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08:37 Bluespuke morning folks
09:17 _pedda_ hi all
09:17 Bluespuke hi
09:19 ZioCorto hi
09:41 iOops hi
09:41 fladi hi
09:43 ZioCorto hi
10:22 swemark G'day TYPO3
11:05 tommyd Hi all! Is it possible to make typo3 use a different language as the default language in a subtree of a site in the backend?
11:05 tommyd i.e. I have de as default language for one site / domain, but want en as default language for another site / tree / domain
11:06 tommyd I want that all pages and records under site 2 are by default created in the language en and can possibly translated into another language
11:06 tommyd this is basically a mixture between the old two-tree concept and the usage of overlay records in a one tree concept
11:08 tommyd code-like the IDs of sys_language don't have to change, just that the translated records use a different base (not sys_language_uid=0 but sys_language_uid=1)
11:27 swemark tommyd: make a template on the page and set config.language = XX and config.languageuid
11:28 swemark config.language_uid = ID # OF LANGUAGE
11:28 tommyd but this is a frontend setting
11:28 swemark yep
11:28 tommyd I need something which is probably done with PageTS
11:29 swemark Oh
11:29 swemark i see
11:29 tommyd I want that editors of the english subtree see english as default language for their records
11:29 tommyd and editors of the german subtree german as default langauge
11:30 tommyd google is not helpful because it mainly targets me at what you've been repeating as well ;)
11:30 swemark And that doesnt work?
11:30 tommyd again, with normal templates I cannot change the rendering of backend forms anyhow
11:31 tommyd I suspect Typo3 uses sys_language_uid=0 as default language for the complete setup
11:32 ZioCorto :O
11:44 ndee has anyone pbsurvey running? I installed it but in the backend module, I just get a blank page. I logged out and in again but it stays blank. Any help is appreciated.
11:46 fladi ndee - enable debuging and check for php-errors
11:47 teppi|work ndee .. seems to be a php error .. delete the extension from extList in typo3conf/localconf.php and delete the caching files under typo3conf/ then log in again
11:47 fladi ndee: http://dmitry-dulepov.com/article/blank-empty-page-in-typo3.html
11:48 teppi|work fladis tipps look better :-)
11:48 ndee it's not a php error. I log the php errors to a file and it's empty but I gonna check dmitrys post.
11:48 arne-snc hello, i have a little problem using the sourceopt-plugin. when i use german umlauts the content element is not shown. has anybody a suggestions?
11:50 ndee still nothing shows up, so I will remove the extension
11:50 ndee and delete everything
11:51 fladi ndee: jep - good way
11:53 ndee works now. Sweet :)
12:06 lilalinux when a fe_user deletes his own account, the account is not really deleted, i guess for referential integrity reasons. However, is it possible to have sensible data like the email address automatically overwriten e.g. by null?
12:15 mcahornsirup__ Hi, I'am not familiar with Typo3 but with some other frameworks - does anybody know if Typo3 scales for large sites too?
12:27 mcahornsirup__ I talked to a webguy and he told me Typo3 is not to recommend for large projects in terms of high user traffic. He also told me that there are no large sites out there ... is this true? I thought Typo3 is a real and powerful cms, able to scale... any comments?
12:34 razer_ hiho!
12:35 razer_ are there any good tutorials for frontend login?
12:35 flobbie Isn't https://typo3.org/ a large site?
12:37 flobbie razer_: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/tut_newloginbox_de/0.0.1/view/1/2/ for example?
12:40 ndee I create an image with $this->cObj->IMAGE($img); Is it somehow possible to pass that object an ID?
12:43 pmk65 mcahornsirup__: The Danish site www.forbrug.dk has 150000 unique visitors a day.
12:44 ndee params is the magic word :D
12:44 pmk65 mcahornsirup__: There's some info on how they handle that using TYPO3 -> > mcahornsirup__:
12:44 pmk65 http://typo3.org/development/articles/using-cache-control-headers-in-typo3/
12:48 mcahornsirup__ pmk_65 thanks. Great - exactly what I'am looking for. Looks like Typo3 is not a bad choice in general... the guy I was talking to was telling me something about using Zend instead... but this comparison does not make much sense from my point of view. I think it is possible to compare Zend with Rails or Django but not with a CMS itself - right?
12:50 pmk65 mcahornsirup__: You can use this site to compare various CMS systems.. -> http://cmsmatrix.org/
13:09 lilalinux Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'PATH_tslibclass.tslib_pibase.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/georg-martin.de/vhosts/www/htdocs/typo3conf/ext/kb_md5fepw/pi1/class.tx_kbmd5fepw_newloginbox.php on line 39
13:09 lilalinux help
13:17 razer_ flobbie: thx
13:27 lilalinux anybody?
13:28 lilalinux the require once is the same like in every other extension, too
13:43 Dead Hi I have a hard time catching method to use ajax in the backend. Is there someone who could help with the stand it a little better?
13:47 Dead lilalinux Which Linux provider do you use
13:48 lilalinux Dead: Actually we are our own ISP
13:48 lilalinux http://www.net-lab.net/
13:52 Dead lilalinux Okay. My idea is that the folders do not exist or is not permitted access to them. In addition to pear deficiency. I have to return no idea why it requires those folders. I myself have only Smarty in php folder. But it would be a guess to the problem.
13:53 Dead pear missing *
13:55 Dead Sry. I use Google translate.
13:59 lilalinux Dead: the line in question is the same like in many other extensions
14:00 lilalinux I don't think that pear has something todo with the problem
14:01 lilalinux I guess it's a problem with the PATH_ts variable/constant or whatever it is
14:02 lilalinux PATH_tslib
14:04 Dead Are you using kbmd5fepw elsewhere for a login or user creation, etc.?
14:06 Dead lilalinux Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'PATH_tslibclass.tslib_pibase.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in
14:06 Dead This line tells you very clearly that the problem lies with those folders. It may be missing something to be used like I do not think this is a bug which then
14:07 lilalinux Yes, I'm using kb_md5fepw
14:08 lilalinux however, the displayed error only shows what the include_path is
14:08 lilalinux I suspect, that PATH_tslib can't be resolved
14:09 lilalinux and is used literally
14:10 lilalinux PATH_tslib is defined in typo3_src/index.php
14:10 lilalinux but tc_directmail creates a link directly to foo/click.php
14:11 lilalinux I disabled click tracking for the moment, so this is not a big problem
14:11 Dead Yes I think you can have right
14:12 Dead And it works ?
14:14 lilalinux without click tracking, yes
14:16 Dead Okay. Make a bug report on it.
14:16 Dead I think :P
14:17 Dead To be internal, there was no one there could explain it with ajax in backend?
14:20 fred^ So who are using tinymce_rte in production by now?
14:23 pmk65 fred^: Me :)
14:24 pmk65 And so is daKmoR, I believe..
14:25 fred^ I can not get the latest versions to work with IE
14:25 fred^ It gives me an javascript error with Object required
14:25 fred^ What versions are you using?
14:25 fred^ I am downgrading back to .07 which I have working on some sites
14:29 pmk65 fred^: Im using v0.3.2, but the version from SVN, as there was a small bug in the TER version.
14:29 pmk65 The bug caused my system to fire some JS errors, so the editor wouldn't load.
14:31 fred^ I'll check that out right away
14:31 fred^ It might be the same problem as I am experiencing
14:31 pmk65 You can also fix the TER 0.3.2 version yourself. All you need to do, is change line 163 of "tiny_mce/tiny_mce_gzip.php" from "$path = realpath($path);" to "$path = @realpath($path);"
14:32 pmk65 (That fixed all my loading problems..)
14:34 daKmoR pmk65 of course I'm using tinymce_rte in several productive evirorments...
14:35 fred^ Hmm, that only fixed the first problem, but now I got a new js error
14:40 fred^ Aha, I have 0.3.1
14:44 pmk65 fred^: always clear TYPO3 caches, browser caches and finally reload the BE, as "leftover" Js can still be sitting in the cache.
14:46 fred^ Yes thankyou, I do that every time
14:46 fred^ There we go, upgraded to 0.3.2 and applied your fix
14:46 fred^ Hurrah :)
14:54 pmk65 fred^: To configure TinyMCE RTE, you can use the button config utility -> http://www.delusionworld.com/files/tinymce_rte-config-utility/
14:58 fred^ Yeah, I saw you mentioning it some time ago, thank you
14:58 fred^ Its really nice
14:58 fred^ One thing I was thinking about. Have you tried to use content templates within tinymce`?
14:59 fred^ It might be a alternative to FCEs
15:02 daKmoR fred^ http://screencast.com/t/hXzWKFkPr0
15:10 fladi looks like I should gibe tinymce_rte a try...
16:00 lilalinux how do I change the input format of dates/times?
16:08 NiFkE I have an xhtml template and I want to have some breadcrumbs on a place what should I place in my template will typo3/templavoila automatically detect it ?
16:42 NiFkE anybody?
16:44 _pedda_ NiFkE: you just have to map the position for your breadcrumb via templavoila-wizard
16:46 _pedda_ you have to create a tv field with the property to use TypoScript Objects before you map it
16:46 NiFkE :s
16:46 _pedda_ otherwise there is no field called Breadcrumb to map ;)
16:46 NiFkE and how do I create that field :p
16:46 _pedda_ 1. create field breadcrumb
16:47 NiFkE uhu
16:47 _pedda_ do you already have tv running ?
16:47 NiFkE yes now
16:47 NiFkE but hmm
16:47 NiFkE i'll redo everything
16:47 _pedda_ ok so you maste have created some fields a few time ago ;)
16:47 NiFkE I guess it's a bit fucked :p
16:47 _pedda_ *must
16:47 NiFkE changed many things in my design pfft :)
16:48 NiFkE like something else
16:48 NiFkE I have euhm a horizontal menu with "Home Test1 Test2"
16:48 _pedda_ tv field = [EL] <- (with blue fontcolor in be)
16:48 _pedda_ i know what a breadrcumb is ;)
16:49 NiFkE but I have a vertical menu also with "Home Test1 (submenu under Test1, test1field1, test1field2) Test2" do I repeat the main menu items from the horizontal menu in the vertical menu. but the vertical menu has more options is that a problem? :p
16:49 Georges_Abitbol Hi, i really need help on a simple thing with rte. When inserting an h3 at the beginning of a table cell, it adds an empty paragrph before the h3 (just in front, not in rte). I could not find what config ... Does anyone know ?
16:50 NiFkE let me create a new directory lol
16:50 _pedda_ click Web -> templavoila -> page templates -> choose your DS -> update mapping -> Modify DS / TO -> create new field
16:50 NiFkE btw I only need 1 root page ?
16:51 NiFkE like www.mysite.com
16:51 _pedda_ yes
16:51 NiFkE nothing more yes?
16:51 NiFkE k
16:51 _pedda_ if you have more than one websites within one pagetree you need more root templates as well.. if you want them to look different
16:52 NiFkE hm k I guess I only need one :)
16:52 NiFkE (kinda new with typo3 )
16:54 NiFkE just created a new typo3 directory to have a clean start with the dummy
17:10 Swaagie Hey, I just started working with Typo3 and now I am a little confused, are language packs included within the installation package or should I first install an extension? (found a lot about a language handler?)
17:11 _pedda_ they have to be installed additionally via ext manager
17:12 davidbrunnthaler hi guys, where can i find an old version of the mootools extension? i would need version 1.2.0..
17:13 Swaagie thx pedda, how come the repository on typo 3 marks all the language packs I am interested in as obsolete?
17:15 _pedda_ hmmm
17:15 _pedda_ quite a good question..
17:17 Swaagie Quote: "Wrong place to search:
17:17 Swaagie Extension Manager/Translation Handling
17:17 Swaagie Shift-Click the languages you want to use and clic "Save Selection".
17:17 Swaagie Then click "Update from repository".
17:18 Swaagie On this page is the explanation:
17:18 Swaagie "(This replaces the csh_* extensions that were used to install core
17:18 Swaagie translations before TYPO3 version 4!)".
17:18 Swaagie that why :P
17:25 flowdab hello.... how can i include a certain stylesheet in an extension template for a certain site?
17:34 nkuttler flowdab: the same way you include it in the main template
17:47 NiFkE I might need some help here:
17:48 NiFkE http://pastebin.com/m36080676
17:48 NiFkE for templavoila
17:50 fladi hi NiFkE : unfortunately i have to leave now - but why don't you just map a lib.menu within TV and then construct your ul with TS?
17:50 fladi much more flexible
17:50 fladi bbl
17:51 NiFkE because i'm new to typo3 and you are speaking chinese now :D
17:51 iOops hi, i try to use one extension but I got a error message. this message is not clear. I would like to have more informaiton, do use think it s bad to modify a source code from this extension and to had the php error_reporting(); ?
18:06 Swaagie is the task center preloaded standard with the options to make quick notes or actions after installation or does it require a module to be installed?
18:59 flowdab how can i include a stylesheet with css styled content
18:59 flowdab i just find sth like page.includeCSS = "mystyle.css"... but i have no page element :(
19:13 timdeluxe you can extend the header
19:13 timdeluxe flowdab: wait a mom, i'll search
19:14 timdeluxe do want to change the css if css styled content or do you want to add own definitions for other elements?
19:16 flowdab i want it to be an extension for certain sites
19:18 flowdab for example "contact.css" and so on...
19:18 timdeluxe i see
19:18 timdeluxe do you use templavoila?
19:19 flowdab no
19:19 flowdab css styled content only
19:20 timdeluxe you could use page.headerData
19:21 timdeluxe or includeCSS as you already said
19:22 timdeluxe or just stylesheet
19:22 timdeluxe so many possibilities :D
19:24 timdeluxe okay i am also learning
19:24 timdeluxe page.stylesheet is useful if you only want to add one stylesheet
19:25 timdeluxe includeCSS can support more than one
19:25 timdeluxe and with headerData it is completely on your own how the tag looks like
20:01 flowdab allright timdeluxe ... it worked
20:01 flowdab thank you very much
20:01 timdeluxe no problem
20:02 timdeluxe which one do you use now?
20:15 mathiasschreiber tadda.....
20:15 timdeluxe ?
20:15 mathiasschreiber cheers from Laax
20:16 timdeluxe ah cool
20:17 timdeluxe when you manage to set up that windows computer we could see you ;D
20:18 mathiasschreiber windows computer?
20:18 timdeluxe yes
20:18 timdeluxe here: http://kasper.baiz.org/live/ they said, they need windows to stream
20:18 mathiasschreiber I can hit jens for you, if you like....
20:18 mathiasschreiber less than 2m away from me
20:19 timdeluxe no, i am in all the chans, no need for it ;)
21:16 lous hi
22:09 lous hi
22:09 lous does anyone know, how i can add "autologin" at fe_login? I marked the checkbox for autologin at the plugin, but nothing appears on my front end
22:12 lila_schluckauf I have a TV template with a header part: <link rel="alternate" href="foo.rss" type="application/rss+xml" title="" />
22:12 lila_schluckauf Now I would like to dynamically change the href
22:12 lila_schluckauf is that possible via TS? Or would it be easier to create the header part via TS?
22:13 lous its possible
22:13 lous page.stylesheet = fileadmin/templates/style.css
22:27 lous no one there? :D

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