| 00:26 |
flipmoe |
hi |
| 00:27 |
flipmoe |
after renaming a page the realurl path segment hasn't changed |
| 00:27 |
flipmoe |
does that take some time? |
| 00:28 |
flipmoe |
or how can i change the path segement manually? |
| 00:28 |
flipmoe |
thx |
| 00:28 |
ironm |
have you cleaned caches flipmoe ? |
| 00:28 |
flipmoe |
yes |
| 00:29 |
flipmoe |
browser and typo3 |
| 08:15 |
gRuMbLe |
mo1n o.0 |
| 08:16 |
gRuMbLe |
my dopdown filter from realty manager don't work, can anybody help me? |
| 09:27 |
maholtz|WORK |
morning |
| 09:28 |
Provito |
Good morning |
| 09:30 |
PiMB |
morning all |
| 09:59 |
Prot0 |
morning :-) |
| 10:15 |
drindt |
my old code for file links is not working after updating to 4.3.3, i cant find tt_content.uploads, i replaced this with steyles.content.uploads but does not bring back the filelinks. someone can please help? |
| 11:19 |
Winston_S |
hey's |
| 11:19 |
marcuslind |
Hi guys, I'm developing a extension where a string of XML is generated and send to another server with cURL. The server wants to retrieve all data with the ISO-8859-1 encoding but for some reason I can't change it from UTF-8 -> ISO-8859-1. I've saved the _pi1.php file to ISO Latin 1 multiply times but still, when I do mb_detect_encoding() on the XML string, it returns "UTF-8". Anyone know why this happends? |
| 11:20 |
marcuslind |
Also, when I do a utf8_decode() the swedish letters ÅÄÖ gets returned as questionmarks(Ö = ?). |
| 12:00 |
sint |
hey, i would love to start with typo3. if i want to create a smaller website, should i avoid typo3? |
| 12:00 |
Winston_S |
imho there's no way to answer that generally. all depends on what you want to do. |
| 12:00 |
scrieler_grml |
for a small site wordpress is fine =) |
| 12:04 |
tPl0ch |
Is there some kind of "random" type in typoscript |
| 12:07 |
Winston_S |
sint, t3 is great imho, but it comes with some overhead to learn/manage/template it properly. you should decide if your site is worth the overhead. |
| 12:08 |
sint |
Winston_S: the only overhead i care about is system speed and some management. the site should have a gallery, news with rss, about pages and some more information pages. no community and stuff |
| 12:09 |
Winston_S |
not sure about the rss, but afaik you could do all this with t3 |
| 12:09 |
Winston_S |
and i think the rss also |
| 12:10 |
sint |
ok, i think rss should be included |
| 12:10 |
sint |
would make no sense otherwise |
| 12:10 |
sint |
i think i'll should give it a try |
| 12:11 |
sint |
i only wondered about speed compared to joomla or stuff |
| 12:15 |
Winston_S |
i dont have much to compare with, but i was satisfied with the performance. |
| 12:15 |
Winston_S |
this also depends on number of pages, number of concurrent users, database performance, etc etc etc |
| 12:33 |
er_gaurav |
how can i backup with typo3 |
| 12:35 |
Winston_S |
er_gaurav, have you tried this? http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/w4x_backup/current/ |
| 12:41 |
Prot0 |
i prefer |
| 12:41 |
Prot0 |
mysqldump -uuser -ppassword dbname > db.sql |
| 12:42 |
Prot0 |
tar cvf - www/ | gzip > www.tar.gz |
| 12:42 |
Prot0 |
:D |
| 12:42 |
er_gaurav |
helo |
| 12:42 |
er_gaurav |
can typo3 do incremental back up |
| 13:17 |
marcuslind |
Hi guys, I'm developing a extension where a string of XML is generated and send to another server with cURL. The server wants to retrieve all data with the ISO-8859-1 encoding but for some reason I can't change it from UTF-8 -> ISO-8859-1. I've saved the _pi1.php file to ISO Latin 1 multiply times but still, when I do mb_detect_encoding() on the XML string, it returns "UTF-8". Anyone know why this happends? |
| 13:17 |
marcuslind |
Also, when I do a utf8_decode() the swedish letters ÅÄÖ gets returned as questionmarks(Ö = ?). |
| 13:36 |
tPl0ch |
~bin |
| 13:39 |
tPl0ch |
http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/adding_own_css_to_head/ |
| 13:40 |
tPl0ch |
somehow it's not including the file |
| 13:40 |
tPl0ch |
but just the path |
| 13:40 |
tPl0ch |
do I forget sth here? |
| 13:40 |
tPl0ch |
it just says "css file" in docs |
| 14:23 |
Phlunk3 |
sr_feuser_register question again, has anyone ever added a middle name field and had sr_feuser_register use this in all text addressing the user? Can't seem to find where to change it so its using it for the emails and confirmation screens. |
| 14:25 |
SargoDarya |
Most people enter middlename in firstname as far as I know |
| 14:26 |
Phlunk3 |
lol |
| 14:37 |
Phlunk3 |
and fe_user redirect at login being set via the usergroup extended settings isnt working for me, does anyone know something else I need to do to enable this? |
| 15:14 |
Phlunk3 |
felogin, redirect at login, value is set in usergroup record, plugin has been told to use the first method found and the only method chosen was that from the usergroup record. Any ideas why redirect still isnt working? |
| 15:29 |
raki |
Phlunk3: regarding the redirect: do you hide the login-page after a successful login via page properties? |
| 15:29 |
Phlunk3 |
no |
| 15:30 |
raki |
mhmm... that was my problem with the redirect... because for the user the login page was not available anymore -> no redirect |
| 15:41 |
anteatersa1 |
hello all, exciting day am creating my first extension but wanted to ask a question? |
| 15:42 |
aishumoorthy |
hi all, does anybody know about how many slots are alloted for TYPO3 in GSOC??? |
| 15:42 |
anteatersa1 |
I ma tring to sotre longitude / latitude in a field but in TCA the fiels are set to eval double2 which cuts off the ends of my long numbers, what should I change to? |
| 15:43 |
Winston_S |
see you |
| 15:44 |
anteatersa1 |
actually I just removed double2 and that is fine |
| 16:02 |
TheEternalAbyss |
hi I'm getting this warning: |
| 16:02 |
TheEternalAbyss |
one sec |
| 16:03 |
SargoDarya |
That's a strange warning :P |
| 16:03 |
TheEternalAbyss |
lol |
| 16:03 |
TheEternalAbyss |
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /homepages/22/d323571146/htdocs/chriscastiglione.com/typo3conf/ |
| 16:03 |
TheEternalAbyss |
ext/mouseoverimages/pi1/class.tx_mouseoverimages_pi1.php:187) in /homepages/22/d323571146/htdocs/chriscastiglione.com/typo3/sysext/cms/tslib/class.tslib_fe.php on line 3229 |
| 16:03 |
TheEternalAbyss |
there |
| 16:03 |
TheEternalAbyss |
so.....wtf is going on?? lol |
| 16:03 |
TheEternalAbyss |
this is showing up after I migrated my site from one host to another |
| 16:04 |
PiMB |
so, exactly what is wrong is shown. |
| 16:05 |
PiMB |
you have something that generates output on line 187 in class.tx_mouseoverimages_pi1.php |
| 16:06 |
TheEternalAbyss |
but it didn't give me that warning on my previous host |
| 16:06 |
TheEternalAbyss |
why would it do that now? |
| 16:07 |
PiMB |
other php versions / settings |
| 16:07 |
PiMB |
I don't know. |
| 16:07 |
PiMB |
but that's what's wrong :) |
| 16:07 |
PiMB |
check that line |
| 16:08 |
TheEternalAbyss |
hmm |
| 16:08 |
TheEternalAbyss |
k |
| 16:11 |
TheEternalAbyss |
there's nothing on line 187 |
| 16:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
it's the last line of the document |
| 16:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
-_-;; |
| 16:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
185: ?> |
| 16:12 |
PiMB |
and is that an empty line? |
| 16:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
186: |
| 16:12 |
PiMB |
alright then |
| 16:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
187: |
| 16:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
yup |
| 16:12 |
PiMB |
remove 186 and 187 |
| 16:13 |
PiMB |
and you're done |
| 16:13 |
PiMB |
there should never be a newline before or after the <? / ?> |
| 16:15 |
TheEternalAbyss |
hmm....looks like the warning's gone...I think |
| 16:15 |
TheEternalAbyss |
thanks for the help |
| 16:15 |
PiMB |
:) |
| 16:15 |
PiMB |
np mate |
| 16:33 |
ixsys |
hello |
| 16:34 |
ixsys |
is it possible to get the cObj when using the eID mechanism? |
| 16:34 |
Phlunk3 |
PiMB weet jij iets over felogin redirect? Can't seem to get it to work at all. |
| 16:34 |
Phlunk3 |
yes ixsys |
| 16:34 |
PiMB |
have used it before |
| 16:34 |
PiMB |
what is the problem? |
| 16:35 |
ixsys |
@Phlunk3 what do i have to do? |
| 16:35 |
Phlunk3 |
just doesnt seem to care what I set, doesnt do anything. Have set the plugin to use the value from usergroup and use first found. Set it in the feuser group, but nothing happens :( |
| 16:36 |
Phlunk3 |
Good question ixsys :P I can't seem to find it, but I am sure I've done it for some project in the past, thought it was this one but it isn't sorry. |
| 16:37 |
ixsys |
ok thx anyway. is there someone else who knows how to get the cObj when using the eID mechanism? |
| 16:38 |
Phlunk3 |
$GLOBALS['TSFE']->newCObj(); <-- take a look at this |
| 16:40 |
ixsys |
thx i will try it |
| 16:43 |
ironm |
hi SargoDarya .. are you around? |
| 16:46 |
ironm |
Guys .. one question: the sr_feuser_register plugin doesn't display any register page in FE (debian squeezy or ubuntu 10.04 and typo3 4.3.3) .. only the header name .. any idea why? |
| 16:47 |
ironm |
I have tried the setting due to the some books or the sr_feuser_register documentation |
| 16:47 |
ironm |
how I could DEBUG what is the reason? -- thanks in advance for any hints |
| 16:50 |
Phlunk3 |
what mode do you have the plugin set to? |
| 16:50 |
Phlunk3 |
and have you configured the typoscript ? |
| 16:50 |
SargoDarya |
of course |
| 16:52 |
ironm |
Phlunk3: depends on the page .. a normal one (main page) ... edit .. (edit page) and create (create page) |
| 16:53 |
ironm |
I was trying with and w/o setting any TS script Phlunk3 |
| 16:53 |
ironm |
just put the plugin as a CE on the appriopriate pages and adding FE_user_register .. to the root template |
| 16:57 |
Phlunk3 |
and the content element is showing on the frontend, but completely empty? |
| 16:57 |
ironm |
yes Phlunk3 .. only the name of the header (I typed in when creating the feuser_register plugin content ) |
| 16:58 |
Phlunk3 |
what version of sr_feuser_register are you using? |
| 16:58 |
Phlunk3 |
sorry I have to go, work things |
| 16:58 |
ironm |
Do you have any idea how I could debug it Phlunk3 ? .. there are any Error-Messages |
| 16:58 |
ironm |
thank you Phlunk3 :-) .. have a nice weeken |
| 16:59 |
ironm |
+d |
| 16:59 |
SargoDarya |
ironm: hi :D |
| 17:00 |
ironm |
re SargoDarya .. :-) |
| 17:00 |
dokma |
ironm is your page on a server where you can install xdebug? |
| 17:00 |
ironm |
it is my own local server dokma |
| 17:01 |
dokma |
then just add xdebug module to php |
| 17:01 |
dokma |
and you can debug that in 2 minutes |
| 17:01 |
ironm |
I will install xdebug . let's see if there is such package |
| 17:01 |
dokma |
what distro? |
| 17:01 |
ironm |
I tried ubuntu 10.04 ... and now debian squeezy |
| 17:01 |
dokma |
I'm on debian as well |
| 17:02 |
dokma |
if you need the setup let me know |
| 17:02 |
ironm |
I have to check how to add the xdebug module tu php ... |
| 17:02 |
ironm |
which setup dokma ? the TS ? .. oder typo3 setup? |
| 17:02 |
dokma |
the debugger setup |
| 17:02 |
dokma |
you can also follow my video tutorial: http://www.evorion.hr/fileadmin/videos_en/eclipse_php_xdebug.ogv |
| 17:03 |
ironm |
sure . I will need it .. @ dokma .. tnx in advance :-) |
| 17:03 |
ironm |
ok |
| 17:03 |
ironm |
great dokma :-) |
| 17:04 |
dokma |
:D enjoy |
| 17:04 |
ironm |
I will .. if I will be able to watch it using linux |
| 17:05 |
ironm |
merci :-) |
| 17:06 |
ironm |
dokma: do I need to install eclipse for debugging php with xdebug? |
| 17:07 |
dokma |
I think there are other IDEs that can do that |
| 17:07 |
dokma |
but I kind of got used to eclipse... |
| 17:07 |
ironm |
I more vi / sed / awk oriented .. |
| 17:07 |
ironm |
+am |
| 17:07 |
dokma |
I'm pretty sure sed and awk can't do it :D |
| 17:07 |
dokma |
vi is not a very good candidate either |
| 17:10 |
ironm |
dokma: really nice video tutorial ! :-) |
| 17:10 |
dokma |
I'm glad I gave something good back! |
| 17:30 |
bayer |
hi there, i have an issue with the gifbuilder in 4.3.3 - its simply not working (no images are rendered). downgrading to 4.3.2 is the only thing i need to do to make them render again. is there a known issue? |
| 17:53 |
tomsdale |
Hi, is anyone using KDE Knode to connect to the typo3 news server? I just wanted to reply and my message got rejecte :-( |
| 17:57 |
tomsdale |
my bad - you don't have to "reply by e-mail" but to create a "follow up" - then it works :-) |
| 19:10 |
ironm |
dokma: it is a local testserver only (192.168.1.101) .. with a NAT router in front |
| 19:10 |
dokma |
ironm: having problems? what is going on? |
| 19:11 |
ironm |
I have to make some food shopping .. will play with xdebug later .. it is a a bit complex for me *lol* |
| 19:12 |
ironm |
probably I made some mistakes as creating an own typo3_4.2-4.3.3.deb package .. |
| 19:13 |
ironm |
otherwise sr_feuser_registesr would run due to the documentation I guess |
| 19:14 |
ironm |
if there would a a kind of fingerprint for the typo3 4.3.3. installation (based on debian) incl. config files it would help me frist @ dokma |
| 19:15 |
ironm |
finger print like "ls -lR /usr/share/.../typo3.../ /var/lib/typo-3dummy/ ... " |
| 19:16 |
dokma |
ironm: I run dosens of live typo3 sites and all were install like: wget, tar xfz, create database and user, run install tool |
| 19:16 |
dokma |
ironm: I don't use debian typo3 package at all |
| 19:16 |
ironm |
hmm .. |
| 19:17 |
ironm |
do you have typo3 4.3.3. running already? æ dokma |
| 19:17 |
dokma |
ironm: not yet... didn't even notice it came out |
| 19:17 |
dokma |
I'll update my starter package today probably |
| 19:17 |
dokma |
lately I just use my starter package and clone it with a script |
| 19:18 |
ironm |
debian people made for packages: typo3 metapackage .. with typo3database, typo3-src and typo3-dummy |
| 19:18 |
dokma |
it sets up apache conf and all I need to run typo3 in seconds |
| 19:18 |
dokma |
ironm: it's a bit too fragmented for my taste |
| 19:18 |
ironm |
I wanted to downgrade to typo3 4.3.2 (the original package for squeezy) and check it again (sr_feuser_register) |
| 19:19 |
dokma |
do you have dyndns on your machine? |
| 19:19 |
ironm |
well .. typo3database would allow you to use another DB .. like postgresql or mariaDB |
| 19:19 |
dokma |
can I see the site? |
| 19:19 |
ironm |
no |
| 19:19 |
ironm |
is local .. behind a NAT router |
| 19:20 |
dokma |
my machine is as well but you can see sites on it thanks to port forwarding and dyndns |
| 19:21 |
ibo |
Hi together, is this the right place to ask for some help regarding an error message? |
| 19:21 |
ironm |
it will take more time for me to config it ... than first trying to solve the problem in another way I guess |
| 19:22 |
ironm |
you are a happy man ibo .. if you are getting "error messages" from typo3 ;-) |
| 19:22 |
dokma |
ibo: just shoot |
| 19:22 |
ironm |
dokma: do use sr_feuser_register ? |
| 19:22 |
ironm |
+you |
| 19:22 |
er_gaurav |
does typo3 support subscription based e commerce |
| 19:22 |
dokma |
ironm: yes |
| 19:22 |
ibo |
I got a parse error when I tried to store my first Typo3 test page |
| 19:23 |
ibo |
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting ']' in /is/htdocs/wp1145759_5ISVHG3Z5N/www/t3lib/class.t3lib_tcemain.php on line 5711 |
| 19:23 |
dokma |
er_gaurav: I believe it does |
| 19:23 |
ibo |
Frankly spoken I have no idea what's wrong |
| 19:24 |
er_gaurav |
can som one have link for downloading typo3 5 |
| 19:24 |
dokma |
ibo: sonds bad... |
| 19:24 |
ironm |
@ dokma: sr_feuser_registration .. do you have some additional edit work in the Constants-Editor for the sr_feuser_register Plugin ? |
| 19:25 |
er_gaurav |
i mean to typo 5 |
| 19:26 |
dokma |
er_gaurav: it is typo3 5 |
| 19:26 |
dokma |
typo3 is the name |
| 19:26 |
dokma |
5 is the version of typo3 |
| 19:27 |
ibo |
It's a new typo3 installation and I just pressed the store button after creating a small test page |
| 19:28 |
ibo |
The installation seems to be ok so far |
| 19:28 |
ironm |
ibo: what version ? 4.3.3 ?? .. what OS? |
| 19:28 |
ibo |
4.3.3 / and the server system might be an Apache server (HostEurope |
| 19:29 |
er_gaurav |
i want some themes for typo 3 |
| 19:29 |
er_gaurav |
where they are |
| 19:29 |
er_gaurav |
where i can get themes for typo 3 |
| 19:30 |
ironm |
do you mean templates incl CSS files er_gaurav ? |
| 19:30 |
SargoDarya |
ironm: re for about a half hour |
| 19:30 |
er_gaurav |
yes |
| 19:30 |
ironm |
re SargoDarya :-) |
| 19:31 |
SargoDarya |
Still fiddling around with sr_feuser_registration? |
| 19:31 |
ironm |
yes SargoDarya |
| 19:32 |
ironm |
I don't know er_gaurav ... most of people do it themself I guess |
| 19:32 |
er_gaurav |
ok well could u suggest me a proper book for typo3 |
| 19:32 |
ironm |
er_gaurav: it always depends on extension you have installed |
| 19:33 |
ironm |
can you understand german er_gaurav ? |
| 19:34 |
er_gaurav |
no |
| 19:34 |
er_gaurav |
only english |
| 19:34 |
ironm |
well .. I don't a really good one in English :-/ |
| 19:34 |
ironm |
+know |
| 19:35 |
ironm |
my recomendation would be just: http://www.hanser.de/buch.asp?isbn=978-3-446-41733-5&area=Computer |
| 19:37 |
ironm |
er_gaurav: -.. but this is a german book |
| 20:19 |
ironm |
for what reason does NOT the debian typo3-src package have the following script: typo3_src-4.3.3/typo3/contrib/scriptaculous/scriptaculous.js ? |
| 20:22 |
ironm |
!phlogi |
| 20:43 |
Wol |
Someone know how to have have the history of each modification when we add, edit or suppress records. Like an hook when we save ? |
| 20:43 |
Wol |
but i want to have specific message when some fields is modified. |
| 20:51 |
lolli |
Wol, if ext:version is installed, you should get a pretty good working history of changes |
| 20:52 |
Wol |
yeah, i now that but i can have an API or something for that? |
| 20:52 |
Wol |
i need to have something user freindly |
| 20:56 |
Wol |
or an another view for versionning |
| 21:02 |
lolli |
mmhh |
| 21:02 |
lolli |
the versioning infos are all stored in a separate table |
| 21:02 |
lolli |
so you might consider to hack up some new module if you need some more fanzy output |
| 21:50 |
TheEternalAbyss |
hmm had a question |
| 21:50 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i migrated my typo3 site from host A to host B |
| 21:51 |
TheEternalAbyss |
while I was doing that, someone who had access to host A backend made modifications to the content |
| 21:51 |
TheEternalAbyss |
so I exported the DB again and uploaded it |
| 21:51 |
TheEternalAbyss |
to host B |
| 21:51 |
TheEternalAbyss |
but I don't see the changes |
| 21:51 |
TheEternalAbyss |
how come? |
| 21:52 |
ironm |
did you drop the "original§ DB? @ TheEternalAbyss |
| 21:52 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i went into the install and changed the DB my site should use to the new one |
| 21:54 |
ironm |
was it a "content change" only TheEternalAbyss ? |
| 21:54 |
timdeluxe |
clear caches |
| 21:54 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i did |
| 21:54 |
timdeluxe |
clear caches aaaand clear caches! ;) |
| 21:54 |
timdeluxe |
ok |
| 21:54 |
TheEternalAbyss |
still doesn't show updates |
| 21:55 |
timdeluxe |
was the second import correct? |
| 21:55 |
TheEternalAbyss |
apparently |
| 21:55 |
flipmoe |
hey isn't it possible anymore to include an external typoscript file? |
| 21:55 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i had my host upload and import the file |
| 21:55 |
ironm |
if you delete the "FIRST" DB there would be NO possibility to show any "OLD" content ;-) |
| 21:55 |
timdeluxe |
hm |
| 21:56 |
TheEternalAbyss |
no old db is there but i changed in the install section to not point to that |
| 21:56 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i could delete it i guess |
| 21:56 |
ironm |
how did you check it TheEternalAbyss ? |
| 21:56 |
TheEternalAbyss |
how did i check what |
| 21:56 |
ironm |
that you use the newer DB TheEternalAbyss |
| 21:57 |
TheEternalAbyss |
cause in install I see the new db as the db i'm connected to |
| 21:57 |
lolli |
flipmoe, it's definatly possible to include external ts files, we do this all the time |
| 21:57 |
flipmoe |
yeah me too |
| 21:57 |
flipmoe |
in the past versions |
| 21:57 |
flipmoe |
but in the current one it seems it doesn't work |
| 21:57 |
flipmoe |
for me at least |
| 21:57 |
ironm |
what OS do you have TheEternalAbyss ? |
| 21:57 |
lolli |
which version? |
| 21:58 |
flipmoe |
4.3 |
| 21:58 |
ironm |
4.3.3 ? |
| 21:58 |
lolli |
which minor version? |
| 21:58 |
TheEternalAbyss |
I have os X leapord |
| 21:58 |
flipmoe |
mom |
| 21:58 |
TheEternalAbyss |
using typo3 4.2.10 on a linux host |
| 21:58 |
flipmoe |
4.3.1 |
| 21:58 |
ironm |
do you have full admin access to your typo3 server? @ TheEternalAbyss |
| 21:59 |
lolli |
flipmoe, definatly works for me |
| 21:59 |
TheEternalAbyss |
yes |
| 21:59 |
flipmoe |
ok thx |
| 21:59 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i should have full access |
| 21:59 |
flipmoe |
i'll try it again... |
| 22:00 |
lolli |
# Add all your TS to ext:tmplfoo |
| 22:00 |
ironm |
check: /etc/typo3-dummy/debian-db.php and /etc/typo3-database/debian-db.php @ TheEternalAbyss |
| 22:00 |
lolli |
<INCLUDE_TYPOSCRIPT: source="FILE:EXT:tmplfoo/staticTS/setup.txt"> |
| 22:00 |
TheEternalAbyss |
what am I checking for? |
| 22:01 |
lolli |
flipmoe, we do this all the time and i'm sure it didn't break between 4.2 and 4.3. our rule is: no TS in db .. |
| 22:01 |
ironm |
inside these files you have the name of the DB and some more details TheEternalAbyss |
| 22:01 |
flipmoe |
lolli: hmm |
| 22:01 |
flipmoe |
won't work |
| 22:01 |
flipmoe |
any special write permissions? |
| 22:02 |
lolli |
mhhh, yeah permissions might be an idea. check them |
| 22:02 |
TheEternalAbyss |
ok...give me a second, uploading some files |
| 22:02 |
lolli |
or you have some db-ts on a subpage overwriting things? |
| 22:02 |
TheEternalAbyss |
oh wait...hold on I can check these in my control panel |
| 22:03 |
lolli |
btw: to see TS records bound via DB to certain pages: choose typoscript module and click on the first page (globe symbol) |
| 22:04 |
lolli |
you'll get a list of TS records on pages |
| 22:04 |
TheEternalAbyss |
where is "etc/.." directory? |
| 22:05 |
ironm |
/etc |
| 22:05 |
TheEternalAbyss |
in root? |
| 22:05 |
ironm |
yes |
| 22:06 |
TheEternalAbyss |
cause i don't have an etc in my root |
| 22:06 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i didn't use the dummy site as a template |
| 22:06 |
ironm |
what kind of Linux is running on your server? |
| 22:06 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i'm not sure |
| 22:07 |
ironm |
I mean every Linux should have /etc ;-) |
| 22:08 |
TheEternalAbyss |
yea but it's a hosting company. I don't think I have direct access to their system since it's shared hosting |
| 22:08 |
TheEternalAbyss |
just my directories |
| 22:10 |
ironm |
that is right .. TheEternalAbyss |
| 22:10 |
lolli |
fyi: flipmoes's issue is solved, it was a typo in the referenced filename ... |
| 22:10 |
ironm |
a good hint with the INCLUDE_TYPOSCRIPT issue @ lolli :-) |
| 22:11 |
ironm |
TheEternalAbyss: drop the first DB .. and use the new one ... |
| 22:12 |
lolli |
ironm, yes. we always stuff our ts to files (the setup.txt is a fork-file that includes further files). this way we are able to handle changes wit git / svn and can easily deploy it between dev- and live systems |
| 22:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
it should be using the 2nd one as in install, it's logged into that one. I'm deleting the 1st one now |
| 22:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
if T3 is that stupid tho, i'm going to kick something small and defenseless |
| 22:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
that even if you tell it which db to use it just decides to use whatever one it wants i mean |
| 22:13 |
ironm |
an excellent idea lolli ... otherwise you have to do all the work again when starting with a new site @ lolli |
| 22:13 |
ironm |
TheEternalAbyss: it is not always EASY to follow some typo3 problems ... |
| 22:14 |
ironm |
BUT mostly people make mistakes ;-) |
| 22:14 |
lolli |
that's also why we always have a "tmpl" extension for projects, so all ts is located in typo3conf/ext/tmpl and not within fileadmin or somewhere. that is important for all .js, .css, images, default userTSconfig and son on |
| 22:14 |
TheEternalAbyss |
f**k.... |
| 22:15 |
ironm |
do you need an extra Extension lolli ? |
| 22:15 |
TheEternalAbyss |
yea it's my fault i think |
| 22:15 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i have the wrong host in there |
| 22:15 |
ironm |
the DB can be on a different host TheEternalAbyss |
| 22:15 |
lolli |
ironm, yes, we always have one special ext for all js, ts, css, settings and other ressources :) |
| 22:16 |
TheEternalAbyss |
dammit |
| 22:16 |
lolli |
deploying new settings from dev to live in then just a rsync of the ext-folder to live |
| 22:16 |
TheEternalAbyss |
it didn't fix the problem |
| 22:17 |
lolli |
we usually link typo3conf/ext to build123, and re-link to a new version on a release day. this way we can switch back easily. too. |
| 22:19 |
ironm |
Do you have many TS files in tmplfoo/staticTS ? ... what is the content of the EXT:tmplfoo/staticTS/setup.txt ? @ lolli |
| 22:19 |
ironm |
yes .. fast switching @ lolli :-) |
| 22:20 |
ironm |
TheEternalAbyss: delete the first DB on the new server .. and put the newer one |
| 22:20 |
lolli |
ironm, example content of setup.txt in qry |
| 22:22 |
ironm |
thanks a lot lolli :-) |
| 22:23 |
lolli |
welcome. this way we have a pretty well structured ts tree |
| 22:24 |
ironm |
do you use the constants-editor at all lolli ? |
| 22:25 |
lolli |
no |
| 22:26 |
ironm |
it makes sense .. :-) |
| 22:27 |
lolli |
btw: you should prevent delivering of those files via webrowser directly with a .htaccess files to not open security problems (information retrieval) |
| 22:27 |
ironm |
ok |
| 22:27 |
lolli |
we usually unset ext-delivered css things anyway ... |
| 22:27 |
ironm |
I was not using .htaccess at all until now :-o |
| 22:29 |
ironm |
lolli: is there a possibility to make a kind of profile for all installed extensions when installing a new version of typo3 ? |
| 22:29 |
lolli |
and we mostly overwrite default ts things delivered with exts, too. rule of thumb: find any ts in the ext-folder, nowhere elsee |
| 22:29 |
ironm |
I see ... |
| 22:29 |
lolli |
btw: we are talking about bigger projects here, for simple sites i wouldn't take this overhead |
| 22:30 |
ironm |
what are "bigger" projects for you lolli ? |
| 22:30 |
ironm |
did you get it TheEternalAbyss ? |
| 22:32 |
lolli |
ironm, well ... we're fiddling with 120k tt_news records, 30k fe users and 90 extensions in this case .. |
| 22:32 |
ironm |
OK .. it is a HUGE one ! |
| 22:33 |
ironm |
what kind of hardware do you need to handle 30k users? .. I guess not 30k concurrent users ;-) @ lolli |
| 22:34 |
lolli |
eg, we developed a cache extension based on the new 4.3 caching framework to handle all the requests on one (!) server: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/enetcache/current/ |
| 22:34 |
ironm |
would you recommend to use the sr_feuser_register extension lolli ? ... oder another one ? |
| 22:35 |
ironm |
WOW |
| 22:35 |
lolli |
dig into it ... it should work pretty well ... feedback welcome ;) |
| 22:36 |
lolli |
ironm, no, we abandoned sr_feuser_register |
| 22:36 |
ironm |
I am reading already ;-) ... somehow can't get the sr_feuser_register working for me |
| 22:36 |
lolli |
it has too many design flaws for our needs |
| 22:37 |
ironm |
the plugin box is not there ... only the header (name) |
| 22:38 |
lolli |
http://forge.typo3.org/projects/show/extension-feuserregister .... this is a possible alternative to sr_ it's not as far as it could be but is pretty well structured codewise |
| 22:39 |
ironm |
I will test it now .. I mean enetcache ;-) |
| 22:40 |
lolli |
hah, great. have fun. hope the documentation will work for you ... again: any feedback welcome ... i had some hard time hacking this documentation up |
| 22:41 |
ironm |
lolli: ERROR: Query could not be parsed: "SQL engine parse ERROR: No action CHANGE, DROP or ADD found!: near "ENGINE=InnoDB "". Query: "ALTER TABLE tx_enetcache_contentcache ENGINE=InnoDB;" |
| 22:42 |
ironm |
I have just installed it and made "update" |
| 22:42 |
lolli |
btw: all real important performance improvements to get this fast are (partly) in 4.3 and all in 4.4 |
| 22:42 |
lolli |
ironm: do you really need dbal? deinstall if not! |
| 22:43 |
ironm |
I dont really need it I guess |
| 22:43 |
lolli |
if you just need mysql, you don't need it .. |
| 22:43 |
lolli |
frankly i didn't ever used enetcache with dbal ... |
| 22:44 |
ironm |
hmm ..... The extension(s) 'dbal' depend(s) on the extension you are trying to remove. The operation was not completed. |
| 22:44 |
lolli |
?! |
| 22:44 |
ironm |
I use mysql ... maybe later I would like to change to Postgres |
| 22:45 |
ironm |
I guess MariaDB is like MySQK |
| 22:45 |
ironm |
MySQL |
| 22:45 |
lolli |
ironm, maybe you don't want to do so ;) |
| 22:45 |
ironm |
do you mean Postgres or MariaDB? |
| 22:45 |
lolli |
simple: t3 works best with mysql. don't change it if you don't really have to |
| 22:47 |
lolli |
xavier did a great job to improve dbal. but still "native" is mysql. don't use dbal if you are on mysql only and are not forced to use something else. keep life simple ;) |
| 22:48 |
lolli |
btw: i didn't know that dbal is unable to parse the "ENGINE=InnoDB " string ... that should be fixed anyway ... |
| 22:48 |
TheEternalAbyss |
fixed. turns out the tech support person who uploaded and imported the db file for me had imported the wrong file. The correct file is imported now and my site is up to date |
| 22:48 |
TheEternalAbyss |
:D |
| 22:48 |
ironm |
yes .. I try to keep life simple .. is there a clean way to "deinstall" such extension? .. even if there is an error message (like above) |
| 22:49 |
ironm |
congratulations TheEternalAbyss ;-) |
| 22:49 |
lolli |
ironm, which of your extensions depends on dbal? |
| 22:49 |
ironm |
how to check it lolli ? |
| 22:49 |
lolli |
the em should tell .. |
| 22:49 |
ironm |
let's see what I can find out ... |
| 22:51 |
lolli |
dbal installs and deinstalls fine for me (in current trunk at least) |
| 22:52 |
ironm |
I can't find any dependencies :-/ |
| 22:54 |
lolli |
well ... just deinstall dbal and see what happens ^^ |
| 22:54 |
ironm |
ok .. |
| 22:55 |
ironm |
well .. I am not able to deinstall ... : The extension(s) 'dbal' depend(s) on the extension you are trying to remove. The operation was not completed. |
| 22:56 |
lolli |
?! .... weird. |
| 22:56 |
lolli |
ok, edit localconf.php and remove it from extList and extList_FE |
| 22:56 |
ironm |
pfrobably I should make a new installation of typo3 :-o |
| 22:56 |
ironm |
ok |
| 22:57 |
TheEternalAbyss |
thanks for all the help iron |
| 22:57 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i'm off |
| 22:57 |
TheEternalAbyss |
bai guys, have a good weekend |
| 22:58 |
ironm |
there are three dbal lines in localconf.php .. should I delete them? |
| 22:59 |
ironm |
so ... deleted |
| 22:59 |
lolli |
they don't matter if the ext isn't loaded |
| 23:00 |
ironm |
it looks like I have deleted to much stuff *g* |
| 23:01 |
ironm |
I have deleted whole lines .. |
| 23:01 |
lolli |
you deleted the full extlist line? |
| 23:02 |
ironm |
yes .. all extensions I have installed has gone |
| 23:03 |
lolli |
exceptionally *bad* idea ... gratz :) |
| 23:03 |
ironm |
and .. OF COURSE .. I didn't make any copy of this file *g* |
| 23:04 |
lolli |
probably you don't need dbal nor enetcache anyway ;) |
| 23:04 |
ironm |
another question .. what .js scripts do you use? .. die original ones from typo3-src? ###typo3_src-4.3.3/typo3/contrib/scriptaculous |
| 23:05 |
ironm |
well .. I can install all exentsions again . it is just a local testsite |
| 23:05 |
ironm |
die = the *lol* |
| 23:05 |
lolli |
in FE we base most of our js stuff on jquery |
| 23:06 |
ironm |
well .. I guess it is a special extension . right? (jquery) |
| 23:06 |
lolli |
it's a js framework |
| 23:07 |
ironm |
debian typo3 packages have a link to javascripts/scriptaculous dir ... there are NO .js files from typo3_src-4.3.3 |
| 23:08 |
lolli |
there's probably some ext for it, but we embed it in our tmpl extensions manually to have a better controll about version updates (we need several jquery additions anyway) |
| 23:08 |
ironm |
so first I should install jquery .. looks like :-) |
| 23:09 |
lolli |
ironm, you just need jquery if you need much js handling .... |
| 23:09 |
lolli |
remember: only use / install what you really need ;) |
| 23:10 |
ironm |
well .. what I need now is a kind of working feuser_register plugin |
| 23:10 |
lolli |
for the debian stuff: i've not used the debian typo3 packages for a long time. i even don't know who actually maintains them |
| 23:10 |
ironm |
I don't know if sr_feuser_registesr would work after deinstalling dbal and installing of jquery |
| 23:11 |
ironm |
Christian Wetzel or similar name |
| 23:11 |
lolli |
sr_feuser_register _does_ work without dbal! |
| 23:11 |
ironm |
hmm ... |
| 23:11 |
ironm |
I will install it again .. |
| 23:11 |
lolli |
and you should only install some jquery stuff if you need it |
| 23:12 |
ironm |
for what I could need jquery e.g. ? |
| 23:14 |
lolli |
a javascript framework (like jquery, mootools or extjs) helps you to develop nifty js stuff ... for a simple site you don't need it ;) |
| 23:14 |
ironm |
well .. after my manual changes to localphp.conf I am not able to install already installed extensions ... |
| 23:14 |
ironm |
so I don't need jquery first .. |
| 23:15 |
lolli |
ironm, i have the feeling you should get used to basic typo3 stuff first and start with advanced things later on ;) |
| 23:16 |
ironm |
I have to reinstall typo3 .. it will take less time than looking why the GUI is "confused" now |
| 23:16 |
ironm |
YES lolli *ggg* |
| 23:17 |
ironm |
most people didn't use the .deb packages but just installed the sources by hand |
| 23:17 |
ironm |
most I spoke to .. |
| 23:21 |
ironm |
thanks a lot for you help and hints lolli :-) .. I will let you know how the enetcache installation worked for me |
| 23:21 |
ironm |
+r |
| 23:22 |
lolli |
ironm, enetcache won't make you system faster magicallyy |
| 23:22 |
lolli |
it's more meant as an api to cache certain elements that are coded to take advantage of it ... |
| 23:23 |
ironm |
I want just to check only if enetcache will allow me to make FE user registration .. because sr_feuser_register don't work |
| 23:23 |
lolli |
at your current state, it's probably not an extension you need ... |
| 23:24 |
lolli |
it will not help you with your registration! |
| 23:24 |
lolli |
thats a very differnent issue ;) |
| 23:24 |
ironm |
well .. I have to check if my typo3_4.3-4.3.3-src.deb works |
| 23:25 |
ironm |
oh .. I thought I can use enetcache instead of sr_feuser_regisgter .. ANYWAY I can test if the installation works |
| 23:26 |
lolli |
nope, enetcache does something very different than fe user registration ... scroll up and read our conversation again ;) |
| 23:26 |
ironm |
so what do use instead of sr_feuser_register lolli ? |
