:33 |
nkuttler |
Pepelargo: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/dbal/current/ |
| 21:33 |
Pepelargo |
thanks |
| 21:34 |
Pepelargo |
but it is not in my repositories |
| 21:36 |
Pepelargo |
sorry I found it |
| 21:37 |
Pepelargo |
wow, when installign and updating I got this message: Fatal error: Call to a member function admin_get_charsets() on a non-object in /var/www/innerspec/t3lib/class.t3lib_install.php on line 456 |
| 21:37 |
Pepelargo |
and nothing works now |
| 21:37 |
Pepelargo |
I cna't access to my site |
| 21:37 |
Pepelargo |
¿? |
| 21:38 |
Pepelargo |
What happened? I just installed Data Abstraction Layer |
| 21:39 |
Pepelargo |
All my site is nowt working now, I get the same message everywhere aI go |
| 21:40 |
Pepelargo |
Just only for installing a component! |
| 21:41 |
Pepelargo |
nkuttler, I really need help now! My site is screwed up! |
| 21:41 |
ckoehler |
Pepelargo: go to the typo3conf folder |
| 21:41 |
ckoehler |
edit localconf.php |
| 21:41 |
ckoehler |
find the latest extList entry |
| 21:42 |
ckoehler |
which is just a comma separated list of installed extensions |
| 21:42 |
ckoehler |
find dbal |
| 21:42 |
ckoehler |
remove it from the list |
| 21:42 |
ckoehler |
save localconf.php |
| 21:42 |
ckoehler |
delete any temp* files in typo3conf |
| 21:42 |
ckoehler |
reload the site |
| 21:42 |
ckoehler |
tada |
| 21:43 |
Pepelargo |
ckoehler, but is this normal? |
| 21:43 |
ckoehler |
i don't use dbal |
| 21:43 |
ckoehler |
so i don't know |
| 21:43 |
Pepelargo |
ckoehler, I will try, I am really scared man |
| 21:44 |
ckoehler |
chill |
| 21:44 |
ckoehler |
no big deal |
| 21:44 |
Pepelargo |
the work of all a month! |
| 21:44 |
ckoehler |
happens every once in a while |
| 21:44 |
ckoehler |
gotta go |
| 21:44 |
ckoehler |
you can do it |
| 21:46 |
Pepelargo |
ckoehler, ok, now works again |
| 21:47 |
Pepelargo |
but the dbal is not loaded |
| 21:49 |
Pepelargo |
whenever I try to instal dbal it screwes up! |
| 21:50 |
Pepelargo |
Is there any other way to send a form ino into a table? |
| 21:52 |
Pepelargo |
it seems dbal doesn't work now |
| 21:53 |
Pepelargo |
so I don't know any other way to store infomration from a form into a table |
| 21:53 |
twoten |
dbal has become evil and must be expelled |
| 21:54 |
Pepelargo |
twoten, and what else I can work with in order to save into a table information comming from a form? |
| 21:55 |
ckoehler |
wasn't that bad, huh |
| 21:56 |
Pepelargo |
please, could you guys give me a hand and answer me? |
| 21:56 |
ckoehler |
write an extension |
| 21:56 |
ckoehler |
look at mailformplus or somethin |
| 21:56 |
ckoehler |
we can't do your homework for you |
| 21:56 |
Pepelargo |
I am not asking you to do my homework |
| 21:57 |
Pepelargo |
I am just trying to know if this "CMS" has somehting than doesn't neet to wirte in typoscript |
| 21:57 |
ckoehler |
it does |
| 21:57 |
ckoehler |
google is your friend |
| 21:57 |
ckoehler |
so is typo3.org/extensions |
| 21:57 |
Pepelargo |
And I am just asking for names, since the 90% of the stuff I find in google is in german |
| 21:58 |
ckoehler |
search the mailing list |
| 21:58 |
Pepelargo |
and the other 10% is just for the basics tutorials |
| 21:58 |
Pepelargo |
belive me,..I already spent a lot of time looking around |
| 21:59 |
Pepelargo |
ckoehler, well you know, in typo3.org recommend dbal, but it seems that it is buggy and in beta, and doesn't work |
| 21:59 |
Pepelargo |
http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=10169 |
| 21:59 |
Pepelargo |
I do look into google.. |
| 22:04 |
twoten_ |
Cannot find tslib/. Please set path by defining $configured_tslib_path in index.php |
| 22:04 |
twoten_ |
is the error I'm getting |
| 22:04 |
twoten_ |
maybe one of my new symlinks is bad? |
