| 09:11 |
lilalinux |
do you guys have "mbstring.internal_encoding = UTF-8" set in php.ini? |
| 09:12 |
lilalinux |
alternatively "mb_internal_encoding("UTF-8");" in localconf |
| 09:26 |
maholtz|WORK |
morning (sorry for being late;) |
| 09:27 |
lilalinux |
maholtz|WORK: shame on you |
| 09:28 |
maholtz|WORK |
hehe |
| 09:32 |
Guest32297 |
hello |
| 09:33 |
_pedda_ |
hi all |
| 09:40 |
maholtz|WORK |
@Guest32297: checkout www.sensus-media.de and sensus-media.de |
| 10:04 |
|Xabbu |
Does anyone know how to position the Admin Panel in the source code? I'm trying to build a XHTML 1.0 Strict Website, but unfortunatly the Adminpanel is positioned directly after the closing html tag, breaking the rendering of XHTML. |
| 10:05 |
maholtz|WORK |
afaik it is not possible - and it would make no sense for the admin panel imho |
| 10:07 |
|Xabbu |
The Problem is, that with XHTML Strict, I can not use the admin Panel, if I can not position the closing html-Tag _after_ the Adminpanel. |
| 10:09 |
maholtz|WORK |
well, if there are no rendering problems, i would ignore XHTML Strict in admin-mode |
| 10:11 |
|Xabbu |
You mean to switch to the HTML-Renderer, if someone is logged in? (This is the source-Code generated by TYPO3 with XHTML an Adminpanel: http://pastebin.com/m147ca81d) |
| 10:12 |
lilalinux |
If I have tt_content.text.10 =< lib.stdHeader and lib.stdHeader.5 = TEXT, why doesn't tt_content.text.10.5> work as expected? (i.e. remove the date from tt_content.text) |
| 10:15 |
maholtz|WORK |
@Xabbu: no i mean: just ignore it:) |
| 10:15 |
maholtz|WORK |
@lilalinux - because ther eis no tt_content.text.10.5 ? perhaps...? |
| 10:15 |
Phlogi |
hey guys :) |
| 10:16 |
Phlogi |
Anyone has an idea how I could set a custon <h1> for my inserted extension? Is there a way to modify that header? |
| 10:16 |
lilalinux |
maholtz|WORK: but lib.stdHeader has a .5 |
| 10:16 |
maholtz|WORK |
but not a 10.5? perhaps...? |
| 10:16 |
lilalinux |
and it is referenced at tt_content.text.10 |
| 10:16 |
maholtz|WORK |
ah |
| 10:17 |
lilalinux |
hm, maybe I need a copy of libStdheader instead of a reference |
| 10:17 |
|Xabbu |
@maholtz|WORK: *g* I would like to ignore it. But I can not: Firefox will give me an error and does not display the Page: 'XML-Verarbeitungsfehler: "Junk" nach Dokument-Element' |
| 10:18 |
maholtz|WORK |
@lilalinux: i would assume it depends on the point where you does it, check with object browser |
| 10:18 |
maholtz|WORK |
@Phlogi: you could do an if or override or sth. check fields CType and list |
| 10:18 |
Phlogi |
maholtz|WORK: you mean for standard header/title object in tt_content right? |
| 10:19 |
|Xabbu |
maholtz|WORK: But for debugging-purposes I removed the mime-Header to tell Firefox to use the HTML-Renderer. |
| 10:23 |
lilalinux |
O_o |
| 10:23 |
lilalinux |
it is stdheader not stdHeader |
| 10:23 |
maholtz|WORK |
@Phlogi: yep |
| 10:24 |
Phlogi |
maholtz|WORK: oki doki :) |
| 10:26 |
pmk65 |
|Xabbu: have you tried this? -> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/ingmar_admpanelwrap/current/ |
| 10:27 |
pmk65 |
Phlogi: You can add additional headers via TSConfig + Typoscript. |
| 10:28 |
Phlogi |
pmk65: do you have an example please? the thing is that the header should be before the extension stuff... like the normal <h1> now... |
| 10:30 |
|Xabbu |
pmk65: Yes. Unfortunatly I will just enable me to position the Adminpanel on the rendered Page. Not in the sourcecode. |
| 10:31 |
pmk65 |
Phlogi: It contains 2 parts. Typoscript Setup and Page TSConfig. -> http://paste.phlogi.net/-e28f96e9c5/ |
| 10:32 |
pmk65 |
|Xabbu: Maybe you could modify that ext to insert it inside the body tag? |
| 10:32 |
Phlogi |
I think I'll just change the lib.stdHeader on the page the plugin is inserted... |
| 10:34 |
Phlogi |
I hope that works |
| 10:43 |
Phlogi |
hmm do you have a tt_content.header.20 = TEXT object? |
| 10:43 |
Phlogi |
I want to modifiy the subheader from my extension |
| 10:45 |
Phlogi |
but it does not change anything on fe |
| 10:48 |
pmk65 |
Phlogi: Maybe you can access the TBE from your plugin if you know it's ID, and then manipulate the header field. |
| 10:49 |
Phlogi |
pmk65: I tried it just from TS... it does not need to be in my ext btw.. |
| 10:49 |
Phlogi |
but modifiying tt_content does not work |
| 10:50 |
pmk65 |
you can't set BE fields using TS, for that you need TSConfig. (but then you lack conditions) |
| 10:50 |
Phlogi |
I tried: tt_content.header.20 > |
| 10:51 |
Phlogi |
hmm but thats normal TS for creating those titles... |
| 10:51 |
Phlogi |
it worked for the normal header btw... I created a wrap on lib.stdheader.stdWrap.wrap = foo|bar |
| 10:52 |
pmk65 |
lib.stdheader.10.1.fontTag = <h1 class="specialheader">|</h1> |
| 10:53 |
Phlogi |
yes, but I need to change the subheader... not the main header... |
| 10:53 |
pmk65 |
that should change the H1 header. if you put that on the page with the plugin, it should be used instead of the regular H1 |
| 10:53 |
Phlogi |
and the subheader has some own TS in tt_content as far as I see here |
| 10:54 |
pmk65 |
BUT it affects ALL h1 on that page, not just your plugin. (But that could be fixed with a TS "case" where you check the CType of each CE) |
| 10:54 |
Phlogi |
pmk65: yes I thought of that already, thanks... but I still can't pick up the right header :S |
| 10:56 |
Phlogi |
is this normal: http://www.phlogi.net/fresh/t3/tspastebin/showPost/-41f202fc5d/ <- does your TS look like that as well? |
| 10:58 |
pmk65 |
yes.. the default TS for tt_content.header |
| 10:59 |
pmk65 |
is it the header or the subheader you want to modify? |
| 11:01 |
lilalinux |
my wrap - actually noTrimWrap - ignores [ and ] |
| 11:02 |
pmk65 |
lilalinux: That's because its not [ ], but | you need as seperators. |
| 11:03 |
lilalinux |
pmk65: yes, but I additionally need literal [ and ] |
| 11:03 |
lilalinux |
noTrimWrap = | [ | ] | |
| 11:03 |
pmk65 |
Phlogi: If you modify "tt_content.list", then it should be possible to control the headers seperatly for each extension |
| 11:04 |
pmk65 |
lilalinux: Weird. You could try adding those as HTML entities instead. That works. |
| 11:05 |
Phlogi |
ok... |
| 11:05 |
pmk65 |
pmk65: [ and ] |
| 11:07 |
pmk65 |
Phlogi: You'll have to move the tt_content.list.10 part into each of the plugin parts (tt_content.list.20) inorder to control it. |
| 11:07 |
Phlogi |
pmk65: ah ok... thanks |
| 11:08 |
pmk65 |
lilalinux: [ = [ and ] = ] |
| 11:08 |
lilalinux |
pmk65: the problem was that typolink doesn't support noTrimWrap at all O_o |
| 11:08 |
lilalinux |
thx |
| 11:12 |
pmk65 |
|Xabbu: It is NOT possible to place the AdminPanel inside the body tag.. When the AdminPanel is inserted, all other output have already been sent to the browser. |
| 11:15 |
drindt |
how to localize the contents between the <title></title> ? |
| 11:15 |
pmk65 |
|Xabbu: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-team-core/2007-August/008696.html |
| 11:16 |
pmk65 |
drindt: On a multi language site? |
| 11:16 |
drindt |
pmk65: yes |
| 11:17 |
pmk65 |
The title tag is based on the title of your page. If you use the 1 tree multilang method, the localized titles is in the pages overlay. |
| 11:17 |
Frankythereal |
i search like a idiot on Google about changing blocktypes on typo3 backend can anyone tell me where i can find infos about this topic |
| 11:17 |
drindt |
pmk65: yes i i know but i have <title>MyTitleInGerman: Welcome</title> and the MyTitleInGerman should also be English then |
| 11:18 |
drindt |
pmk65: in the template record i can only setup one lang |
| 11:18 |
pmk65 |
You should fill a bugreport of that one. |
| 11:19 |
pmk65 |
I guess you'll have to create a custom title tag using Typoscript. That way you control the content. |
| 11:19 |
drindt |
pmk65: that i can probably also do yes |
| 11:21 |
pmk65 |
drindt: set config.noPageTitle = 1 to remove the default title. Then use either config.titleTagFunction to call your own PHP title function. |
| 11:22 |
Frankythereal |
noone can help me ? |
| 11:22 |
pmk65 |
Or create a typoscript object, and insert that using page.headerData |
| 11:22 |
drindt |
pmk65: yes i will do so now |
| 11:22 |
drindt |
pmk65: thanks for your support |
| 11:22 |
pmk65 |
Frankythereal: You mean in the HTMLArea RTE? |
| 11:23 |
Frankythereal |
yes |
| 11:24 |
pmk65 |
I think it's in the HTMLArea manual. But I don't use HTMLArea anymore, as it's too complicated to configure. I suggest switching to a better and easier to configure RTE, like "TinyMCE RTE" ;) |
| 11:25 |
pmk65 |
in hhttp://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/tinymce_rte/current/ |
| 11:25 |
Frankythereal |
hmm that sounds good but my boss say it we dont change the ground config |
| 11:26 |
pmk65 |
If I have to configure HTMLArea for a customer, I usually charge 6-8 hours extra for that, as it's a PAIN to configure. (You need to configure it for both FE and BE) |
| 11:26 |
Frankythereal |
**** heul ***** |
| 11:27 |
Frankythereal |
cool then i know what i do today lol |
| 11:27 |
pmk65 |
Frankythereal: it is explained in the htmlarea manual. |
| 11:27 |
Frankythereal |
thx |
| 11:28 |
pmk65 |
That's why we have tried making configuration of the TinyMCE RTE much easier to use. (You can actually configure it visually, using our button config utility) -> http://www.delusionworld.com/files/tinymce_rte-config-utility/ |
| 11:29 |
pmk65 |
you just drag the buttons you need to the toolbars, and it generates the config code you need. |
| 11:30 |
lilalinux |
I have an IMAGE with a stdWrap.typolink and border of the image is set to 0 but the border is still drawn (and the html source doesn't contain border="0") |
| 11:30 |
Frankythereal |
but i want change only the blocktypes |
| 11:30 |
Frankythereal |
i need 3 Blocks for a special output |
| 11:30 |
lilalinux |
Frankythereal: what exactly is the question? |
| 11:31 |
lilalinux |
RTE/htmlarea block styles? |
| 11:31 |
Frankythereal |
yes |
| 11:31 |
lilalinux |
simply put e.g. h2.foo into your css |
| 11:31 |
lilalinux |
the tag prefix is important |
| 11:31 |
lilalinux |
and p styles have to be allowed explicitly |
| 11:32 |
Frankythereal |
i dont configure it basely |
| 11:33 |
Frankythereal |
i want only change the exist Blocktype |
| 11:34 |
lilalinux |
Frankythereal: do you want to define a new tag? like h1? |
| 11:34 |
lilalinux |
or a style for a tag? |
| 12:01 |
lilalinux |
how do I tell RTE not to remove my p tags? |
| 12:02 |
|Xabbu |
pmk65: Sorry, I was AFK. Thanks for the Link. The explanation makes sense. |
| 12:14 |
moebius1 |
Hi everybody, I'm trying to write a simple typoscript to show the logged user (if logged) otherwise the "Login" link to the login page. I wrote this code ( http://paste.phlogi.net/simple_login_not_working/ ) but it always prints "user: Login - Logout" when nobody is logged. Someone can point me in the right direction? |
| 12:19 |
lilalinux |
Any idea, why my RTE/htmlarea removes p tags in frontend? |
| 12:32 |
razer |
hi |
| 12:32 |
swemark |
Good afternoon typo3 |
| 12:33 |
razer |
how can i add an icon to every external link? |
| 12:33 |
pmk65 |
moebius1: That's because your element get's cached. |
| 12:33 |
razer |
RTE.classesAnchor.externalLink.image = url doesnt work |
| 12:33 |
pmk65 |
Include it in a COA_INT object, then it should work. |
| 12:34 |
swemark |
razer: put a class on the element and use background. |
| 12:34 |
pmk65 |
moebius1: -> http://paste.phlogi.net/-5dd00663f0/ |
| 12:34 |
razer |
oh how dumb i am |
| 12:34 |
razer |
thx a lot : D |
| 12:34 |
swemark |
:) |
| 12:35 |
swemark |
Im in need of a tt-news/typoscript god. Any takers? |
| 12:35 |
ndee |
I added a Meta Description to a page but there's no output in the frontend. Is there something that I have to activate for getting the meta tags? |
| 12:36 |
swemark |
I want tt-news to leave the ###NEWS_CONTENT### as it is when modified in the RTE. |
| 12:36 |
pmk65 |
ndee: -> http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/general-config/meta-keywords-description.html |
| 12:37 |
swemark |
ndee page.meta.keywords.field = keywords |
| 12:37 |
ndee |
swemark: but when I edit the page header, there is also a section called metadata and there I can edit the stuff. |
| 12:37 |
ndee |
how can I output that? |
| 12:38 |
pmk65 |
ndee: look at the link I just posted. |
| 12:38 |
swemark |
for some reason you have to tell typo3 to use the fields and output it to the header |
| 12:38 |
ndee |
pmk65: saw it, sorry :) |
| 12:38 |
moebius1 |
pmk65 ...thanks but your code has the same issue. when the user is not logged i keep getting "user: Login - Logout". It seems that the wrap property remains always defined. |
| 12:39 |
ndee |
thank you pmk65 |
| 12:39 |
swemark |
TT-News LIST removes links from the output, anyone have the slightest idea on how i can make it not do that? |
| 12:40 |
pmk65 |
swemark: ###NEWS_CONTENT### is the text you edit in the RTE. As for the links dissapearing, check if you have htmlspecialchars set for the RTE. |
| 12:42 |
swemark |
pmk65: indeed it is, but the LIST-view of tt-news is default to remove all styling and links from NEWS_CONTENT |
| 12:42 |
swemark |
ill check out HSC ty |
| 12:43 |
pmk65 |
moebius1: Try this -> http://paste.phlogi.net/-bfbdfea9bd/ |
| 12:46 |
pmk65 |
swemark: the reason why HSC is on for the listview, is that the TYPO3 crop command doesn't handle HTML tags, so it's possible to crop in the middele of an A tag, wich would make everything until the next ending A tag, a link. |
| 12:47 |
pmk65 |
The crop problem can be solved by using one of my plugins "PMK HTMLCrop" It uses same parameters as the normal Typo3 crop, but respects HTML tags. (It crop DOM nodes and not the text) |
| 12:47 |
pmk65 |
http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/pmkhtmlcrop/current/ |
| 12:48 |
pmk65 |
Due to a unfixed bug, you need to use it as a userFunc. |
| 12:52 |
moebius1 |
Thanks pmk65... your last code is working! Bye |
| 13:14 |
nd |
ha, t3 is not in MS WebApp Gallery yet ;D |
| 13:16 |
maholtz|WORK |
what is that for? |
| 13:19 |
nd |
Well, you gotta ask MS for a real answer |
| 13:19 |
nd |
what I understand from skimming the article on a news site it's to install web-applications with one/two/less clicks |
| 13:20 |
maholtz|WORK |
but i would need an server than? |
| 13:20 |
nd |
Maybe they figured that the average windows admin is not capable of doing the shoes |
| 13:20 |
nd |
Guess it's for... GNA. Don't ask further! How should I understand does guys!? |
| 13:22 |
lilalinux |
where can I use encapsLines? |
| 13:22 |
lilalinux |
only in stdWrap and nonTypoTagStdWrap? |
| 13:23 |
maholtz|WORK |
what means "only"? |
| 13:26 |
nd |
How's weather on t3board? Good snow? |
| 13:29 |
lilalinux |
maholtz|WORK: what about an ordinary wrap? |
| 13:31 |
maholtz|WORK |
ordinary wrap only wants string |
| 13:32 |
lilalinux |
i see |
| 13:32 |
lilalinux |
and a stdwrap can't be multiline? |
| 13:34 |
lilalinux |
maholtz|WORK: does an ordinary wrap have parseFunct? |
| 13:34 |
maholtz|WORK |
check TSref for that |
| 13:38 |
lilalinux |
TYPO3wiki does not yet have an article with this name. |
| 13:38 |
lilalinux |
http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/De:TSref/wrap |
| 13:40 |
maholtz|WORK |
sure, have a look at stdWrap#wrap |
| 13:40 |
maholtz|WORK |
"wrap" is not an global function stdWrap has an wrap and many objects has an "wrap" function builtin |
| 13:41 |
lilalinux |
thx |
| 13:41 |
lilalinux |
that's quite confusing |
| 13:56 |
maholtz|WORK |
@lilalinux: you are programming php? then you should have a look at stdWrap implementation |
| 13:57 |
lilalinux |
indeed, sometimes that'd more efficient than googling :-/ |
| 13:57 |
lilalinux |
...be... |
| 13:59 |
lilalinux |
what's the recommended extension for formmails? powermail? |
| 14:03 |
jbaptiste_j |
hi anyone who plans on coming to the French University in Annecy ? |
| 14:14 |
maholtz|WORK |
@jbaptiste_j: what happens there? |
| 14:34 |
lilalinux |
jbaptiste_j: free beer? hookers? |
| 14:35 |
just2b |
http://www.rggooglemap.com/fotos/t3board09.html ;) |
| 14:39 |
maholtz|WORK |
great pictures |
| 14:40 |
just2b |
thx ;) |
| 14:42 |
just2b |
;) it is just snow, fun and beer :D |
| 14:44 |
jbaptiste_j |
I go there to learn typo3, I'm not crazy about beers and quite picky about my hookers |
| 14:45 |
jbaptiste_j |
But I need to know how much the housing will cost because It's my boss who's paying (except for the hooker thing) |
| 14:52 |
pmk65 |
Not many bosses are willing to pay for hookers :) |
| 14:54 |
ckoehler |
how about you guys stay on topic |
| 14:57 |
jbaptiste_j |
/join #hookersWhoCanTS |
| 15:12 |
jangla |
I have a problem I'd really appreciate some help on: I'm building an extension that will use some AJAX to populate a control. For example, this extension is called class.tx_myExt_pi1.php. From this script I've managed to set up the control framework, the only thing that's left is the AJAX bit. For this I need to call another php file which will be configured to query the database and return... |
| 15:12 |
jangla |
...a JSON response. Only trouble is, I'm not sure what I need to add to the top of this new file (let's call it get-data.php) so it can access standard Typo3 calls such as $res = $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->exec_SELECTquery('pid, uid, title','pages',$where, 'title asc'); |
| 15:12 |
jangla |
Can anyone help? |
| 15:18 |
ckoehler |
.names |
| 15:18 |
ckoehler |
not a patient fellow |
| 15:23 |
jangla |
oops! lost my connection for a minute there. so did anyone respond to the message I'd only just posted when I dropped out? |
| 15:24 |
ckoehler |
yes |
| 15:24 |
ckoehler |
look into eID |
| 15:24 |
ckoehler |
and the whiteboard extension as example |
| 15:24 |
ckoehler |
you define the eID, which gives you a URL to use for your ajax request |
| 15:24 |
ckoehler |
in that definition is the class and method that is called with your request |
| 15:24 |
ckoehler |
you get a lightweight typo3 environment |
| 15:25 |
ckoehler |
database and user access i think |
| 15:26 |
jangla |
can't use eID as I'm on typo3 3.8.x |
| 15:27 |
ckoehler |
update :) |
| 15:27 |
maholtz|WORK |
+1 vor update |
| 15:28 |
jangla |
tried that - the consultant doing it broke our typo3 installation so we had to ervert :( |
| 15:28 |
ckoehler |
it's like expecting Google Maps to work in IE5 |
| 15:28 |
ckoehler |
get another consultant |
| 15:28 |
ckoehler |
it's tough to do new stuff with old software |
| 15:30 |
jangla |
I know it's possible as the xajax tutor extension works in 3.8.x but I can't work out how |
| 15:33 |
ckoehler |
good luck :) |
| 15:33 |
ckoehler |
I doubt anyone can help you here |
| 15:33 |
ckoehler |
I used 3.8 when I first started with TYPO3, years ago |
| 15:33 |
tomsdale |
Is anyone using the salted passwords extension? Right now I'm using md5 hashed passwords but I'm not quite happy with it. |
| 15:34 |
ckoehler |
tomsdale: why not happy? |
| 15:34 |
tomsdale |
The "grain of salt" with salted passwords seems to be though that I need to setup ssl so I don't have to transmit plain text passwords over the wire. |
| 15:34 |
tomsdale |
And ssl certificates costs money ... right? |
| 15:35 |
ckoehler |
depends :) |
| 15:35 |
ckoehler |
if you don't want the browser to complain, then yes |
| 15:35 |
tomsdale |
well, if you have an untrusted certificate your users think the site is broken because their browser will warn them |
| 15:35 |
ckoehler |
right |
| 15:35 |
ckoehler |
but that's the safest bet for passwords |
| 15:36 |
ckoehler |
super challenged login should work just fine for fe users |
| 15:36 |
tomsdale |
the problem with kb _md5 seems that it's not able to calculate the correct hash if the username contains special characters like french accents. |
| 15:36 |
ckoehler |
file a bug report |
| 15:36 |
tomsdale |
And people really like their accents here. |
| 15:36 |
ckoehler |
not sure how that one is coded |
| 15:37 |
ckoehler |
shouldn't be a problem in general, because the hash that's transmitted with the credentials, and the one it's compared to serer side, should both be broken |
| 15:37 |
ckoehler |
and that should make it work correctly again |
| 15:37 |
ckoehler |
unless both are computed differently |
| 15:37 |
maholtz|WORK |
@ckoehler: afaik there is a problem |
| 15:38 |
tomsdale |
From what I understand one is javascript - one is php, so there is already a difference :-) |
| 15:38 |
ckoehler |
it may |
| 15:38 |
maholtz|WORK |
on the one hand it is calculated via javascript - on the other via php |
| 15:38 |
ckoehler |
jsut going off how the BE logins work |
| 15:38 |
ckoehler |
there it's computed once and salted with microtime or something |
| 15:39 |
ckoehler |
so ya, kb_md5 shouldn't do it differently |
| 15:39 |
tomsdale |
e.G. the confirmation e-mail sends the hash embedded in the message - so it comes from the server. There it works also with accents. |
| 15:39 |
ckoehler |
maybe file a bugreport |
| 15:39 |
tomsdale |
yes - I'll investigate a little more and then I'll do that. |
| 15:40 |
ckoehler |
i thought hashed passwords would be in the core by now |
| 15:40 |
tomsdale |
I'm still wonderhing how it can be that since 2006 I'm the first one to come accross this problem :-) |
| 15:41 |
tomsdale |
well, not the javascript on the client side. |
| 15:42 |
tomsdale |
Actually I could use the e-mail/pwd as combo. there are no accents allowed in e-mail addresses. |
| 15:44 |
TaucherMK |
tomsdale: Using md5 without ssl isn't secure |
| 15:44 |
TaucherMK |
tomsdale: It's like putting a sign on it: Here, you won't guess what the password is ;-) |
| 15:45 |
randomresult |
hi there |
| 15:45 |
tomsdale |
TaucherMK: IMO it's still better than plain text pwd anyone who can type tcpdump in a cli can read. |
| 15:46 |
tomsdale |
TaucherMK: it's a social community site so I have to find a compromise between security and not too much trouble for the Enduser. |
| 15:46 |
tomsdale |
TaucherMK: does anyone know how e.G Facebook does their authentication? |
| 15:47 |
TaucherMK |
tomsdale: Clicking on "Trust CaCert" is more trouble for the enduser than hacked passwords? |
| 15:47 |
TaucherMK |
tomsdale: SSL... |
| 15:48 |
tomsdale |
well, they don't mind the 200 bucks a year. That's more than I charge the client for hosting. |
| 15:48 |
TaucherMK |
tomsdale: So sign your Cert for free |
| 15:49 |
TaucherMK |
(let it sign) |
| 15:49 |
tomsdale |
do you mean just create one and accept the error message or can you apply for one free for non profit sites ? |
| 15:50 |
TaucherMK |
i mean create one and let it sign by an organization that signs certificates for free |
| 15:52 |
tomsdale |
ah, I didn't know that exists. Gotta read up on it. |
| 15:52 |
TaucherMK |
e.g. CaCert |
| 15:53 |
TaucherMK |
surely the user has to accept the certificate one time (the CaCert Root Certificate) as long as the application doesn't comes along with it |
| 15:55 |
tomsdale |
well, this already complains on my browser. That's 90% of my users who will think the site is broken and quit their session. https://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=1 |
| 15:55 |
maholtz680 |
re |
| 15:58 |
TaucherMK |
tomsdale: You can explain it just before the user logs in and everything is fine |
| 15:59 |
TaucherMK |
tomsdale: You can also help CaCert to improve Quality so their Cert will be implemented in Firefox, Opera,... |
| 16:00 |
TaucherMK |
tomsdale: But in fact, the most community sites don't care about security, so you will be fine with hashed passwords |
| 16:05 |
ockmonix |
heyho |
| 16:06 |
tomsdale |
actually I have a shocking amount of 25% of IE6 users. Maybe you are right and pwd security is one of my least problems :-) |
| 16:09 |
tomsdale |
6.5% of them still on win98 - tsts |
| 16:12 |
TaucherMK |
tomsdale: lol, if this is true the users won't care when you publish there passwords in plain text... |
| 16:13 |
TaucherMK |
their |
| 16:13 |
tomsdale |
maybe I should already prefill the pwd field with "password" to save trouble |
| 16:20 |
spabhat |
is it possible to integrate date2cal with mailformplus? |
| 16:21 |
spabhat |
anyone with some idea? |
| 16:41 |
m0oman |
25% ie6 users doesn't sound like anything special really though. :O |
| 16:41 |
m0oman |
just look at big companies. MANY of them are running ie6. |
| 16:46 |
dokma |
maholtz680: have you ever tried to make a content element display only on the first visit in a session? |
| 17:02 |
lilalinux |
bye ichat, welcome back adium :-) |
| 17:02 |
ckoehler |
lilalinux: finally coming to your senses |
| 17:02 |
lilalinux |
ckoehler: I liked the videochat though |
| 17:03 |
lilalinux |
and screensharing, but I'm not using it that frequent |
| 17:04 |
ckoehler |
anyone using irssi here for irc? |
| 17:08 |
beav1s |
sure |
| 17:08 |
beav1s |
me |
| 17:08 |
ckoehler |
with screen? |
| 17:08 |
beav1s |
? |
| 17:08 |
beav1s |
sure, what else? |
| 17:08 |
beav1s |
what do you mean |
| 17:09 |
ckoehler |
man screen |
| 17:09 |
ckoehler |
:) |
| 17:09 |
ckoehler |
easier than trying to explain it |
| 17:09 |
beav1s |
gr, need to install "screen" for manfiles. and google...-> urgs |
| 17:10 |
ckoehler |
k |
| 17:10 |
ckoehler |
sec |
| 17:10 |
beav1s |
i tought you mean screen/display lol |
| 17:10 |
ckoehler |
no |
| 17:10 |
ckoehler |
heh |
| 17:10 |
ckoehler |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen |
| 17:10 |
ckoehler |
and http://blog.zerodeviation.net/2008/07/irssi-irc-goodness-and-growl/ |
| 17:11 |
beav1s |
also, ich zieh mir den artikel mal eben rein ;) |
| 17:11 |
beav1s |
mh, no |
| 17:12 |
beav1s |
no screen here. but if you "press" crtl+z, irssi is hidden, and you can use this terminal for "anything you want" and if you are done. you can bring irssi back with typing "fg" into this terminal |
| 17:13 |
ckoehler |
yeah but irssi is stopped |
| 17:13 |
ckoehler |
you also have to do bg i think |
| 17:13 |
ckoehler |
does it stick around if you close the terminal? |
| 17:13 |
beav1s |
oh, yes. |
| 17:14 |
beav1s |
you need an bg for restarting |
| 17:14 |
beav1s |
mh, i dont know, i will test it. if im gone, it doesn't work ;) |
| 17:14 |
beav1s |
a little wait |
| 17:14 |
ckoehler |
thinking about setting irssi up with screen on my server |
| 17:14 |
ckoehler |
so it's always on |
| 17:15 |
beav1s |
it seems like, irssi needs the "old" terminal where you started irssi |
| 17:16 |
beav1s |
mh, you can also use an bot and connecting to it |
| 17:16 |
beav1s |
its "the same" |
| 17:16 |
beav1s |
always online |
| 17:16 |
ckoehler |
a proxy ? |
| 17:16 |
beav1s |
i think it names eggdrop or something |
| 17:17 |
beav1s |
ckoehler: you are able to use proxy with it, yes |
| 17:18 |
ckoehler |
well, i mean a bot doesn't help much if you have to turn your computer off |
| 17:18 |
ckoehler |
so you need something running on a machine that's always on |
| 17:18 |
beav1s |
so, installing bot on the server->configure the bot with all needs-> setting the bot up/online | then you can connect with any irc client (irssi too) into the bot, and it looks like "the normal irssi" for example |
| 17:23 |
ckoehler |
hm |
| 17:23 |
ckoehler |
wonder what the point of that is |
| 17:24 |
beav1s |
ckoehler: qry ok? its easier in german ;) |
| 17:24 |
ckoehler |
how do you know i speak german? |
| 17:25 |
beav1s |
your ip adress ;) |
| 17:25 |
beav1s |
and your name lol |
| 17:25 |
ckoehler |
which points to Oklahoma |
| 17:25 |
ckoehler |
USA |
| 17:25 |
ckoehler |
not an uncommon name here :) |
| 17:25 |
beav1s |
koehler is a german name |
| 17:25 |
ckoehler |
ya my grandparents are german |
| 17:25 |
beav1s |
ö any american with an ö? never seen ;) |
| 17:25 |
ckoehler |
and my parents... |
| 17:26 |
ckoehler |
oe |
| 17:26 |
beav1s |
oh, so you dont speak german? |
| 17:26 |
ckoehler |
yeah i do, just messing with you |
| 17:26 |
ckoehler |
and yea, query is fine |
| 17:54 |
maholtz680 |
re |
| 17:54 |
maholtz680 |
@dokma: still there? |
| 17:55 |
dokma |
yup |
| 17:55 |
maholtz680 |
@ckoehler: to show that i am back - i usually do not change status if i am afk |
| 17:56 |
maholtz680 |
@dokma: http://www.stadtwerke-osnabrueck.de/energie-wasser/strom/preise-abrechnung/privatkunden.html |
| 17:56 |
ckoehler |
as you shouldn't. I guess it means return? |
| 17:56 |
dokma |
maholtz680: I've done it using javascript and cookies |
| 17:56 |
maholtz680 |
there i used session with typoscript |
| 17:56 |
maholtz680 |
ah, ok, yep thats the way |
| 17:57 |
maholtz680 |
@ckoehler: yep, you are right - why should i not ? |
| 17:57 |
ckoehler |
name changes on status change are frowned up |
| 17:57 |
ckoehler |
there is /away for that |
| 17:57 |
ckoehler |
*upon* |
| 17:57 |
dokma |
maholtz680: I guess that is the only approach when using static file cache |
| 17:57 |
ckoehler |
it just makes more sense to say something like "back" |
| 17:58 |
maholtz680 |
@ckoehler: /away does not work here |
| 17:58 |
ckoehler |
huh? |
| 17:58 |
ckoehler |
why? |
| 17:58 |
maholtz680 |
@dokma: you are right |
| 17:58 |
maholtz680 |
@ckoehler: do not know - i am an irc noob *g* |
| 17:58 |
ckoehler |
should work |
| 17:58 |
ckoehler |
/away some away message |
| 17:58 |
ckoehler |
and /away when you're backk |
| 17:59 |
ckoehler |
then, when you do /whois, you see the person away |
| 17:59 |
ckoehler |
and some clients show that in the nick list |
| 17:59 |
maholtz680 |
whois works |
| 18:00 |
ckoehler |
http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
| 18:00 |
ckoehler |
nice try maholtz680 :) |
| 18:00 |
ckoehler |
tststs |
| 18:01 |
maholtz680 |
what did i? |
| 18:01 |
ckoehler |
requested CTCP USERINFO from me |
| 18:01 |
maholtz680 |
did it again - is that bad? |
| 18:02 |
maholtz680 |
and looks like /away works |
| 18:02 |
ckoehler |
what did it tell you? |
| 18:02 |
maholtz680 |
bug i do not see it... |
| 18:02 |
ckoehler |
of course /away works :) |
| 18:02 |
maholtz680 |
i get "Me name, arrr!" |
| 18:02 |
ckoehler |
haha |
| 18:03 |
ckoehler |
ya i made it say that |
| 18:03 |
ckoehler |
for the snoopy kind |
| 18:03 |
ckoehler |
you can also check my client |
| 18:03 |
maholtz680 |
ok, i see, that i am an happy Miranda IM user:) |
| 18:04 |
ckoehler |
maholtz680: yeah it works |
| 18:04 |
ckoehler |
annoying... |
| 18:04 |
ckoehler |
didn't think it automatically spammed the channel |
| 18:04 |
ckoehler |
does it for me? |
| 18:04 |
maholtz680 |
yep, i saw that you get my userinfo |
| 18:05 |
ckoehler |
yeah, but did you see my away status? |
| 18:05 |
maholtz680 |
nope |
| 18:05 |
ckoehler |
k good |
| 18:09 |
ckoehler |
irc goodness |
| 18:25 |
dokma |
ries: you here? |
| 18:26 |
dokma |
voidus: you around? |
| 18:27 |
voidus |
dokma: yes |
| 18:27 |
dokma |
let me ask you a quick one |
| 18:27 |
dokma |
have you noticed that some extensions add ts as soon as they are installed |
| 18:28 |
dokma |
while others only when you include static |
| 18:28 |
voidus |
yes |
| 18:28 |
ries |
dokma: yes I am |
| 18:28 |
dokma |
I can't figure out the difference |
| 18:28 |
dokma |
ries join in on this |
| 18:28 |
dokma |
the issue is that nc_staticfilecache dislikes USER_INT extensions |
| 18:28 |
voidus |
dokma: the second are better... |
| 18:29 |
dokma |
voidus: so you think that all extension can be made so that they add to ts only upon include static |
| 18:29 |
ries |
I think that that method is better |
| 18:30 |
ries |
include staticx that is... |
| 18:30 |
voidus |
dokma: yes, they can... it depends only on one function called in ext_tables or ext_localconf |
| 18:30 |
dokma |
voidus: yes that is my hunch aswell |
| 18:31 |
dokma |
so I was thinking powermail here. it has ext_typoscript_constants.txt & ext_typoscript_setup.txt in the root of the extension |
| 18:31 |
dokma |
so all I should do to convert it is move there files to something like pi1/static/ |
| 18:31 |
dokma |
and add that call to ext_tables or ext_localconf |
| 18:31 |
dokma |
voidus: am I right on this one? |
| 18:32 |
dokma |
ries: have you ever converted an extension from include always to include from template? |
| 18:33 |
voidus |
dokma: the location of files is not so important, afaik |
| 18:33 |
voidus |
dokma: but in general you're right, i think |
| 18:36 |
dokma |
voidus: I'm trying to convert powermail right now |
| 18:36 |
voidus |
i'm not so close to typo3 nowdays... |
| 18:38 |
dokma |
voidus: ok now I have it in the includes static list |
| 18:38 |
dokma |
but it is still included immediately upon installation |
| 18:40 |
ries |
dokma: No, but I think that it's fairly easy |
| 18:40 |
ries |
just move the TS to the static folder |
| 18:40 |
ries |
and remove teh incloude from one of the PH files within the extension |
| 18:43 |
crisb2010 |
hi |
| 18:43 |
crisb2010 |
is someone here using dmail? |
| 18:47 |
ries |
voidus: have you ever used a java CMS like magnolia or portals like liferay? |
| 18:47 |
ckoehler |
whoa that sounds painful |
| 18:47 |
voidus |
ries: no... |
| 18:47 |
ries |
ckoehler: why would that be? |
| 18:48 |
dokma |
ries: I did move the ts |
| 18:48 |
dokma |
but it is still getting include upon installation |
| 18:51 |
ries |
dokma: did you remove the call to t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43 ??? |
| 18:51 |
ckoehler |
ries: java and web just sounds ... slow and complicated |
| 18:51 |
ries |
ckoehler: that is liek saying that mySQL is so much faster then PostgreSQL... that is outdated information... |
| 18:52 |
voidus |
ries: yeah, you're a postgre man, yo) can you show me some quick advantages on using postgre rather than mysql? |
| 18:53 |
ries |
voidus: PostgreSQL doesn't use threads but processes... using that allows you to scale much better on multi-processor systems |
| 18:54 |
ries |
PostgreSQL is also faster compared to InnoDB... on disk database is smaller compared to InnoDB and PostgreSQL has a far better stored procedure system... |
| 18:55 |
ries |
you can make plsql procedures, java procedures C procedures and for the PHP people you can even have php based stored procedures |
| 18:56 |
voidus |
php stored procedures? :fear: :fear: |
| 18:56 |
ries |
hehehe... well you can... I wouldn't advice it :) |
| 18:56 |
ckoehler |
ries: didn't say it was slow, just sounds like it |
| 18:57 |
ries |
ck-: it really isn't anymore... it the far past it was not that fast... |
| 18:57 |
ries |
ckoehler: |
| 18:57 |
ckoehler |
does it run on tomcat or something? |
| 18:57 |
ries |
ckoehler: what I like most actually is the number of high quality frameworks and libraries |
| 18:58 |
ckoehler |
what makes it stand out compared to, say, ruby? |
| 18:58 |
ries |
ckoehler: I personally use glassfish a lot... but Magnolia and liferay also runs on tomcat I believe |
| 18:59 |
ries |
ckoehler: I don't know ruby there is jython though.... |
| 18:59 |
ries |
What I personally like most about Java is typechecking and the bytecode compiler... that already irons out a lot of simple typo errors |
| 19:00 |
ckoehler |
you'd really like c++.... |
| 19:01 |
ries |
I have used c++ in the far past for desktop applications |
| 19:02 |
ries |
actually... for one project we moved over from PHP to Java because we needed to manage 'large' arrays, with large I mean 10.000 records (not really large) doing that in PHP was dog slow. With java it was really fast |
| 19:03 |
ries |
I am not trying to advocate here... I think PHP is great, but not for complex frameworks... PHP should be a scripting language... nothing more nothign less |
| 19:04 |
ries |
ckoehler: I was mistaken.. there is JRuby also... |
| 19:04 |
ckoehler |
yeah |
| 19:07 |
timdeluxe |
ries: what do you "store" in that 10000 record arrays? i mean, do you put a whole database table into that array and use that later in your code? isn't it better to query only the parts of the table you need? |
| 19:08 |
ries |
timdeluxe: It's used for reporting back to a adobe Flex client |
| 19:08 |
ries |
timdeluxe: the 10.000 where indeed also just the data that was needed, nothing more and nothing less |
| 19:08 |
timdeluxe |
oh okay |
| 19:09 |
timdeluxe |
crazy application |
| 19:10 |
timdeluxe |
i am not that into applications. i work as a server admin and ask myself several times, why some of your systems need terabytes of database storage |
| 19:10 |
dokma |
ries: I'm back. Removed the addPItoST43 and now there is no more powermail by default in the objectbrowser |
| 19:11 |
dokma |
now I need to test if everything works fine when include static is used |
| 19:11 |
ries |
timdeluxe: to be honest... we could use all sorts of paging techniques to load parts of the data... But we rather make things simple at this point and use a language that can support our needs rather then using a language we know and program a lot of run-arounds |
| 19:12 |
dokma |
ries: ERROR: Content Element type "powermail_pi1" has no rendering definition! |
| 19:12 |
ries |
timdeluxe: our DB's are fairly small... I think the largest table I have is 750.000 records... (properly normalised) |
| 19:13 |
ries |
our largest DB is around 10GB I think... |
| 19:13 |
timdeluxe |
ries: yeah, i know that way of work. it is called KISS :D |
| 19:13 |
ries |
yup... KISS rocks... |
| 19:13 |
timdeluxe |
ries: that would be one of our small DBs |
| 19:13 |
timdeluxe |
a bunch of them is around 100-200GB |
| 19:14 |
ries |
timdeluxe: we don't have that size... I believe finance is using large DB's... |
| 19:15 |
timdeluxe |
yes |
| 19:15 |
timdeluxe |
only finance systems |
| 19:15 |
timdeluxe |
SAP and a some oracle based systems |
| 19:18 |
dokma |
ries: please check this out: http://89.149.209.209/template.png |
| 19:19 |
ries |
dokma: I don't know TYPO3 very well anymore :s |
| 19:20 |
dokma |
ries: lol :) |
| 19:20 |
dokma |
I think I found the culprit |
| 19:21 |
dokma |
in the object browser under plugins all entries look like this: [tx_weeaargooglesitemap_pi1] = USER |
| 19:21 |
dokma |
[tx_automaketemplate_pi1] = USER |
| 19:21 |
dokma |
but powermail looks like this: |
| 19:21 |
dokma |
[tx_powermail_pi1] |
| 19:21 |
dokma |
it's missing the = USER_INT part |
| 19:23 |
dokma |
it might be because there is no this line in the code: $this->pi_USER_INT_obj = 1; |
| 19:44 |
lous |
hey, i added some custom fields into tt_products and i can view them perfectly in single view but i cant view them in list view. Does anyone know why? |
| 19:58 |
lous |
no one can help? :( |
| 20:09 |
lous |
pleeeease :) |
| 20:10 |
_pedda_ |
probably you have to add them to list view as well |
| 20:10 |
_pedda_ |
i have no experience with tt_products |
| 20:11 |
lous |
ok |
| 20:11 |
lous |
by the way, hey pedda :) |
| 20:11 |
lous |
maybe u remember me :) |
| 20:11 |
_pedda_ |
yure |
| 20:11 |
_pedda_ |
s |
| 20:11 |
lous |
^^ |
| 20:11 |
lous |
how are you? |
| 20:11 |
_pedda_ |
bad |
| 20:12 |
lous |
oh? hope nothing serious |
| 20:12 |
_pedda_ |
still in office.. and it ssems as if my tasks would make me stay for a while here |
| 20:12 |
lous |
haha :) |
| 20:13 |
lous |
dont know in english but, mein beileid :) |
| 20:13 |
_pedda_ |
hehe |
| 20:13 |
_pedda_ |
thx |
| 20:13 |
lous |
welcome :D |
| 20:18 |
PommesMc |
hello! |
| 20:18 |
_pedda_ |
hi |
| 20:19 |
PommesMc |
i'm completely new with typo3 |
| 20:20 |
PommesMc |
I feel a bit helpless cause I lost my Typo3 passwort... |
| 20:20 |
_pedda_ |
#for be ? |
| 20:20 |
_pedda_ |
this is no problem |
| 20:20 |
timdeluxe |
or for install tool? |
| 20:20 |
_pedda_ |
if you can access the installtool you cann create a new adminuser |
| 20:20 |
PommesMc |
:( but where can I get a new one? |
| 20:20 |
PommesMc |
no i can't |
| 20:20 |
_pedda_ |
ok |
| 20:21 |
_pedda_ |
no problem |
| 20:21 |
PommesMc |
how to? |
| 20:21 |
_pedda_ |
somwhere in your localconf.php |
| 20:21 |
_pedda_ |
within typo3conf directory yyou have a line which contains installToolPasswort |
| 20:21 |
PommesMc |
ooook |
| 20:21 |
_pedda_ |
just replace the value of it by md5(test) |
| 20:21 |
_pedda_ |
and you can access your typo3 install tool again |
| 20:22 |
PommesMc |
than it'll be alright`? |
| 20:22 |
_pedda_ |
in order to create a new admin user |
| 20:22 |
PommesMc |
okay thanks a lot... i'll try so |
| 20:22 |
_pedda_ |
np |
| 20:27 |
lous |
hmpf, no one here whos in expert with tt_products? :) |
| 20:28 |
_pedda_ |
you're too late |
| 20:28 |
_pedda_ |
try to ask your questions from 9 to 5 |
| 20:28 |
lous |
cet? |
| 20:29 |
timdeluxe |
lol |
| 20:29 |
timdeluxe |
sounds like opening hours |
| 20:32 |
_pedda_ |
indeed |
| 20:37 |
_pedda_ |
any experienced with advanced indexed search ? |
| 22:13 |
FortexX |
hi |
| 22:14 |
FortexX |
hey guys i have a question |
| 22:15 |
timdeluxe |
dont ask to ask just ask |
| 22:15 |
FortexX |
im trying to build up a community page with some extra features using typo3. now which forum plugin would you recommend me? |
| 22:17 |
timdeluxe |
there i cant help, i am not using any forum ext |
| 22:18 |
FortexX |
well ok but thx for trying to help me^^ |
| 22:18 |
FortexX |
why is every irc room full of idle people all day long? :D |
| 22:19 |
timdeluxe |
cause people seem to have enough money to power their computer all day long |
| 22:19 |
timdeluxe |
good for my employer :D |
| 22:19 |
timdeluxe |
bad for the nature |
| 22:20 |
FortexX |
and frustrating for newbies who get optimistic facing the huge amount of people possibly helping you out :D |
| 22:21 |
timdeluxe |
my way of doing such things: |
| 22:22 |
timdeluxe |
search the TER for the topic (here "forum") |
| 22:22 |
timdeluxe |
do a fast overview |
| 22:23 |
timdeluxe |
pick out the extension with most downloads (i know that it is malfunctioning at the moment) or a high version number or a beta / stable status |
| 22:23 |
timdeluxe |
then throw a short view on the manual |
| 22:23 |
timdeluxe |
and then decide it |
| 22:23 |
timdeluxe |
often there are only one or two left for my topic |
| 22:24 |
FortexX |
ah ok not that bad of an idea to look at the date of last change too i think.. chc_forum is idle since 06 |
| 22:24 |
timdeluxe |
right |
| 22:25 |
timdeluxe |
it's a mixture of everything |
| 22:25 |
timdeluxe |
;) |
| 22:25 |
timdeluxe |
< afk |
| 22:26 |
FortexX |
alright thx seems like you could help me^^ cu |
| 23:31 |
twoten |
hi everybody! |
| 23:32 |
twoten |
anyone know how to edit the front end user registration form? |
| 23:34 |
twoten |
must be in a flexform somewhere ... |
