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00:42 atmos4 cya guys, 'nough coding for today, err yesterday :-)
00:52 ries fireplace is on...
00:52 ries wife is warm..
00:52 ries and ready to watch a movie :)
01:08 Denyerec Just had to say, 4.3B2 is a MUCH nicer user experience than 4.0 :D
08:24 caid602 good morning everybody
08:25 fuchur to you too
08:25 fuchur hi everyone
08:25 fuchur gonna try caretaker today ...
08:25 caid602 I am looking for some help with typo3. I started setting up a website for my daughters preschool yesterday - my first contact with typo3
08:26 PiMB tricky, good luck ;]
08:27 PiMB what do you need to know?
08:27 caid602 I have installed mm_forum
08:27 caid602 in principle it runs, burt it is extremely slow when it comes to the threads
08:28 caid602 I found two errors in the general setup - "default user group" and "administrator gorup" are marked "invalid value" with the groups ID in brackets behind it
08:29 caid602 The user group is the general user group that I use for access to restriceted pages of the webpage
08:29 PiMB and it exists?
08:30 caid602 yes - I have also generated a new dummy user group (3) and entered its ID in tx_mmforum_config.ts
08:31 caid602 which makes the error message change to "invalid value ("3")" instead of "invalid value ("1")"
08:33 caid602 displaying the forum page works nicely and quick, but displaying a topic takes several minutes
08:34 caid602 Oh, and posting results in an error message when I use firefox, but it works with iexplorer (but still very slowly)
08:35 PiMB what kind of error message does it provide you with?
08:36 PiMB did you follow the manual?
08:37 PiMB there is a sidenote regarding the user groups.. (Notice that all groups have to be located on the user storage page which you specified one step before.)
08:37 caid602 One moment, I am trying to reproduce it. I think if have found a solution in a forum for the latter but haven't fixed it yet
08:37 caid602 neither do I know if the 3 problems are interconnected
08:38 caid602 "Not found" The requested URL /\/index.php was not found on this server.
08:39 caid602 I found this comment in a forum "hm, mit config.baseURL = http://localhost:8505/ im Template geht's... Problem also selbst gelöst"
08:39 caid602 Lets give it a try ;-)
08:41 PiMB are you running on localhost?
08:41 caid602 yes
08:42 caid602 for now I didn't want to put it on the server
08:42 caid602 should work at first
08:42 caid602 however, my port is 81
08:45 PiMB so change the port to 81 :)
08:46 caid602 there wasn't such entry
08:46 caid602 I have added it now.
08:46 caid602 btw, error meassage on php-log is: [12-Nov-2009 00:15:52] PHP Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 180 seconds exceeded in D:\Kindergarten\joweki\t3lib\class.t3lib_div.php on line 440
08:46 caid602 when I try to read the thread
08:47 PiMB that's not good.
08:47 PiMB it looks like it's looping on something.
08:47 PiMB you still have the invalid user id?
08:47 caid602 yes
08:48 caid602 which is surprising for since 1. it exists and 2. I can post with correct username at least using iexplorer
08:49 PiMB I see, and you've specified a general storage folder for the forum?
08:49 caid602 yes.
08:49 caid602 I will review the manual, I may have missed a point here
08:53 caid602 Hey cool, you pointed out one mistake. The PID for the usergroup must be the one where the general users are stored in my case
08:53 caid602 The setup didn't accept this page during installation
08:54 caid602 The error messges are eliminated now, but the forum is still damn slow
08:55 PiMB okay, that's one thing then. so 1 error down
08:56 PiMB 2 to go?
08:56 caid602 maybe just one, if the config.basURL fixed it
09:01 PiMB what should the baseurl fix
09:01 PiMB ?
09:01 caid602 honestly I don't know
09:02 caid602 If you speak german: http://www.typo3forum.net/forum/mm_forum/40803-send-preview-links-falsche-url.html
09:03 PiMB actually I do ;)
09:03 PiMB a bit..
09:04 PiMB I understand.
09:04 PiMB you don't speak german?
09:07 PiMB brb
09:08 caid602 I do (I am German)
09:08 caid602 what's your nationality?
09:08 caid602 dutch?
09:09 maholtz|WORK morning
09:09 caid602 good morning
09:09 maholtz|WORK do i need visa to join this channel?)
09:10 caid602 You can apply for a waiver ;-)
09:13 caid602 OK, I don't know why, but config.baseURL=localhost:81 foxed the problem that I couldn't post in firefox
09:14 caid602 One problem to go, the most annoying one: The forum is so damn slow
09:14 maholtz|WORK config.baseURL = localhost:81 does not look like a domain, just try http://127.0.0.1:81/ <- append slash!
09:14 maholtz|WORK which forum?
09:18 caid602 the forum I am trying to create with mm_forum extension
09:19 caid602 maholtz: Here is a brief desription of one just solved problem for which I have used the localhost:81 entry: http://www.typo3forum.net/forum/mm_forum/40803-send-preview-links-falsche-url.html
09:20 caid602 Oh I am a slow-thinker: your visa note was a reply to my "what is your nationality" - which was addressed to PiMB
09:20 caid602 I had asked him if he understands German before
09:27 caid602 maholtz|WORK: I have changed the entry from localhost to 127.0.0.1, which does not seem to alter anything. The forum works nicely until I try to read or post a topic - then It becomes damn slow
09:27 caid602 needs several minutes to display the page
09:29 maholtz|WORK everything else works fine?
09:29 maholtz|WORK perhaps a timeout?
09:29 maholtz|WORK if the forum checks if a email adress exists but your server does not allow fopen
09:30 caid602 in the phperror.log I find entries of this kind:
09:30 caid602 [12-Nov-2009 00:15:52] PHP Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 180 seconds exceeded in D:\Kindergarten\joweki\t3lib\class.t3lib_div.php on line 440
09:31 caid602 [12-Nov-2009 09:03:29] PHP Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 180 seconds exceeded in D:\Kindergarten\joweki\t3lib\class.t3lib_stdgraphic.php on line 2521
09:31 caid602 [12-Nov-2009 09:03:29] PHP Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 180 seconds exceeded in D:\Kindergarten\joweki\t3lib\class.t3lib_svbase.php on line 699
09:31 caid602 let me check your point converning the Email
09:31 maholtz|WORK give your php more than 180 seconds
09:34 caid602 maholtz|WORK: how can I increase the time for PHP?
09:35 maholtz|WORK php.ini
09:35 caid602 However, the problem is that is is so slow, nobody wants to wait >3mins to open a topic in a forum
09:38 iaj` hi there:)
09:38 iaj` how can I change the from adress (powermail) to a value not being entered in the form?
09:40 PiMB @caid602, yes dutch indeed ;)
09:40 PiMB straight from the heart of Rotterdam
09:40 PiMB and I agree that you shouldn't need more then 180 sec. for php to load a thread in mm_forum
09:42 maholtz|WORK @caid602: however, just let it work, after that you can look for the reason why it does not work
09:42 caid602 PiMB: I have never been to Rotterdam, but I love the Noord Holland reagion, maybe I should make it towards the south next time I visit the netherlands
09:43 caid602 maholtz|WORK: I am trying it other way round and decrease the time to 20 seconds to produce more messages in the log right now
09:43 PiMB good point maholtz. and enable the error log/display from php
09:43 PiMB @caid602, you should visit it. it's great! but kind off a building pit at the moment..
09:44 caid602 [12-Nov-2009 09:45:45] PHP Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 20 seconds exceeded in D:\Kindergarten\joweki\t3lib\class.t3lib_stdgraphic.php on line 2521
09:44 PiMB do you use the latest version of mm?
09:44 PiMB and what TYPO3 v?
09:45 caid602 yes, dowloaded yesterday mm_forum1.8.1
09:45 caid602 typo3 is 4.2.3
09:47 caid602 in this line is a reference to imagemagick
09:49 PiMB yeah true, but if you give it a 180 sec. it was a different error. so it's basically only the point where he is at after 20 sec.
09:52 caid602 ok
09:57 caid602 I gave it 720 seconds now and restarted typo3. Let's wait for the logs
10:00 caid602 hmm, the forum is working and no errors in the logs now. But it still takes 5 minutes to post a single message
10:01 PiMB you're not on a 64 k modem by any change ;]
10:02 caid602 localhost
10:02 PiMB true.
10:02 Prot0 thats pretty long
10:02 caid602 and no, im not running Vista emulated on a C64 ;-)
10:02 Prot0 lol
10:02 Prot0 was just about to ask
10:02 Prot0 what are you running?
10:03 caid602 win7-64
10:03 Prot0 oooh
10:03 Prot0 challenging :)
10:03 caid602 everything else runs pretty fast, even opening the forum main page comes in <1 second
10:04 PiMB then something is wrong in the forum itself so it seems :)
10:04 Prot0 maybe something is being hooked when posted
10:04 PiMB isn't there a debug function or something?
10:04 caid602 win7 is nice, I running it since beta1 last december
10:04 Prot0 i had this once with jp_pageteaser and direct_mail csv imports :)
10:04 caid602 If there is one I haven't found it yet
10:04 caid602 where could I possibly find it?
10:05 PiMB in the manual, but I don't think there is one. Not that I can find
10:05 PiMB should debug yourself
10:05 PiMB parse microtimes
10:05 PiMB or something
10:05 Prot0 that is the best way yes :)
10:06 caid602 ouch. Did I mention that I started with typo3 yesterday
10:07 Prot0 i dont recall :P
10:09 caid602 true, noted that when I entered the forum
10:09 PiMB hmm, that's tricky then
10:18 PiMB not sure how to do it then.
10:19 PiMB how's your php knowledge?
10:24 caid602 pretty low
10:25 Prot0 houston, we have a problem
10:25 Prot0 :]
10:35 PiMB we definetly do.
10:36 PiMB sorry caid602 but then it's pretty much not gonna work
10:39 caid602 Well I am trying to reinstall mm_Forum and recreate it
10:39 maholtz|WORK @caid602: i would bet on an network timeout, perhaps the forum tries to read an file somewhere?
10:39 maholtz|WORK is curl allowed and fopen works?
10:39 maholtz|WORK extension manager works fine?
10:55 caid602 maholtz|WORK: allow_url_fopen = On, allow_url_include = Off, php_curl is installed, extension manager works, except that it finds nothing online, I have to install the extensions by uploading .t3x files
10:55 dirk_ hi, i've set up a site with typo3 4.2.8, site works fine so i want to create a be-user and let him edit the content. i've created a user and a usergroup, i've moved all contet that should be editable by the user tu the new group und gave the user rights to access the pagetree. now if i su to the new user i see the pagetree, choose a page, get a listing of all its content, fine until now. but if i click on edit, typo loads the edtpage, the c
10:55 dirk_ lose / save / save&closebuttons alre there, but below, whee the editor should be is nothing, what can i do?
10:57 maholtz|WORK @caid602: well "works except that it finds nothing online" means "works not" for me;)
10:57 PiMB agree with maholtz.
10:57 maholtz|WORK so, your server isnt allowed to connect somewhere
10:58 PiMB does the update extension list give you a result of about 4150 current extensions?
10:58 maholtz|WORK so, perhaps you are able to check which connections are blocked
10:58 Prot0 dirk_: did you enable the fields for the editor?
10:58 maholtz|WORK and then you will probably see, why the forum is so slow
10:59 dirk_ Prot0, i've not seen such an option, where should is begin to search?
10:59 Prot0 dirk_: Have you set the access rights for the editors usergroup?
10:59 Prot0 (in the group settings)
11:01 dirk_ Prot0, i don't have an editor usergroup, there is only admin and the usergroup i've created
11:02 Prot0 do you have an editor user than?
11:02 Prot0 with a group assigned to it?
11:03 dirk_ ah is see, you meen a user who should edit content not an user named "editor"
11:03 Prot0 well yes but that can eb both hehe
11:03 dirk_ okay i've a user like that and a group like that, the user is owner of some pages
11:03 PiMB and are the right settings of the user set?
11:03 howard hallo list
11:03 caid602 PiMB: "check for extension updates" gives no results
11:04 PiMB hallo howard
11:04 howard How is going everybody?
11:04 howard lot of good spirit today?
11:04 PiMB caid602 then probably maholtz|WORK is right, it's not allowed
11:04 howard anyway....I have short question....
11:04 dirk_ the user is ownler of the pages and the owner is allowed to do everything. same with its group, and the user has accessrights to the tree
11:05 Prot0 yes but is the group where the user is in also capable of editing records and specific fields?
11:05 dirk_ i acctualy can click on edit in the pageview, und even save, but there is no edito
11:05 howard if I have ie 7 fe plugins in my extension, and for all of them I have in common few constants....how can I define that common constants and where.
11:05 dirk_ Prot0, yes, every page belongs to the user group
11:05 PiMB so then the editor has no rights to edit any fields. you have to set what it can edit.
11:05 rtfm hi
11:06 Prot0 dirk_: thats not what i mean
11:06 howard at the moment I am using ts file where I define constants for each FE
11:06 PiMB that is not wat Prot0 means, it is about what specific fields he could edit
11:06 Prot0 you need to edit the access rights for the group as well
11:06 Prot0 go to the globe on top of your tree
11:06 Prot0 and edit the usergroup
11:06 Prot0 :]
11:08 dirk_ both, the user and it's group are be-user(group) of the globe
11:09 PiMB okay, that's great!
11:09 PiMB now edit the group of the user
11:09 PiMB and enable the access list on the access list tab
11:10 PiMB there you can ctrl-click select which fields/tables/etc a user may or may not edit.
11:11 dirk_ i've done this before, i've set web web->page web->show(?) and web->list
11:13 dirk_ okay it is web->view, just switched to englich-be
11:15 caid602 OK, I have now imported the updates list with the extension manager: The extensions list has been updated and now contains 4153 extension entries.
11:16 PiMB so it works now?
11:17 caid602 yes, no clue why it didn't present data before
11:18 caid602 but the problem with the slow forum is still persistent
11:19 dirk_ no, same problem, i can go on and click on edit, i get the next dialog, close / save / save & close button, then link and open in new window. below: the questionmark, and the path. below should be the editor, but it isn't
11:19 dirk_ same problem with the "new content" button
11:19 caid602 I have reinstalled the mm_forum plugin, generated a new data-page and a new forum page and it is still not working. Windows firewall is completely turned off
11:19 PiMB very strange indeed caid602
11:20 PiMB not sure what to do about it without debugging or php knowledge, very sorry..
11:20 caid602 what would happen, if I installed typo3 4.3.0beta over my existing installation?
11:20 PiMB nothing really strange, you need to check reference and update DB etc. standard stuff.
11:21 caid602 is therer something like a php-debugger which shows you waht the php-server is actually doing?
11:21 PiMB but it's beta.. so don't know if you want to use it for live yet
11:24 dirk_ PiMB, i've a book about typo 4.2, there is a screenshoot of the edit be-user -> accessrights dialog, there is a checkbox like "include accesslists" (don't know the right term, it's a german book) the book says i'f have to check it to set accessrights, but i don't have this checkbox. i've only have an Admin(!) checkbox
11:25 Prot0 dirk_: are you checking this in the user or in the usergroup?
11:27 dirk_ do i have the same dialog for usergroups?
11:27 Prot0 no
11:27 Prot0 its different
11:28 Prot0 you can only set the accesslist in a be-usergroup
11:28 Prot0 not in a be-user
11:29 dirk_ i've not seen an editusergroup-dialog, only edit user-dialog
11:30 Prot0 :]
11:31 Prot0 well you cant set the accesslist in the user so..
11:31 dirk_ i see, under access -> useroverview only admin is listed
11:31 dirk_ where is the be-usergroup-edit dialog?
11:32 PiMB under the globe in the tree, you have the users and usergroups..
11:32 PiMB edit the usergroup to get the accesslist checkbox
11:34 howard I have short question....
11:34 howard if I have ie 7 fe plugins in my extension, and for all of them I have in common few constants....how can I define that common constants and where.
11:34 howard at the moment I am using ts file where I define constants for each FE
11:36 PiMB you need to set it per extension or set constants and change the setup for your extension to use the global constants
11:36 PiMB I have a problem with fe_login in IE8, the session is almost instantly gone.. only IE8 and not even on every pc.
11:37 PiMB cookies are on and accepted, cache is totally empty.
11:37 PiMB i'm kinda blank here. anybody seen this?
11:38 PiMB brb
11:50 maholtz|WORK @piMB: yep
11:50 maholtz|WORK i see
11:54 marble Hello everybody, good morning!
11:56 Prot0 hello
11:56 marble How can change the
11:56 marble <meta name="generator" content="TYPO3 4.2 CMS" />
11:56 marble in the FE code into
11:56 marble <meta name="generator" content="TYPO3 CMS" />
11:56 marble ? I don't feel comfortable with the exact version #.
11:57 Prot0 erm
12:00 marble erm?
12:00 Prot0 ..
12:00 Prot0 im lookin m8
12:00 Prot0 slow down will ja
12:01 marble ah, ok
12:01 Prot0 you can disable it with the sourceopt extension
12:01 Prot0 but it does not change it
12:02 Prot0 as far as i can recal you can only remove it
12:03 marble i couldn't even find that
12:03 Prot0 :)
12:03 Prot0 sourceopt modifies the HTML that is outputted by TYPO3
12:03 Prot0 and it has an option to remove the generator tag
12:04 Prot0 all it does is a preg_replace over the HTML
12:05 marble i see. thanks!
12:32 caid602 Still the slow MM_Forum problem: I have now installed a debugger. It seems to hang after the message tx_mmforum_pi1[tid]=4
12:39 maholtz|WORK re
12:40 maholtz|WORK @caid602: are you able to track your network traffic?
12:40 maholtz|WORK so, check whats happens there
12:40 maholtz|WORK or check your logfiles apache / php / system
12:40 maholtz|WORK perhaps i am wrong, but i think its worth it
13:42 dokma caid602: you still here?
13:44 caid602 yes
13:45 caid602 maholtz|WORK: Sorry for the delay!
13:46 caid602 maholtz|WORK: sure I can track my network traffic. What could I look for?
13:47 caid602 maholtz|WORK: I have checked php and apache logs all the time
13:48 maholtz|WORK check if there are connections to another domain, f.e. typo3.org or sth. like that
13:48 maholtz|WORK or example.com or..
13:51 caid602 briefly checked this with netstat, haven't seen anything suspicious
13:51 caid602 I#ll be back in 20 Mins, picking up my daughter from preschool
13:51 maholtz|WORK may be i am wrong, so debug the code
14:15 denoelle hi all
14:18 Prot0 hello :]
14:20 sorenmalling Hi
14:31 caid602 back
15:10 MartinMai closing tags from elements mapped in Templavoila are missing, seems that since upgrade to 4.3
15:12 Prot0 i heared more problems coming by in combination with 4.3 and TV
15:13 MartinMai Prot0: ah ok, istthere somethgin I can search for ?
15:15 Prot0 just for your info i don't use TV
15:15 Prot0 hehe
15:15 Prot0 what beta are you using?
15:17 der_On hello. I'm just starting out with typo3s php-api and wanted to try something really simple: getting the url to a page within an included php-script. but I can't find a starting point that explains how the php-api of typo3 is structured. the api reference ain't that of a good use.
15:20 MartinMai Prot0: 4.3.0beta3
15:21 Prot0 did you try other versions too? ex. beta2?
15:21 MartinMai um no, will do
15:32 Prot0 are you following the english mailinglist btw? I saw some issues come by there, deleted them from my inbox though :x
15:35 f1shman hi
15:36 Prot0 hello
15:37 f1shman i have a meta navigation with special = directory, which just displays some links in a system folder! but if i add a new base url, and klick on a link in the meta navigation, it just displays the homepage...
15:51 Prot0 is the filepath that is generated right than?
15:55 Prot0 nay regular powermail users here?
15:56 Prot0 maybe a better question: If one would create a form, that sends a form to an e-mail and stores the form data into the database. In what order would you do this:
15:56 Prot0 First e-mail, than store in DB
15:56 Prot0 or
15:56 Prot0 First DB store, than e-mail?
16:35 MartinMai Prot0: seems to be the same templavoila problem on 4.3 beta2
16:48 f1shman how can i tell typo3 to render anchors like name=something and not id=
16:49 phil1 it is defined in tt_content, so you can override it any way you like
16:51 MartinMai how can I access the repos at forge.typo3.org via svn ?
16:52 f1shman thx, i got it!
16:53 f1shman any idea how about to change the css rendering, i want to send a newsletter with direct mail, and it would be nice if the text with image would be rendered oldschool in tables.?
16:59 f1shman or how to float an image with css in a newsletter...
17:01 MartinMai ok after login it say msg NickServ identify <password>.
17:02 MartinMai um I mean https://svn/typo3.org/TYPO3v4/Extensions...
18:18 anteatersa fishman: you shouldn't be using css floats in newsletter, causes problems in new outlook
19:52 betzi Hi
19:54 betzi After i clicked the Upload Button to import an extension, i get a "blank screen" (backgroundcolor is grey, not white) but the left list is still there and extension hasn't been installed... whats the matter with my typo3 isntallation?
19:55 ries betzi: check the php error log
19:56 betzi ries, i got no access to unix error logs.
19:58 ries betzi: then it's hard to find out what's really going on
19:59 ries one thing you can try is to tirn display_errors on (to 2 I believe) in the install tool
20:04 betzi mhm, not workin, no errors are displayed. which logs are important?
20:05 betzi or can i finf out with phpinfo(); ?
20:36 ries betzi: then your server must be blocing that change
20:37 ries or there is no error and something else is going on
21:27 iamKira hi there
21:28 iamKira anyone got a llink to an example of irc chat mapping? between people etc...?
21:40 ries iamKira: you mean a program that can show you the links between people?
22:30 iamKira ries: yes
22:30 iamKira i think i have seen a webpage
22:30 iamKira in the past
22:30 ries iamKira: II THINK SOMEBODY ON TEH CHANNEL DID IT HERE...
22:31 iamKira with link between people talking here
22:31 Conic can someone have a look at this: http://a.imagehost.org/0551/TYPO3_Project_TYPO3_4_2_10_1258061287938.jpg
22:32 Conic i inserted a edit icon at the end, and now it's shown in a second line
22:32 Conic but it should just show at the end of the first line
22:32 Conic i used the same html code as the other buttons
22:34 Conic does someone have an idea why this starts a new row?
22:38 Conic i just changed the sorting of the array containing the buttons: always the last icon starts a new row, so the row seems to have a fixed width
22:45 decoder hello
22:45 decoder I have the following problem: we have shortcutIcon set in our template, with a relative path
22:46 decoder but on the site, an absolute URL is rendered in that field
22:46 decoder with http:// .. even if I go to https:// which is not really good
22:46 decoder and I cant find the reason why there is an absolute URL for the favicon everywhere
22:46 decoder any hints?

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