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00:22 tCzern hello
00:22 tCzern anyone here?
00:26 tCzern trying to create user account where a user can make changes to pages but IS NOT admin. I am missing something, there is no page tree after user logon, anyone?
00:27 tCzern der_soenke: hi, trying to create user account where a user can make changes to pages but IS NOT admin. I am missing something, there is no page tree after user logon, anyone?
00:31 der_soenke tCzern: you have to enable the modules for this user
00:32 der_soenke but i don't know much abaout usersettings
00:32 tCzern ok, I am in the User admin dialog
00:32 der_soenke maybe you also have to set the rights for your page
00:32 tCzern Modules are enabled already
00:33 tCzern something else is missing :-(
00:34 der_soenke maybe the rights
00:37 tCzern no, permissions granted
00:37 tCzern aarg
00:56 der_soenke tCzern: maybe you should write to the newsgroup
00:56 tCzern I need to figure this out tonight,don't have that time
00:57 der_soenke tCzern: whats your native language?
00:57 tCzern admin works of course, but I don't want to give this permission
00:57 tCzern German
00:57 tCzern you guessed?
08:41 NiFkE llo
08:42 NiFkE question: I have made a website on my localhost, how can I export my website now to my server so people can visit it
08:47 NiFkE ? :)
08:49 jbaptiste_j I've not done that yet but I have found a site explaining that, I'll see if I can find it
08:50 jbaptiste_j basically you can use a specific extension for that or dump the sql and copy the files
08:51 jbaptiste_j http://webempoweredchurch.com/no_cache/support/classes/upgradingypo3/?tx_wecknowledgebase_pi1[tt_news]=325 should help
08:54 NiFkE hm
09:00 fred^ hello
09:00 NiFkE tnx for the url jbaptiste_j
09:00 fred^ i wanted to shout good morning.. vietnam, as robin williams does in that movie, but yeah
09:01 fred^ i have my usergrup and fe users, i have my login box and i have my restricted page. it should be as simple as that, right?
09:01 fred^ but there happends nothing when i try to login
09:01 fred^ no errors or nothing
09:02 NiFkE btw new version of OPTIsend Print is available: http://www.optisend.com/en/download.html :)
09:05 fred^ ah, worked just fine with felogin installed
09:17 jbaptiste_j anyone has an opinion about mininews vs tt_news ?
09:18 NiFkE nop
09:19 jbaptiste_j seems mininews doesn't have news category :(
10:32 FloLeBlanc hi all
10:32 sorenmalling Hi
10:32 animan hi
10:33 animan does someone know what might cause tx_indexedsearch not to show ###RESULT_COUNT###? Currently it shows that all results are nr 1 :S
10:37 FloLeBlanc can anyone give me a hint on what to try next to let IE6 use the correct boxmodel for my page? I validated the page (no errors) and used the doctype recommended by selfhtml (<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">)
10:41 FloLeBlanc (apart from that I'd rather use XHTML :))
11:19 drindt iam searching a solution to turnoff the jscript generation because i want using the output in direct mail someone can help me please?
11:38 jbaptiste_j Floleblanc I have a link for you
11:38 jbaptiste_j http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html
11:54 Morpheus_1968 still tt_news problem
11:54 Morpheus_1968 i have url vars in de more link: tx_ttnews[tt_news]=4&tx_ttnews[backPid]=87
11:55 Morpheus_1968 after pasting the link or clicking the link the are disappeared in the address bar
11:56 Morpheus_1968 is this a tt_news setting problem or a typo3 template or other problem?
12:42 gehdan hey, i cannot find the templavoila extension in the extension manager in typo3 4.2.6. The search itself seems to be working, though. Any ideas what I'm missing here?
12:44 teppi|work gehdan, what do you mean? is it installed yet?
12:45 gehdan no, I'm trying to find and the import it
12:46 gehdan s/the/&n/
12:47 gehdan I'm searching vor "templavoila" and I'm getting: No matching extensions found.
12:48 gehdan I'm not able to find tt_news, either
12:50 nd_ gehdan: So what do you find then?
12:51 gehdan searching for news I get several results, e.g. content2news, mini news, news flexible, ...
12:52 gehdan I'm even getting news_author_rel and news_dam_con, both ot which have t_news in the title
12:53 nd_ What if you put in the ext-key directly? tt_news?
12:53 gehdan Same as with templavoila: No matching extensions found.
12:58 pmk65 gehdan: Have you enabled lookup of non-reviewed extensions in the EM?
12:58 gehdan yep, first thing I did
12:58 gehdan Can you tell me what mirror list url you have, please?
13:03 pmk65 I use the random mirror option.
13:07 gehdan and what mirror list are you using?
13:10 pmk65 http://pastebin.com/m7ae40823
13:12 gehdan thanks
13:12 gehdan same here
13:12 pmk65 you can always dl the ext directly from typo3.org, and then manually upload it to your server.
13:17 anteater_sa hello, was wondering if anyone could help, I have created a new rte tag using typoscript <button>
13:18 anteater_sa but am trying to find out if it is possible to get tag params using typoscript e.g. <button 1234>text</button>
13:18 anteater_sa like <link> does
13:20 anteater_sa or maybe, if someone knows where to find some documentation on RTE??
13:37 pmk65 anteater_sa: the translation of the parameters is done in the TS setup, in lib.parseFunc and lib.parseFunc_RTE
13:39 mquintus ahoy
13:42 anteater_sa pmk65: yes I am using parseFunc_RTE, I use "text.current = 1" to get the text between tags, but can't figure out how to get params?
13:45 pmk65 data = parameters : allParams
13:45 pmk65 that will return all the parameters of the tag.
13:45 anteater_sa ah, great, thanks
13:54 mquintus I've got a problem. When looking at files on my server through the typo3 backend (using tx_dam), a thumbnail image is generated. Now I look at a file, but thumbnail generation freezes. Followng process is started (and freezes):
13:54 mquintus /usr/bin/gm convert -sample 160x160 -colors 64 /var/webs/hmg/fileadmin/user_upload/Texte/4.4 HH Magazin/Hamburg01_2006.pdf\[0\] /var/webs/hmg/typo3temp/tmb_7d597a73dc.png
13:55 mquintus (shown by htop).
13:55 mquintus It makes no difference, whether I use ImageMagicks (/usr/bin/convert) oder GraphicMagicks (/usr/bin/gm convert).
13:55 mquintus The problem appears, when spaces are in the filename, but I have an other server, where the same configuration (I am trying to change the servers) works. It's no option to rename all files.
13:56 sorenmalling mquintus: Did you upload the files with the "File List" or through FTP?
14:00 mquintus sorenmalling: I copied the files and the database from the old server. I didn't copy the typo3temp directory, where the thumbnails are located.
14:01 mquintus sorenmalling: The meta informations from the databse still fit, they are the same on the old server.
14:02 mquintus sorenmalling: The command for generating the thumbnails seems to be broken, when spaces are in the file path.
14:03 mquintus sorenmalling: I can execute the command manually, when leaving \[0\] or writing [0] instead
14:03 sorenmalling My point was, when uploading with File List, TYPO3 automaticly strips out spaces in filenames, so this wouldn't have happened
14:04 sorenmalling The command should quote the filename when it got spaces, but i must admit that I've never seen this issue with ImageMagick
14:06 mquintus sorenmalling: So the files are obviously uploaded per FTP. The problem does also appear (on the new server) when using ImageMagick.
14:07 mquintus sorenmalling: There seems to be a doubled quotation.
14:07 mquintus sorenmalling: A working example is:
14:07 mquintus /usr/bin/gm convert -sample 160x160 -colors 64 '/var/webs/hmg/fileadmin/user_upload/Texte/4.4 HH Magazin/Hamburg03_2006.pdf[0]' /var/webs/hmg/typo3temp/tmb_bd3d9fffb9.png
14:15 sorenmalling mquintus: Make a bug report and maybe write a patch for it, if the quotation mark is the only problem, it should be a reather easy patch to write :)
14:16 mquintus sorenmalling: :) Do you know, in which typo3 library the command is generated/executed?
14:18 sorenmalling I think it's core related
14:23 mquintus sorenmalling: got it already. Thanks :)
14:24 sorenmalling np :)
14:30 hHippo I tried to isntall extensions wtdoorman, wt_Directory and tt_address. After installing wt_diractory I this every time I go to ny web page. I cant even enter the BE.
14:30 hHippo "TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "tt_address" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath)"
14:35 hHippo Is there anyway to fix this. Configurating the localconf.php orsomething?
14:36 pmk65 hHippo: use ftp and download typo3conf/localconf.php
14:37 pmk65 then remove all references to the ext you last installed (the one which caused the error)
14:37 pmk65 Then upload it again, and you should be able to access the BE again.
14:37 pmk65 Once the BE is working, install tt_address, and the plugin you just removed, and it should work.
14:50 hHippo It wont help. I still get the same message.
14:51 sorenmalling hHippo: make sure you removed it from the right extList array, there might be two
14:52 teppi|work hHippo, you have to delete the cached files under typo3conf/ as well
14:53 teppi|work they begin with : temp_CACHED
14:57 hHippo Thank you all! Now I get acces to BE and everything seems to be working.
14:57 mquintus sorenmalling: FYI - problem was "safe mode" in php. The thumbnails are generated using exec(); but exec escapes [ and ] in safe_mode. I have learned today: Thumbnail generation requires safe mode to be off.
15:09 linux hallo
15:11 kostik hello guys
15:14 kostik gives the possibility add parameter with typo script on a external link in the content?
15:14 maholtz <link http://typo3.org _target classname>text</link>?
15:17 kostik in content and ts? i want add some parameter, exampel http://blabla.de/index.php?username=bamm
15:19 kostik maholtz?
15:19 maholtz in TypoScript or in an content element? if contentelement - use external url, in typoscript use additionalParams
15:20 kostik in content, ok in content with external url and in ts with addi...Params , i try it now
15:29 ssc Hi, all
15:29 ssc I've looked at the Roadmap for TYPO3 v4.3 and it says that the ALPHA3 should have come 2 days ago .... Is this still acutal ??
15:29 ssc Link to the TYPO3 v4.3 Roadmap: http://forge.typo3.org/wiki/typo3v4-core/43_roadmap
15:31 kostik i am a newbi in typo3, so my typo3 runs with yaml, i create some navigationspoint and in one of them i want to add a external link with parameter like login-username. maybe have one a salution ?
15:38 maholtz @kostik: simplest solution is to use page-type "external url"
15:46 falkenberg Hi, I have installed the Media_Center extension and have trouble getting it to work. When trying to view the conten all I get is a blank page?
15:53 teppi|work falkenberg, sounds like a php-error .. you should enalbe error output
16:05 falkenberg teppilwork, I will tjeck it out. Could it be somthing else? I have another FLV compatible extension running and it works fine. It is also configured using flexforms. Maybe they can´r run at the same time?
16:09 tCzern hi
16:09 tCzern I added a user to a Typo3 site, it shows the full page tree but there are no form fields to make changes on each page. What am I missing here? Thanks!!
17:20 matchello Hi @all
17:21 matchello i have a big problem with rte integration in Extensions, i hope someone can help me :)
17:23 matchello when inserting images with RTE every extension i checked the pathes are always absolut to the image, but it is very important for me, that they are relativ (without the domain), does someone knows how i can solve this? when using rte in normal content elements this behavior doesn't appears
18:04 tomsdale where are the static templates located in typo3
18:05 drindt is there a extension for direct mail which is acting like a mailing archive?
18:07 tomsdale drindt: what are you trying to do?
18:08 drindt tomsdale: i have created tons of mailings with direct mail for example, and for further reference the user should come back to the website and can read in the archive from that mailings and read some mailing from january this year for example
18:09 tomsdale drindt: Funny, Im on the same thing right now :-) I planned on linking to a menu in ts which just lists the previous Mailings.
18:10 drindt tomsdale: ok so you probably a bit longer in that context than me, i consider writing a plugin what displays the mailings excluded from the database and link to them
18:11 drindt tomsdale: qry?
18:12 tomsdale qry? Actually I thought this to be as simple as possible. I just add a ts as CE into the newsletter which generates a menu with links to the previous newsletters.
18:12 tomsdale how many do you have?
18:13 drindt tomsdale: a lot :)
18:13 drindt tomsdale: customers request is that this will also be growing next months and so can be 3 issues per week
18:13 tomsdale ok, then this might be too simple for you. Although I think it should be possible to write a Archive menue based on dates just in typoscript
18:14 drindt tomsdale: you have an idea how to handly multilingual mailings?
18:15 tomsdale If you have that many newsletters may I ask how you do the text rendering. Do you use css_styled_content or how do you get it rendered table based?
18:21 tomsdale regarding multilanguage, I think it might work if you have 2 recipient lists and add &L=1 into the additional html parameters. That way you should be able to send the same newsletters in several languages.
18:22 drindt tomsdale: yes css_styled_content
18:22 tomsdale drindt: unfortunately direct mail doesn't seem to understand multilanguage.
18:23 drindt yes that i see also
18:23 tomsdale drindt: did you change css_styled_content - e.G. text with image floating will not show in most e-mail clients.
18:24 drindt tomsdale: thats designers stuff iam only for technical parts ;) they will try that and fix it :D
18:24 drindt tomsdale: but thanks for the information
18:25 tomsdale hehe :p, i keep working on my table based approach - its a pain!!!
20:08 neebly hi. i am searching for an extension to fullfill the meta tags automaticcly based on entered content. ist there a good one. i have googled a lot, but i only found older ones.
20:09 neebly special the keyword and description tag.
21:12 kraftb hi !
21:51 NiFkE in which configfile do I see my database name again, I'm moving my site to another server but the database has a predefined name and I need to change the name in the config
21:54 void NiFkE: typo3conf/localconf.php
21:54 void hi kraftb
21:54 NiFkE hmm than I must have looked over it
21:54 kraftb hi void !
21:55 void kraftb: you're famous typo3 dev. what is your opinion about flow3, typo3 v5 and a future of typo3? what is the area of your current projects (if it is not a secret)?
21:56 NiFkE jup thanks it works
21:56 kraftb ok ... which one first ? ;)
21:56 NiFkE looked over it
21:56 kraftb well ... about flow3, etc. I do not know that much.
21:56 void kraftb: hm.. first question at first)
21:56 kraftb I heard some talks by robert, and others ...
21:57 kraftb but at this time they were coding the API
21:57 kraftb So I never saw any part of TYPO3 v5 until now ...
21:57 kraftb about flow3 - i just noticed they make excessive use of objects and putting them into hierarchy
21:57 kraftb this can be either good or bad.
21:58 kraftb they also abstracted the whole API quite a lot, and talked about caching request, etc.
21:58 kraftb i fear it will become quite slow finally.
21:58 kraftb if you render a FE site with v4 - or hit a BE page - it takes quite some time. each single SQL request is relativel fast.
21:58 void kraftb: do you know how the content repository and database will live together?
21:59 kraftb but as there are about 50 sql request minimum per page hit i takes quite some time altogether.
21:59 kraftb so I fear using the new content repository, which add at least a little bit of overhead - it could take even longer than now.
21:59 kraftb but I may be wrong ;)
22:00 void kraftb: I've seen the CR schema and it's EAV. EAV = slowness...
22:00 kraftb content repository <--> database --> do not ask me this.
22:00 kraftb to be honest: I didn't have a look at it
22:00 void ok =)
22:01 kraftb about my current projects: I am finishing a already 3 months project very soon ... its about letting companies enter their company profile (it is about inland-navigation companies - transporting goods on the danube) ...
22:02 kraftb and those company profiles are available on the site, and get also rendered into a pdf once a day.
22:02 kraftb one of the major problems, is to generate the pdf.
22:02 kraftb i can't simply use html2pdf or similar, as it should be print quality ... etc.
22:02 void is this project based on typo3v4?
22:02 kraftb So i use "inkscape" to transform an SVG (output of TYPO3) to an pdf
22:02 kraftb yes
22:03 kraftb and other projects are my "kb_kickstarter" and "kb_display" extension ...
22:03 kraftb I'll put them on forge soon - then you can have a look at them.
22:03 kraftb it is more or less a complete rewrite of my kb_shop extension.
22:04 kraftb without the shop functionality :)
22:04 kraftb currently
22:04 void yeah... your kb_shop is rather an framework above SQL than shop =)
22:06 kraftb jup. and kb_kickstarter is a complete rewrite of this type of framework - using modern paradigms
22:07 kraftb more clear structure - easy to add new field types. etc.
22:07 kraftb but currently only in my own SVN
22:07 void good, i'll look at this when it will be available
22:07 kraftb you can give it a try by either checking it out of SVN, or getting a t3x from here:
22:08 kraftb https://svn.think-open.org/svn/kb_kickstarter/
22:08 kraftb guest / guest
22:09 kraftb http://think-open.org/kraftb/index/t3x/T3X_kb_kickstarter_2008-12-13.t3x
22:09 kraftb http://think-open.org/kraftb/index/t3x/T3X_kb_display_2008-12-13.t3x
22:09 kraftb I am going to put them on forge, and and alpha into TER soon.
22:09 kraftb the kickstarter already works very well - but not all types of fields are defined (for example "multiple checkboxes", "radio buttons", or simple "selects" are missing)
22:10 kraftb but "database relation", "input" and other very important field types already exist.
22:10 kraftb I add them as required by projects I have.
22:12 void does it have some kind of ORM?
22:20 kraftb hmm ....
22:20 kraftb What exactly do you mean ?
22:27 void kraftb: what i hate in typo3 ext. development is writing JOINs myself..
22:28 kraftb oh.
22:29 kraftb but the kickstarter is only about creating/definig the tables + TCA + ext_tables.php + ext_tables.sql + tca.php
22:29 kraftb so everything you need for having the tables up and running in T3
22:29 kraftb for displaying data in the FE you'll have to use "kb_display"
22:30 kraftb but compared to kb_shop it can not only display tables created with itself (or kb_kickstarter in this case) - but rather any table
22:30 kraftb so you can for example use kb_display, to create a list of tt_address records + detailView
22:30 kraftb and yes: it can do joins.
22:30 kraftb either straight joins also as left joins.
22:31 kraftb but currently it might not work in any case. altough mm-fields are respected, it could be it doesn't work in special circumstances.
22:31 kraftb but it is always possible, to write the "compare" part of two fields (i.e.: MM.uid_local=pages.uid AND ...) using a "custom compare XML"
22:32 kraftb BTW: i use smarty in both extensions now.
22:32 kraftb the tca.php and other things (locallang.xml) created by kb_kickstarter, are defines via smarty
22:32 kraftb so I have a smarty template, defining the "tca.php" ;)
22:32 kraftb ^ void
22:32 mib_0oumjy31 hi there
22:33 mib_0oumjy31 i am confused... i have a shorte question: What is the TCEforms and what is the flexform?
22:34 void kraftb: i see... but i cannot see where do you require() tx_smarty
22:34 kraftb it's not directly on the top of the class.
22:35 kraftb I know - this will probably break in v4.3 - where "class loading on demand" is implemented
22:35 kraftb but in my case, I'll also load the class "on demand"
22:35 kraftb but defined by application logic
22:36 void ah, ok..
22:41 mib_0oumjy31 Is nobody here to answer the question? I need some help please
22:41 void mib_0oumjy31: TCEforms is a forms for editing records, which you see at the backend
22:42 mib_0oumjy31 thanks and what is the flexform? I always thoght, the TCEforms is the Flexform
22:42 void mib_0oumjy31: flexform is a special type of field which holds inner data in the xml and may display itself in a neat tabbed form at the backend
22:42 mib_0oumjy31 ah, okay, thank you!
22:43 void np
22:50 void kraftb: about your svg->pdf convertor... inkscape is a huge program with 20 or more megabytes. do you just make system('inkspace --params') or use some wrapper library?
23:04 void hello Denyerec =)
23:05 Denyerec hey void
23:05 void Denyerec: how are you?
23:05 Denyerec depressed and penniless.
23:06 Denyerec and now my internet is acting up, so I can't even play games anymore
23:06 void why?
23:06 Denyerec getting massive packetloss and can't figure out why
23:07 void Denyerec: why depressed and penniless, i mean..
23:08 timdeluxe ...you could read a book ;D
23:08 Denyerec void: no work, no confidence
23:09 void Denyerec: bad :(
23:11 drindt Denyerec: you can act as freelancer?
23:11 Denyerec I am a freelancer, yes.
23:11 Denyerec freelance idiot, anyway :)
23:12 drindt Denyerec: qry?
23:12 kraftb no - i just use inkscape on the commandline
23:12 kraftb ^ void
23:12 Denyerec kraftb - I'd believe you if you said you used photoshop from the commandline ;)
23:12 drindt kraftb: a wonderful solution for svg to pdf is also openoffice, you can run a instance of them and use the unoconv tool
23:12 void kraftb: i think in case of some parallel requests it may it all the RAM
23:13 kraftb oh ... photoshop and commandline or not that bad ;)
23:13 kraftb hmm ... i opened the SVG in OO - and it did not look quite well.
23:13 drindt void: it does not
23:14 kraftb it has colored fields / bars till the border, and those were kept white in OO
23:14 kraftb in SVG they render well
23:14 kraftb sorry ... in inkscape I meant
23:14 kraftb I tought about using "batik" as converter - its an java app
23:15 kraftb and would probably require less software installed (except a 50 MB Java Runtime environment ;)
23:16 kraftb but I'll find that out tomorrow - right now I shot the website down and can't login anymore ... I do not have SSH access as the server is in the it - center of the customer. And they just gave the agency SSH access - not me.
23:16 kraftb http://www.blaue-seiten.at/
23:16 kraftb *damn*
23:16 Denyerec kraftb - any idea what could cause massive packetloss?
23:17 kraftb WLAN ?
23:17 kraftb or wired ?
23:17 void Denyerec: over-pinched cable?
23:17 kraftb where does the packet loss happen ? can you ping your router ? can you ping a server at your provider, etc....
23:18 kraftb when you ping and packets get lost it's clear where the problem occurs
23:19 kraftb but I'm off for today ... cu
23:19 Denyerec I can ping the world
23:19 Denyerec and the packetloss seems to happen all throughout the route
23:20 faebser hi
23:20 faebser i have a problem with a backend extension
23:21 faebser i can't give a normal user the permission to use the 2 backendmodules i have added
23:22 faebser i gave the usergroup the permission to modify all the databasetables
23:26 void faebser: didn't you check "only for admins" checkbox while creating the modules?
23:27 faebser void: i'm going to check it
23:28 faebser void: nope
23:28 faebser void: it's a submodule to the user-module
23:29 faebser void: i get the modules to show up in the user's menu but when i activate them it shows only the header with no content

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