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08:28 PiMB morning all
08:51 ndee if you had to index word, excel, PDFs, etc, which search engine would you use for typo3?
08:52 PiMB I believe indexed_search could do it.
08:52 PiMB but I would say that depends on the amount being indexed.
08:52 PiMB won't use indexed search if site is to large.
08:52 ndee PiMB: it's for an intranet with some documents. I'd say the data that has to be indexed is around 1GB
08:53 ndee max. 1GB
08:53 BejjWrk grr brb
08:53 BejjWrk there we go
08:53 PiMB well, I know Ingo Renner is working on some Solr in TYPO3.
08:53 PiMB not sure how far along they are.
08:53 PiMB but I hear that it's good
08:54 BejjWrk morning PiMB , morning dsa
08:54 PiMB Morning BejjWrk
08:55 ndee PiMB: yes, I've read that too. So I could try indexed_search and if it's not enough, I could still try solr.
08:58 maholtz|WORK morning
09:28 marfola hi
09:29 PiMB morning
09:29 marfola i have a question
09:29 marfola I use the realurl plugin.
09:29 marfola My extensions arent USER_INT. Ive run a search on all my extensions and none are set to no_cache=1
09:30 marfola Im trying to make typo3 send cache control headers (cache private) for some of the pages of my typo3 website. Ive disabled the no_cache flag in each template of my tree. I've set the config.no_cache = 0 in the main, top most template. I've set the flag SendCacheHeaders=1 in the main, top most template.
09:30 marfola The unmapped url returns a cache control:private header. The mapped urls return the following header: Cache Control: private Pragma:no cache Expires: 1981.
09:30 marfola Who is setting the no_cache control?
09:30 marfola Any suggestions. I'm sure I've missed something basic.
10:20 coolguy hi there. is someone familiar with typo3 4.3.0 ?
10:31 coolguy hello. iam using typo3 4.3.0 and it seems that the image scaling does not work properly. when i add an text with image content element and add a image.
10:32 coolguy when i set the size to 150 px in the properties
10:32 coolguy i image gets not resized
10:32 coolguy its always in original size
10:35 ycas_away hello. i want to have gifs as separetors between my horizontal HMENU; any hint how to format them (like align or so)? Or is there a way to use GMENU with a dynamical width, as it is a horizontal menu? Thx in advance
10:36 Denjerek coolguy: have you included the static template "CSS Styled Content"
10:36 Denjerek ycas_away: I'd just style those in with CSS
10:39 ycas_away Denjerk: ok, thank you!
10:41 Denjerek If you need an example, check out the styling on www.cfaccessories.com
10:41 Denjerek I did a similar thing there on the top menu.
10:51 ycas_away Denjerek: great design. and thats the way I am trying. thx for the link!
10:55 coolguy yes its included
10:55 coolguy it all works fine instead of this
11:13 Georges_Abitbol I want in an extension plugin to get a constant from another extension. How could I do it ?
11:16 WinstonS hi.
11:32 ycas #join #macosx
11:37 WinstonS i'm using typo3 4.3.1 on ubuntu 9.10, apache 2.2.12, php 5.2.10, mysql 5.1. I just did a fresh install, install tool is all green, i can login to the backend as admin, but it seems i cannot create any pages or import any template. is there anything i am missing?
11:47 Denjerek Is this your first time using Typo3?
11:49 Echidna hi
11:50 WinstonS Denjerek, yes, it is.
11:51 WinstonS i'm trying to work with the tutorials and documentation, but i fail at the first step already. it just does not seem to create any page, or even the page tree
11:52 Echidna this mysql db i use with typo3 has ANSI_QUOTES activated, which causes queries like [SELECT pi_flexform FROM `tt_content` WHERE uid="3"] to fail
11:52 Echidna is there a way to make typo3 not use double quotation marks for strings?
11:53 Denjerek WinstonS: a LOT of Typo3 documentation is stinking old.
11:53 Denjerek Including a lot of the absolutely key tutorials.
11:53 Denjerek this is a most unfortunate facet of working with Typo3, they really try to make it hard to find the good document :)
11:53 Denjerek Do you have the tutorial "Futuristic template building" ?
11:54 Denjerek (because, if you weren't aware, we're in the future now! :))
11:54 WinstonS uhm, so far i tried "modern template building". is the futuristic one on typo3.org also?
11:56 WinstonS ah, got it.
11:58 Denjerek Right
11:58 Denjerek Forget modern.
11:58 Denjerek think of the future.
11:58 Denjerek you'll thank me in the longrun.
11:59 WinstonS and this is where it fails again. my page tree right now is the globe "New TYPO3 website". it wont let me add any page.
11:59 Denjerek The modern tempplate building is all about subparts and markers
11:59 Denjerek Right
11:59 WinstonS i thank you already, any hint is appreciated :)
11:59 Denjerek If you click on the globe, you should get a popup menu?
12:00 WinstonS yep, i go to new page (inside), fill in the page title, untick "hide page", save, and nothing.
12:01 WinstonS (i installed both typo3_src and the dummy page source)
12:02 WinstonS typo3_src resides in /var/wwwtools/typo3_src, the dummy page in /var/www/typo01 . symlinks are set.
12:02 Denjerek Do you see a small plus sign next to the globe?
12:03 WinstonS yep, i tried to unfold, the page does not show up. tried to clear the caches, relogin etc. nothing works.
12:03 Denjerek I can take a really quick look if you PM me a backend login.
12:03 Denjerek Echidna: I'm not sure about that. I think there's a DBAL to accomodate different configs, though?
12:03 WinstonS the dev box is not connected to the internet :/
12:04 WinstonS (it is, but it cannot be reaced from outside, to be more precise)
12:05 Denjerek Hmm.
12:05 Denjerek I'm trying to imagine the steps I go through.
12:05 WinstonS thank you
12:05 Echidna Denjerek: do you know something changed in that area between 4.2.9 and 4.3? because i dont get those errors in 4.3 afaik
12:05 Denjerek but without having the buttons in front of me to click...
12:05 Denjerek Echidna: I'm afraid I don't. I have never had to meddle with the DB layer
12:05 WinstonS heh, yeah, i know that feeling ;)
12:05 Denjerek WinstonS: what happens if you click the template module ?
12:06 WinstonS the template page shows up, no template installed. the table is empty.
12:07 WinstonS i tried to import some free templates, but it failed also. "preview" did not seem to work also.
12:09 WinstonS does the typo3 database user need grant privileges?
12:16 Echidna Denjerek. ok, 4.3 doesn't seem to have this problem
12:21 Denjerek WinstonS: not usually I don't think.
12:21 Denjerek WinstonS: The "standard" templates are a headache.
12:21 Denjerek does Futuristic Template Bulding (FTB) work through creating your first page ?
12:21 Denjerek I cannot rememeber.
12:22 Denjerek Maybe you could screenshare with me ?
12:22 Denjerek i recommend also looking at your apache , php and mysql error logs
12:23 Denjerek Just in case there is something lower-down that's causing an issue.
12:40 ycas can i use after = &nbsp;</div> afterImg = fileadmin/templates/vwe/trennlinie.gif
12:41 ycas for a single object? i want to have a nbsp; before the gif. somehow, it does not work
12:43 WinstonS Denjerek, sorry for the delay. i did check the logs by now, nothing shows up. screenshare is not possible, i'm afraid.
12:45 Denjerek Well WinstonS, I can try and help you this evening when I get home, but I am on site until 1730hrs GMT
12:45 Denjerek Without access to either your screen, or a clean Typo3 install, I can't think what to suggest.
12:45 Denjerek You are logging in as an administrator, correct?
12:46 WinstonS to the backend? yep. using the default admin : password credentials
12:46 Denjerek Can you link me to the FTB doc?
12:46 Denjerek Preferably the online version
12:46 Denjerek (No OO here)
12:46 Denjerek ycas: link to the site please?
12:55 ycas Denjarek: http://feuerungsleistungsregelung.info/branchen/
12:55 ycas root lvl is hidden
12:56 ycas but i am supposed to create those separators, changing on hover etc.
12:57 ycas i know there is way to go, but i don't want the grafics 'sticking' to the menu entries
13:03 Denjerek YIKES
13:03 Denjerek ok don't open that site in opera.
13:03 Denjerek Or firefox.
13:04 Denjerek Or IE
13:04 Denjerek Ok so
13:04 Denjerek Um
13:04 Denjerek do you have a JPG of how the site should look when it's finished?
13:04 ycas yea, a coworker messed around while i was absent
13:04 ycas yes
13:05 Denjerek Ok, post the screenshot.
13:05 Denjerek Then go smack the co-worker
13:05 Denjerek ;)
13:06 ycas noob question: how can i send files via irc?
13:06 ycas he's my boss -.-
13:06 Denjerek A link would be preferable
13:06 Denjerek I'm unable to receive files
13:06 Denjerek if you don't want to post a link to channel, PM it to me.
13:06 ycas yea, wait a sec. have to upload it first
13:08 mquintus if you want it fast, set #topnavi {top: 240px;}
13:08 mquintus for the css problem
13:08 ycas thx
13:10 Bluespuke hello
13:11 Bluespuke i've a straneg behaviour :s 'clear all caches' seems to end up in an infinite loop and makes the server freeze for like 1 minute...
13:12 Bluespuke also saving a template ends up nowhere
13:12 Bluespuke someone has some experience with that?
13:12 Denjerek Which browser?
13:13 Denjerek Which version of typo
13:13 Denjerek which browser version
13:13 Bluespuke nevermind, FF, IE, Chrome, Opera ans Safari...
13:13 Bluespuke typo3 4.2.8
13:13 Denjerek Hmm
13:13 Denjerek I've had some odd interface hangups in Opera
13:13 Denjerek where you'll hit save and get a partially rendered BE interface.
13:13 Denjerek But no infinite loops.
13:13 Denjerek (Hey phil)
13:14 WinstonS Denjerek, i enabled extended mysql logging. it looks like the the page is not INSERTed into the database when trying to save it. i've got no clue why, tho.
13:14 Denjerek WinstonS: well that's some progress!
13:14 Denjerek I seem to remember with one version of typo there was an issue with priviliges.
13:14 Denjerek Which MySQL and typo versions are you using ?
13:14 Bluespuke dunno if it's an infinite loop but it seems like it... the server has no response (i also tested with downforeveryoneorjustme.com)
13:15 WinstonS typo3 4.3.1 (most recent stable), mysql 5.1.something (most recent on ubuntu 9.10)
13:15 Denjerek Hmm
13:15 Denjerek do you get an SQL error
13:15 Denjerek or does it simply not appear in the DB?
13:15 WinstonS the typo3 database user has been granted all privileges (without grant) on the typo3 database
13:16 WinstonS it simply does not appear
13:16 Denjerek Did you recurse those changes?
13:16 Denjerek and give it specific access to the tableS?
13:16 WinstonS will try, gimme a sec...
13:16 Denjerek I'm sure I've had this problem before WinstonS, I'm just trying desperately to remember the details!
13:16 WinstonS the typo3 user was able to create the tables while the install tool was running, tho.
13:16 Denjerek Yeah
13:17 Denjerek but it might not have created the *tables* correctly if there was some quirky security set up
13:17 Denjerek *wracks brain*
13:18 ycas Denjerek, thx, but i have no way of uploading the file. i will try to work it out.
13:18 ycas thx so far!
13:19 WinstonS thank you for your hints, Denjerek. i really appreciate
13:19 Denjerek No worries
13:19 Denjerek I remember first trying to use Typo3.
13:19 Denjerek It was a complete bitch.
13:19 WinstonS when saving the pages i see some selects, most likely typo3 session management, but no insert or update and stuff
13:19 Denjerek This is me returning the help I received in here.
13:20 Denjerek Can youc heck your typo3 log ?
13:20 PiMB Denjerek +1 for that!
13:21 WinstonS wow, thanks for the hint. there is some error that wasn't present before. lemme try to figure this out
13:21 Denjerek PiMB: it's only fair :) Ries, PMK and Just2b were very patient :)
13:21 Denjerek (in fact, they still are ;))
13:22 PiMB always are
13:22 WinstonS unfortunately the error looks unrelated to me. it's about clearrtecache.php
13:24 Denjerek hmm.
13:24 WinstonS if i install typo3 and the dummy page, is it supposed to come with a dummy page tree already? or is this empty globe the default?
13:24 Denjerek Yes quite.
13:25 Denjerek right
13:25 Denjerek Typo3 Source is exactly that
13:25 Denjerek it's just the source for the CMS platform
13:25 Denjerek not actually a website.
13:25 Denjerek The dummy site zip/tar is a collection of files that initialises a blank Typo3 site
13:25 Denjerek and in that essence, it's completely blank
13:26 WinstonS heh. and all tutorials i've seen are using some page tree already
13:26 Denjerek I believe your problem is lower down thans imply creating a page tree
13:26 Denjerek as that is typically a trivial operation.
13:26 Denjerek Click... click... done kinda thing.
13:27 WinstonS is there any way to check if mysql on ubuntu is running in strict mode?
13:27 Denjerek You say your log indicates an SQL query was submitted?
13:27 WinstonS i remember some strict mode issues a bit ago.
13:27 Denjerek SELECT @@GLOBAL.sql_mode;
13:27 Denjerek SELECT @@SESSION.sql_mode;
13:28 WinstonS yea, there are some selects on be_session and cache_hash
13:28 WinstonS no inserts
13:28 WinstonS ok, that's what i've thought. the vars are empty, so no strict mode, i guess.
13:28 Denjerek WinstonS: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TYPO3_Installation_on_Ubuntu_9.10
13:28 Denjerek check the MySQL config
13:28 Denjerek there's a note about GRANT
13:30 WinstonS exactly what i did
13:31 Denjerek hmm.
13:31 Denjerek On my local dev, apache is the www user
13:31 Denjerek so all privs are granted to that
13:32 Denjerek Can yuo identify which user is submitting the queries?
13:33 WinstonS it's the typo3 user
13:35 Denjerek WinstonS: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TYPO3_Installation_Basics#SQL_safe_mode
13:35 Denjerek Did youc heck the troubleshooting there?
13:35 Denjerek Look for safe mode specifically
13:36 Denjerek There's also Dmitrys excellent guide: http://dmitry-dulepov.com/fileadmin/e-books/TYPO3_installation_and_upgrade.pdf
13:36 Denjerek OOH WOOOHOOHH
13:36 Denjerek WINSTON!
13:37 Denjerek I just had two ideas.
13:37 Denjerek So quickly it almost hurt.
13:37 Denjerek 1st one: Click the DB Tools module, look for "Check reference index"
13:37 Denjerek 2nd: in the install tool there's an option for um, what's it called, some database thing
13:37 Denjerek option 5 or 6
13:37 Denjerek can't rememeber off my own head.
13:38 Denjerek anyway
13:38 Denjerek in there you can compare the DB with what typo3 is expecting
13:38 Denjerek and it'll tell you if things are messed up.
13:39 Denjerek WinstonS: definately run through the checks in the DB Tools module,.
13:39 WinstonS sql.safe_mode is off, according to php.ini
13:40 WinstonS the reference index is ok, according to the db tool
13:40 WinstonS and the "database things" also
13:41 Denjerek Hmm.
13:41 Denjerek heading home for lunch
13:41 Denjerek will check my local dev server
13:41 Denjerek brb
13:41 WinstonS bon appetit, and thanks again :)
13:58 Denyerec Et voila
13:58 WinstonS wb
13:58 WinstonS now that was a short way home
13:58 Denyerec Mit food.
13:58 Denyerec 4 mninutes
13:58 WinstonS bon appetit
13:58 Denyerec I even had chance to cook.
13:59 WinstonS wow. it's about 15 times yours for me ;)
14:00 PiMB Cook == popped_into_microwace
14:01 gerards try { microwave -> cook() }
14:01 WinstonS *lol*
14:01 WinstonS yep. exactly the same here
14:01 gerards catch { exploding_microwave;}
14:01 PiMB explode( microwave );
14:01 WinstonS try { microwave->put( cd ); }
14:01 PiMB actually funny
14:01 WinstonS looks funny. but ruins the microwave
14:02 PiMB I had an explode( "\n",$body ); the other day
14:02 PiMB which in turn became $a_bodyParts
14:02 gerards $pieces = splice( self );
14:02 WinstonS i'm just glad it wasn'T $a_smellyFarts...
14:03 Denyerec Fortunately I didn't fork()
14:03 Denyerec annnyway :)
14:03 PiMB little programmers humor, designer sitting next to me didn't think it was that funny
14:03 Denyerec I presume you did the DB Tools integrity check ?
14:03 WinstonS yep. all fine according to the checks
14:03 WinstonS i cleared the cache_hash table, no results.
14:04 WinstonS i disabled some php modules to get rid of "interference"... nothing
14:04 WinstonS i'm quite clueless :/
14:05 Denyerec given that it's a local dev server
14:05 Denyerec can you rule out SQL permission by giving the typo user root access?
14:05 WinstonS good idea. do you think using the install tool to set the database user to "root" is sufficient?
14:08 gerards sounds complicated Denyerec WinstonS. AFAIK, if install tool is happy with the DB connection, then it should work (the simple fact). Perhaps you should work from there....?
14:12 WinstonS changing the database user to "root" didn't change the issue
14:12 WinstonS gerards, install tool is "all green"
14:13 WinstonS for both "root" and the typo3 database user
14:13 BejjWrk WinstonS: are you pointing to an already existing database ?
14:14 WinstonS yep. i created a database for typo3 and used the install tool to create the tables
14:14 WinstonS according to the tool 44 tables were created
14:15 WinstonS my sql "workflow": create typo3 database (utf8 charset, if that matters) ; create typo3 user; grant all on typo3 database.* to typo3 user;
14:15 BejjWrk i used to get errors before when trying to make installtool connect to an existing db, worked fine when allowing it to create the db itself, tho, as you already have the db created, just edit the localconf.php to reflect the db settings ?
14:16 Denyerec gerards -basically when he tries to create a page, nothing happens
14:16 WinstonS the db settings look "ok" to me . i tested connecting using the mysql cli and the typo3 user, this works.
14:17 WinstonS if i create a page in some way a database "insert" should happen, shouldn't it?
14:19 gerards WinstonS: yes. you should see a new record in the "pages" table.
14:19 gerards WinstonS: you should also see a new page in the page tree (the middle iframe in the Typo3 Backend (BE))
14:20 gerards WinstonS: if install tool is "all green" then I think its good to assume that the db connection is fine. (Denyerec, you agree?)
14:20 Denyerec Connection, yes
14:20 gerards if so, it must be something else.
14:20 Denyerec permissions, not necessarily
14:20 Denyerec I've certainly had an issue with a GRANT thing before
14:21 gerards if he created the DB structure using install root, is it safe to assume that permissions will be set correctly?
14:21 gerards if he created the DB structure using install tool, is it safe to assume that permissions will be set correctly?
14:21 WinstonS i think so
14:21 gerards if so then it must be something else.
14:22 WinstonS yep. i've just got no clue about what else it could be.
14:22 gerards its got to be something else.
14:22 gerards you created a page but nothing appears in the BE.
14:22 BejjWrk unless something went wrong during the creation of the tables and default population
14:23 gerards can you create a user?
14:23 WinstonS gimme a sec, i'll try
14:23 gerards BejjWrk: if install tool is all green, then the tables should be created correctly.
14:24 gerards Denyerec was right about the install tool. It should be a good first step.
14:25 gerards maybe localconf.php is read-only. :)
14:26 WinstonS no, i cannot create users also
14:26 WinstonS and localconf is g+w for group www-data
14:29 gerards WinstonS: I'm going to check my install tool. :) see if there is any permissions check there.
14:29 WinstonS again, there's no insert statement in the mysql log. which confuses me
14:30 WinstonS thanks gerards
14:31 gerards in the install tool, under "Database Analyser", did you try to create "admin" user?
14:31 gerards also can you try to "import" (also under "Database Analyser")? these steps should help confirm if you have write permissions to your DB.
14:32 WinstonS i tried this a while ago (another attempt, did a clean install in the mean time), no success. i can login to the backend as admin tho, so the "admin" user exists
14:32 Bluespuke maybe i'm annoying but this s***s... anyone has an idea why clear all caches and saving templates crashes/freezes the server? i tried in several browsers and OSs and also with downforeveryoneorjustme.com... (typo3 4.2.8)
14:33 gerards what was the error WinstonS?
14:33 WinstonS no error.
14:34 gerards oh. no error but also no success?
14:34 WinstonS yep. the "new page (inside)" jumps back to start when clicking "save". no error, but the page does not exist also
14:35 gerards oh ok.
14:35 gerards can you try to go to install tool and go to "Database Analyser",
14:35 gerards and click on "import" (Dump static data)?
14:36 WinstonS i use suhosin to harden php, in case this matters. the install tool is "green" for this also.
14:36 WinstonS ok, will try
14:36 gerards oh? really? hmmm..... can you try to disable that (Suhosin)?
14:37 WinstonS select tables to import: static_template, rows: 61 (table exists) | static_tsconfig_help, rows: 117 (table exists)
14:37 WinstonS will try to disable suhosin, but no idea if it can be easily disabled
14:37 gerards can you try to truncate static_tsconfig_help?
14:37 WinstonS how?
14:38 gerards :) sounds really bad. "can you try to truncate static_tsconfig_help?" hahahaha!
14:38 WinstonS who needs help anyways ;)
14:38 gerards hahahah!
14:38 gerards you can use, say, phpMyAdmin,
14:39 WinstonS "imported 'static_tsconfig_help'" rows: 117
14:39 gerards i guess you can do something like delete from static_ts_config_help where true.
14:39 gerards can you see if there are really 117 rows in static_tsconfig_help?
14:39 WinstonS according to install tool the table will be dropped before import anyways
14:39 WinstonS lemme check...
14:41 WinstonS "describe static_tsconfig_help" -> 7 rows in set. hm.
14:41 WinstonS using the mysql cli and the typo3 database user
14:42 gerards don't do "describe"... what ever that does. :) try select count(*) from static_whatever;
14:42 WinstonS 117 it is
14:42 gerards ok. I guess since you emptied static_xxxx and install tool put it back,
14:43 gerards we can conclude that install tool has write privileges.
14:43 WinstonS yep. now i also see the INSERT statement in the database log
14:43 gerards am I correct? you did empty static_xxxx right?
14:43 gerards great.
14:43 gerards nothing wrong with write permissions.
14:43 WinstonS neither create page nor create user generated INSERT or UPDATE statements
14:43 gerards Its got to be something in the PHP code.
14:43 Denyerec Hmmmn
14:43 Denyerec Heading back on site
14:44 Denyerec This is very, very odd.
14:44 gerards something must be silently failing in the BE.
14:44 WinstonS cya, Denjerek. take care.
14:44 Denyerec back in 5
14:44 WinstonS using firefox 3.0.17 as browser
14:44 gerards i doubt its the client side (browser).
14:45 WinstonS me too.
14:45 gerards I suspect PHP is failing very very quietly.
14:45 WinstonS is there any way to enable extended logging or error output in typo3 code?
14:45 maholtz|WORK you have trouble with database permissions?
14:45 gerards if you can find the php log, or turn on php error logging it might help
14:45 WinstonS like setting error_reporting( E_ALL ) somewhere?
14:45 gerards ahhh... maholtz will know.
14:46 gerards WinstonS: that won't work.
14:46 maholtz|WORK perhaps compare localhost vs. 127.0.0.1
14:46 maholtz|WORK thats different on some servers
14:46 maholtz|WORK and cli has different rights than normal mysql user
14:46 WinstonS ok, i will add another grant for 127.0.0.1, but for what we've checked so far database permissions seem to be ok
14:46 WinstonS localconf uses "localhost" as database host also.
14:47 maholtz|WORK install tool database compare is ok too?
14:47 gerards maholtz|WORK: install tool is able to create a table and write data to the table. We conclude that db read-write is fine.
14:47 maholtz|WORK perhaps change it to 127.0.0.1 i would give it a try
14:47 maholtz|WORK hm... and compare database says everything is fine?
14:48 maholtz|WORK did you installed extension phpmyadmin and tried there?
14:48 FloLeBlanc hi all
14:48 FloLeBlanc did someone ever experience a similar error when setting up the cronjob for directmail? <b>Warning</b>: require_once(//t3lib/class.t3lib_div.php) [<a href='function.require-once'>function.require-once</a>]: failed to open stream
14:49 gerards maholtz|WORK: Denyerec asked WinstonS to compare. I guess it should be ok.
14:49 FloLeBlanc I guess there's one slash too many, but how do I remove that one without hacking the code
14:50 gerards WinstonS: there seems to be some kind of patch for Suhosin for Typo3. does it apply to you?
14:50 WinstonS i'm going to install phpmyadmin. what especially should i check?
14:51 WinstonS gerards, dunno. the thread i found was from 2007
14:51 gerards just check that you can write to the pages table form phpmyadmin.
14:52 gerards WinstonS: I really think its suhosin fooling around with the php code (i don't think the DB connection / privileges are the problem).
14:53 gerards but I don't have any experience with suhosin, so I'm just blaming the unknown. :)
14:55 Denjerek Who's suosin
14:55 Denjerek ?
14:55 gerards http://www.hardened-php.net/suhosin/
14:56 gerards oops bbl
14:56 gerards if someone solves this, can someone PM me the solution? I'm pretty curious now....
15:02 WinstonS i removed suhoshin by now. no change
15:05 WinstonS strange enough, phpmyadmin just says "no change"
15:06 WinstonS when trying to insert something into the "page" table
15:06 Denjerek So you basically can't modify the DB
15:06 Denjerek can you dump the perms from the pages table ?
15:06 Denjerek Not the DB
15:06 Denjerek just the pages tabe
15:06 Denjerek table
15:08 BejjWrk Im having this odd issue with rtehtmlarea not loading on one server, but works fine with the site replicated to another server
15:08 BejjWrk any ideas ?
15:10 Denjerek caches?
15:10 WinstonS file permissions?
15:10 WinstonS Denjerek, according to the cli it's all privileges on database.*
15:11 BejjWrk caches are cleared, file permissions ok according to installtool
15:12 BejjWrk and ofc the sysadmin of the remote server is a duce and i have to set permissions via ftp.
15:13 WinstonS which php mysql module does typo3 need? mysql, mysqli or pdo_mysql?
15:13 WinstonS define "not loading"
15:14 BejjWrk not loading as in: "The editor is being loaded, please wait..." and nothing happens.
15:16 WinstonS hm
15:17 WinstonS i'd check the differences between the two boxes. different web server, php versions, etc
15:17 BejjWrk im gonna upload the sourcefiles for 3rd time, if it still doesnt work i blame the sysadmin
15:19 Denjerek nono winston
15:19 Denjerek on the _table_
15:19 Denjerek if I browse my DB with navicat there are distinct privs for a database, and for each table
15:19 WinstonS shouldn't .* mean "all tables", or am i mistaken?
15:19 Denjerek It will
15:19 Denjerek so long as nothing below that overrides it
15:19 Denjerek think like CSS specificity
15:20 WinstonS true
15:20 Denjerek It's worth checking.
15:20 WinstonS hm. does phpmyadmin display this somewhere?
15:20 WinstonS never noticed so far
15:20 Denjerek I used navicat lite
15:20 Denjerek (It's free)
15:21 Denjerek hmm
15:21 Denjerek seems I might be wrong
15:21 Denjerek nothing unusual there
15:22 Denjerek ah
15:22 Denjerek no I am riht
15:22 WinstonS cant install navicat. no gui on the dev box
15:22 Denjerek you can manage privs with navicat lights
15:22 Denjerek Connect from your windows machine ?
15:22 Denjerek that's what I do
15:23 Denjerek you just have to make sure mySQL is listening to your windows machine IP
15:23 WinstonS they're on seperated nets, cant reach it :/
15:23 Denjerek ack
15:23 Denjerek lemme check PHPMyadmin
15:23 WinstonS thank you
15:24 Denjerek yes
15:24 Denjerek ok
15:24 Denjerek PHP MYadmin
15:24 Denjerek privs
15:24 Denjerek (From homepage)
15:24 Denjerek select user
15:24 Denjerek click edit pencil
15:24 Denjerek Then you should see halfway down "Database specific privs"
15:25 Denjerek See anything ?
15:33 maholtz|WORK re
15:36 Denjerek re ?
15:36 Denjerek I was asking if WinstonS could see anything in his PHPMyadmin permissions view
15:40 WinstonS looks like i'm stupid. i dont even find the pencil icon :/
15:47 WinstonS gah. cant even login as root with empty password. in spite of changing the phpmyadmin config
15:51 WinstonS found it. no table specific permissions.
15:51 WinstonS all perms on the typo3 database
15:55 WinstonS do i need to install a template before being able to create pages?
16:06 maholtz|WORK @WinstonS: nope
16:07 Denjerek nope,.
16:07 Denjerek Usually you create a page, then attach the template to it.
16:07 Denjerek WinstonS: can you try and install an extension ?
16:08 Denjerek go to the extension manager, update, then search for seo_basics
16:08 Denjerek Try and install it
16:08 Denjerek see if you receive any errors.
16:10 WinstonS Denjerek, i just installed templavoila and messing around with it
16:10 WinstonS it at least created a page tree
16:10 WinstonS now i'm messing with mapping and data objects
16:11 Denjerek ooh
16:11 WinstonS templavoila + some free template -> page tree created
16:11 Denjerek Well you needed templatevoila anyway
16:11 Denjerek for FTB
16:11 Denjerek :)
16:11 Denjerek But still...
16:11 Denjerek come to think of it, I've never NOT used TV
16:11 Denjerek So perhaps I would be unable to make a pagetree too ?
16:11 WinstonS heh
16:12 Denjerek Although... I've never used the free templates
16:12 Denjerek what's the name of that TV setup that kickstarts a whole site
16:12 Denjerek has a load of widgets and modifications to the backend
16:12 WinstonS it's just to mess around, getting used and bugfix. i'll have to create a own template later on too
16:12 WinstonS no idea. i just found templavoila in some tutorial
16:13 Denjerek Probably FTB
16:13 Denjerek it's a great way to work IMo
16:13 Denjerek Gnn
16:13 Denjerek maholtz do you rememeber the name ?
16:13 Denjerek There is a site... and an extension i think
16:14 Denjerek And it generates a load of flexible content components and changes some BE things.
16:14 maholtz|WORK busy nogging?
16:15 maholtz|WORK http://templavoila.busynoggin.com/
16:20 Denjerek Busynoggin!
16:20 Denjerek Thankyou maholtz that was driving me crazy
16:22 Denjerek You'll be doing a lot of that.
16:22 Denjerek :)
16:23 Loaden hello, does somebody know where i can change the domain of a site in typo?
16:28 Denjerek Um
16:28 Denjerek Well
16:28 Denjerek you can check for domain records int he list view
16:29 Denjerek and you can look in the template->setupup for the site.baseURL= line
16:29 Denjerek config.baseURL
16:29 Denjerek sorry
16:33 WinstonS still reading busy noggin and messing around with templatevoila. thank you for your hints, guys
16:40 Denjerek No worries WinstonS, just be sure to idle here.
16:40 Denjerek Familiar names get more attention :)
16:41 Denjerek (it's like fight club... gotta stand out in the rain for 3 days...)
16:48 WinstonS *lol* except you talk more about this fight club
16:57 Denjerek ggrmble
16:57 Denjerek bloody connection
17:00 WinstonS wb
17:01 Loaden thx @Denjerek
17:02 Loaden bb
17:02 Denjerek Did you fix it Loaden ?
17:02 Loaden yes, works fine
17:08 WinstonS i just noticed the following, while messing with tempovola and busy noggin:
17:09 WinstonS create database, create user, grant all on database to user; installtool: import db. no errors, but no page tree.
17:10 WinstonS drop database; install tool: create database (same name), import db: no errors, page tree created.
17:18 Denjerek How very curious
17:19 Denjerek Wait
17:19 Denjerek Winston are you just doing the same procedure twice
17:19 Denjerek or are you doing one from the 123 tool, and one from the backend Install Tool
17:19 Denjerek ?
17:20 WinstonS i followed the instructions from the busy noggin website
17:20 WinstonS while messing around with the 123 tool i am not logged in to the backend
17:21 WinstonS still the backend seems to not being able to update the database
17:21 WinstonS i cant modify the template
17:21 Denjerek it really does seem as if, once beyond the installation, you don't have write privs.
17:21 WinstonS yep, by the looks of it.
17:22 Denjerek did you create two SQL users?
17:22 Denjerek localhost and 127.0.0.1 ?
17:22 WinstonS but i dont get the slightes hint of an error
17:22 WinstonS yeah, but grant all for both
17:22 Denjerek hrmph.
17:22 WinstonS and using "localhost" in localconf
17:22 WinstonS localhost / 127.0.0.1 IS a difference to mysql.
17:23 WinstonS localhost usually uses a UNIX socket, 127.0.0.1 uses tcp networking.
17:23 Denjerek Yeah
17:24 Denjerek I just wondered if you had one and not the other
17:24 Denjerek and your config was trying to use the one you didn't have :)
17:24 WinstonS if this continues i'll try to revert to mysql 5.0
17:24 WinstonS mysql 5.1 is quite a mess
17:24 Denjerek Let me see what I am running on cfaccessories.com
17:24 Denjerek moment.
17:26 Denjerek PHP Version 5.2.6
17:27 Denjerek 5.0.16
17:27 Denjerek (mysql 5.0.16)
17:27 Denjerek MySqli 5.0.16
17:28 WinstonS hmhmm
17:28 WinstonS i dont especially like the 5.1 release anyways. was released in quite a hurry.
17:28 Denjerek Yes, project management at MySQL since the Sun machinations has been.... odd.
17:28 Denjerek Can you easily rollback to 5.0.x and test?
17:28 WinstonS indeed
17:29 Denjerek Where are you located geographically BTW ?
17:29 WinstonS yep, and will do that tomorrow. it's only a dev box, i can mess on that one whatever i like ;)
17:29 WinstonS south western of germany.
17:29 Denjerek Anywhere near Trier?
17:29 Denjerek Or more south?
17:32 WinstonS http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&geocode=&q=neustadt+%2F+weinstrasse&sll=53.800651,-4.042969&sspn=13.679199,31.376953&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Weinstra%C3%9Fe,+67434+Neustadt+an+der+Weinstra%C3%9Fe,+Rheinland-Pfalz,+Deutschland&ll=49.724479,9.206543&spn=1.867928,6.015015&z=8
17:32 WinstonS around here ;)
17:32 WinstonS it's quite a bit to trier
17:33 WinstonS whassup with trier?
17:37 WinstonS gotto go.
17:37 WinstonS thank you, and see you around :)
18:36 ndee in a rootmenu, how can I change the last item, so that it's not linked?
22:18 pulponair hi there
22:18 pulponair anyone in here from norway by any chance?
22:21 Prot0 pulponair:
22:22 Prot0 type /who #typo3 *.no
22:22 Prot0 ;]
22:42 Notschko Hello...
22:43 Notschko I've got a problem I don't know at all to solve
22:44 Notschko I need to create a menu that contains random pictures of an given directory

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