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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Saturday 2 May 2009

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10:21 rw-HedDi haloo all
10:21 rw-HedDi :)
10:28 squirrelpimp hi
10:29 squirrelpimp i have written a script to run database updates on multiple instances by connecting to the installtool of each installation
10:30 squirrelpimp now i want to flush the caches after updates have been performed and in addition to clearing the caches on the filesystem, the database caches should be cleared as well i guess
10:30 squirrelpimp so: Can i safely truncate all cache_* tables in the database? and are there any further tables to consider?
12:40 flobbie hi
12:41 flobbie I want to install Typo3 on Debian, but I can't find the package fly 2.0.0_PNG-561.. What do I have to install?
13:38 FabianEhlers hello?
13:38 FabianEhlers i need some help:)
13:40 FabianEhlers yeah
13:40 FabianEhlers registered now:D
13:40 FabianEhlers !help
13:40 FabianEhlers okay
13:40 FabianEhlers here is the problem
13:40 FabianEhlers i am making a template
13:40 FabianEhlers in dreamweaver
13:41 FabianEhlers looks like this www.lborobeats.co.uk/soon/index.jpg
13:41 FabianEhlers and i want to put contents in the white boxes
13:41 FabianEhlers and on the upper half the little grey boxes should be the navi
13:41 FabianEhlers but they are more than one button
13:42 FabianEhlers who can i convert the (<!-- ###NAVI### start --><!-- ###NAVI### stop -->) code into more navis?
13:42 FabianEhlers like (<!-- ###NAVI1### start --><!-- ###NAVI1### stop -->)
13:42 FabianEhlers the question is
13:42 FabianEhlers how can i make more than one content?
14:23 squirrelpimp is there a way to use t3lib_extMgm::addStaticFile in a global extTables.php file, to include static template information without a corresponding module?
15:59 louS hey
15:59 louS someone here who use calender base?
19:06 Phlogi louS: jup
21:06 Administrator_ hello
21:18 MGadAllah Please I was googling for something and I was not able to find a suitable answer for it
21:19 MGadAllah I used to be a Joomla fan but later on I've switched to Drupal which have more powerful features
21:19 MGadAllah But I've realized that some reviews mentioned TYPO3 as well
21:20 MGadAllah but I was a bit scared to touch it because of what has been mentioned in the typo3 website itself.
21:20 MGadAllah I mean this: please let me copy the text
21:21 MGadAllah Is TYPO3 for me ? If you were impressed by the feature list you're probably asking yourself if this product is for you? Be aware that all the flexibility and richness come with a price: complexity. If you're not ready to spend a month learning the system and are in a hurry to satisfy a customer, you should probably look into getting somebody to help you or look for something else. TYPO3 is...
21:21 MGadAllah ...a very huge and capable system and it cannot be fully learned in a week! TYPO3 will always have a long learning curve for developers. Once mastered, the system will let you do the most complex website and the authors using it will love you for the choice of TYPO3.
21:21 MGadAllah So please may some one help me with this issue and tell me if it will too damn hard to switch from Drupal to TYPO3
21:22 MGadAllah or just stick with Drupal.
21:22 MGadAllah Thanks in advance for your time.
21:24 void MGadAllah: it's a question... depends on how much time you have
21:25 MGadAllah I have about 2 hours per day for about 5 or 6 months
21:25 MGadAllah but i am a newbie
21:25 void MGadAllah: also it depends on which type of sites you are planning to build
21:25 MGadAllah i have no experience and no background for any thing like html, css, php
21:26 void oww..
21:26 MGadAllah i am planing to have a huge website as encyclopedia one
21:26 MGadAllah but i take it as a challenge
21:27 void are you sure that you really need a CMS?
21:27 void maybe you rather need a framework
21:27 MGadAllah Yes as I will include, news, audio, video and a forum
21:28 MGadAllah so i've tried wordpress 1st but later on i found it miss many things
21:28 MGadAllah i remember that i've rad something like that when i switched to drupal that drupal is a frame work more then a cms while joomla is a cms
21:28 MGadAllah but typo3 is the king of all of them out there
21:28 MGadAllah so this is how i think
21:29 MGadAllah I will need a good website to achieve several things
21:29 MGadAllah I am not after money here but i have another things to achieve
21:29 MGadAllah so i want to learn something that will payme back later on
21:30 MGadAllah and not to go with something and build a website and later on I found it not suitbale
21:30 void it may be disappointed if you learned such a big beast as typo3 and then understand that it does not suit your needs..
21:30 MGadAllah suitable*
21:30 MGadAllah according to the features list it dos fill all my needs
21:30 MGadAllah brb, daughter
21:40 MGadAllah i am back
21:40 MGadAllah so what would you suggest
21:40 MGadAllah 1st of all have you tried any other CMS
21:46 MGadAllah i am sorry if i am asking a silly questions
21:52 void MGadAllah: i've tried drupal some time ago. awful code and i cannot understand it admin interface.
21:52 MGadAllah good, then how long have you been using typo3
21:53 void for two years. and year ago i've switched from typo3, php and CMS worlds to django, python and frameworks worlds
22:02 MGadAllah what is the different between django and typo3 then
22:07 MGadAllah http://www.python.org/
22:07 MGadAllah http://www.djangoproject.com/
22:12 MGadAllah it seems that this place has advanced users that may be for sure feel boring of newbies questions like me
22:12 MGadAllah i was just thinking that maybe some one may answer me as all of us used to be newbies at some point
22:25 void MGadAllah: highlight me, plz.
22:27 MGadAllah void: what is the difference between cms and a frame work
22:29 void MGadAllah: CMS is a content management system, a product which you can use out-of-the box.
22:30 void MGadAllah: framework is a programmer's tool which allows you to build a CMS, or a forum, or a blog, or some other web application
22:31 MGadAllah hum ... so typo3 and drupal is a frame work and a cms in the main time
22:31 MGadAllah right
22:31 void right. they even have a term - content management framework, CMF
22:32 void but CMSes generally are bad as frameworks (and frameworks are bad as a CMSes)
22:33 void TYPO3 as a CMS have a lot of features which can suit, let's say, 90% of your needs. and for 10% you will need to write some php code.
22:34 void you need to understand which features you need, which types of sites you want to build before selecting an tools which you will use
22:41 ndee how can I create a FCE from a template?
22:50 void ndee: just like normal templavoila template..
22:50 ndee just going thru the FTB :D
22:55 ndee sometimes, I just love TYPO3 :D
23:27 darkelda hello
23:27 darkelda is there french user here?
23:35 FabianEhlers hello
23:35 FabianEhlers can someone help me?
23:41 MGadAllah void: Yes I want to learn typo3
23:41 MGadAllah what shall i do 1st before i go through it
23:41 FabianEhlers i dunno:D
23:41 MGadAllah is it to learn html
23:41 void FabianEhlers: ask your question
23:41 void MGadAllah: yes... html and css is the first
23:42 MGadAllah then go to typo3
23:42 MGadAllah good
23:42 FabianEhlers i made a template with dreamweaver and photoshop
23:42 FabianEhlers it looks like this www.lborobeats.co.uk/soon/index.jpg
23:42 FabianEhlers and now
23:43 FabianEhlers i want to put on all green markers and all white boxes including the tops of the boxes with a content
23:43 MGadAllah void: please may you tell me what are the main differences between drupal and typo3
23:43 FabianEhlers but i want to make different contents
23:43 FabianEhlers how can i do that?
23:44 void MGadAllah: drupal is oriented on community sites. typo3 is orieted on big corporative portals.
23:45 MGadAllah void: but typo3 can include a forum and some social aspects ... isn't it!?
23:46 void MGadAllah: yes. it may. but the cost is different.
23:46 MGadAllah void: You mean the coder cost
23:47 void FabianEhlers: not sure that are you want to do...
23:47 void FabianEhlers: will use have all (blank+green) parts different on each page?
23:47 FabianEhlers no
23:47 FabianEhlers its just this one sit
23:47 FabianEhlers *site
23:48 void MGadAllah: not only coder cost. perfomance cost and so on. drupal is much smaller (=faster) than typo3
23:48 FabianEhlers and i want to fill in each box and each green box different contents
23:48 FabianEhlers so that i could put in the white boxes news
23:48 FabianEhlers and in the green boxes pictures and adverts
23:49 MGadAllah void: what kind of forum could be integrated with typo3 or you will need to code a one for it?
23:49 void FabianEhlers: create a templavoila template, map the areas... what's the question?)
23:50 void MGadAllah: you may use mm_forum (it's a typo3 extension) or integrate some third-party forum, like phpbb.
23:50 FabianEhlers i made it with dreamweaver from a tutorial
23:50 void FabianEhlers: did you read "futuristic template building" document?
23:50 FabianEhlers no
23:51 FabianEhlers shall i read it?
23:51 void yes
23:51 FabianEhlers okay
23:51 FabianEhlers thank you:)

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