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08:26 samyboy Hi, have the feeling the the install tool uses converta with wrong arguments order. man convert says: "convert <input_file> <params> <output_file>" but the install tools launches as "convert <params> <input_file> <output_file>". What am I missing?
08:35 Ramosa so what does it mean that typo3 is under GPL? All modifications and modules I make I must make open source?
08:41 PiMB morning
08:50 Ramosa as long as I don't release my modifications, but only _use_ them (for our CMS/website) can I do it without releasing sources?
08:56 PiMB morning all
08:57 PiMB Quick question.
08:57 PiMB A page with a dozen typolinks generate via $this->cObj->filelink
08:58 PiMB links are correct and nice, but links are not indexed by index search.
08:58 PiMB why not? ;)
09:00 Ramosa what's so quick about it
09:00 PiMB well..
09:00 PiMB asked the question in about 42 sec.
09:00 PiMB so it's rather quick.
09:01 Ramosa trying to get in guinness?
09:01 PiMB sure, why not :)
09:02 PiMB well might not be the quickest..
09:02 samyboy Ramosa, about the extensions, I think it's up to you to judge: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins
09:02 PiMB I was hoping to get a quick answer..
09:02 PiMB maybe I should have started with
09:02 PiMB okay, quick answer:
09:02 PiMB ;)
09:05 Ramosa ahh, i thought it was in order to cause the least nuisance..
09:05 Ramosa samyboy, gpl even as a faq is still for lawyers :-p
09:06 samyboy This is how I understand it: If your work is usable without typo3, then licence it as you wish. othewise, it has to be gpled.
09:07 samyboy This is how I do: If my work is useful and nicely coded, then it has to be gpled :)
09:14 kotelette /msg NickServ identify hagenuk
09:15 kotelette oops
09:15 kotelette fast pwd change :-D
09:15 PiMB :D
09:22 Ramosa now why would anyone want to steal your nick? :)
09:23 kotelette maybe if he's wearing sideburns too (Kotelette: german for sideburns)
09:25 Prot0 ppl do unfortunately
09:33 Ramosa Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed.
09:33 Ramosa - Mark Twain
09:38 Denjerek Lo all.
09:39 Denjerek I have a page structure where my root page (Called 'Home') is a shortcut to an inner page (Called 'Home'), so that the 'Home' page can be part of the natural page heirarchy.
09:39 Denjerek However when I hit my top level URL, RealURL (Rightfully) appends /home/ to the URL
09:39 Denjerek is there any google-safe way to get RealURL to not do this?
09:39 Prot0 set a 301 redirect
09:40 Prot0 (if it doesnt do that already automatically
09:40 PiMB either / to home or /home to /
09:40 PiMB but beware of looping.
09:40 Prot0 eeeevil
09:41 samyboy kotelette, cotelette = french for "lamb chop"
09:41 kotelette yes that's also coorect :-)
09:41 PiMB samyboy that's the explanation I know.
09:41 PiMB So it's a piece of meat with sideburns..
09:41 kotelette but i think the pronounciation is different in german
09:42 kotelette the lamb chop is not spoken with the trailing e
09:42 Bluespuke morning
09:42 kotelette hmm, a hairy piece of meat ... maybe i should rethink about my nick :-)
09:43 Ramosa well, you just changed your password, it's time of changes :-p
09:43 PiMB Well, I've never seen you in person. Might suit you ;)
09:44 samyboy Don't think about how people watch you. Just live as yourself.
09:46 kotelette :-)
09:46 Ramosa it's better than meatloaf
09:46 PiMB :)
09:47 PiMB read: raw peace of meat with long greasy hair
09:47 Thasmo Good morning! Is it okay to put an abstract model into the Model directory? (Abstract<Model>.php)
09:47 Ramosa the worst dish you can do of meat is what in danish is called krebinet or karbonade. i think it translates to pork patty in english :)
09:47 Thasmo Regarding Extbase of course. :>
09:48 Ramosa yup.. porkpatty > meatloaf > kotelette
10:01 kotelette btw. whats the fastest way to get the simple bodytext from a column in TS (without the div an p tags added by typo)?
10:01 kotelette i tried wrap = | but that's still adding these
10:07 Denjerek I'm sure there's a way to set it in the RealURL config rather than using a 301
10:07 Denjerek Just... not sure how.
10:07 Denjerek In fact I'm sure I've done it before , I just can't remember where!
10:08 PiMB If you find out. let me know mate
10:08 kotelette i just found it here: http://www.typo3.net/index.php?id=54&action=list_post&code_numbering=0&tid=&page=
10:09 kotelette the example from wunschtacho at the top works for me
10:09 kotelette i'm replacing a marker using that renderObject from the CONTENT
11:00 compojoom is there any easy way to find out the user_id when using eid for ajax calls?
11:00 compojoom what is the easiest way to have the TSFE object in eid?
11:00 compojoom any ideas?
11:20 Ramosa i just learned that TYPO3 is a mission from god :-p
11:23 Thasmo You didn't know? Guess what the TYPO3 default install tool password is. ;o)
11:23 Ramosa jesus?
11:24 Ramosa ahh joh316
11:24 Thasmo No, 'joh316' for The Bible vers John 3,16
11:24 Ramosa so much for being "religiously neutral" i guess
11:24 Ramosa so what does the verse say
11:25 Thasmo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16
11:25 Thasmo But I guess there must be a better version of this - it sounds a bit different compared to german.
11:25 Ramosa i bet kasper is more happy that i'm reading this verse than if I donated him $100 :)
11:25 Thasmo Uh, well - najh, it sound fine. xD
11:25 Ramosa i'm always alert when someone preaches to me
11:27 Thasmo It's worth having at least one ear listening to it. ;o)
11:27 Ramosa are you a preacher too? :)
11:27 PiMB_ only for TYPO3 ;)
11:27 Thasmo Not really - but believing in god. Hint: Not believing the church. ;oP
11:28 Ramosa well, I understand you have to be relgious to give away your software to strangers :)
11:28 Ramosa but asking someone to "check out your religion" or asking for some money for it is same deal to me
11:28 Ramosa except the first is voluntary of course :-p
11:31 Thasmo It's your decision. ;o)
11:33 Ramosa I'm always searching for the catch ;)
11:33 PiMB_ No catch with TYPO3
11:34 Thasmo Is the catch "der Haken" in German, like "Wo ist der Haken?" ?
11:37 many ist an der stelle zumindest so gemeint
11:38 compojoom can I use ajax withough relaying on eidß
11:38 compojoom ?
11:39 teppi|work compojoom, yes why not? depends on what you wanna do ..
11:40 compojoom I must call an extension in my eid class and this works so far, but I see that the extension I'm calling doesn't work, because it is looking for the TSFE object and it is not there
11:41 Thasmo You can load the TSFE in the eid script...
11:42 compojoom yep, I've seen some examples of this
11:42 Thasmo At least I think ...
11:44 Thasmo But if you need the TSFE you should imho just use a default FE plugin and no eid script.
11:44 Thasmo So you could disable HTML output on ajax calls.
11:48 Thasmo You can do this setting config.disableAllHeaderCode = 1
11:59 compojoom Thasmo: if I use a FE plugin I can not use ajax anymore, or can I?
12:05 Thasmo Sure, you can. You could send the AJAX request to a normal TYPO3 page and add a parameter like &ajax=1 and in the backend you configure TYPO3 to not output the HTML head etc.
12:10 jbaptiste_j If I create a TT news plugin asking it to display any news that does NOT have category FOO_BAR it will fail to display news which have NO category at all. is that a bug or me using it wrong?
12:10 jbaptiste_j I'm still using TT_news 2.5.2
12:31 Prot0 jbaptiste_j: not sure, I've seen this before
12:31 Prot0 as a workaround you could create a dummy category and add it by default through page TSconfig
12:31 Prot0 or look in tt_news' source whats going on there
13:03 TheDon__ small template issue, my template I am included iframe
13:17 TheDon__ I need to show I frame to only menu item
13:19 jbaptiste_j Prot0 tonight I'll updat
13:19 jbaptiste_j e TT_news and see what happens
13:28 atmos4 hi
13:29 atmos4 anyone managed to get -shdaow working with gifbuilder?
13:29 atmos4 I want to add a dropshadow to a 32bit png
13:29 atmos4 using imagemagick I can simply create the dropshadow using this commandline:
13:29 atmos4 convert slcover200.png -background black -shadow 80x3+5+5 shadow03.png
13:30 atmos4 but using gifbuilder SCALE and oarams that's not working
13:32 Denjerek I thought dropshadows required IM
13:32 Denjerek ?
13:36 atmos4 well it is using im6
13:37 marcuslind Having problems with the cc_awstats extension. I've set a directory for it, I've created an empty .log file. I've configured it to my URL. In the Template I set config.stat, config.stat_apache and config.stat_apache_logfile. I wrote the whole URL to the logfile.
13:37 marcuslind When going to "AWSTAT" in the Admin menu and pressing my logfile I get an error though
13:37 marcuslind "Setup ('/var/www/emvege/typo3conf/ext/cc_awstats/awstats/awstats.conf' file, web server or permissions) may be wrong."
13:37 marcuslind The folder got 777, the subfolders and files got 777 too
13:37 marcuslind Anyone know what's wrong?
13:38 Prot0 did you just chmod or did you check the rights as well?
13:39 marcuslind Both
13:39 marcuslind I checked through Filezilla
13:39 marcuslind and I chmod through terminal
13:40 Prot0 so the rights are actually set to 777? :] Not some problem that owner is not right and your not allowed to change the rights?
13:41 marcuslind That was the problem at first but I had to use sudo in terminal
13:42 marcuslind wait 1 sec I might have missed 1 folder, just noticed.
13:42 marcuslind 5min
13:42 Prot0 lol
13:42 Prot0 chown with chmod 644 would be better i guess though
13:44 marcuslind It seems as if I have to give awstats.conf permission (which I have already)
13:44 marcuslind that's what it's complaining about
13:44 marcuslind do I need to give the folders that too?
13:44 marcuslind or only the file itself
13:44 Prot0 777 = exec all
13:44 Prot0 :D
13:44 Prot0 but for testing it is fine
13:45 Prot0 i guess
13:45 marcuslind The error above says cc_awstats/awstats/awstats.conf got a permission error
13:45 marcuslind I've set 777 on the awstats.conf
13:45 marcuslind the error remain.
13:46 Prot0 is the full path correct?
13:46 marcuslind What do you mean by "correct" ?
13:46 Prot0 the file is actually here:
13:47 Prot0 /var/www/emvege/typo3conf/ext/cc_awstats/awstats/awstats.conf
13:47 marcuslind ye
13:47 marcuslind it is.
13:47 marcuslind Error: awstats failed to create directory DirData (DirData="/var/www/emvege/awstat/.awstats-data/http://dedserv1098.levonline.com/emvege/", CreateDirDataIfNotExists=1)
13:47 marcuslind and then the above error comes
13:48 marcuslind "Setup ('var/www.../awstat.conf' file, web server or permissions) may be wrong.
13:48 marcuslind "
13:51 jbaptiste_j it looks like you need to make the directory writable by the linux group that includes Apache, I would guess www-data
13:52 marcuslind jbaptiste_j: I never said the usergroup was www-data?
13:57 Prot0 compare the owner settings with other directories
13:58 jbaptiste_j strange that this rootline includes a URL with http://
13:59 jbaptiste_j rootline I mean filepath
13:59 marcuslind jbaptiste_j: That's the URL of the site that the logfile is connected to.
13:59 marcuslind When you configurate the logfile you chose a URL for it to work together with
13:59 marcuslind I've removed the "http://" and set "www.", didnt work better.
14:02 jbaptiste_j don't you need to rather create a file called .awstats-data and in this file type a line that includes your url (using nano for example)
14:04 marcuslind /emvege/awstat is both two folders created by me. The awstats extension could successfully create a subfolder in that directory since the permissions were working. The subfolder it created was .awstats-data. So that folder is NOT created by me, that was created by the extension
14:04 marcuslind it seems that now it cant create any folders below that folder in the tree-structure
14:05 marcuslind because from .awstats-data and below the Admin/Group/Owner is different
14:06 marcuslind LLOL
14:06 marcuslind its now working
14:06 marcuslind ...
14:06 jbaptiste_j needed to restart apache ?
14:07 marcuslind Ive cleared the TYPO3 cache 10000 times. I tried to set the "URL" to the file to only "emvege" instead of "www.dedserv1098.levonline.com/emvege". Also I cleared awstats cache. There is a button "Sometimes you need to clear AWstats cache when upgrading"
14:07 marcuslind that solved it.
14:07 marcuslind So it seems that clearing the TYPO3 cache wasnt enough
14:08 marcuslind you had to clear AWstats cache from its own "clear cache" function
14:08 marcuslind :S
14:10 marcuslind ok i narrowed it down more. It didnt have anything to do with cache
14:10 marcuslind it was the name of the URL
14:10 marcuslind It says "Exempel: www.mydomain.com,mydomain.com,sub.mydomain.com". Weird since that's how I typed it and that doesnt work!
14:15 kotelette maybe someone could help me with preventing my wrap from being printed when the content is empty, i tried: marks.PULLQUOTE.wrap.ifEmpty =
14:16 kotelette but it's still wrapping
14:19 Prot0 i tink it should be marks.PULLQUOTE.wrap.if.isFalse
14:20 kotelette thx, but it's still there even after deleting cache ;-)
14:24 derchiller hello
14:28 Prot0 kotelette: bah, havent tried it like that though
14:28 Prot0 created this today hehe
14:28 Prot0 http://snippets.typo3.org/c/236/
14:28 Prot0 together with PiMB ;-]
14:29 atmos4 how do I get gifbuilder to output alpha tranparent background with png?
14:36 marcuslind Anyone recognize this error? I'm editing the rights of a editor-user. When Saving I get the following error: "2: SQL error: 'Unknown column 'fileopers_perms' in 'field list'' (be_groups:1)"
14:37 marcuslind Feels like Error-day today!
14:37 marcuslind So the problem is saving the rights of a user.
14:37 Prot0 marcuslind:
14:38 Prot0 go to your install tool
14:38 Prot0 and do a db compare
14:38 Prot0 your prolly forgot to update some ext's columns
14:38 marcuslind It's running on 4.3.0
14:38 marcuslind so maybe
14:42 Prot0 well the error is pretty clear
14:42 Prot0 its missing a column in your be_users db table
14:45 zed_devil hi all
14:46 marcuslind Prot0: worked.
14:46 marcuslind :>
14:50 Prot0 ;-]
14:50 Prot0 hi zed_devil
15:09 kotelette tried wrap.required = 1 .... empty content (no rows for this page) is still wrapped
16:45 kotelette can anyone tell me what is state of the art for using md5 passwords for fe_users? (v4.3)
16:45 kotelette atm these are saved as normal text
16:46 kotelette and the ext danp_md5fepassword is marked as obsolete
16:46 PiMB_ and what should be not empty for it not to wrap?
16:46 kotelette i installed the t3sec_saltedpw but thats not changing anything even if i use the update button
16:51 BejjWrk hi PiMB_
16:52 BejjWrk bye PiMB_ (time to go home)
16:54 PiMB_ Hey bej
16:54 PiMB_ bye bejjwrk :)
17:04 PiMB_ question (again)
17:04 PiMB_ I have a page with correct filelinks rendered from an extension
17:04 PiMB_ via $this->cObj->filelinks
17:04 PiMB_ but these are not indexed.
17:04 PiMB_ (page is btw, but only the title of the list)
17:05 PiMB_ not the list itself.
17:05 PiMB_ is there any way to make this happen?
17:08 Fabian--- anyone know a good solution for making an online magazine (page flip style), not nessecarily TYPO3-based?
17:16 Fabian--- I just found this page with some solutions http://flashspeaksactionscript.com/flip-a-page-with-these-flash-page-flippers/ but if anyone has a better one, please let me know.
17:22 bipo hi all ... just a quick question ... simulatestatic vs. realurl vs. cooluri ... what's the best, most flexible? - I tend to cooluri
17:25 milestone hi all
17:25 milestone i am failing to map a table with templavoila
17:28 milestone and i am failing to find a solution with google
17:30 milestone i am a total typo3 noob
17:43 Denjerek Anyone know how you can get static methods to be parsed in "" or {} in PHP?
17:43 Denjerek right now I'm having to escape completely
17:43 Denjerek and I don't like that as the myriad of . and ' gets me confused :)
17:43 Denjerek EG:
17:43 Denjerek $str = "this works ok {$this->something} yes."; // OK
17:44 Denjerek $str = "this works ok {someStaticClass::something} yes."; // Not OK.
17:51 Fabian--- Denyerec if you are using that code in an object you could create a method which calls the static methods
17:53 Denjerek Hmm
17:53 Denjerek and create a local method to wrap the static one ?
17:53 Denjerek I think in that instance it is easier to escape.
17:53 Fabian--- ye
17:53 Fabian--- but I would recommend just to use an editor with syntax highlighting and not get confused
17:54 Fabian--- and use ' .
18:02 Denjerek Yeah I've replaced everything with dropouts now
18:02 Denjerek Just fiddling with the highlighting schema to see if I can get ' and " to show different colours
18:03 Denjerek as '" and '" are hard to spot
18:03 Denjerek :)
18:10 jbaptiste_j I've upgraded typo3 and now my links in the RTE are not rendered in FE !!!
19:52 kinea is it possible to show non-translated content elements (with the standard language) on a page with translations.
19:53 kinea so i can translate only a few, and show the rest in standard language?
19:53 kinea f.e. all the images, i dont want to click on them to copy to the new language, cause i dont have titles which must be translated.
19:56 Tsoots the frontend localization guide will probably tell you
19:56 Tsoots available at typo3.org
20:05 TheDon_ Hi can any body help me
20:07 TheDon_ I have a menu that menu has pages if I click the menu I am loading one image below the menu
20:08 TheDon_ but if I click sub pages or item in selected menu image invisible
20:26 kinea Tsoots: thanx for the hint. the FLG is very good. you saved my day.
20:26 kinea by the way:
20:26 kinea config.sys_language_overlay = 1
20:26 kinea config.sys_language_softMergeIfNotBlank = tt_content:image, tt_content:header
20:26 kinea was the solution
20:33 TheDon_ can anybody give me solution
21:49 Denyerec What are people using for simple contact forms these days?
21:58 Francesco___ Hi, i need some suggestion on hosting suited for little and not trafficated typo3 sites. Something ala webfaction, about 10-15 $ at months, shell access, capability to modify php memory, php execution time and php file size. Thanks
22:03 Denyerec Francesco___ most places don't let you configure execution and memory for $10 a month.
22:03 Denyerec However Dreamhost runs Typo3 just fine.
22:03 Denyerec You could ther there.
22:04 Denyerec *try
22:09 Francesco___ i asked to webfaction, they grant memory for appllication process and let me to set up ph pmeory by htaccess file. But i hoped to have some alternative and feedback here.
22:09 Francesco___ anyway thanks for answering
22:10 Denyerec Be sure to idle here.
22:10 Denyerec Someone else may have a more helpful answer :)
22:12 Francesco___ last question, is GD library enough for thumbnail generation ? or do i need imagemagick or grafikmagik ?
22:18 Denyerec Ummm.
22:18 Denyerec I've never tried to work without IM
22:18 Denyerec So I can't say for sure.
22:18 Denyerec But I *think* you can get away with just GD
22:50 TheEternalAbyss hello
23:06 Denyerec Anyone awake tonight ?
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