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09:24 chaser hi, does anyone have experience with tt_news rss feeds?
09:25 chaser until now I always needed one feed, but now I need two or more separate feeds and haven't quite figured how to do it
09:27 marcuslind Morning.
09:27 marcuslind :)
09:29 maholtz|WORK morning
09:29 maholtz|WORK @chaser: you can define categories via typoscript
09:30 chaser maholtz|WORK: thanks, I'll have a look
09:40 chaser maholtz|WORK: problem is that I have two separate storage folders for the two types of news, they're not categorized
09:42 maholtz|WORK but you can define where tt_news should use the news from, so use that for separation
09:43 chaser maholtz|WORK: yeah, currently i have "xmlnews { 10.pid_list = 39 ... }" but I would need to include another id
09:44 bitcrusher hi guys
09:46 maholtz|WORK 10.pid_list = 39,20 ?
09:46 chaser maholtz|WORK: yeah, just tried that, it gives me a feed with news from both sources, now I must separate them somehow
09:48 chaser maholtz|WORK: at first I thought about creating two separate feeds on two separate links, but I don't know if it's possible, since url?type=100 defines xml format, not a separate feed, if you get me
09:49 maholtz|WORK you can define type 101 too, you could add a parameter &cat=1 / cat=2, you could use different pages to separate them
09:51 bluespuke hello
09:52 chaser maholtz|WORK: yeah, 101 is and can be defined, but how do I tell typo which source to use regarding the type? i tried "xmlnews { typeNum = 100 ...}" and "xmlnews2 { typeNum = 101 ....}" but the last config just overrides the first one
09:53 chaser maholtz|WORK: paramaters are a good idea, but how would I use the parameter in typoscript?
09:55 maholtz|WORK @chaser: xmlnews2 < xmlnews
09:55 maholtz|WORK xmlnews2.typeNum = 101
09:55 maholtz|WORK xmlnews2.10...list = whatever
09:55 maholtz|WORK @chaser: start learning typoscript http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Ts45min
09:56 chaser thanks :)
09:59 bluespuke i've a problem with realurl: http://pastebin.com/m1998f730
09:59 Denjerek lo nd :)
10:00 bitcrusher bluespuke: whats the problem?
10:01 bitcrusher if its not too much outside the parameters of a normal realurl, maybe i can help
10:01 bluespuke i have a problem with the speaking url, in a second page (on the same installation)
10:02 bluespuke check the pastebin i posted (http://pastebin.com/m1998f730) it should be clear
10:04 bitcrusher so it makes the realurl, but does not respect the hierarchical structure of the menus/pages?
10:10 bluespuke exactly
10:10 bluespuke but i don't get why... alias and speaking path segment are well defined :s
10:34 fuchur hi
12:49 kotelette Hi all! I want to create a new content type for a site (like text with linked button). Could it be that there's no need to create an extension but do this by templating?
12:51 Tsoots i know it's possible if you're using templavoila
12:51 Tsoots with flexible content element (fce)
12:51 kotelette hmm, i'm not using templavoila :-(
13:02 bitcrusher bluespuke|work: you still there?
13:02 bluespuke bitcrusher: yes
13:03 bitcrusher sorry i was just afk
13:03 bluespuke i found an interesting article about my problem
13:04 bitcrusher when i use realurl, i always also install realurlmanagement and danp_realurlconfigurator
13:05 bitcrusher the danp_realurlconfigurator extension make the whole setup of realurl a breeze
13:05 bitcrusher ok, so have you had any progress?
13:10 wolfeySI hello i wonder why some javascript wont execute when included on typo3 site in some place
13:10 wolfeySI on blank .html it works without problem
13:15 maholtz|WORK @wolfeySI: there are some frameworks which does not work together - prototype and mootools f.e.
13:15 typo3admin hello, can somebody speak german here?
13:16 typo3admin if no, my question on english
13:16 bitcrusher typo3admin: sorry, only when I'm drunk, and then its not pretty ;)
13:16 typo3admin hehe^^
13:17 xaver typo3admin: why?
13:17 typo3admin ok, my problem: RTE default: xhtml 1.0 - but i need HTML4.01, can I change the Doctype für the Translating by the RTE
13:18 typo3admin (für => for)
13:20 wolfeySI maholtz well traditional way of 'simple ajax copy paste' doesnt work
13:20 wolfeySI maholtz so what would work?
13:20 bluespuke bitcrusher: yes, i've some progresses
13:21 xaver typo3admin: query
13:21 typo3admin @xaver, please what you mean?
13:22 xaver typo3admin: schau in query || look into the query
13:22 xaver typo3admin: pn /pm
13:22 typo3admin oh...^^
13:23 bitcrusher bluespuke: how did you set up the realurl config? did you use danp_realurlconfigrator or did you input it yourself?
13:23 bluespuke copy/paste my default config xD
13:30 bitcrusher bluespuke: i suggest you backup your config, install danp and let it make the config for you at first, and see if that works and then go on from there and make the custom changes you want to make to it
13:34 kraftb hello !
13:37 Denjerek hallo!
13:41 kotelette does anyone where to find documentation if you add a new extension as 'new content type'? i added three fields to tt_content, but in the backend editor i can't see one of them if i add my new content type...
14:19 bluespuke damn, now i get something very very strange with realurl :s
14:19 bluespuke i get redirected to the same page... so the browser loads and loads...
14:20 maholtz|WORK @kotelette: check TCA
14:20 wolfeySI bluespuke: check .htaccess
14:20 wolfeySI for real directories you need to stop rewriting
14:20 kotelette great thank you
14:20 wolfeySI such as
14:20 wolfeySI RewriteRule ^typo3$ - [L]
14:20 wolfeySI meaning if URL has typo3 in it, stop rewriting process
14:21 wolfeySI same for where you have .css and such
14:22 bluespuke it's the default realurl htaccess :s
14:22 wolfeySI ok
14:25 bluespuke hmmmm, whan i go to domain/?id=1 it works, but domain/ redirect me round and round
14:25 bluespuke tx_realurl_enable = 0 and an empty .htaccess...
14:26 wolfeySI ok then probably it isnt .htaccesss problem :P
14:26 bluespuke so what could it be?
14:27 bluespuke hmmm maybe i should reinstall realurl and the config thing
14:28 wolfeySI i have very little experience with RealURL. i did such rewriting with my own code though... now typo3 has LOTS of options and i'm a bit ..lost :)
14:28 wolfeySI i'm quite happy when it works :)
14:29 wolfeySI i got realurl working after trying a few localconf.php examples on net :)
14:29 wolfeySI then admin didnt work for content, so i changed typo3 source to not crash at NULL :)
14:29 wolfeySI and instead take it as empty array, as it should be (as i read online) :)
15:19 kotelette damn i added this lines to my own content type extension but nothing chnages:
15:19 kotelette $TCA['tt_content']['types']['list']['subtypes_addlist'][$_EXTKEY.'_pi1']='tx_cabtextwithbutton_text;;;;1-1-1';
15:19 kotelette $TCA['tt_content']['types']['list']['subtypes_excludelist'][$_EXTKEY.'_pi1']='';
15:20 kotelette shouldn't at least the option field show up?
15:44 webonaut I saw a blogpost or a article some months ago about how regular typo3 users (nonadmin) can create or copy backend users with some extension in the backend... I need this now but can not find the article anymore :-(
15:59 kotelette ok i at least managed to show the fields of my own content element
15:59 kotelette but can anyone tell me what this syntax is: tx_cabtextwithbutton_text;;;;1-1-1
16:00 kotelette (in the showitem array of my ctype...)
16:05 ries kotelette: O knew, but don't know that doc anymore...
16:06 kotelette hehe i can find spreaded information in the core api but not how to enable the rte for on field and usage of tabs etc
16:07 kotelette ah think i found it
16:07 kotelette it is in the core api
16:07 kotelette at the end of the tca ref .-X
16:26 kotelette damn, that's compley but it worked ;-)
16:36 marcuslind Does anyone have the slightest idea of how I get access to extension files from the backend?
16:37 marcuslind Since they are not located in the fileadmin-directory
16:37 marcuslind Do I have to connect to the webserver?
16:38 maholtz|WORK @marcuslind: without ftp? go to extension manager, select your extension, choose edit file
16:38 maholtz|WORK there is also an extension quickexplorer, but i never understood when it is usefull
16:39 marcuslind Oh easy as that :D
16:39 marcuslind haha, that wasnt hard.
16:39 marcuslind thanks.
16:47 marcuslind maholtz|WORK: I got a second problem, when trying to edit I get the message [SAVING IS DISABLED ...] It seems like I have to access the config_defaut.php file and edit the 'noEdit=>0' line
16:47 marcuslind I dont have access to the webbserver though
16:47 marcuslind This file is located in the t3lib directory
16:48 m4rtijn|lap hi all
16:48 maholtz|WORK marcuslind: you can set that via installtool
16:48 maholtz|WORK @m4rtijn: hi
16:49 m4rtijn|lap hey maholz, how are you?
16:49 marcuslind And I can't copy a ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL file there without access to the webservern can I?
16:49 m4rtijn|lap marcuslind: via ftp
16:49 fuchur marcuslind that won't make sense :D
16:49 fuchur it's a _security_ feature
16:49 marcuslind haha yeah I know
16:49 marcuslind but I could change ext files etc
16:50 fuchur so what sense would it make if you could ship around that?
16:50 fuchur hi :)
16:50 marcuslind just wondering if you could change other files as an admin user
16:50 marcuslind from the backend
16:50 fuchur yep you can :)
16:50 marcuslind I mean the t3lib/config_default.php
16:51 Denjerek hey fuchur, m4rtijn
16:51 m4rtijn|lap hey Denjerek
16:52 Denjerek don't suppose any of you chaps know why a CD command issued in PHP backticks woudln't be working ?
16:52 Denjerek Some kind of basedir or safemode limitation perhaps ?
16:52 fuchur mh
16:52 m4rtijn|lap Denjerek: dont you have to escape them?
16:52 fuchur hint: quixplorer
16:52 fuchur :)
16:53 m4rtijn|lap escape the backslash maybe?
16:53 m4rtijn|lap hmm.. its a forward slash
16:56 m4rtijn hmm
17:31 vivianallamas hi
17:33 vivianallamas how this thing works?
17:45 fuchur ;)
18:00 kotelette i got one more: is it possible with gifbuilder to get the size of a text image (to be layed over a bg image) to set the size of the bg image?
18:01 StaffanE kotelette: should be... but I have no clue how
18:02 Denjerek m4rtijn, I discovered why
18:02 Denjerek each time you issue a shell_exec it's done to a new shell
18:02 Denjerek so if you want to CD and perform some operation, it has to be done in one command.
18:02 Denjerek obvious when you think about it :/
18:06 kotelette @StaffanE: yeah my problem is that i build the bg image before the text :-(
20:12 HardPhuck guys, i need some help
20:12 HardPhuck forgot how to linkWrap an image
20:12 HardPhuck to only anchor to full size
20:12 HardPhuck no javascript
20:14 kraftb hey !
20:14 kraftb I have an idea ...
20:14 kraftb it would greatly enhance the "feeling" of TYPO3.
20:14 kraftb I opt for putting sound effects into the BE
20:14 HardPhuck lol
20:15 HardPhuck let's do that
20:15 kraftb think of a cool "zaphuu" if you drag&drop a page
20:15 kraftb or a clear "diiing" if you save an element
20:15 HardPhuck so for every click BE would say 'you are retarded'
20:15 HardPhuck :)
20:15 kraftb or a deep "trtrtrtrtr" if you make an error
20:15 kraftb of course this has to get made skinable ... eh audible
20:17 HardPhuck where did you get this great idea?
21:11 kraftb just came to my mind ...
21:11 kraftb I am listening to music while setting up a site
21:11 kraftb (I can't listen to music while coding - at least not when I have to think a lot)
21:11 kraftb but there are always an interesting portfolio of sounds in those tracks
21:12 kraftb And I just tought putting some sounds into TYPO3 would make the whole thing a little more fun ;)
21:12 kraftb but that's just a joke - I do not thing it would really make any sense to have the save-button queaking
21:20 StaffanE kraftb: audible feedback is not that stupid - one of the reasons keyboards stil klicks a bit
21:58 kraftb yes. that's right. for the keyboard the clicks are really important. And also the "type" feeling. If you ever used a foil-keyboard, you know the difference between really pressing a button and hearing a click, or just pressing on a specific area of a foil
21:58 kraftb ^ StaffanE
21:58 kraftb I mean audible feedback was rather just a joke - do you really think this might make sense?
22:31 HardPhuck hmm this is driving me nuts
22:32 HardPhuck how can i completely remove the ajax for displaying tt_news images
22:32 HardPhuck i still get index.php?eID=tx_ ....
22:32 HardPhuck i just want the link to the picture
22:38 HardPhuck like <img src="typo3temp/pics/4234234.jpg" .>
22:51 HardPhuck noone?
23:14 HardPhuck it seems this is related to image object
23:15 fuchur ok, i officially hate TS
23:15 fuchur hi HardPhuck by the way
23:15 HardPhuck hey :)
23:15 HardPhuck everybody hates TS :)
23:16 fuchur mh ... not this kind of hate-love
23:16 fuchur i really hate(!!) ist
23:16 fuchur *it
23:16 fuchur ^^
23:16 HardPhuck i do too :)
23:17 Mambo Hi everyone!
23:17 fuchur man, i'm sittin in front of a 1.600 line TS and don't have a clue at all
23:17 Mambo Sorry to interrupt your tirade.
23:17 HardPhuck fuchur: lol
23:18 HardPhuck i'm searching on how to make image link not to use the new windows
23:18 fuchur hi Mambo
23:18 HardPhuck it's a pain
23:18 Mambo I am a bit of a newbie and I have a questi9on. Anyone in the mood to entertain my probably stupid questions for a bit.
23:18 fuchur Mambo just ask
23:18 fuchur and we will see :)
23:19 Mambo Well I found this lovely template of WEC, I have changed it a bit and have imported it into TV. So far, so good.
23:19 fuchur HardPhuck i have three problems :) a) i don't exactly know, what the customer wants the script to do, b) the creator avoided any type of comments c) the task has to be done by tomorrow
23:19 fuchur :)
23:19 HardPhuck hahah i guess you're up for a long night :)
23:19 Mambo But then I realized that the menus dont work.
23:20 Mambo On closer examination I realized that the menu uses ADxMenu, which uses nested lists for the menu.
23:20 HardPhuck what's ADxMenu?
23:20 fuchur HardPhuck i guess so
23:20 fuchur there are a lot of things in the TS, I don't even know
23:20 HardPhuck Mambo, where do you have menu defined?
23:21 fuchur think i have to read hole TSref and TSConfig first
23:21 fuchur gonna print that out
23:21 fuchur :D
23:21 HardPhuck optimist :)
23:21 Mambo I have worked through modern Template building and Futuristic TB, but it doesn't show how to nest ULs for a menu.
23:21 fuchur zaehler.cObject.data = register:zaehler
23:21 fuchur o_O
23:21 fuchur i never saw register in TS before ...
23:21 HardPhuck register just sets variables
23:22 HardPhuck it's like writing 'var' in php
23:22 Mambo ADxMenu seems to be a Js lib that takes lists and daplays them as drop down menus
23:22 fuchur mh ... TS has vars? ^^
23:22 HardPhuck :)
23:22 fuchur if.isGreaterThan.cObject=TEXT and "if" o_O
23:22 fuchur damn it ...
23:22 HardPhuck yea, TS is devil
23:23 HardPhuck it sucks because most of it isn't even used
23:23 fuchur man i'm that happy to normally avoid TS :D
23:23 fuchur and just coding extensions
23:23 fuchur i would go crazy if i had to do this every day long
23:23 HardPhuck http://www.slideshare.net/zdavis/how-i-stopped-worrying-and-learned-to-love-typoscript
23:23 HardPhuck something for you :)
23:23 fuchur thx ;)
23:24 Mambo HardPhuck : I have a template file and some CSS that defines the menus. On top I have copied some TS for the template setup.
23:25 Mambo HardPhuck : actually level 1 menu is displayed correctly, but not the level 2 + menus
23:25 HardPhuck and how are the menus 'not working' ?
23:25 HardPhuck ah right
23:26 HardPhuck are those dropdowns as in javascript?
23:26 HardPhuck or regular drop downs that open on new page
23:26 Mambo The level 2 + are supposed to drop down and right. I guess the js parses the html or css and does that job, but I haven't quite understood that code yet.
23:27 Mambo What I need is some TS that allowes me to generate nested ul/li lists that represent the menu from Typo3
23:27 HardPhuck okay, what you should do is remove the javascript alltogether and learn how to do normal menus
23:28 Mambo LOL! thanks a lot! ;) Very sensible answer, but I like the look of the damn thing ...
23:28 fuchur o_O
23:28 fuchur if.isGreaterThan.cObject=TEXT weird!
23:29 fuchur I'm really all confused :D
23:29 HardPhuck http://pastebin.com/d1cf458c9
23:29 HardPhuck Mambo this is a menu
23:29 HardPhuck http://www.bf.uni-lj.si/
23:29 HardPhuck which is on this site, on the top
23:30 Mambo hmm, very short. good. I'll look into it.
23:30 HardPhuck the point is in expAll = 1 if you use javascript
23:31 HardPhuck that children are expanded at all times
23:31 HardPhuck person responsible for support.typo3.org must be a retard or something
23:32 Mambo HardPhuck what do you mean with "the point is in expAll = 1 if you use javascript"?
23:33 HardPhuck if you don't use expAll second level items are only visible on their parent page
23:33 HardPhuck if you use it, all children of the level in question are displayed
23:36 flurl support.typo3.org is not a recommendation to use typo3...
23:37 HardPhuck say you have two pages, products and services, and both have child pages. if you use expAll, you will see all services and products in menu no matter where you click
23:37 HardPhuck if you don't have expAll you will only see services when on services page ...

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