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00:02 techgurufloyd have you tried .splitChar? as in:
00:02 techgurufloyd allWrap = <li> ; </li>
00:02 techgurufloyd allWrap.slitChar = ;
00:03 lous not yet
00:03 lous but wait
00:05 lous hmm sorry i dont get the point of slitchar. I have add it, but i dont want a ;
00:05 techgurufloyd that might need to be allWrap.wrap and allWrap.wrap.splitChar for it to work. Try it out. (I'm looking at the TSRef http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.2.0/view/ )
00:06 lous ok i will try it out now
00:06 lous hmm the result is ugly :)
00:07 techgurufloyd ok. You could use any char instead of ; but, Oh I forgot your bar: allWrap.wrap = <li> ; </li> |
00:07 techgurufloyd (substitute ; for whatever char you think works best)
00:08 lous ah okay
00:08 lous sorry its late already :D my brain is already gone
00:09 techgurufloyd It's 5:10pm (17:10) where I am. :P But have fun - and check out the TSRef, though difficult to wrap my mind around it sometimes, generally in the end I can get it to do what I want.
00:09 lous here its 00:12
00:14 techgurufloyd Perhaps someone else'll be able to help better tomorrow - I'm not the best TS dude around. I try, but sometimes it seems bashing my head on the wall is the best option (joke).
00:14 lous haha :D
00:15 lous same here, im just new to typo3
00:15 techgurufloyd I've been doing a couple of things here and there off and on for the last several years. I'd still say I'm fairly new at it though.
00:17 lous really? I think typo3 is too big to know everything about it
00:17 lous i think they are just a few people out there, who knows everything about typo3
00:17 lous they = there
00:22 techgurufloyd ;) agreed
00:24 lous :D
00:24 lous anyway, it wont work with splitchar. I cant get it work
00:25 lous this is a part of my submenu
00:25 lous lib.subMenu.1.NO {
00:25 lous allWrap = <li> | </li>
00:25 lous ATagParams = class="subnormal"
00:25 lous and ive tried
00:26 lous allWrap.splitChar = ;
00:26 lous allWrap = <li> ; </li> |
00:26 lous but it wont work
00:26 techgurufloyd Try pasting your menu somewhere like http://paste.phlogi.net/
00:26 lous ah okay sorry bout that
00:27 techgurufloyd np It makes it nicer to work with is all.
00:27 lous http://paste.phlogi.net/-2a2c41cd33/
00:27 lous this wont work
00:28 lous the navigation is not anymore inside of <li>
00:28 techgurufloyd What's it end up as?
00:29 lous the whole script or the result?
00:29 techgurufloyd one entry from the result
00:30 lous i cant copy it ;D
00:30 lous http://ag-ag.eu/index.php?id=383&L=0
00:30 lous here youll see it
00:33 techgurufloyd http://paste.phlogi.net/-97e0898e99/ try that
00:34 lous refresh :D
00:36 lous http://paste.phlogi.net/-a6df304ebe/
00:36 techgurufloyd funny
00:36 lous thats the whole submenu
00:39 techgurufloyd http://paste.phlogi.net/-47d639efef/ next try
00:40 lous haha
00:40 lous :D
00:41 lous "nearly" in one line :)
00:41 techgurufloyd lol oh joy
00:42 techgurufloyd that's really weird.
00:42 lous oh ye
00:43 lous but hey, you dont have to damage your head for me :)
00:43 techgurufloyd ;)
00:43 lous i really thank you for your help :) But if you think, we cant get it work today, then i will sleep now :)
00:43 techgurufloyd perhaps try sticking the | before the </li> ?
00:44 lous ok wait
00:45 lous http://ag-ag.eu/index.php?id=509&L=0&tx_ttnews[pointer]=60&cHash=73eb9c99ec
00:45 lous http://ag-ag.eu/index.php?id=383&L=0
00:45 lous here ;D
00:47 lous hmmm
00:47 lous nearly
00:48 techgurufloyd well, yah, almost. Looks like it's got something going on with a stylesheet maybe?
00:48 techgurufloyd /me shoots in the dark
00:48 lous oh ye
00:48 lous display: block :D
00:49 lous http://ag-ag.eu/index.php?id=383&L=0
00:49 lous hahaha it works ;D
00:49 lous nice job techgurufloyd :D well done
00:49 techgurufloyd Well, I'm glad that worked for you.
00:49 lous You just made my day! :D
00:50 techgurufloyd (or your early morning ... :P )
00:50 lous ya ;D
00:50 lous i will just smile for today ^^
00:50 lous but im sure, next issue is not far away
00:50 techgurufloyd but of course. There's always something funky in TS around every bend. But that's what we live for right? adventure!
00:50 techgurufloyd lol
00:51 lous hahaha ye :)
00:51 techgurufloyd um. Your english page doesn't look so great...
00:51 techgurufloyd It's not got the menu?
00:51 lous ya
00:51 lous cause of the "overhead" menu
00:52 lous wrong floats
00:52 lous have to clean it when i wake up :D
00:52 techgurufloyd have fun with that
00:52 techgurufloyd Sleep well too
00:52 lous thanks :D have a nice day also. Maybe we will see us again soon :D bye
05:56 hwked who are the gsoc mentors for typo3
09:03 lous hey all
10:51 hwked are there any mentors here
10:51 hwked fpr gsoc
10:51 hwked *fpr
10:52 hwked *for
11:10 lous ive done my template with templavoila. But <!--[if IE 7]> wont work for me. Anyone knows why?
11:10 Nekdy how is it related to TV?
11:11 lous you can choose the headparts also with tv
11:11 lous and there i could choose <!--[if IE 7]>
11:11 Nekdy ah
11:11 lous or what do you mean? Sorry my english isnt that good :D
11:12 Nekdy i never use that headparts thing
11:12 lous ah okay
11:12 Nekdy i set it in TS
11:12 lous you use also <!--[if IE 7]>?
11:12 lous or 6 whatever
11:12 Nekdy yes
11:12 Nekdy all the time
11:12 lous and i guess it works?
11:15 lous ok i see :)
11:17 MasterYin Hey alltogether
11:17 MasterYin Can anyone tell me how to disable the Caching of my own extension? I forgot to set the mark in the Kickstarter...
11:29 sorenmalling MasterYin: Go to your main file in pi1 folder and you vill se a variable set to user_int, set that to user (or opposite :))
11:43 MasterYin sorenmalling: this->pi_USER_INT_obj = 1 ?
11:43 sorenmalling MasterYin: Yes
11:43 MasterYin Doesn't Change anything... :-(
11:44 sorenmalling That is the setting controlling whether your extension should be cached or not. Clear the cache after you change the setting and visit your site again
11:44 MyGoddess (and the settings cache too)
11:44 MasterYin ok... taking a look
11:45 MyGoddess There is an argument when registering the plugin in ts telling the system whether it is a user or user_int.
11:46 MasterYin where can i find / set that?
11:51 MasterYin MyGoddess ?
11:52 MyGoddess ext_localconf.php in your extension
11:53 MyGoddess The last argument of the call to addPItoST43 should be 0 if you don't want caching.
11:53 MyGoddess And then you must clear the settings cache.
11:56 MasterYin Got it... :-/
11:56 MasterYin Takes me 2 days to find that 0 :-/
11:58 MasterYin I created the ext again in the kickstartet and than i tried to find the differences between the Result of Kickstarter and my ... but this 0 I dind'n see :-/
11:59 MyGoddess you should have used a diff software to see the differences.
12:00 MasterYin Next time i will do so :)
12:51 kyryll hi
13:00 kyryll can somebody help me, please?
13:00 kyryll When I click on the links on my pre-configured site, all I get is a 404 error page although the same configuration works fine under my local XAMPP testserver
13:18 MasterYin What kind of pre-configured site? @ kyryll
13:32 kyryll WEC
13:51 sorenmalling Can anybody help me, with making a select-box in the TYPO3 backend, which reloads the pagae and shows the record field based on your choice from the selector?
13:53 MasterYin Can anyone tell me how to change the "Forgot password"-Funktion from sending the stored password to send a link to enter a new one?
13:53 MasterYin Im Using newloginbox
13:54 hwked any gsoc mentors here?
14:05 sorenmalling hwked: Try reach them by email insted :) http://typo3.org/development/gsoc2009/mentors/
14:06 hwked sorenmalling: thanks
16:48 ckoehler anyone here who knows how a typo3 page is built?
16:48 ckoehler how the exts are loaded and stuff?
16:50 timdeluxe ckoehler: no, but perhaps this helps you: http://buzz.typo3.org/people/stucki/article/typo3-frontend-rendering-explained/
16:51 kyryll does anybody have an idea why my frontend displays 404 error pages when clicking on links that should be working and work on my testserver?
16:55 timdeluxe realurl or simulatestaticdocuments active?
16:58 kyryll no
17:16 nkuttler kyryll: a 404 inside typo3? or plain httpd?
17:19 kyryll not inside typo3
17:19 nkuttler then check the error log
17:19 kyryll it gets shown in the frontend when I try to click on a link
17:19 nkuttler you are contradicting yourself
17:19 nkuttler kyryll: url?
17:23 kyryll where do I find the error log?
17:25 kyryll brb
17:31 kyryll any idea?
17:36 egbert_ Hi
17:37 egbert_ does somebody know how I can request pages using Ajax
17:39 egbert_ I would like to let one singel page load all my typo subpages
17:39 egbert_ using ajax technology
17:40 egbert_ I've already tried xajax, but that seams to be for the backand
17:40 egbert_ Am I correct wit that?
17:42 ckoehler egbert_: you can use eID to make lightweight FE requests
17:42 ckoehler you still have to use prototype or another js lib
17:42 ckoehler you just give it the eid url
17:43 ckoehler which is registered by your extension, where it also tells it what class and method to call
17:43 egbert_ ok, thanks
17:44 egbert_ do you know the name of the eID extension?
17:48 ckoehler it's in the core
17:49 ckoehler an example extension is whiteboard
17:49 egbert_ Ok, I will try to setup whiteboard now to give it a try
17:49 egbert_ Do you know something about the xajax extension?
17:50 egbert_ where should I use that ?
17:50 ckoehler haven't used it before
17:50 egbert_ ok
17:51 ckoehler all that eid does is provide a url to call
17:51 ckoehler and you define what class and method in your extension is connected to that
17:51 ckoehler to call the url, you still need to use prototype or whatever
17:51 egbert_ and that URL can be loaded by using prototype?
17:51 ckoehler yes
17:52 ckoehler and you define the output from within your PHP script in your extension
17:52 egbert_ ok
17:52 egbert_ so that means I've to write my own extension to use eID?
17:52 ckoehler well
17:52 ckoehler if you want to add any functionality to typo3, then an extension is the way to do it
17:53 ckoehler you may be able to just have a php script in fileadmin that's called by eid
17:53 ckoehler but not sure on that
17:53 egbert_ I actually want to load every single page or pagecontent using ajax
17:54 egbert_ do you think that's possible?
17:54 ckoehler good luck with that
17:54 egbert_ haha
17:54 ckoehler everythings possible
17:54 egbert_ true
17:54 ckoehler but plan on spending some time rewriting typo3
17:55 ckoehler why do you want to do that?
17:55 egbert_ Do you think it's possible to create a typo3 template with the prototype javascript in it..
17:55 ckoehler of course
17:55 ckoehler you can include it from an extension, too
17:55 egbert_ and than let eID request a pagecontent when I need it
17:56 ckoehler that's not how it works though
17:56 ckoehler you are essentially trying to rewrite the typo3 page rendering
17:56 egbert_ It not clear to me how eID realy works
17:56 ckoehler if you want to override the whole FE rendering process, why even use typo3?
17:56 ckoehler look at whiteboard
17:56 egbert_ because it has a very strong backend
17:56 egbert_ will look at whiteboard now
17:57 kyryll I still have this 404 error problem
17:57 ckoehler you may can write your own extension that loads content from other pages and does that via ajax
17:57 ckoehler but that's not a good ida
17:57 ckoehler idea
17:57 egbert_ why not?
17:57 ckoehler seems like you're trying to do something way too complicated
17:57 egbert_ maybe I am
17:58 ckoehler why do you want to load every content element with ajax?
17:58 egbert_ I've got a website with relatively much static content, but I do want to have the advantage of an CMS
17:58 kyryll there is no advantage in using a cms when most of the content is static
17:59 egbert_ Since I have experience with Typo3, I choose for Typo3. Do you know some other CMS which might work better with AJAX?
17:59 ckoehler why ajax?
17:59 ckoehler because it's cool?
18:00 ckoehler brb, lunch
18:00 kyryll ajax is just a buzzword for reloading stuff without reloading the whole page.
18:01 kyryll isn't it strange that there are 1000 pages books about ajax on the market and "ajax in 30 seconds" tutorials on the web? ;)
18:06 egbert_ Ok, so you'r actually sugesting that I should leave the AJAX
18:06 egbert_ ?
18:07 egbert_ But isn't it possible to use eID to get a very basic page and load that with AJAX?
18:07 egbert_ I've got a special navigation system which works well with AJAX
18:08 egbert_ XChat says: connection reset
18:08 egbert_ did you get this?
18:08 egbert_ But isn't it possible to use eID to get a very basic page and load that with AJAX?
18:12 kyryll I think you don't understand the most basic concepts of web design and development
18:12 kyryll I'm new to typo3 myself so I don't know anything about this eID stuff but building a basic site and filling it with content doesn't either require a cms nor ajax
18:13 kyryll and you certainly don't need ajax to load anything
18:25 ckoehler egbert_: what do you want to do?
18:26 ckoehler typo3 manages content
18:26 ckoehler it does so quite well
18:26 ckoehler and has its way of doing it
18:27 ckoehler so if that's what you want, use typo3
18:27 ckoehler you can also extend it and build stuff that satisfies your requirements
18:27 ckoehler you can do that with an extension
18:27 ckoehler and the extension can use ajax, that's what eid is for
18:28 ckoehler it's mostly for extending though, not changing
18:28 ckoehler very rarely does an extension change what typo3 already does
18:28 ckoehler so maybe telling us what you want to do in the first place will help us help you better
18:29 ckoehler kyryll: did you check your error log?
18:48 egbert_ ckoehler: What I want is to use the powerfull backend from Typo3 to let my users add content to the page
18:50 egbert_ but I would like to load aditonal pages from index.php
18:50 egbert_ that's because I use a fancy menu item whick works with javascript
18:51 egbert_ and reloading a page wil cause that menu to reload and do things I don't want
18:52 egbert_ http://owee.egbertpot.nl/test/
18:52 egbert_ Her you'll see a cross which will be replace by a image
18:52 egbert_ the cross will turn around
18:53 timdeluxe kyryll: still having the problem? give us a url for a try
18:57 ckoehler write your own extension
18:57 ckoehler you can make it output any content
18:58 ckoehler and you can use records or something to define the content that your users may use
18:58 ckoehler if it's just that, you may want to look at writing a rails app or something
18:58 ckoehler you will get a lot of overhead with typo3
18:59 kyryll re
18:59 kyryll was eating chicken in the city
18:59 kyryll i still have the problem, yes
18:59 kyryll here's the link
18:59 kyryll http://174.132.170.90/~kyryll/wec/
19:00 ckoehler check error logs
19:00 ckoehler it's most likely a htaccess problem
19:00 kyryll i also get an internal server error message when trying to acces the pages view in typo3 or the config page but I know where that comes from
19:00 kyryll I set the permissions to 777 and it seems they're too high
19:00 ckoehler that's permissions
19:00 ckoehler yep
19:00 ckoehler i bet it's because it's installed in a subdirectory
19:00 kyryll can I change the htaccess directly?
19:01 kyryll yes, it is
19:01 ckoehler it's in the root
19:01 kyryll the htaccess file?
19:01 kyryll so I just have to move it to the subdirectory?
19:01 ckoehler out of
19:01 timdeluxe nono
19:01 timdeluxe the problem is:
19:01 timdeluxe realurl is active
19:02 timdeluxe to get it running
19:02 timdeluxe you have to have mod_rewrite enabled
19:02 timdeluxe you can do that by using the provided htaccess
19:02 kyryll I thought realurl is an extension?
19:02 ckoehler it's enabled in the starter package
19:02 kyryll the wec starter package?
19:02 timdeluxe yep
19:03 kyryll ok
19:03 kyryll and how do I enable mod_rewrite exactly?
19:03 timdeluxe if there is already one in the root dir remove the _ from .htaccess
19:03 ckoehler it's already enabled in the starter package
19:04 ckoehler so it's either apache config, or something else
19:04 timdeluxe ckoehler: really? and you don't have to rename it?
19:04 kyryll there is no _ in front of the htaccess file in the root directory
19:04 timdeluxe i never used the starter pack
19:04 timdeluxe ok
19:04 kyryll it works fine on my xampp testserver
19:04 timdeluxe then you have to contact you admin
19:05 kyryll hmm
19:05 timdeluxe the little magic is "AllowOverride"
19:05 ckoehler kyryll: try the server checker
19:05 kyryll ok
19:05 ckoehler http://webempoweredchurch.com/gettingstarted/installing/wec_server_checker/
19:06 timdeluxe in your vhost config AllowOverride All or AllowOverride FileInfo has to be set for the specific directory
19:06 kyryll where is the vhost config?
19:07 ckoehler your host has access to it
19:07 timdeluxe etc/apache(2)
19:07 ckoehler run the server checker, it will most likely help you figure it out
19:07 timdeluxe depends on distro
19:07 ckoehler timdeluxe: he's on shared hosting it seems
19:08 ckoehler so he has no access to the server config
19:08 timdeluxe with moduserdir, yes ckoehler
19:08 timdeluxe so i think he wont be able to use realurl
19:09 kyryll I will install this server checker script
19:15 kyryll thanks for your help help
19:16 kyryll maybe I should just move the whole stuff to the root
19:16 timdeluxe which root and which whole stuff?
19:16 timdeluxe dont think that helps you
19:17 timdeluxe if you deactivate real url you can at least get a working starter package
19:18 timdeluxe just set config.tx_realurl_enable = 1 in you TS setup
19:18 ckoehler by root i mean way root
19:18 ckoehler you are still stuck in your ~kyryll directory
19:19 ckoehler what does the server checker say?
19:19 kyryll can't upload it now because the ftp client is busy changing file permissions
19:19 kyryll can't I just deactive the realurl extension?
19:20 ckoehler yeah
19:20 kyryll and if I do so, I'll be left with a "normal" typo installation?
19:20 ckoehler unload and disable it in the setup
19:20 ckoehler yeah
19:20 ckoehler just not pretty urls
19:20 kyryll and the wec starter site still works?
19:20 ckoehler of course
19:21 kyryll ok, I'll try that
19:21 kyryll but I'd like to have pretty urls :)
19:22 ckoehler try the server checker
19:22 ckoehler talk to your host
19:22 ckoehler maybe choose a different host
19:23 kyryll 1 cent for unlimited space, mysql databases and ssh access is hard to beat :)
19:23 ckoehler unless you can't even run typo3
19:23 ckoehler you get what you pay for
19:24 kyryll and how do I enable this mod_rewrite?
19:24 ckoehler talk to your host
19:24 kyryll can't I do it myself?
19:25 ckoehler normally not
19:25 kyryll oh
19:25 ckoehler like your cheap hosting so far?
19:25 kyryll it usually costs 8 dollars but I had a coupon
19:26 timdeluxe 8 dollars for mod userdir... woha
19:27 kyryll deactivating realurl didn't help
19:27 kyryll it still tries to load the "pretty" urls
19:28 timdeluxe clear cache
19:28 ckoehler disable it in the template, too
19:28 kyryll did that
19:28 kyryll works now
19:28 kyryll forgot that you have to press shift when you reload to clear the cache
19:29 kyryll well, I'm happy now
19:29 kyryll thank you
19:29 ckoehler sure
19:29 kyryll it works fine but you really think that the admin has to reconfigure something to make the realurls work?
19:30 timdeluxe yep, seems so
19:30 kyryll ok
19:31 kyryll I have another stupid question
19:31 kyryll the clear cache and search button don't work
19:31 kyryll also the id numbers didn't show up when hovering over a page but I could solve this problem. the clear cache and search button still don't work, though
19:32 kyryll all buttons to the right of the workspace button don't work
19:32 ckoehler talk to your host
19:33 ckoehler i bet it's cheap hosting :)
19:33 ckoehler restrictive server config
19:33 ckoehler at least check the error logs
19:33 ckoehler typo3 is an enterprise level cms
19:33 ckoehler you need to be willing to give it what it needs
19:35 kyryll can it have something to do with this? File does not exist: /Users/<removed>/public_html/wec/typo3conf/ext/templavoila/mod1/sys_cpanel
19:35 ckoehler nope
19:35 ckoehler some cpanel oddness going on
19:36 kyryll there are 2 other errors but they aren't telling anything about the button problem either
19:36 kyryll I read in some forums that people have this error after upgrading or changing the configuration so it's not necessarily a server problem
19:38 ckoehler something is wrong
19:39 kyryll :)
19:39 kyryll yes
20:43 egbert_ Let's forget about the AJAX for now.... I've got another question about a good photogallery
20:44 egbert_ Does somebody know of a photoplugin that caches all thumbnails, and where it is very very very easy for the end user to upload a file
20:44 egbert_ file = full resolution photo
20:46 egbert_ So the plugin should resize the photo to a pre-defined resolution but keep the origional photo file
20:46 egbert_ I know there are many photo plugins, but which one should I use?
20:46 egbert_ Sorry.... back in 15 minutes
20:48 phil90 how about chgallery ?
20:55 ckoehler smoothgallery
21:04 egbert_ will look into that right now
21:04 egbert_ thanks
21:05 egbert_ smoothgallery works with DAM

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