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09:29 kotelette Hi all, maybe someone got a hint for me:
09:29 kotelette we use the staticpub extension and all looks fine except src paths for flash content objects are not set correct
09:30 kotelette they still look like 'uploads/tx_rbflashobject/intromovie_01.swf
09:31 JD-Robbs Can I set naw_securedl to secure ALL filetypes? At the moment I have to enter it like "xls|doc|docx|xlsy|zip|rar" etc...
09:38 milpoer Mornings.. I'm about to start using ajax, but to be honest i'm not that good at javascript and have never tried programming with ajax before, someone that have a good link for introduction to ajax and typo3 ? I have read the generel documentaiton on prototypes website, recomende by a friend.. by need some more typo3 specific..
09:48 fuchur mornin has brooooooken ... *sing*
09:52 Denjerek hey fuchur
09:53 fuchur ey !
09:54 BejjWrk :-)
09:54 fuchur :p
09:54 iaj` hey there.. is there any way to edit an rte field in an external editor?
10:00 Denjerek Ouch. Lady Gaga... :S
10:02 kotelette I've seen pictures where she(?) does not look like a lady :-D
10:02 BejjWrk Denjerek: well she wanna take a ride on your disco stick ^^
10:03 BejjWrk Ive heard rumours, Im not curious enough to even investigate
10:03 paese hi all
10:05 fuchur ^^
10:05 kotelette yeah i definitly do not want to investigate that by myself
10:05 fuchur lol
10:05 fuchur if the rumors are wrong, it could be worth it
10:09 kotelette btw has anyone used staticpub and noticed that paths in javascript are not set correctly
10:09 kotelette i have that problem with flash content and the path still points to 'uploads/...'
10:09 kotelette even if the site is in subfolders
10:10 BejjWrk im happily married, so i couldnt care less (about lady gaga)
10:13 JD-Robbs Is this #LadyGaga? :D
10:15 paese damn, brainf**ing myself.. it's simple but i dont get it. how to write the wrappings in a HMENU to get level2 INTO level 1 (notable that both should be div's .. so div.second shoult be inside div.first)
10:40 paese how do i wrap a 2nd-level tmenu into the same div the 1st-level gmenu is ?
10:41 pmk65 paese: wrapItemAndSub
10:41 paese pmk65 won't work for gmenu..
10:42 pmk65 have you tried? (There's several properties missing in the TSRef manual, so there might be a chance it works)
10:43 pmk65 I personally hate GMENUs, and render all my menus as TMENUs. As you can do the same Gifbuilder stuff with TMENU.
10:43 paese i tried but nothing happened.. and i read in a forum about this
10:43 paese i also hate gmenus but the customer really _want_ one because of his font.. -.-
10:44 pmk65 then convert your menu to TMENU, and render the images using beforeImg or afterImg. then you get the same result in FE.
10:45 iaj` hm, may I ask how you guys would accomplish the task to have an input field and have automatically sent an file attached to an email going to that input field's value
10:46 paese pmk65 so you'Re saying i should do an empty tmenu and generate images into that menu ? ^ ^
10:46 pmk65 paese: something like this -> http://paste.phlogi.net/-56c794e5c1/
10:47 paese oh, okay
10:47 paese will try this, thx
10:47 pmk65 that's some TS from one of my sites, which generates a nested (UL/LI) graphic TMENU.
10:48 paese okay
10:48 pmk65 iaj`: create a standard TYPO3 mailform with an upload field..
10:49 paese so with wrapItemAndSub (never used before) i get my submenu into the same element where my main menu point is? (imagine a horizontal 1st-lvl menu and the second one is vertical, but aligned right under the first menu point. no *_LAYER, just statical)
10:50 pmk65 I always use wrapItemAndSub for my menus as they are made as nested UL/LI. Then I get the submenus inside the LI items.
10:50 paese ok thx
11:01 paese that's no fun.. even copy paste of your menu won't work :-/ ..
11:01 paese but generating images works usually
11:01 iaj` pmk65, thank yous.
11:10 iaj` pmk65, hmm where can I find some documentation on that one?
11:12 iaj` pmk65, we are talking about the 'mailform' extension, correct?
11:13 pmk65 iaj`: just the standard mailform. no ext..
11:13 pmk65 http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsref/4.2.1/view/1/8/#id4406208
11:15 iaj` mh, so I just use the basic 'form' then? am a bit irritated,sorry.
11:19 paese pmk65 works so far, but the beforeImg is not linked and the page title is displayed beneath as a normal link. how to get the image linked like a tmenu? ;)
11:20 iaj` pmk65, I dont have that 'formmail' field.. :/
11:21 FloLeBlanc hi all
11:22 paese iaj try mailformplus extension, it's worth a tray. and an ease to do forms
11:22 FloLeBlanc can I turn off templavoila for a part of the page tree? (I'd prefer to do directmail without it)
11:22 iaj` paese, yeah well I tried mailformplus and its working ok so far.. just I cant add an attachment to mails..
11:22 paese FloLeBlank just create an extension template on that page and set the root flag for it
11:23 FloLeBlanc ah right.. so I can use automaketemplate and templavoila on one page and just include the TS I need for the according subtree?
11:23 iaj` paese, plugin.tx_thmailformplus_pi1.default.email_attachment=/path/
11:24 pmk65 iaj`: the FORM objec is standard TYPO3. Just create a mailform with the required fields.
11:24 iaj` pmk65, sorry still I'm stuck, how should I create that mailform if I can't chose anything but form?
11:25 paese he means "form"
11:25 iaj` oh.. mhhh alright..
11:30 iaj` hm, but why does it say, put that into the bodytext field of a pagecontent record of the type "FORMMAIL"
11:36 FloLeBlanc could anyone give me an idea on what I do wrong: I made a 2nd template with templa voila the mapping is up to date, I go to a subtree and select page template structure "page2" but it still inserts the elements into page 1
11:39 iaj` pmk65, I used form, added the example:mailform as described at the page, but when I submit, nothing happens, page reloads with empty field and I don't get an email...
11:42 t3rob Hi all. Who would like to discuss external TypoScript template support for v5 with me _now_? 30 minutes max ... Just go to channel #t3px
11:43 FloLeBlanc what is external typoscript template support? :)
11:43 StaffanE Why is http://forge.typo3.org/wiki/typo3v4-core/43_roadmap refereeng to a beta1 date of january 7 2009 on 4.3b1?
11:44 StaffanE ah, know i understand the page. "was" refeers to the orginally planed date)
11:44 t3rob @FloLeBlanc in short: TypoScript templates residing in files, not in the Content Repository
11:56 HardPhuck guys anyone has a condition to switch xml declaration for IE browsers?
11:58 HardPhuck nevermind found it
12:00 kotelette I#ll ping my quesiton again ;-)
12:01 kotelette does anyone know how to make the staticpub edit paths correct for javascripts
12:01 kotelette in my case i have flash content and the src attribute still points to 'uploads...' even if the pubklished page is in a subpath...
12:16 snoy_ms hey all. i didn't find the problem... $content = $this->cObj->fileResource('EXT:res/pi1_template.html'); This gives me an empty string.
12:16 snoy_ms the file exist, and its not empty.
12:17 snoy_ms what iam doing wrong ?
12:17 snoy_ms fileResource gives a string back or ?
12:20 snoy_ms lol, didnt find the problem...ahah
12:24 snoy_ms ahhh i found the problem
12:25 snoy_ms $this->templateCode = ..... and not $this->$templateCode =
12:26 FloLeBlanc are there known problems with RealURL and direct_mail? my newsletter template is not set correctly any more
12:26 FloLeBlanc (I always get the base template instead of the NL template)
12:39 Judi Bonjour
12:42 FloLeBlanc nvm my question, was related to the domain entry
13:19 StaffanE updated http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=9973
13:19 StaffanE Is it correctly categorised?
13:27 fuchur did you find this behaviour in 4.3 or in the actual 4.2.x?
13:29 StaffanE fuchur: no clue - its our sandbox so I just updated to 4.3b1 without checking the backend before. Haven't used the sandbox for 2 years or so
13:38 pmk65 StaffanE: bugreports on bugs.typo3.orgs tends to be ignored unless you provide a patch and also post a comment on the core list.
13:39 StaffanE pmk65: I have sadly noticed that
13:39 StaffanE pmk65: there is to much focus on code in the typo3 project
13:40 pmk65 I gave up on bugreporting long ago. I only post bugreports on extensions, as ext authors are more wiling to fix bugs.
13:41 StaffanE pmk65: I agree
13:41 fuchur sad :(
13:41 pmk65 The core team is more interested in adding new features. And if you keep adding new features ontop of the old (non-fixed) bugs, you end up with more bugs.
13:41 fuchur i think the bugtracker does it's best to prevent bugs from being fixed
13:41 StaffanE pmk65: typo3 need lots more focus of cleaning up all unclosed bugs. A year of bug fixing
13:42 fuchur mh, 4.4 will be like that
13:42 fuchur no more new features just bug fixing
13:43 pmk65 On my view at bugs.typo3.org I have unfixed bugs I reported back in 2006..
13:43 pmk65 for TYPO3 v3.8.1, and the bugs are still present in the current version of TYPO3..
13:44 fuchur hr hr
13:44 Denjerek :/
13:44 StaffanE pmk65: the same for me - 3648 open bugs is a little bit to much
13:44 fuchur i'm not even able to filter open bugs without patch out of this fckn bugtracker
13:44 fuchur there are bugs "new" but have a patch already
13:44 fuchur and so on
13:45 fuchur confuding
13:45 pmk65 fuchur: most of the patches doesn't work on the current version of TYPO3, as they where made for older versions..
13:45 Denjerek Make sure you forward your thoughts to the people who run the bugtracker
13:45 StaffanE Denjerek: about to write a mail to the news lists
13:45 Denjerek It will of course only change if enough people complain.
13:45 Denjerek Good :D
13:45 pmk65 Denjerek: Tried that.
13:45 fuchur Denjerek i'm thinking about goging to the q&a in karlsruhe next month
13:46 Denjerek make sure they don't bundle you out of the room and taser you :)
13:46 fuchur hrh
13:46 Denjerek back after lunch
13:47 fuchur gh
13:49 zed_devil hi all
13:49 zed_devil how can i disable "autocomplete" for typo3 backend login
13:52 fuchur why did you activate it? ;)
13:52 fuchur just tell your browser not to autocomplete
13:53 StaffanE I suggest that bugs.typo3.org is closed down as soon as possible. As I watch the summary page I notice 3648 open bugs! In the core there is 1971 open bugs alone and 1202 resolved but unclosed bugs.
13:53 StaffanE As it is apparent that bugs.typo3 is not used and bugs reported thru that medium is not handled by the typo3 community. As bugs.typo3.org is a blackhole when it comes to bugs it's better to simply close it down!
13:53 StaffanE There is an unhealthy rush in the TYPO3 development team towards new functionality and gold plating. The community needs to change focus towards usablitity and bugfixing.
13:53 StaffanE What do you say about that to the dev list?
13:56 fuchur Don't know if the dev list is the right place
13:58 zed_devil @fuchur i dont mean the browser setting, i think the must be a way to disable these on the server. on my webserver for example there is no possiblitily to save the pw in firefox
13:58 StaffanE fuchur: went do dev and english
13:58 fuchur zed_devil jep there is a way, but just tell your firefox not to store the passwd and you're done
13:58 fuchur StaffanE cross posting is bad anyway
13:58 fuchur do you want to start two discussions?
13:59 StaffanE fuchur: crossposting is good if you want responses :-)
13:59 StaffanE fuchur: and i wants lots of attension
13:59 fuchur o_O
13:59 fuchur ok, so post it to all the lists on the server
14:02 StaffanE fuchur: nha, stay a little bit on topic at least
14:02 zed_devil @fuchur i dont want that any user who users the backend login can save his pw, so that nobody can use his machine to get in the typo3
14:04 fuchur zed_devil add autocomplete="off" to the <form> tag
14:05 fuchur StaffanE think i don't have to tell you that it will make no changes anyway :)
14:06 StaffanE fuchur: neither do I - maybe some core-dev will spend a hour or two closing bugs
14:06 fuchur *g*
14:06 fuchur optimist
14:07 StaffanE fuchur: if they just closed the bugs with the statement "won't fix" I would be satisfied
14:07 fuchur StaffanE somehow this is not, like things work
14:08 fuchur i feel bad with this also, but i think it's not neccassary to start the 10.000th discussion on the mailinglist :)
14:09 StaffanE fuchur: I follow the thunderbird project and they are all lot better when it comes to handling bugs. They close bugs and keep a close watch on them
14:09 fuchur so what?
14:10 StaffanE fuchur: the problem with the typo3 bugs is that there are too many of them now. If there had been kept under control the situation would be diffrent
14:10 fuchur this will happen in 4.4
14:12 StaffanE first ignorant answer recived - i'm not supprised
14:12 fuchur Benni planned to just fix bugs in 4.4 not introducing new features
14:12 fuchur rumors
14:12 fuchur StaffanE ok ... what did you expect?
14:12 StaffanE fuchur: not much :-)
14:20 fuchur ok
14:26 StaffanE I only think the summary pages "by date" show how bad the bugtracker works. Growth of number of bugs for all periods
14:30 StaffanE helly skurfuerst
14:31 skurfuerst hey StaffanE
14:32 StaffanE i'm watching a podcast with you
14:36 pmk65 StaffanE: the biggest problem is that a lot of the bugs is caused by older unfixed bugs. So to make new TYPO3 features work, the code calls old buggy functions and create some kind of workaround. Then when the old bug is fixed, the new feature gets buggy, because it requires the old bug to work correctly.
14:39 StaffanE pmk65: My professor in Software Maintence said the best rule when it comes to bugs is that automatically delete all bugs older then 1 year. If the bug isn't fixed in one year - it generally never will be fixed
14:40 StaffanE skurfuerst: fluid seems nice - but i didn't really understand how to use it in template building in typo3. Where is my simple content elements?
14:40 pmk65 that's what happened last time there was to many bugs listed. :p
14:40 fuchur StaffanE isn't fluid just for extension development?
14:41 skurfuerst StaffanE: doyou like the podcast?
14:41 StaffanE skurfuerst: yes, it was a nice podcast.
14:41 skurfuerst yep fluid is currently onle used for extensions
14:41 skurfuerst next step (4.4) is to think about using it for normal templates as well
14:41 StaffanE skurfuerst: ah, upcoming features
14:41 pmk65 I received a mail, telling me that my patches and bugreports where too old, and I should recheck then using the current TYPO3 and write new patches. (But when I originally wrote the patches it WAS for the latest TYPO3 version..)
14:42 StaffanE pmk65: that is really really disapointing
14:42 fuchur pmk65 hr hr ... sad. My patch got submitted after three months ^^
14:43 fuchur got the first +1 on the first day, and the second today (guess because the core dev needed the feature himself :P)
14:44 StaffanE it's like this patch that really really would open up TYPO3 for lots of people running on shared hosts. http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=9865
14:45 pmk65 I don't create patches anymore. I just write a text on how to trigger the bug, and maybe also how to fix it.
14:45 StaffanE It's bad that TYPO3 requires a memory_limit of 64MB
14:46 StaffanE when there is 2870 resolved but not closed bugs, something isn't working at all
14:47 fuchur i think it' smore disturbing to hafe hundred of bugs "new" or "open" with a patch allready attached
14:48 StaffanE fuchur: yes, thats also annoying
14:49 StaffanE I wonder if the error of TYPO3 is to have core developer instead of core maintainers?
15:22 randomresult 01
15:23 skurfuerst uh, the network at the university is not the best...
15:23 randomresult 01
15:34 Denjerek Seems that way :)
15:34 Denjerek When you are saying new bugs with patches is sad, what do you mean?
15:35 Denjerek surely the fact someone's come up with a fix already is a good thing ?
15:35 Denjerek I also wonder whether the core team just things "Sod it" and is focussing on the Flow3 version of Typo
15:35 fuchur i think it's hard to find things to work on
15:35 fuchur as "open" and "new" bugs allready have patches :)
15:36 skurfuerst Did you try to put your bugs to the core list, if they already have a patch?
15:36 skurfuerst You don't need a core dev to write something to the core list :)
15:36 skurfuerst Denjerek: most core devs work on v4 right now
15:37 skurfuerst and v4 is not standing still at all - I think we never hat a such exciting release as 4.3
15:44 fuchur skurfuerst ok, i'm missunderstood
15:44 fuchur ^^
15:44 fuchur it's hard to find something to work on
15:44 skurfuerst ah, ok :)
15:44 fuchur because if i filter bugs for "new" and "open" i also get bugs shown which have a solution already
15:44 skurfuerst well you can do always two things:
15:44 skurfuerst take the "new" and "Open" bugs which have a solution and send them to the core lsit after testing
15:44 fuchur i went the easiest way :D
15:45 skurfuerst or you go to extbase/fluid if you want to have a look at the bleeding edge and could help with testing there :)
15:45 fuchur :D
15:45 fuchur i just asked a core dev which thing are important for 4.3 release and he sent me a list :D
15:45 fuchur as easy as that
15:49 maholtz|WORK someone knows a api function to get the subtree of a specific pid in an backend module?
15:53 pmk65 maholtz|WORK> check t3lib/class.t3lib_pagetree.php
15:55 pmk65 I haven't tried it but the "getMenu" looks like what you are after.
16:02 maholtz|WORK @pmk65: thanks, just found t3lib_tsfeBeUserAuth.extGetTreeList
16:02 maholtz|WORK which looks good
16:03 BejjWrk I have an odd problem with the old mailform, for some reason my editors are unable to change the recipient field. I have checked everything regarding permissions, but Im obviously missing something. Any ideas ? Note that it works fine for admins
16:05 maholtz|WORK @BejjWrk: check allowed excludefields
16:06 BejjWrk maholtz|WORK: I did, and it all looks fine, thats what puzzles me
16:12 BejjWrk I'll just drop it for now, I have more important things to work on, thx tho :)
16:15 jonne how do i get rid of js in a templatevolia template thing?
16:16 jonne i'm trying to create a template for the direct mailing, but typo3 keeps adding some weird browser detect js
16:16 jonne which is added as an attachment to my e-mail
16:19 pmk65 try setting config.removeDefaultJS = 1 in your TS setup
16:33 jonne umm, where in the tree is that exactly?
16:33 jonne i tried the sysfolder and the 'newsletter' folder above that, but that didn't do anything
16:34 jonne *direct mail sysfolder
16:49 zed_devil i want to creat tags for my content elements and create a tag cloud of the given tags, is there any extension
18:05 schabracke hey there!
18:10 kraftb hello !
18:12 fuchur hi b
18:30 schabracke aahh somebodys there...finally :)
18:31 schabracke but fuchur isnt into tt_news, right? but kraftb maybe?
18:31 fuchur im not, sry
18:37 kraftb what do you mean by "in" tt_news?
18:37 kraftb i used it at some sites some time ago.
18:38 kraftb but if you ask me some special things I also would have to look it up
18:41 schabracke okay so
18:41 schabracke i have several categorys
18:41 schabracke and several sites - one site (list views and single view) per category
18:41 schabracke but every backlink is the same ...
18:54 flurl schabracke: have you set backPid in your ts?
18:54 schabracke no!
18:54 schabracke cause i set the backpids in the category sysfolders
19:06 Denyerec http://paste.mootools.net/m3880984b Any offers?
19:06 Denyerec (The comments explain the problem)
19:24 pmk65 Denyerec: you just want to replace linebreaks with <br> tags?
19:24 pmk65 in a TYPO3 ext?
19:25 Denyerec No, raw PHP
19:25 Denyerec in that example, it works
19:25 Denyerec when the exact same code is in my larger class, I get the behaviour explained in the comments.
19:25 Denyerec brb
19:44 kraftb how do you recognize the newline ?
19:44 kraftb just by looking into the source?
19:45 kraftb probably your browser did some linebreaking ?
19:46 Denyerec no, the <br /> is inserted
19:46 Denyerec Which the browser would not do.
19:46 Denyerec I wondered if I'd exhausted the stack heap?
19:47 Denyerec Tho my code isn't that deeply nested, so I'd be amazed if I had.
19:47 Denyerec Needless to say it's bloody annoying.
20:36 ries Denyerec: may be a reverse proxy?
20:37 Denyerec HOw do you mean ?
21:08 fuchur man this source is confusing ^^
21:09 Phlogi hi guys
21:13 fuchur hi
21:19 schabracke hey there
21:21 schabracke guys, could someone help me with rgslideshow ext ... i want to use it as an tt_news teaser and got no idea ...
21:35 kraftb hi
21:54 fuchur man
21:55 fuchur i'v been tryin to write a mailinglist post for two hours now
21:55 fuchur :D
21:56 fuchur i have to rapidly improve my english skills ...
21:56 giso791 or try to speak in your native language
21:57 fuchur no, the mailinglist language is english ;)
21:57 fuchur and i want everybody to be able to understand my valueable thoughts
21:57 fuchur *g*
21:58 giso791 o ok thats wat you mean
22:02 fuchur ok
22:02 fuchur sent
22:02 fuchur ^^
22:02 fuchur after deleting it four times
22:03 fuchur and now writing something complete different from that stuff two hours ago
22:03 fuchur anyway
22:35 Phlogi I think mailing lists are down soon :)
23:12 schabracke one question, anyone tried to allign text vertical in a shadowbox?

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