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00:30 whitefawn hi all
00:31 whitefawn I am having a strange problem with HMENU/TMENU - the first level menu items disappear
00:32 whitefawn does anybody know?
00:33 whitefawn http://paste.phlogi.net/-ec0f5b45a4/
00:48 Denyerec looks OK from here
00:48 Denyerec is it in HTML source?
00:48 __stefan__ hey
00:48 Denyerec maybe CSS is hiding it?
00:50 __stefan__ you can i disable the formatting at tt_content.text.20.bodytext? or how can i close html-tags if that are not closed? i crop the bodytext and if a html-tag is open is dont close, then the rest text is formatting too ... So i want to disable the fomatting and display only text or close open html-tags ... but i dont know how ...
06:27 whitefawn @H
06:27 whitefawn hi
06:27 whitefawn Denyerec, are you here?
09:03 hever_ Hello. What's about the security of the built in form? Is it secured against shell injunctions?
10:12 Winston_S hey's
10:18 Prot0 hello
10:19 PiMB wsup!
10:20 TheStandUp Hi all!
10:21 TheStandUp Anybody here to help my with a Typo3 4.3.3 login problem?
10:22 TheStandUp Nobody?
10:22 PiMB well, it's a chat channel but you've gotta wait for more then 20 seconds mate..
10:22 PiMB most of us out here are working as well
10:23 TheStandUp ok :) me too
10:23 PiMB shoot
10:23 PiMB what is the problem
10:24 TheStandUp I have a strange problem: I used 4.3.1 before... no problems...now I updated to 4.3.3 an I can not log in anymore..no error msg.. nothing...
10:24 PiMB login where?
10:24 TheStandUp sorry ...backend
10:24 PiMB okay
10:24 PiMB access to DB?
10:24 TheStandUp if i link the old source it works....
10:25 PiMB can yo access the install tool
10:25 PiMB ?
10:25 TheStandUp everything i did is to unpack 4.3.3 like i did before with 4.3.1 and set a new soft-link
10:25 TheStandUp yes i can
10:25 PiMB and you see the login form?
10:25 TheStandUp yes
10:25 PiMB create a new BE user via the install tool
10:25 PiMB and try that one
10:26 TheStandUp let's try...
10:26 TheStandUp just a moment...
10:30 TheStandUp no...does not work
10:30 TheStandUp i created admin2 with new pass
10:31 PiMB okay
10:31 TheStandUp same behavior
10:31 PiMB anything in the php errorlog?
10:32 TheStandUp im not really sure but i believe php logs into my apache log... there is nothing
10:32 TheStandUp is there any php module 4.3.1 do not use for login but 4.3.3 do?
10:34 PiMB don't know about that one
10:37 TheStandUp i will do a new test...installing 4.3.2... we will see
10:41 TheStandUp typo3 4.3.2 works... very strange...
11:32 maholtz|WORK @TheStandUp: 4.3.3 is available
11:33 maholtz|WORK ah, sry, didnt read what you wrote before...
11:35 foertel hi guys
11:35 maholtz|WORK try to create a new admin via install tool, just for check if that works
11:35 maholtz|WORK http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14103
11:36 maholtz|WORK @TheStandUp: did you fill that bug report? if not just add a message, that you have the problem too
11:45 S_P howdy -- does anyone know if there's a better search engine available for typo3 (i.e. more of a weighted on content type search) ?
11:59 rosieres_ solr
12:00 rosieres_ @S_P -> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?tx_terfe_pi1[view]=search&no_cache=1&tx_terfe_pi1[sword]=solr
13:00 opi99 Hi, how do I make multi language extension manuals?
13:01 SargoDarya S_P I thought you could at least seperate results based on content
14:00 ndee anyone used powermail with a file upload before? The file itself doesn't get transmitted.
14:35 ironm Hi guys :-) .. is it possible to use felogin box on every page with typo3 4.3.3? .. it is working for me ONLY on one dedicated page .. all other attempts show only the MARKER instead of the LoginBox :-(
14:41 marcuslind How do I insert Anchorlinks in the RTE? When I press the link-button I cant link it to pagecontent, only to new pages... Atleast I cant find out how to do it.
14:42 PiMB you should click the arrow behind a page, then it shows the content on that page and you'll be able to select the content
14:42 marcuslind Ah.
14:42 marcuslind Thanks.
14:42 PiMB np mae
14:42 PiMB mate
14:54 swemark hi, i have a problem where tt_news dissapears after login
14:55 ironm access rights?
14:55 ironm hi swemark
14:55 swemark if I "clear all cache" and reloads the page it appears, however then it dissapears when not logged in
14:55 ironm swemark: or the wrong language ?
14:55 swemark Only default language exist
14:56 swemark I'm starting to think it has something to do with the internal caching that was introduced in recent versions of tt_news
15:06 ssc Hi, all
15:06 ssc I've got a problem in creating a xhtml-valide link to my rootpage. I'm working with RealURL and my rootpage has the page-id 1
15:06 ssc If I create a link using TypoLink I get this result: <a href="">MyContent</a>
15:06 ssc And this link is not valide: Warning: <a> attribute "href" lacks value
15:07 S_P @rosieres thanks will check it out
15:08 S_P @SargoDarya as far as I've seen it's a fairly blunt search, it just looks for any instances of a string and returns the result, rather than saying this document has that string 100 times more than this document, so it should be higher on our return
15:10 SargoDarya I think macina_searchbox did an awesome job
15:38 marcuslind I would love to get some feedback on a minimalistic portfolio-design I've created. http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman01/-MarcusLind-Portfolio.jpg Please tell me what you think.
15:41 ssc @marcuslind I think it's really good ... the only thing I'd scale down the curly brace and the exclamation point a little bit ...
15:53 SargoDarya marcuslind: First thing which comes to my mind: It's currently not designed or viewable with a resolution of 1024x768 in mind.
15:56 SargoDarya marcuslind: I also think the HUGE curly brace and exclamation mark are kinda disturbing while reading. If not using an image for that design don't use anti-aliased text because it won't show the original font kerning you're getting in a browser.
15:58 SargoDarya marcusling: Beside that I like the minimalistic style (less is more) but would reorganize your content area to a more logic structure. The first thing I want to know when I'm on a website is: Where am I
16:00 SargoDarya Hot-spot is the curly brace leading to the quote then to the navigation with the exclamation mark and then to the "Swedish creator..."
16:01 SargoDarya I think that's all
16:31 marcuslind SargoDarya: It depends if you run it in Mac or Windows. For me in Mac I get it anti-aliased.
16:32 marcuslind In Windows you get it without anti-alising.
16:32 marcuslind Thanks for the feedback, I was in a meeting.
16:40 SargoDarya marcuslind: since when is anti-aliasing in a jpg os dependent ;)
16:42 Fabian--- is there a way to make it possible for a non-admin backend user to copy a page and have it copy any typoscript templates too if they exist on that page?
16:44 maholtz|WORK @Fabian---: afaik not - but even if it would be possible, you would have a lot of extended typoscript templates. So, perhpas you should think about an different approach
16:48 m0dDa hello,
16:53 m0dDa i am using tt_products + mbi_products_categories, but i have some problems. i want to make a category list with images. 4 images in every line. when you click on this category-image, it should appear the subcategorys or the productlist, if no subcategorys exist. but i dont know how to get the category images
16:55 m0dDa ###CATEGORY_IMAGE### doesnt work in the ###ITEM_CATLIST_TEMPLATE###
16:55 m0dDa can someone help me?
17:22 S_P m0dDa - have you checked the error log?
17:25 JunGle- Hello
17:25 JunGle- It's possible to redirect a page With Ts config?
17:25 JunGle- Ts Config of this page.
17:25 JunGle- ?
17:41 S_P hi JunGle
17:41 S_P why not just do it in the application itself?
17:41 S_P using the alias
17:41 S_P or .htacces
17:42 S_P or apache recirect
17:43 ironm m0dDa: do you know the book "Der TYPO3-Webshop"? .. there should some information inside about tt_product details ... I am so far now so can't help you now :-|
17:43 ironm I am NOT so far ...
18:02 JunGle- it's a long story
18:02 JunGle- i can't S_P
18:03 JunGle- S_P with => config.additionalHeaders = Location: http://www.test.com/index.php?id=1880
18:03 JunGle- but... www.test.com <= i want choose my host
18:10 S_P Well in that case I'm a bit stumped...you maybe able to
18:11 JunGle- http:// config.baseUrl /index...
18:12 JunGle- How to do that...
19:10 Benji5514 hell'o everyone
19:15 Benji5514 is there anybody?
19:23 Benji5514 nobody?
19:44 rosieres_ ask ur question
19:45 Benji5514 I have no question , i'm just a noob in IRC and i want to learn some many things.
20:05 foertel hey ho
21:09 DaHaiz hi guys
21:10 foertel hi DaHaiz
21:12 DaHaiz i'm in the team of my school to create a new homepage, and we decided to use typo3. i'm quite good at programming in php but i haven't almost no idea of how typo3 works. i'd like to start with the typoscript tutorial at webworking-blog.de because it seems to be good.
21:13 DaHaiz might be a very silly question, but where do i have to put the typoscript snippets into?
21:14 DaHaiz i know, that in every page are sections for typoscript, but it doesn't work, if i put it in one of these. so i thought, there could be any "central" place for typoscripts.
21:15 DaHaiz i didn't found some, so you're my last chance to not going crazy with that stuff
21:16 foertel you have to create a new TS template on your root page ;)
21:16 DaHaiz (don't wonder, if my english is not that good - i'm a 16 year old german)
21:17 foertel propably something like this would be a good choice ;) http://www.amazon.de/Einstieg-TYPO3-4-3-Installation-TemplāVoilā/dp/3836214652
21:18 DaHaiz if i'll get familiar with typo3 maybe i'll pay for books, but for now, i want/have to user free online tuts ;)
21:19 DaHaiz where can i choose ts template? if i'll choose "new" in the context menu of "New Typo3 site" no such option appears?
21:29 DaHaiz foertel? :)
21:33 lolli__ DaHaiz, did you already a page below the "weltkugel" page in pagetree?
21:33 foertel DaHaiz: if you're familiar, you don't need the books anymore ;)
21:34 DaHaiz hi lolli__, no i haven#t
21:34 foertel if you want to use free tuts ... feel free to do so *g*
21:34 foertel n'evenin lolli
21:34 lolli__ he foertel
21:34 foertel increasing __, aren't you?
21:34 foertel *g*
21:35 DaHaiz foertel: with familiar i mean, that i would like to know if i like typo3 ;) to buy a book which i'll read until site 3, because i dont like typo3 is quite silly
21:35 lolli__ foertel, let's try to get him started with a hello world FE output :)
21:36 lolli__ DaHaiz, go to list in the left frame (the main module)
21:36 lolli__ choose the top page in the middle frame
21:37 lolli__ click "create new record" icon in the top left of the main frame, create a page (inside), give it a name and save+close
21:37 lolli__ you should then see your first page in the page tree
21:38 DaHaiz hehe, it works. i have had no page created
21:38 DaHaiz now it workds
21:38 DaHaiz and no boring HELLO WORLD!
21:39 DaHaiz "yeah, it works! " typo shouted :D
21:39 lolli__ what works? you now get output on the webpage?
21:39 DaHaiz yes
21:39 DaHaiz # Default PAGE object:
21:39 DaHaiz page = PAGE
21:39 DaHaiz page.10 = TEXT
21:39 DaHaiz page.10.value = yeah, it works!
21:39 lolli nice! great
21:39 DaHaiz that't the content of my ts template
21:39 DaHaiz thank you! :)
21:41 lolli that's a start. next you should get familiar with the ts concept and on how you can retrieve the output of the page module content elements in your frontend.
21:41 DaHaiz i have already a question on the ts concept
21:42 lolli that's related to the styles.content.get thingie, you should find some hints if you start googling on that
21:42 DaHaiz with ts i'm creating frontend object, edit them and the result after all editing gets written on the website?
21:43 DaHaiz styles.content.get is mentioned in my tut, but i didn't get the very first snippet work because i didnt know where to place it
21:43 lolli typoscript basically tells the frontend how a fe page should be build
21:44 lolli for example you could tell with TS that the content of the "normal" column should be outputted to the frontend, or that there should be a menu in the frontend build from the pagetree structure
21:45 DaHaiz but generally all created objects are elements of the to build page and will be placed somewhere on the website until i'll know how to tell it that it should go in some specific place in my template?
21:45 lolli yeah, that's basically correct
21:47 DaHaiz okay. now just one more question :D how do i change the name of my project? currently it's "New Typo3 site", but i don't think, that this is non-editable. in fact i saw some other names in screenshots :)
21:48 lolli try to do the following:
21:48 lolli in TS:
21:48 lolli page >
21:48 lolli page = PAGE
21:48 Provito DaHaiz, via the install tool
21:48 lolli page.10 < styles.content.get
21:49 lolli next, go to the page module and add some content element to the normal column (eg. a text content element) add some content and look at the page in the FE. your content should be shown
21:50 BlueWing hi
21:50 DaHaiz Provito, thanks, it worked. lolli, wait a moment, I'm trying :)
21:51 Provito DaHaiz, I'd advise following the futuristic template building with Templavoila and discover the power of FCE's
21:51 BlueWing is it possible to write a multilanguage template using automaketemplate?
21:51 BlueWing I have <h1>###LLL:fileadmin/locallang.xml:book_a_hotel###</h1> in a template file but it doesn't work
21:52 DaHaiz provito, i've already installed templavoila, but i want to understand typoscript itself before develop bigger things. i've have to develop one or two extensions anyway
21:57 lolli BlueWing, sr, no idea. I didn't use automaketemplate for a long time.
21:58 BlueWing is this any different in templavoila? (I haven't used that)
22:00 DaHaiz lolli, i have created a page text content, but it says its not being used in any language or sheet?
22:02 lolli DaHaiz, that's because you installed tv. that is a different fe rendering approach, try not to mix up too many things up at once. if you want to get the basic TS understanding, you might be better without tv at the beginning and maybe switch to it later on
22:04 lolli BlueWing, you should probably add a simple marker to your template and do the localization via TS
22:05 BlueWing lolli, thanks, that's what I'm trying to avoid :)
22:06 BlueWing I hope there is another way, I have some static parts repeating on every page, I would like to put them straight into a template... but it has to be multilanguage
22:07 foertel damn, time's runnin fast ...
22:07 foertel lolli: got your t3dd ticket? ;)
22:07 lolli man, i'm really feeling a bit rusty with those basics ...
22:07 lolli foertel, sure
22:08 DaHaiz lolli, i did deinstall templavoila and now the content is in the left column
22:08 DaHaiz ts says:
22:08 DaHaiz page >
22:08 DaHaiz page = PAGE
22:08 DaHaiz page.10 < styles.content.get
22:08 DaHaiz but the output is empty
22:08 lolli my first t3dd actually
22:08 lolli DaHaiz, move your content element to the normal column
22:08 foertel lolli: and accomodation? ;)
22:09 lolli or change TS to styles.content.getLeft (@all is this correct?)
22:10 lolli accommodation?
22:11 BlueWing accomodation = a place to stay in, sleep at night and such things
22:11 DaHaiz i have moved the content to the normal column, but the page is still completely white
22:13 lolli foertel, i'll travel ... hh to elmshorn shouldn't be a problem
22:13 foertel lolli: ah ok ... yeah elmshorn kiel neither ... but anyways :D
22:13 foertel we got a nice holiday home ...
22:13 lolli DaHaiz, add your hello world example again and check if it shows up
22:14 DaHaiz add or replace the content get section?
22:15 lolli depends. if you say "page >" below your content get section again you clean up the page object and start from scratch
22:16 DaHaiz page >
22:16 DaHaiz page = PAGE
22:16 DaHaiz page.10 < styles.content.get
22:16 DaHaiz meineSeite = PAGE
22:16 DaHaiz meineSeite.bodyTag = <body>
22:16 DaHaiz meineSeite.10 = TEXT
22:16 DaHaiz meineSeite.10.value = Hello World
22:16 DaHaiz doesnt work
22:17 lolli page >
22:17 lolli page.10 = TEXT
22:17 lolli page.10.value = foo
22:18 lolli aeh, and page = PAGE after the >
22:19 DaHaiz that works
22:19 DaHaiz sorry guys, i have to visit my construction commonly known as bed ^^
22:19 foertel lolli: what about that bug day thing? are you gonna join us?
22:19 lolli DaHaiz, sleep well and good luck with you basic findings
22:20 DaHaiz i promise, i'll stalk you again the next days :P
22:20 lolli foertel, is that already announced?
22:20 DaHaiz gn8 @ all
22:20 foertel that's gonna happen on monday i think ... this is, what i've heard
22:23 lolli foertel, i'll check that as soon as a decision is taken. e-net will probably give me a off-company day for this and i'm registered as "not available for company stuff" on bugdays anyway
22:26 foertel query ;)
22:26 BlueWing there you have a calendar for the "bug days" http://typo3.org/development/bug-fixing/bug-day/
22:30 foertel ah thanks BlueWing
22:30 foertel *g*
22:33 BlueWing I'm afraid I won't be able to avoid doing the localization from TS... either make 2 template files and switch between them or make 1 template file with markers and do the localization from TS... I recall I had to make separate files for mailformplus for each language and I didn't like it
23:47 ironm hi .. I have a typo3 4.1.5 website (using Templavoila) .. is there any EASY way to transfer it to typo3 4.3.3 (also using TV) ?
23:50 ironm well .. I can copy all files in fileadmin and make an sqldump of the database ... BUT ... would it work with typo 4.3.3 ? (some tables have had probably changed ..)
23:52 phil1 ironm: http://dmitry-dulepov.com/article/typo3-installation-and-upgrade-e-book.html
23:52 ironm great! .. thanks a lot phil1 ! :-)

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