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08:16 razer hi
08:16 razer is it possible to insert data via the frontend?
08:16 razer eg. news or stuff?
09:09 Georges_Abitbol hi all
09:11 _pedda_ hi all
09:19 randomresult good morning
09:19 smeringe morning
09:23 maholtz|WORK morning
09:27 nd ALoha
09:34 _pedda_ moin randomresult , smeringe , maholtz|WORK & nd
09:34 _pedda_ ;)
09:35 maholtz|WORK morning _pedda_
09:35 smeringe :)
09:35 _pedda_ everybode is arrived, so now we can start the new week
09:35 _pedda_ hmm "now" should be the last word..
09:36 _pedda_ me too
09:36 smeringe so the new week has to wait ;)
09:36 _pedda_ lol
10:18 [SySteM] Hi
10:18 [SySteM] i would like to instantiate an extension plugin (pi1) on a php-cli cmd line
10:18 [SySteM] anyone can help me?
10:19 randomresult moin _pedda_
10:19 randomresult still having problems with mailform plus
10:20 randomresult :(
10:20 jananne hello, somehow tt_news doesn't want to sort my record's on date added. i can change it to DESC, but it just doesn't change.
10:21 _pedda_ which one randomresult
10:21 _pedda_ ?
10:21 maholtz|WORK @jananne: it is sorted by anything? which mysql version do you use?
10:22 jananne i sorted it in the added module configuration. i don't know what SQL version i'm using.
10:22 jananne the most used version i persume.
10:23 jananne i could try to reïnstall tt_news, maybe that's work.
10:25 [SySteM] anyone can help me?
10:27 maholtz|WORK @jananne: so, you can sort by title f.e.? if no sorting is possible, perhaps an downgrade or patching of your system could help (check bugs.typo3.org first)
10:27 teppi|work [SySteM], whats the problem?
10:28 [SySteM] i would like to instantiate an extension plugin (pi1) on a php-cli cmd line
10:28 [SySteM] or a page with an id and a type in command line
10:29 [SySteM] (without make a wget)
10:29 teppi|work i think you should use the typo3 built-in cli feature
10:29 teppi|work watch: t3lib_cli
10:30 teppi|work here is an exampel
10:30 teppi|work http://www.typo3-tutorials.org/tutorials/entwicklung/cli-das-neue-command-line-interface.html
10:30 teppi|work but its in german
10:30 teppi|work this would be the easiest because on this way all needed environment vars are set by T3
10:30 [SySteM] i reed
10:30 [SySteM] but there is no way to instanciate a frontend plugin
10:30 [SySteM] just to make directly a script
10:31 teppi|work yeah .. but on this way
10:31 teppi|work you can require your plugin
10:31 teppi|work code
10:31 teppi|work and instantiate it
10:31 [SySteM] my plugin code need a lots of class
10:31 [SySteM] and anothers plugins =)
10:31 jananne maholtz|WORK: tried that, doesn't sort at all :s.
10:32 teppi|work could work i think
10:33 teppi|work you could render it like T3 would make it witk
10:33 teppi|work $this->cObj->CONTENT(.. )
10:33 teppi|work i think
10:33 [SySteM] i try :)
10:33 [SySteM] thx
10:33 teppi|work but im not really sure
10:33 maholtz|WORK @jananne: perhaps an downgrade could be the simplest solution, if you do not want to dig in php-code
11:12 lilalinux Any idea, why a translated page (Alternative Page Language) doesn't find images from the "media" field anymore?
11:12 lilalinux http://paste.phlogi.net/multilanguage_media_field/
11:14 lilalinux Like always: after you ask the question you find the solution yourself O_o
11:14 lilalinux install tool > all conf > pageOverlayFields
12:06 lilalinux the sound of silence :-)
12:28 Frankythereal i have a userpremission problem with the DAM ext.
12:28 Frankythereal The user can see the images in the dataoverview but he cant change any informations
12:28 Frankythereal could anyone help me ?
12:29 maholtz|WORK there is the sysfolder "media"
12:29 maholtz|WORK check the rights for it
12:29 Frankythereal the media folder have the premissons form the group
12:30 Frankythereal and the user is a admin
12:30 maholtz|WORK an admin should be allowed
12:30 Frankythereal yes
12:30 maholtz|WORK what is the error message?
12:31 Frankythereal no error message the button to edit the file is gray
12:31 maholtz|WORK well, that depends on file-type, right?
12:31 maholtz|WORK imho you have to enable to edit that filetype via install tool
12:31 Frankythereal ah
12:32 Frankythereal where in the install did you know it
12:35 Frankythereal maholtz sorry but i dont find it in the installation overview
12:37 Frankythereal is the name noEdit?
12:51 Frankythereal sorry that im so dump but i dont know where i must enable the file-type
12:53 maholtz|WORK afaik there is a list, where is tmpl,html,css etc
12:53 maholtz|WORK i am not sure, if that is what you are searching for
12:53 Frankythereal i use dam categorie
12:53 Frankythereal and the user can edit informations about the pic
12:55 Frankythereal what ist afaik?
12:55 maholtz|WORK http://www.google.de/search?q=afaik
12:56 Frankythereal ok thx
12:57 Frankythereal hmm but i dont know what i can do to fix the prb
13:05 |Xabbu does anyone know how to include different (sets of) basis templates based on conditions in a template?
13:05 maholtz|WORK @Frankythereal: you said, the user cant change any informations but is eble to edit informations... so, i do not understand your problem
13:06 Frankythereal no it is not enable to edit the infos if is the readacteur
13:06 Frankythereal as admin is the infos editable
13:06 maholtz|WORK @Xabbu: you can put them into files and load them, or put the condition into the templates
13:06 SmaxTheFrog afaik as far as i know
13:07 |Xabbu Ok, forget my question: Found the "solution" on google. -> Does not work
13:07 maholtz|WORK @Frankythereal: do not use DAM for testing - use list-modul and go to media page, check who is able to do what there!
13:09 |Xabbu @maholtz|WORK : oh, it does work? I just found http://www.typo3.net/index.php?id=13&action=list_post&tid=87503.
13:10 Frankythereal i have the soulution
13:11 Frankythereal the programmer have the media higher as the startsite lol
13:11 Frankythereal so typo cant find it
13:12 Frankythereal but thanks for the help maholtz
13:12 maholtz|WORK no, that is usually done trough dam itself
13:12 maholtz|WORK you have to add media-sysfolder to users mount point
13:13 maholtz|WORK but, you can move it anyway:)
13:13 Frankythereal ok that was then my fould
13:13 Frankythereal a nice day and a good week
13:13 Frankythereal CU
13:13 maholtz|WORK cu
13:28 HardPhuck why does TV want static info tables to be installed?
13:28 HardPhuck why are those so popular? i never used them
13:31 fred^ hola
13:31 fred^ do any one know how to enable the clear cache lightning for backend users?
13:31 fred^ in 4.2, that is
13:35 HardPhuck you have an extension for that i think
13:35 HardPhuck i think > i know, because i'm using it
13:36 pmk65 HardPhuck: Static Info Tables contains a lot of
13:36 pmk65 country specific info. I think TV uses some of that for localization
13:37 HardPhuck well i installed Static info without importing any data, and it works just fine :)
13:39 pmk65 You only have to use the update of Static Info Tables if you use a different encoding than the default.
13:40 fred^ HardPhuck are you thinking about cl_becache?
13:41 fred^ that is the only know that i can think of, but it only works in 4.1
13:42 HardPhuck really? i thought it works in 4.2 too
13:46 fred^ No lightning showing up for the user
13:46 |Xabbu Is there a special requirement for "[globalString = HTTP_HOST=host.domain.de]" to work? phpinfo gives the correct HTTP_HOST and the Typoscript Object Browser changes the Setup correctly, if I set the condition. But my Frontend does not change.
13:46 fred^ Is that working for you?
13:46 fred^ What version of T3/cl_becache do you got?
13:47 pmk65 fred^: If you use TV, then there's a "Clear Cache" available on the "advanced" Tab. - It works for all BE users.
13:47 HardPhuck fred^: did you add it in the ACL?
13:50 fred^ Yeah, its added, HardPhuck
13:50 fred^ pmk65: that works, I was just wondering if its possible to clear cache for the whole site for BE users
14:00 pmk65 fred^: I just took a quick peek at the class.clearcachemenu.php, and the access is defined like this: -> http://paste.phlogi.net/-2e3c61f8fb/
14:00 pmk65 So I guess you can give access to normal BE users, by setting the TSConfig values options.clearCache.pages and options.clearCache.all
14:04 pmk65 Looks like TSConfig have disappeared from the Documentation/References on TYPO3.org again!! (A lot of documentation vanishes from time to time. Some never returns.) But the file is still there.. -> http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsconfig/4.1.0/view/1/2/#id3927218
14:10 jananne hello, i hate the image browser of tt_content, is there a more simple 'image upload/add' module for this?
14:18 lilalinux How do I place the date of CSC at the bottom instead at the bottom instead of at the top in lib.stdHeader?
14:29 maholtz|WORK @lilalinux: check in objectbrowser how date is added and change it then
14:33 pmk65 jananne: Try the "Drag and Drop Mas Upload" extension -> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/ameos_dragndropupload/current/
14:33 jananne pmk65: i know that extension rox..
14:33 pmk65 It requires Java, but it's worth installing Java just to get that ext. :)
14:33 jananne but i mean when adding a image in a normal CONTENT ELEMENT, i want the popup ( for adding the image ) to be different.
14:34 pmk65 jananne: Then there's no alternative unfortunately. :(
14:34 lilalinux how do I find out if my php is utf-8 ready?
14:35 lilalinux debian/etch
14:36 jananne pmk65: there should be :( this SUX.
14:36 pmk65 TYPO3's BE is extremely slow when you have to open popup windows. If the popup windows just gets replaced by DHTML windows, then it isn't that bad. (Tale a look at the TinyMCE RTE extension, which uses DHTML windows)
14:36 jananne how can someone find this 'userfriendly'?
14:38 pmk65 jananne: A lot of the 3rd-party stuff in TYPO3 is based on outdated code. (Like HTMLArea which is based on code which was abandoned by the author 3 years ago)
14:39 pmk65 So no wonder it's not very user friendly..
14:46 kraftb hello !
14:47 pmk65 hello :)
14:47 jbaptiste_j hello kraftb
14:47 kraftb hello jean
14:47 kraftb i hope that was correct firstname ;)
14:48 jbaptiste_j jean-baptiste is my first name, means John the baptist
14:48 jbaptiste_j good guess
15:01 lilalinux does anyone know this extensions http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/convert2utf8/current/ ?
15:01 maholtz|WORK afaik it only works for a few tables
15:01 lilalinux Do I configure setDBinit before ore after usin git?
15:02 lilalinux what alternatives do I have?
15:02 lilalinux dump the db and use iconv?
15:02 maholtz|WORK i would do it this way: create a new empty database, set to utf-8
15:03 maholtz|WORK make an mysql dump of your old database
15:03 maholtz|WORK import that into the new one
15:03 maholtz|WORK check if everything is right
15:04 maholtz|WORK but... perhaps you can change the tsconfig fields into text, otherwise you will run in trouble while converting, because blob would not be converted
15:04 lilalinux do I need to tell mysqldump what characterset I want?
15:04 maholtz|WORK no, you should not
15:04 maholtz|WORK afaik
15:04 maholtz|WORK do not remember clearly
15:05 lilalinux But essentially the hint is to convert "offline"
15:06 lilalinux without typo3
15:06 maholtz|WORK so did i
15:06 maholtz|WORK only problems: umlauts in typoscript
15:06 lilalinux doesn't matter
15:06 maholtz|WORK well, it does if you have one
15:06 maholtz|WORK it crops your typoscript
15:07 pmk65 lilalinux: check this utf-8 "tutorial". -> http://xavier.perseguers.ch/en/tutorials/typo3/configuration/utf-8.html
15:07 XPeter Hi, may I know where can I find some older version of extension files. e.g. phpmyadmin?
15:08 lilalinux maholtz|WORK: i see
15:08 lilalinux pmk65: thx
15:08 lilalinux maholtz|WORK: fortunately I use an english keyboard ;-)
15:08 lilalinux I personally never type umlauts
15:09 lilalinux Näver ;-)
15:09 ecantus :D
15:09 pmk65 The tutorial says that "setDBinit" is not used anymore, but that is wrong. If you don't set "setDBinit", utf-8 chars are stored as double bytes in the DB, but if "setDBinit" is set, it's stored as single byte
15:09 pmk65 Also without setting "setDBinit" you will get into problems if you edit a utf-8 files from the BE (Quixplorer etc.)
15:10 XPeter Hi, where could I find older extension archives?
15:10 lilalinux pmk65: k
15:10 lilalinux but first I need to convert the old db
15:10 pmk65 XPeter: When you inport an ext form TER, you can choose among the older versions, if the author haven't deleted them.
15:11 XPeter OK..try again
15:11 pmk65 lilalinux: The tutorial describes that too.
15:11 lilalinux thx
15:12 XPeter TYPO3 wiki describe very clearly about utf8 support
15:12 XPeter http://wiki.typo3.org/UTF-8_support
15:12 XPeter I follow the instructions, now my site both BE FE support Chinese Characters
15:13 pmk65 XPeter: when you import an ext. Click on the filename (not the update/install icon) Then you should see a selectbox, where you can select olderr versions.
15:20 Cees Is anyone in here familiar with wt_socialbookmarks?
15:21 XPeter I can't "look up" for any extension from TER at BE. Keying any file name showed No matching extensions
15:22 Cees What version of Typo3 are you using? I remember myself having that, with the new beta release. Once I quickfired my browser again, it did work.
15:22 PeterRuijter1 Was it possible before?
15:23 Cees Peter? Are you familiar with the extension wt_socialbookmarks?
15:24 PeterRuijter1 noop
15:24 Cees How do you guys use social bookmarking within' Typo3?
15:24 Bluespuke i need to check via typoscript if a column has content elements and use the content elements of the parent page if it is empty, any ideas or hints for me?
15:25 Cees What parsing method are you using?
15:25 maholtz|WORK @Bluespuke: CONTENT.slide = -1
15:25 maholtz|WORK check TSref
15:26 Bluespuke ok, ty
15:26 kraftb see TSRef cObject "CONTENT" on property "slide"
15:26 Cees maholtz, does that actually check ? - I thought that took it's data of the parent page anyway.
15:26 kraftb it was implemented by me in 4.0 - by integrating the extesion kb_content_slide
15:27 kraftb it will work, except you are using TemplaVoila - in which case you should use kb_tv_cont_slide
15:27 kraftb ;)
15:27 Cees I use the autoparser. :)
15:28 kraftb it is very configurable - you can switch the ordering of the content elements in almost any direction - to say it with the words of missy elliot: "take it flip it and reverse it"
15:28 Cees haha. seriously, this social bookmarking thing gets me crazy within' typo3.
15:29 Cees wt_socialbookmarks doesn't really do what i want. it is supposed to load the xml file (which is referenced to (double checked)), but it does not. :s
15:29 Bluespuke ty @maholz|WORK, @kraftb, this works realy nice
15:45 kraftb http://xkcd.com/153/
15:48 XPeter Which phpmyadmin extension version support T3 4.1.X, TER import seems only have loweest version 4.1.1, which also requires T3 4.2.X
15:54 maholtz680 re
15:58 lilalinux pmk65: any idea, why that tutorial recommends "--ignore-table=typo3.sys_refindex" when dumping the database?
16:00 pmk65 maybe a table which doesn't support utf?
16:03 lilalinux pmk65: I ask because I want to create a new database instead of overwriting the old one, but then that table would be missing
16:07 pmk65 Im not sure, but I think the "typo3.sys_refindex" table is used when you use the "DB check" module. So you should be able to fill it later on, by updating the reference index once you have finished updating.
16:07 lilalinux hm, apparently the option --ignore-table=typo3.sys_refindex is being ignored
16:07 lilalinux I did a dump with both variants, and they are identical
16:10 crisb2010 hi
16:17 crisb2010 is someone here using feuserlisting?
16:19 pmk65 fred^: Did you try those 2 TSConfig setting for allowing BE users access to the clear cache commands?
16:26 lilalinux My backend still sends "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>"
16:28 pmk65 lilalinux: did you set the 4 $TYPO3_CONF_VARS in the install tool?
16:29 lilalinux yes
16:29 lilalinux TYPO3_CONF_VARS['BE']['forceCharset'] = 'utf-8';
16:29 lilalinux $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['SYS']['t3lib_cs_convMethod'] = 'iconv';
16:29 lilalinux $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['SYS']['t3lib_cs_utils'] = 'iconv';
16:37 SwedenSimon Hello everyone! My brother asked me to fix his typo3 site. He's at work. I'm totally new to typ3 has only installed it and played around with it for a while nothing serius. The problem my brother have is the following: He uppgraded to typo3 4.2.6 (I think) and after that every text with the swedish symbols åäö is not showed. When I make an entry without öäå everything works great. What should I do?
16:38 SwedenSimon Before the upgrade everything worked great
16:38 pmk65 lilalinux: I usually set this one too "UTF8filesystem"
16:39 SwedenSimon pmk65: wheree do i set that?
16:39 pmk65 SwedenSimon: Most likely you got an UTF-8 problem too.
16:39 pmk65 SwedenSimon: Here's a tutorial on setting up UTF-8 correctly: -> http://xavier.perseguers.ch/en/tutorials/typo3/configuration/utf-8.html
16:41 SwedenSimon pmk65: I'll check it out
16:45 crisb2010 hi
16:45 crisb2010 i installed feuserlisting but unfortunately the sorting doesn't work. he appends the parameters and reloads the site, but the sorting stas the same. does anyone have an idea?
16:49 _pedda_ cu all
17:39 madoe hi folks
17:40 flobbie hi
17:41 madoe got a question. i've got a site where a picture is shown in Firefox, but isn't in IE. is it a known problem?
18:03 dokma hey guys! I forgot how to remove these things from content elements: <a id="c20"></a>
20:31 kraftb hey ...
20:31 ckoehler hey yourself
20:31 kraftb i guess georg (ringer) is not around ?
20:31 kraftb just2be in IRC
20:32 ckoehler nope
20:32 ckoehler saw him yesterday
20:33 kraftb afaik he is on the snowboard tour
20:33 kraftb i would like to ask him about integrating http://openstreetmap.org/ into rg_googlemaps - as an "free" alternative to google-maps
20:34 ckoehler does it have an API?
20:37 kraftb of course ... it is open.
20:38 kraftb you can even export png, etc, which is not that easy with google-maps
20:38 ckoehler got a link to the API?
20:38 ckoehler all we do with google maps is spit out javascript to generate the map
20:39 ckoehler ah okay
20:39 ckoehler see it now
20:39 ckoehler looking at the source
20:39 ckoehler interesting
20:39 ckoehler WEC Map was supposed to be more open and allow other maps, like yahoo
20:39 ckoehler there is actually still some old code in there for yahoo maps
20:40 ckoehler but we found that it was too hard to make use of all the Google features and make it general enough to allow more than one map type
20:40 kraftb and well ... you can't count it is accurate everywhere (meaning not all street names are there, etc.) ... but at what I looked is almost as good as google-maps
20:40 ckoehler since most people generally didn't care if they were using google or yahoo maps
20:41 kraftb except you can't switch to satellite view.
20:41 ckoehler or do a google earth view ;)
21:15 timdeluxe kraftb: hey, are you the kraftb featured in one of kaspers podkasts?
21:45 lilalinux is there a batch method of moving many pages around without losing undo information (i.e. without directly tweaking sql)
21:46 lilalinux or is the pages table unversioned?

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