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00:23 alicja hi all
00:24 alicja i am using templavoila and i want to know how i can map image links. I have tried image fields with fixed w/h but the links can not be set
00:26 alicja how can i fix that? with a section container? But the link surrounds the image. When i map the link, the image can not be mapped...
00:30 milestone anyone can helo
00:30 milestone whoops
00:30 milestone sorry
07:38 MoN_ Good morning guys, quick and easy question, where do I edit the data structures?
07:56 Sunil How can I get current page id in typoscript? I want to use in ....special.value = [current page id]
07:57 sorenmalling Sunil: TSFE:id
08:09 MoN_ where do I edit/add new data structures and template objects? can someone guide me in the right direction ?
08:10 Tsoots in templavoila
08:11 MoN_ thanks
08:14 BejjWrk morning
08:14 sorenmalling Morning
08:17 marcuslind MORNING
08:17 marcuslind :>
08:18 MoN_ How do I add a new Flexible CS item ?
08:23 MoN_ Content Element that is
08:51 sorenmalling MoN: Are you familiar with Templavoila?
08:59 maholtz|WORK morning
09:22 BejjWrk is there any site that has more indepth server requirements for typo3 ? im experiencing wierd issues with rte among other tings
09:26 gerards RTE? shouldn't that be a client (aka browser) issue?
09:26 gerards or do you mean the way rich text is saved in tt_content?
09:29 BejjWrk no, its weird, it doesnt even load the rte
09:29 BejjWrk and ive even tar.gz'd the files and uploaded it to the host, and had the admin untar it
09:29 BejjWrk not even the clear cache icon works
09:29 BejjWrk and, after a few tests with wec_servercheck.php all i get is blank pages
09:30 BejjWrk imo its a serverside issue that makes typo3 crumble :(
09:30 gerards do you have access to the mysql table "tt_content"?
09:30 gerards oh wait. scratch that.
09:30 gerards :)
09:31 gerards i assume you're using the standard RTE?
09:31 BejjWrk it doesnt matter, it works fine on our other production server, but not the clients own server
09:32 gerards wow... that's weird.
09:32 BejjWrk thats what im saying :)
09:32 BejjWrk and ofc the client blames us and the sysadmin is a ducebag
09:32 gerards :)
09:33 gerards i guess you next need to take a copy of
09:33 gerards 1. the files on the client server.
09:33 gerards 2. the mysqldump of the client db
09:33 gerards and test that on your local machine.
09:33 gerards that's what I'd do to show the client that its their server which is screwing everything up.
09:44 Denjerek Guten morgen alles
09:47 PiMB gute morgen Denjerek
09:55 Denjerek I wonder...
09:55 Denjerek ...would implementing something like this: http://wmd-editor.com/
09:55 Denjerek in a content element in the backend be possible ?
09:55 Denjerek I hate RTE's with a passion, but a built in markdown editor might be nice.
09:55 Denjerek There is an old extension that applies markdown to a textbox, essentially, but doesn't provide the WYMIWYG editor
10:37 rait_ Good morning
10:38 rait_ could someone offer me some guidance in dealing with DAM/tt_news/smoothgallery?
10:39 Prot0 just shoot your problem :]
10:39 rait_ I just installed DAM, and now my tt_news list only displays images for news items that have at least 2 images
10:39 rait_ so when smoothgallery kicks in, everything works
10:39 rait_ but for single images, the image is not displayed
10:41 rait_ hmm...seems the single images are not displayed for tt_news SINGLE view either
10:41 Prot0 are they displayed in the list view?
10:42 rait_ no. I can not see single images anywhere on the page
10:42 rait_ http://kuma.fm
10:42 Prot0 tt_news 3.x or 2.x?
10:42 rait_ there is an image for each news item
10:42 rait_ tt_news 3.0
10:43 Prot0 ah ok
10:44 rait_ hmm...and when I disable the smoothgallery plugin, no images whatsoever are displayed
10:50 Denjerek DAM confused the hell out of the editors I tried to train with it.
10:50 Denjerek I had to uninstall it in the end :/
10:51 Denjerek They now organise everything with folders in the Filelist.
10:51 rait_ haha
10:51 rait_ well, my editors are singing me praises for installing it :D
10:51 rait_ now to get it working as it should...
10:53 Denjerek this was a long time ago
10:53 Denjerek maybe 12-18 months
10:53 Denjerek so perhaps DAM is more userfriendly now.
10:54 Denjerek I should try re-writing a gallery extension to use DAM tags instead of the clunky system it currently uses
10:56 rait_ so nobody here recently installed DAM to work with tt_news..?
11:08 beli moin
11:08 MasterYin moin everyone
11:10 beeeeviz hey guys
11:10 PiMB hi
11:11 beeeeviz i need some help with a backend extension i created using the kickstarter
11:11 PiMB shoot
11:11 beeeeviz i created some sort of "base extension" with a lot of columns in an own table
11:12 beeeeviz columns like capacity, accomodation_size, and so on
11:12 PiMB okay
11:12 beeeeviz now i created a new extension "hotel" which i wanna use as custom content element type
11:13 PiMB okay
11:13 beeeeviz when you create a new content element there should be a form with some specific fields
11:13 gerards yeah. DAM is really not a great extension... Its not a bad one, but not great.
11:14 beeeeviz but i dont know how i get the fields i created in my base extension into my "hotel" form
11:14 PiMB no extension is gerards
11:14 beli gerards: DA
11:14 gerards except the ones I write. :)
11:14 beeeeviz i downloaded the ext_tables.php and added the fieldnames to the showitem array
11:14 beli gerards: DAM looks grown and not planned...
11:14 beeeeviz but no effect
11:14 gerards that was a joke ok? don't flame me.
11:15 beeeeviz $TCA['tx_doto_items']['types'][$_EXTKEY . '_pi1']['showitem'] = 'CType;;4;button;1-1-1,accomodation_size,description,capacity;;3;;2-2-2';
11:15 beeeeviz what do i have to do to see my custom fields in my new custom content type extension?
11:15 beeeeviz seems like typo3 doesnt know where to get the fieldname information from
11:16 beeeeviz tx_doto_items is my base extension table
11:16 bayer hi there, i wonder if the "clear page content cache" on the upper right (yellow flash) always clears the whole cache, or only that of the active page?
11:16 beli bayer: whole cache
11:17 gerards i think you need to do t3lib_div::loadTAC('wheever'), then t3lib_extMgm::addTCAcolumns('aaaa', 'bbb'); beeeeviz
11:17 PiMB beeeeviz, yeah you have to add them to your TCA
11:17 gerards beeeeviz, i'm not sure if you can simply just add to the $TCA
11:17 beli bayer: s/Clear page content cache/Clear content of all pages/
11:18 gerards beeeeviz: here is the php code from an extension (not written by me):
11:18 beeeeviz add this to my hotel-extension's ext_tables.php?
11:18 gerards $tempColumns = Array (
11:18 gerards 'tx_ccipauth_ip_list' => Array (
11:18 gerards 'exclude' => 1,
11:18 gerards 'label' => 'LLL:EXT:cc_ipauth/locallang_db.php:fe_groups.tx_ccipauth_ip_list',
11:18 gerards 'config' => Array (
11:18 gerards 'type' => 'input',
11:18 gerards 'size' => '30',
11:18 gerards )
11:18 gerards ),
11:18 gerards );
11:18 gerards t3lib_div::loadTCA('fe_groups');
11:18 gerards t3lib_extMgm::addTCAcolumns('fe_groups',$tempColumns,1);
11:18 bayer beli: mine says "clear page content cache"
11:18 gerards t3lib_extMgm::addToAllTCAtypes('fe_groups','tx_ccipauth_ip_list;;;;1-1-1');
11:18 gerards sorry for the spam.
11:19 gerards yes your ext_tables.php.
11:20 beli bayer: i want to say...that nominative singular is used in all languages i know for GENERAL stuff....so it means all pages
11:20 beeeeviz t3lib_div::loadTCA('wherever') = my base extension's table, right?
11:20 beli bayer: what is your problem?
11:21 gerards beeeeviz i think so. :) please check http://typo3.org/fileadmin/typo3api-4.0.0/d3/d3d/classt3lib__div.html
11:22 beeeeviz ok, thanks a lot. i'll try :)
11:22 bayer beli, people tend to clear the page cache with that button, even if they only need to clear it for a single page - that leads to massive mysql bin-logs
11:23 beli bayer: hmm thats right, never thought about that
11:23 gerards beeeeviz: let me know if that solves your issue.
11:23 gerards bayer: beli: you can clear the individual page's cache i think. But Im not sure how reliable it is.
11:23 beli bayer: you can mark pages to be uncached...so if you are working on one single page, you can set this option. and remove it after you are done
11:24 bayer beli, we can remove the button with typoscript, right?
11:24 gerards in TV's page module, you can theoretically clear that page's cache.
11:24 beeeeviz no problem
11:24 beeeeviz but new coffee first. hehe
11:26 bayer beli, marking the page to be uncached is not really an option, it would involve more people than necessary for small changes
11:26 milestone hi all
11:27 bayer beli, we just need to make them use the right button ;)
11:27 gerards bayer, please try to clear the single page's cache using TV's page module. see if that works. then see if that meets your needs.
11:27 MasterYin I still didn't found the reason why my fe-usersessions are killed by random in IE8.... sometimes I'm logged in for seconds. sometimes for longer... and sometimes also until I logout... but on different systems with with IE8 it's allways teh same...
11:28 bayer gerards, its not the problem that i dont know how to clear a pages cache, it is that our co-workers tend to clear all pages cache, because the button is more obvious than the one for the active page
11:29 gerards i see. i'm sorry. I didn't understand.
11:29 Denjerek Does DAM have a fancy uploader yet?
11:29 Denjerek The new Filelist uploader is SO much nicer than the old method.
11:30 beli bayer: you intend to have another entry in the upper right ajax menu that clears actual page only
11:32 rait_ atm the DAM uploader is pretty much the same as the Filelist one
11:32 beli bayer: i would do a feature request. dunno if its possible to do alter it via TS. dont think so
11:34 milestone_ i am using templavoila for my templating. On my starting page i have 6 pictures with links to the subpages. I have managed to create image fields with mapping a:inner and the target of the page to attribute a:href. Within the TV Page Module I see the correct number of images and link targets with the correct field labels. I can insert different target uids, but when i look at the page in the frontend, only one (the first) link is
11:34 milestone_ rendered correctly. The rest all look like the first. Although the images are correct
11:34 milestone_ what am i missing?
11:34 milestone_ do i need to put the images and links into sections?
11:35 Denjerek milestone
11:35 Denjerek did you make a flexible content element
11:35 Denjerek or did you make these things as part of the page template?
11:35 beli i have a problem trying to get typo3 calendar to work. i get some output fot the main plugin, but i cannot create the other views (month, year, list, ...) on subpages. any ideas?
11:35 milestone_ Denjerek: no
11:35 milestone_ part of a page template
11:35 Denjerek So you pick 6 images and enter 6 link targets
11:35 Denjerek but on the frontpage, they all render like #1
11:35 Denjerek ?
11:36 milestone_ Denjerek: exactly
11:36 WinstonS hi guys
11:36 Denjerek Sounds to me, that although you created the inputs, you might have accidentally bound all the outputs to the first input :)
11:36 Denjerek Hey WinstonS
11:36 WinstonS hey Denjerek. how's work for today?
11:37 milestone_ Denjerek: i thought that as well, so i went in and looked at the typoscript
11:37 Denjerek "Meh"
11:37 milestone_ Denjerek: inside the field
11:37 Denjerek re-writing a Perl algorithm in PHP to import some old data from an old system
11:37 milestone_ sorry
11:38 Denjerek And I don't know a line of Perl
11:38 Denjerek so that's fun :)
11:38 Denjerek I'd rather be re-wriitng the gallery I'm using on cfaccessories.com to use DAM tho
11:38 milestone_ Denjerek: so i checked the TS of the Link Field elements and saw that was 10 = TEXT ...
11:38 WinstonS heh. good luck then
11:38 WinstonS perl rocks tho
11:38 milestone_ Denjerek: then i changed them to 11, 12, 13 etc.
11:38 Denjerek milestone: can you paste the whole XML to a pastebin somewhere
11:38 Denjerek and link me to it ?
11:39 Denjerek preferably a pastebin that supports revisions
11:39 beli perl rocks? try python or ruby
11:39 Denjerek so I can amend it and you can see the amendments.
11:39 milestone_ WinstonS: python is most often easier and quicker to program than perl (for text manipulation import / export CSV and such)
11:39 Denjerek Python tempts me daily.
11:39 milestone_ Denjerek: of course
11:39 WinstonS i "have to use" python somewhat. i dont especially like it. it's ugly.
11:39 WinstonS but powerful
11:39 WinstonS i especially hate the forced indendation *g*
11:40 WinstonS besides that, python is a version mess way worse than perl.
11:40 beli WinstonS: it forces you to write readable code, nothing else
11:41 WinstonS i can write readable code without being forced to ;)
11:41 Denjerek hehe
11:41 Denjerek that's what ctrl+alt+f is for!
11:42 WinstonS vim++ ;)
11:42 Denjerek Ouch.
11:42 Denjerek BTW yesterday I asked about Trier simply because it's the only town I've visited in the south/west of Germany whose location I know :)
11:42 Denjerek (I have friends there)
11:42 milestone_ Denjerek: nevermind... I forgot to save the DS/TO after updating the Mapping Information *OUCH* *SLAPONTHEFOREHEAD*
11:43 WinstonS and the mandatory trip to porta nigra, i guess
11:43 Denjerek Of course :)
11:43 Denjerek http://sozutux.dyndns.org/trier/ :D
11:43 WinstonS ouch, flash.
11:44 Denjerek Yeah, quick export from Lightroom
11:44 Denjerek on my not-so-quick home webserver
11:44 WinstonS did adobe fix lightroom messing up filenames and metadata by now? ;)
11:44 WinstonS "not so quick". dont ask about my home connection *g*
11:44 Denjerek I've never used it for filename management, only processing, so I'm not sure.
11:45 Denjerek In the UK, you can download fast (20MBit) but upload slow (512kbit)
11:45 WinstonS same here
11:45 WinstonS but not quite as fast
11:45 beli i am 36km away from trier atm
11:45 Denjerek Luxembourg beli ? :)
11:46 beli no, next to hermeskeil
11:46 WinstonS that name rings a bell
11:46 milestone_ Denjerek: edited the mapping again this time I hit SAVE AS but it still doesn't work so here ... http://pastebin.com/d7505cad9
11:46 WinstonS btw, guess what...
11:46 Denjerek milestone: cleared all caches etc?
11:47 WinstonS i reverted to mysql 5.0.83, php5 without suoshin, apache2. still cant create the page tree.
11:47 milestone Denjerek: yes
11:47 WinstonS gotto try the typo3 4.2 package that can be installed through apt. if that fails, i'm afraid i've gotto look for alternatives
11:48 beli WinstonS: you are from?
11:48 WinstonS beli, neustadt (Weinstrasse)
11:49 Denjerek milestone:
11:49 Denjerek all your images have this: 10.stdWrap.typolink.parameter.field = field_link_attr_aktuelles
11:49 beli oh :) know it...was there some years ago....federweisser und zwiebelkuchen :)
11:49 Denjerek so they're all linking to the same field URL
11:49 Denjerek update the field names and you'll be making a start
11:50 WinstonS beli: that's still yummy ;) around here we've almost got more wine "festivals" than normal days hehe
11:50 Denjerek You're making me want currywurst.
11:50 Denjerek ¬_¬
11:51 beli WinstonS: that's true :)
11:51 WinstonS as you mention it, there's the "wurstmarkt" around here. as the name says, it's a... wine festival
11:51 WinstonS *g*
11:53 ManuelB didnt work. i still dont see any custom fields
11:53 beli WinstonS: where do you know hermeskeil from?
11:53 WinstonS exactly that's what i'm trying to remember
11:54 WinstonS hmpf. the ubuntu typo3 meta-package installs exim and stuff also. *sigh*
11:54 milestone Denjerek: thx
11:54 beli WinstonS: its because typo3 needs a mailer, and exim is default mailer
11:57 beli so noone here using typo3 calendar?
12:06 WinstonS yea. but exim is a pita to configure and harden ;)
12:06 WinstonS besides, i need to get typo running first, before even thinking about it's mailer
12:07 pmk65 is anyone here familiar with writing extensions using the l10n localization features? I need to know how to select (mysql) the records, so that it follows the localization guidelines and respect the various config settings.
12:09 WinstonS not me, sorry.
12:13 maholtz|WORK @pmk65: i wrote some stuff down http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/User:Maholtz#Mehrsprachige_Extensions_entwickeln but i am not sure, if it is 100% correct and it is in german
12:13 grunwalski hi there. i need to check in mailformplus if *at least* one checkout out of n is checked. in the docu i found sth. link this: "checkboxArray { errorCheck = required,min:2,max:4 }" But how is the checkboxArray definded?
12:14 maholtz|WORK @pmk65: and there is a different handling for pages and the other fields
12:15 maholtz|WORK the most difficult thing is to implement all language settings correct....
12:18 pmk65 maholtz|WORK: Thanks I'll take a look at it.. Im writing a glossary ext (all the current ones sucks IMO) with multilang support. The BE part is set up correctly. But for FE, i need to select the records, depending on: config.sys_language_mode, TSFE->sys_language_uid & TSFE->sys_language_content as described in http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_l10nguide/1.0.0/v
12:18 pmk65 iew/
12:20 milestone Denjerek: i can do what i want, but typo3 does always add another link to the TS automatically. check http://pastebin.com/d50a56bdf
12:23 Denjerek heyhey pmk!
12:23 Denjerek don't suppose you know of a manual/API for how to build DAM(n) into your own extensions do you ?
12:24 dfgsdfsd Hi
12:24 WinstonS *gah*. either i am stupid and missing something obvious, or the dev box is fubar. i reverted to 4.2.11 and got the same symptoms.
12:24 dfgsdfsd plz give solution for typo3 menu problem
12:24 Denjerek milestone: Once you save&close from your mapping, you then edit the XML. If you then go BACK to the mapping screen, it'll break your edited XML.
12:24 Denjerek dfgsdfsd: Use HMENU!
12:25 Denjerek As requested, one solution :)
12:25 WinstonS 42. THE solution.
12:25 Denjerek WinstonS: Still no database love ?
12:25 milestone Denjerek: so i can edit the xml directly?
12:25 Denjerek yes milestone
12:25 milestone ok
12:25 Denjerek from the Templatevoila view
12:25 milestone thx
12:25 Denjerek you click the pencil on the template record
12:25 Denjerek WinstonS: can you install an Ubuntu stack on a VM for testing ?
12:25 WinstonS Denjerek. nay. mysql 5.0, typo3 4.3 and 4.2, mysql root user, no suhosin, nothing works.
12:26 Denjerek Should only take 20 mins to do so.
12:26 WinstonS this is a vm. else i'D be completely crazy by now ;)
12:26 Denjerek LOL
12:26 ManuelB gerards didnt work
12:26 Denjerek pmk65: Winston has an issue where the installer creates the tables and whatnot for the dummy site perfectly, but after that every INSERT fails quietly.
12:26 ManuelB probably i'm doing anything wrong
12:27 WinstonS i'll ditch ubuntu 9.10 now and give 8.04 LTS a try.
12:27 ManuelB but i tried a lot and it still doesnt work
12:27 Denjerek WinstonS: I think that's the version my home dev is on.
12:27 Denjerek 8.04LTS
12:27 Denjerek The thing is, I can't see it being specific to the disro
12:27 WinstonS yea, that's a pretty stable one... desktop or server edition.
12:27 Denjerek more likely the configuration of the software within it.
12:28 WinstonS neither do i. but i'm running out of other things
12:28 Denjerek Understandable :(
12:28 Denjerek You should look into exposing the machine to the outside.
12:28 Denjerek So that someone from here can poke at it too
12:28 pmk65 Denjerek: I haven't used DAM much, but try asking Georg Ringer. i know he has done a lot of DAM work lately.
12:28 WinstonS i guess i cant do that. the machine is behind some paranoid firewalls i dont have access to
12:29 WinstonS i fear that i am missing something totally obvious...
12:29 Denjerek Roger that PMK
12:29 Denjerek Just2b doesn't seem to hang around here often anymore, though :(
12:30 Denjerek Any ideas on WinstonS's INSERT problem ?
12:30 Denjerek (ohhh err ;))
12:30 WinstonS to summarise: ubuntu 9.10 server edition. apache2, php5.2.10, mysql 5.0.83. typo3 4.3.1.
12:30 WinstonS install tool is "all green".
12:30 WinstonS i can login to the backend with admin : password
12:31 WinstonS there is no page tree, and i cant create a new page (inside), nor i can create a new user
12:31 WinstonS it does not even try to insert into the database
12:31 pmk65 Denjerek: no sorry. Im a "noob" when it comes to server installations ;)
12:32 Denjerek Doh.
12:32 WinstonS no worries. so am i, apparenty ;)
12:32 Denjerek I TOTALLY had that problem once
12:32 Denjerek and it was a matter of applying the GRANT privs to every table
12:32 Denjerek (Easy to do with a GUI like navicat lite)
12:32 Denjerek hey WinstonS
12:32 WinstonS i somewhat ruled that out by having typo3 use the root db username
12:32 pmk65 WinstonS: can you access the install tool? If so try the various "compare with TCA" "update tables" etc.
12:32 Denjerek do you have phpmyadmin installed on the sercer?
12:32 Denjerek *server
12:32 WinstonS Denjerek, all green on that.
12:32 Denjerek if so, can you do a manual insert via phpmyadmin ?
12:33 Denjerek can you pastecode your my.conf ?
12:33 WinstonS could you paste some example insert that is supposed to work?
12:34 Denjerek Just pick a random table
12:34 Denjerek hit INSERT in phpmyadmin
12:34 Denjerek and fill out a couple of fields
12:34 WinstonS i can try, but imho my.cnf is "boring". i manually added sql-mode="NO_AUTO_CREATE_USER,NO_ENGINE_SUBSTITUTION", but that's it.
12:34 Denjerek hit SAVE
12:34 Denjerek and see f it works.
12:34 pmk65 If it's just a specific ext that causes the problems, you can try the EM, and click on the troublesome extension (click on the name). Sometimes TYPO3 doesn't import the table defs correctly during installation, so if you see it displaying db fields that needs to be created, then you got that problem. (It's fixed if you answer yes to creating the fields)
12:34 Denjerek What we need... is a Dr House for TYPO3.
12:34 Denjerek Someone who can walk away and have an epiphany, then come back and save the day.
12:34 WinstonS it's LUPUS!
12:35 Denjerek It's NEVER lupus!
12:35 Denjerek :D
12:35 WinstonS hehehe
12:35 Denjerek (Except that time when it was...)
12:35 Denjerek ;)
12:35 Denjerek According to WinstonS, all the tables are there, it's just typo can't insert data into them.
12:38 pmk65 maybe this is related? -> http://typo3.toaster-schwerin.de/typo3_dev/2008_01/msg00574.html
12:39 Denjerek I'm pretty sure we checked strict mode yesterday
12:39 Denjerek But still WinstonS, paste up the my.conf
12:42 WinstonS ok, gimme a sec, i try to copy it from the dev box
12:50 WinstonS Denjerek: http://pastebin.ca/1757311
12:51 WinstonS this is the default my.cnf. i even reverted the sql-mode change
12:52 Denjerek I'm back
12:52 Denjerek damn lousy connection
12:52 WinstonS wb
12:52 WinstonS Denjerek: http://pastebin.ca/1757311
12:52 Rambabu Please help me in creating sub menus
12:53 Rambabu I have top menu ...on click of each page on the top menu i want to display sub pages in the left panel
12:53 dstier Hello, i'm need of help. How can i extract a .t3d file ? is there a way ?
12:53 Rambabu can any body help me to create sub menu based on page selected on top menu
12:54 WinstonS dstier, you really mean "extract", not "import into the cms"?
12:54 dstier i mean extract. i have a backup which i can't import cause it has an extension dependency which is not met
12:54 Rambabu How to create submenu based on the page selected on top menu
12:55 Rambabu can any body suggest me
12:56 Rambabu Hi please help me creating submenu
12:57 maholtz|WORK @Rambabu: perhaps you need entryLevel = 1
12:57 maholtz|WORK on HMENU
12:57 ycas Rambabu where do you want the submenu to be?
12:58 Rambabu i want the submenu to be displayed on left panel when i click on the page on top menu
12:58 Rambabu all the sub pages of selected page from top menu to be displayed on left panel
12:58 Rambabu if i dont have any sub pages for selected page nothing to be displayed
12:59 Rambabu I mean to say left panel means Left column
12:59 ycas Rambabu here is my TS for submenu http://ycas.pastebin.com/d187179ef
12:59 Rambabu Thanks for giving reply "ycas"
12:59 ycas not sure if it is what you wanted, but try it out
13:00 ycas it is entrylevel 1 on the left side
13:00 dstier WinstonS i mean extract. i have a backup which i can't import cause it has an extension dependency which is not met
13:00 Rambabu I had tried with entrylevel but did nt work
13:01 Rambabu thanks ycas i will try with this
13:01 Rambabu and let you know if it does nt work
13:01 ycas ok
13:01 ycas i am no pro in t3, but this is working with me ;)
13:01 ycas |]
13:03 WinstonS dstier, no idea so far, sorry. lemme try some things...
13:03 pmk65 dstier: There's a script/executable that can extract t3x files. I don't know if it works on t3d files too.. -> http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//61537/ (There's a download link to the executable at the bottom of the page)
13:04 pmk65 (try renaming the t3d to t3x before extracting)
13:04 dstier pmk65 tx, but the downloads are not available anymore
13:05 Rambabu Hi ycas after i integrate that code i am getting all menu items on left panel.But i want the sub pages of page selected on top menuj
13:05 Rambabu could you please tell me what might be the problem
13:07 Denjerek dstier: there is a tool online
13:08 Denjerek A set of scripts that does such a thing, extracts it into PHP
13:08 pmk65 dstier: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2241077/expandt3x.exe
13:08 Denjerek Awww PMK, I was just about to give him a TMGTFY link!
13:08 Denjerek :)
13:08 pmk65 I found a version on my HD. It's in my public dropbox now, so you should be able to dl it.
13:09 Rambabu Hi ycas are you there
13:09 ycas Rambabu: then you should modify entrylevel imo
13:09 ycas i was away indeed, sorry
13:09 Rambabu what i have to give for entrylevel
13:09 Rambabu ?
13:09 ycas what entrylevel does topmenu have?
13:10 Rambabu you mean page id?
13:10 Rambabu do u mean page id?
13:10 ycas no
13:10 WinstonS dstier, this might help also: http://snipplr.com/view/6502/extracting-data-from-a-t3d-file/
13:11 ycas Rambabu: in my topmenu, i have this line: subparts.TOPNAVI.entryLevel = 0
13:11 ycas means all pages on the root lvl are in the topmenu
13:11 Denjerek winston can you try sql-mode="ANSI,NO_AUTO_CREATE_USER,NO_ENGINE_SUBSTITUTION" in your my.conf
13:11 Denjerek just for the hell of it
13:11 dstier pmk65 thanks, but that program seems to work only for t3x
13:11 Rambabu OK
13:12 ycas you have to modify it according to your needs, and the submenu should be 1 number higher
13:12 Rambabu actually i did nt understand entrylevel but i can tell you what are the pages i have in my topmen
13:13 Rambabu I have Home|profiles|Ratings|History
13:13 ycas entrylevel is the menu depth level
13:13 ycas how deep are they in your menu structure?
13:14 WinstonS Denjerek, "ANSI"? will this not mess up quotes? i'll give it a try anyways, thanks :)
13:15 ycas Rambabu: http://ycas.pastebin.com/d4e4a0bdd here you can see my TS for topmenu and sidemenu, i hope the code helps you
13:18 Denjerek At this point WinstonS I think you'd be prepared to take a hit on some messed up quotes.
13:19 Rambabu but if i give entry level 1 or 2 but what about the subpages of subpages
13:20 Rambabu i have one page on top
13:20 Echidna why does searching for extension to import return so few results on my windows installation?
13:20 Rambabu for that my entry level is 1
13:20 Echidna e.g. no realurl
13:20 Denjerek heading home for lunch WinstonS - back on IRC in 5.
13:20 Rambabu for sub pages entry level is 2
13:20 Echidna that security checkbox is unchecked
13:20 Rambabu but again subpages have one more level
13:20 Rambabu how to display them
13:23 Rambabu Hi ycas are you there
13:24 ycas yes
13:24 ycas subparts.LEFTNAVI.entryLevel = 1
13:24 Rambabu Did u understnad my problem
13:24 ycas not = 1, try > 1
13:24 ycas i think
13:24 Rambabu doi have to include them in the same script?
13:24 ycas try it out, am not very firm in typo3 myself
13:27 Rambabu ycas:if i give my code can u tell me what is my problem
13:27 ycas maybe, not sure :-s
13:27 ycas i will try
13:28 Rambabu thanks
13:28 Rambabu ##### SUB PAGE MENU ##### lib.top_menu = HMENU lib.top_menu.special = directory lib.top_menu.special.value = 27 lib.top_menu.1 = TMENU lib.top_menu.1 { # Normal state properties NO.allWrap = <div class="lsMenu1"> | </div> # Enable active state and set properties: ACT = 1 ACT.allWrap = <div class="lsActive"> | </div> } # Second level menu-object, textual lib.top_menu.2 = TMENU lib.top_menu.2 { # Normal state properties NO.allWrap = <
13:29 ycas Rambabu: can you post it to pastebin plz?
13:29 ycas so we won't flood the channel
13:30 ycas http://pastebin.com/
13:31 Rambabu i have paste the code in the link
13:31 ycas you have to save/send it
13:32 ycas and send me the link then
13:32 Rambabu http://pastebin.com/m708379f
13:34 Rambabu special.value is the page id of topmenu page which is selectd
13:34 Rambabu this will work only for one page
13:34 Rambabu now i want to add the page id dynamically instead of hardcoding like above
13:35 ycas ok, then you should remove it. the easiest way, if possible, is to have all pages fot topmenu on one level in the page tree
13:36 ycas so you can use entry level for it
13:38 ycas i edited the two lines, hopefully in the right way
13:39 Rambabu can u send me them
13:39 Rambabu ycas:can u send me
13:39 Rambabu the edited file
13:40 Rambabu hi ycas
13:40 ycas it is in pastebin
13:41 ycas same url
13:41 ycas http://pastebin.com/d1e4ab259
13:41 ycas ah no
13:41 ycas here ya go
13:46 Rambabu but still i can have special.value=27 rhight
13:46 Rambabu how to give page id dynamically
13:46 Rambabu ycas:my code is correct?
13:47 ycas Rambabu: i don't know. but i think page id and entrylevel don't work together, as one is static and the other dynamic
13:47 Rambabu ya
13:47 Rambabu ur right
13:48 Rambabu i am trying for dynamic only
13:48 ycas yes
13:48 Rambabu but its not happening
13:48 ycas hm
13:48 Rambabu due to static id
13:48 ycas http://pastebin.com/d1af4e362 try out adapting this code to your needs
13:49 Rambabu ya but i have 4 levels of pages
13:49 Rambabu 1st level is top menu
13:49 Rambabu and 2-4 is subpages
13:50 Rambabu which i have to display as tree in the left columns
13:50 Denyerec LOL
13:50 Denyerec Whoever told rait that I was the person for DAM/tt_news problems was being mean :)
13:51 WinstonS *gnarf*
13:51 ycas yea, so entrylevel > 1 and not =
13:51 WinstonS in the mean time i tried some other stuff. i installed drupal. database works like a charm.
13:51 WinstonS i dont get it.
13:53 WinstonS next try: revert to ubuntu 8.04, apache2, php5, mysql 5.0 and typo3 4.3.1 . lets see if this does something.
13:53 WinstonS when using the dummy typo3 site, do i have to import a sql file? or is it sufficient to "create the default database tables"?
14:03 ycas rembabu did you try it out?
14:03 Denyerec Create default should be OK
14:03 ycas Rambabu: did you try it out?
14:26 bayer what is the way to split TMenu items by space characters, and wrap each of them with a different style?
14:27 Rambabu ycas: can you please explain how to get the query string value in typoscript??
14:31 Prot0 GP:tx_ttnews|tt_news
14:32 Rambabu Thanks for that.. Suppose if my query string is like ..index.php?id=10..So how can i get this 'id' value in typoscript
14:33 Prot0 GP:id
14:33 Prot0 but in this case
14:33 Prot0 TSFE:id would work too
14:34 Rambabu Actually we tried..but it is not working
14:34 Prot0 err
14:34 Prot0 where are you putting it?
14:34 Prot0 try adding inserData = 1
14:34 Rambabu like this....lib.top_menu.special.value = TSFE:id
14:34 Prot0 lib.top_menu.special.insertData = 1
14:40 Denjerek Any luck WinstonS ?
14:48 bayer to get a TMENU like this 1) RED black 2) RED black 3) RED black, i need to split each single item - how can i do that?
14:48 Prot0 look in tsref ;]
14:50 Prot0 its explained pretty well there
14:54 WinstonS Denyerec, by now i tried sql-mode ANSI and stuff. nothing works. (as usual...)
14:54 gerards Prot0: I don't think its explained "pretty well" there :D but its there.... :)
14:55 gerards I remember tsref to be really complicated when I first started out.
14:55 gerards I still get irritated and curse my computer when I read it now. :D
14:55 WinstonS FRUK, WTF.
14:55 WinstonS sorry.
14:56 PiMB gerards, what do you mean with split them?
14:56 WinstonS i just tried logging in to the backend using msie instead of ff
14:56 WinstonS guess what?
14:56 gerards yeah. with option split
14:56 WinstonS it works.
14:56 WinstonS GAH.
14:56 gerards PiMB: yeah. with option split
14:57 gerards PiMB: Prot0 was asking someone to read tsref. And I commented that tsref isn't always super clear.
14:57 gerards for optionsplit, i think typoscript by example may have a better example there...
15:04 Prot0 i remember reading the tsref yesterday (partially) and finding a very good example :]
15:05 Prot0 ill look it up in a moment ;]
15:05 gerards Prot0: great! I guess I'm the only one who has trouble with tsref. :p getting old I suppose....
15:06 Prot0 try printing it and reading from the beginning to the end
15:06 Prot0 mgith take some time but sureley a good way to find out certain things you might not know yet ;]
15:11 WinstonS Denjerek, apparently i found the solution...
15:14 gerards WinstonS: is your problem the Firefox 3 problem?
15:14 WinstonS "the firefox 3 problem"?
15:15 WinstonS usually i use ff 3.0.17, is there any known problem with it?
15:15 gerards there was a Backend bug when firefox 3 first came out.
15:16 gerards WinstonS: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=7646
15:16 net-mapper hello everybody
15:16 WinstonS hey's
15:16 net-mapper i have some problems with tt_news
15:16 gerards WinstonS: I believe the solution is to use 4.2.x
15:17 WinstonS gerards, no, was something else then. i tried 4.3.1 and 4.2.11 with same results.
15:17 gerards ah. ok :)
15:17 WinstonS gerards, ff just seems to ignore the click on the "save" button
15:17 WinstonS s/ignore/not handle properly
15:17 gerards ok. :) maybe you discovered a new bug:)
15:17 WinstonS this explains why it wasnt even tried to INSERT in the database
15:18 WinstonS i'm about to confirm it by using msie again.
15:18 net-mapper i'm using the last version 3.0.1 of tt_news and with typo3 4.3.0, the problem is that when i'm clearing cache the news appears and when i return to the pag i can't see nothing
15:18 WinstonS cances are one of my ff plugins is messing it up. i'll see if i can check it on a vanilla ff
15:18 net-mapper is there anyone who can help me fixing this
15:19 maholtz|WORK @net-mapper: everything else works?
15:21 net-mapper @maholtz|WORK: no, actually when i desactivate the url rewriting the tt_news won't work
15:21 Denjerek Oh lordy
15:21 Denjerek WinstonS
15:22 Denjerek It was Firefox?
15:22 Denjerek I use opera :D
15:22 Denjerek (Vastly superior)
15:22 Denjerek (Except for CSS debugging)
15:22 Denjerek (Because although Dragonfly is great for JS debugging, it sucks for CSS)
15:23 maholtz|WORK @net-mapper: but everything else then tt_news works correct?
15:23 net-mapper @maholtz|WORK: yes everything is working fine
15:24 maholtz|WORK and deactivating realurl rewriting doesn help?
15:25 maholtz|WORK there has been a new caching mechanism introduced in 4.3
15:25 WinstonS Denjerek, i like the ff extensions. that's one thing i'm missing on opera.
15:25 maholtz|WORK perhaps that does not work correctly with tt_news 3.0.1 ?
15:25 maholtz|WORK there is a option in install tool to deativate, just give it a try
15:26 net-mapper @maholtz|WORK: also when i desactivate the cache, it works fine in the first request
15:26 WinstonS Denjerek, gerards: i'm suspecting it's firefox with the "noscript" plugin. that's a plain guess and i'll try to verify it later on, but i know that noscript blocks certain things even when "allowing" a page.
15:26 net-mapper @maholtz|WORK: after that, the page is returning to its first state
15:28 gerards thanks WinstonS. Please let us know, we'd love to learn from your experience.
15:28 Denjerek WinstonS: I used to think that, but Opera has everything I used to use in Firefox
15:28 gerards WinstonS: PM will be nice. :)
15:28 WinstonS will do. thank you guys for helping me messing around
15:28 Denjerek With the exception of a couple of Dev plugins, for which I will load FF occasionally if I need them.
15:31 maholtz|WORK @net-mapper: i guess it could be, that tt_news 3.0.1 trys to use new caching framework, but something fails, so try to set the page to "no_cache" (only for testing)
15:32 gerards maholtz|WORK: (when you've finished with net-mapper) there's a new caching framework? :)
15:32 maholtz|WORK @gerards: yep, backported from FLOW3
15:33 gerards ah.... bug free? :)
15:33 maholtz|WORK sure;)
15:33 maholtz|WORK well, someone pointed out, that it does not speed up
15:33 maholtz|WORK (within simple webpages)
15:34 maholtz|WORK did not have an closer look at
15:42 net-mapper i tried the 'no_cache' option and it doesn't work
15:43 net-mapper @maholtz|WORK: i even tried to switch to tt_news cache engine framework, but this didn't help
15:51 WinstonS gerards, Denjerek: apparently it was some firefox plugin, but i cannot pinpoint it mor precisely yet. the backend works fine with ff in "safe mode" with extensions disabled
15:59 Denjerek Install opera.
15:59 Denjerek ;)
15:59 Denjerek The good news is, however, that it is at least working!
15:59 WinstonS heh,yea. now i gotto nag you with other stuff like "what is a template" or something *g*
16:00 WinstonS i was close to dumping it, just because of a friggin browser *narf*
16:00 WinstonS apparently "noscript" wasnt the culprit tho. still trying to single it out
16:04 Denjerek Hahaha
16:04 Denjerek Well
16:05 Denjerek All I can say Winston is that I have come close to dumping Typo3 many times.
16:05 Denjerek But every time, I look at the alternatives, and come running back with chocolates and flowers.
16:05 WinstonS true. for what i've read typo3 does all the stuff i need. if i manage to set it up properly.
16:07 Denjerek Well, I'll be happy to help you.
16:07 Denjerek (Which translates to: You're screwed)
16:07 Denjerek :)
16:07 maholtz|WORK @net-mapper: hm... difficult to say whats going wrong.. perhaps install latest 2.x version of tt_news?
16:08 maholtz|WORK (but i heard 3.0.1 works fine so...)
16:08 PiMB @ WinstonS try to look throught the documentation on typo3.org
16:08 PiMB especially the 'modern template building'
16:08 maholtz|WORK @net-mapper: did you check mysql und php error log?
16:08 PiMB then the question what is a template should be answered ;)
16:09 [1]net-mapper @maholtz|WORK: i was thinking to change to 2.x version
16:09 WinstonS PiMB, just reading my way though "futuristic" right now ;)
16:09 [1]net-mapper @maholtz|WORK: i will see the php and mysql log right now
16:09 [1]net-mapper @maholtz|WORK: also apache one
16:09 PiMB good luck mate
16:10 WinstonS thanks
16:13 [1]net-mapper @maholtz|WORK: nothing unusual is in error logs
16:14 [1]net-mapper so i will change the currect version with the 2.5 or 2.2
16:23 Denjerek *sigh*
16:23 Denjerek Drupal's Admin interface is so pretty.
16:25 gerards :)
16:25 Denjerek Can the TYPO£ foundation afford Mark Boulton?
16:25 Denjerek :)
16:26 Denjerek the UX list and team is silent.
16:26 Denjerek You see and hear nothing from them, ever :(
16:26 Prot0 association you mean! :P
16:26 Denjerek Shame on me!
16:26 Denjerek Yes, association.
16:26 Prot0 hehe
16:26 Denjerek And the last Typo3.org design i saw looked... not so hot,
16:26 Denjerek I believe the .org project is once again restarted, this time with funding.
16:27 Denjerek Much as people involved with Typo3 go "It doesn't matter that it looks like an eastern bloc housing project", it does.
16:27 Denjerek Selling shiney things is MUCH easier.
16:27 Denjerek Mind you, the very same people claim that Typo3 doesn't need a forum.
16:27 Denjerek *shakes head
16:27 Denjerek it's almost like they want it to die in a niche somewhere.
16:27 Prot0 we just need online IRC logging
16:28 Prot0 actually we already have this thanks to ries
16:28 Denjerek there are online IRC logs.
16:28 Prot0 ;]
16:28 Denjerek Yeah.
16:28 Denjerek but accessibility to typo rates a fat 2 on a scale of 1 to 10.
16:28 ries 7action checks if the log still works :D
16:28 Denjerek hehe
16:28 Denjerek Crappy homepage
16:28 Denjerek Crappy description
16:28 Denjerek Crappy tour
16:28 ries Denjerek: I think that counts for most, if not all CMS systems
16:29 Denjerek hardly, there's a swarm of activity around Drupal, Joomla and Django/Plone
16:29 Denjerek I mean
16:29 Denjerek there's a swarm of activity around Typo3
16:29 Denjerek a LOT of development
16:29 Denjerek you just... can't see it
16:29 Denjerek they're like termites.
16:29 Denjerek Wheras other projects are like bees
16:30 Denjerek Make no mistake, it's no small job.
16:30 Denjerek but piling all the work into development is crazy if the support infrastructure isn't there to allow the community to reach a critical mass.
16:31 Denjerek But... what would I know.
16:31 Denjerek I'm just a user who hates mailling lists.
16:31 Denjerek (The TYPO3 equivalent of the lowest of the low)
16:32 PiMB now your babbling mate.
16:32 PiMB you should just go with the nice gentleman in the white coat that will be there in a sec..
16:33 gerards and that syringe that he'll be holding, that's good for you.
16:33 Prot0 i think a public forum however would not be so bad
16:33 Prot0 at least a good english forum wouldnt be hehe
16:34 gerards i agree about the forum.
16:34 maholtz|WORK did someone send an email about a forum at (obscured mail address)?
16:35 gerards Everyday, someone will ask about tt_news here in #typo3. if there's a forum, that would greatly help them.
16:35 gerards or indexed search.
16:35 gerards someone always asks them. a forum could sticky those really popular topics.
16:36 MasterYin bye to everyone... will go home now
16:36 Prot0 im asuming theres a reason theres no forum
16:36 Prot0 next to that i think some of the books should be translated as well ;]
16:37 maholtz|WORK but who would translate them?
16:37 ries gerards: I don't think that forums will solve that problem ;)
16:37 gerards heeeheeee!
16:37 Prot0 true
16:37 ries gerards: I send Wayne a message.... no response yet, need to call him this week
16:39 zed_devil hi all
16:39 Denjerek Prot0: There is a reason. It's just a crap one.
16:39 Denjerek "Who would manage it"
16:40 Denjerek Mailinglists look after themselves.
16:40 PiMB I don't believe a forum will be the solution.
16:40 Denjerek Forums don't.
16:40 Denjerek Mailing lists act as a barrier for many people
16:40 PiMB because I find a lot of fora with similar questions all together without a proper answer
16:40 Denjerek The user-interface to them is uncommon.
16:40 PiMB it grows and needs time to be maintained
16:40 Denjerek and such people if they do not see support available in a familiar form, will look elsewhere
16:40 Denjerek Just look how MooTools threw away their market.
16:40 Denjerek their elitism cost them dominance
16:41 Denjerek compared to the inferior jQuery
16:41 Denjerek now jQuery is everywhere
16:41 Denjerek and mooTools is stuck in a niche.
16:41 Denjerek all because of how easy jQuery made it to get up and running, and how easy it was to get quick, simple results. The "Golden path".
16:41 Denjerek Even if they then hit a brickwall, they're invested and willing to learn.
16:42 zed_devil i have a problem with TV and the localisation view - my TV settings: langChildren1 /landDisable0 - everything works fine, but when i switch to choosen language the page is empty - FE works
16:43 zed_devil is it possible to show only the content of the choosen language on that page, or is it possible with this settings
16:44 Denjerek zed_devil: unfortunately I do not know.
16:44 Denjerek I've never had to work a translated site.
16:44 Denjerek :(
16:45 WinstonS gotto go. thank you guys, see you around
16:45 zed_devil someone else know about that problem
16:46 Denjerek Actually
16:46 Denjerek Despite looking like said Eastern Bloc housing project, the Typo3 backend is awesome for "proper work".
16:46 Denjerek all other CMSs piss me off.
16:47 Denjerek No matter how pretty.
16:47 PiMB and it's skinable!
16:47 Denjerek Hahaha
16:47 PiMB You know what I think..
16:47 Denjerek You made my day :D
16:47 Denjerek 4.4 should make great progress in that area.
16:47 PiMB everything that sucks graphically, is usually build by people that don't really care or know.
16:47 PiMB but know there programming..
16:47 PiMB so..
16:48 PiMB you have a great, stable, save and usuable product that doesn't really look the part.
16:48 Denjerek Piecing together shreds of README files it looks like there's some major movement in the BE planned for 4.4
16:48 PiMB but gets the job done.
16:48 Denjerek It's a shame that hot blondes with big tits do better than mousey librarians.
16:48 PiMB or you have a very shiny, apple kinda layout for design freaks/lovers without a proper stable project behind it.
16:48 PiMB you choose mate ;)
16:48 Denjerek It's not me, it's the clients!
16:48 PiMB ;)
16:48 Denjerek They like blondes...
16:48 Denjerek :(
16:48 Denjerek 4.3 is at least a LOT prettier than 4.0
16:48 PiMB blondes will get old ugly
16:49 Denjerek And they'll cheat.
16:49 Denjerek :)
16:49 maholtz|WORK well, Denjerek: think about 3.8 :)
16:49 Prot0 hehe
16:49 Denjerek OHhnggnn
16:49 Denjerek I'd rather not!
16:49 Denjerek If 4.0 was Eastern Bloc what does that make 3.8 ?
16:49 Denjerek :)
16:49 PiMB refugee camp
16:49 Denjerek hahaha
16:49 Prot0 lol
16:49 PiMB so there is progress.
16:50 Denjerek the new DAM interface is nice enough
16:50 PiMB TYPO3 will be blond one day!
16:50 Denjerek Yes
16:50 Prot0 3.8 looks like 1994
16:50 Denjerek there's progress
16:50 Denjerek she can dye her hair
16:50 Denjerek ;)
16:50 Denjerek Just need a bit more pizazz in the blogoshphere
16:50 Denjerek They should give me a blog account
16:50 Denjerek hotdamn they'd be sorry
16:50 Denjerek :D
16:50 PiMB I think they will be.
16:50 PiMB or make you forum admin
16:50 PiMB ;)
16:50 Denjerek Wish I could get them to adopt typo3 at the place I'm working
16:50 Denjerek I offered!
16:51 Denjerek me and pulponair.
16:51 maholtz|WORK what i really like is that there is not much hardcoded html in TYPO3 (frontend)
16:51 Denjerek aye
16:51 Prot0 amen
16:51 Denjerek Templatevoila is a nice way to work with designers.
16:51 maholtz|WORK and i learned image resizing is not a typicall thing
16:51 Denjerek that too
16:51 Denjerek I just implemented selective watermarking
16:51 Denjerek very useful
16:51 Denjerek yes
16:52 Denjerek TYPO3 is the understated, small-breasted librarian for sure.
16:52 Denjerek Doesn't look like much on the backend, but knows her stuff :)
16:52 Denjerek LOL
16:52 PiMB just slap on some makeup and she's a queen of the prom
16:55 ries how many people here do uses new readers? (And not for downloading illegal movies)
16:56 TheEternalAbyss readers?
16:56 Prot0 usenet? ME
16:56 Denjerek Oh wait, NOT...
16:56 Prot0 but only for downloading err..
16:56 Prot0 ebooks
16:56 Prot0 8-)
16:56 Denjerek Can't say as I do Ries.
16:56 Denjerek (At all, for that matter)
16:57 Denjerek they always seemed fiddly.
16:57 TheEternalAbyss those ebook readers?
16:57 Denjerek As in... I'll use forums as I just use my browser.
16:57 TheEternalAbyss dunno, I still use...books :\
16:57 Denjerek But for a newsgroup, I need dedicated software
16:57 Denjerek Admittedly I can set up newsgroups in opera
16:57 Denjerek in fact I should try that.
16:57 Denjerek are the Typo3 newsgroups synced with the mailling lists?
16:58 ries Denjerek: the newgroups are synced with the ML
16:58 StaffanE Denjerek: i think so
16:58 maholtz|WORK @Denjerek: yep, they are synced
16:58 ries I did see that TYPO3 is just the only project that uses a new system
16:59 ries I just hate these newgroups and rather see a forum instead, although I am not even a big fan of forums
16:59 ries But newgroups are soooo in accessible
16:59 PiMB I hate forums
16:59 PiMB like the IRC
16:59 StaffanE ries: a good threaded tree forum could work
16:59 ries you need to run again a piece of software just to read TYPO3 news...
16:59 StaffanE a phpbb3 forum would suck
16:59 StaffanE ries: use thunderbird - mail and news in one
16:59 ries vBullitin would do the job
17:00 Prot0 not free though ;-(
17:00 ries StaffanE: if I run thunderbird that means I need to run two mail clients!!!
17:00 ries I am nto crazy
17:00 StaffanE ries: ditch the other one ;-)
17:00 ries besides... TB and FF used to consume lot of memory in the past
17:00 ries StaffanE: my other one works a lot better ;)
17:00 ries Mall.App
17:00 PiMB ff still does
17:01 Prot0 leaky leaky
17:01 PiMB have to close it a couple of times a day for eating up cpu / ram
17:01 StaffanE thunderbird 3.0 uses about 50MB for me with about 10GB of mails
17:02 ries StaffanE: How is earch nowdays in thunderbird?
17:03 ries searching in mail.app goes lightning fast
17:03 StaffanE ries: search has been improved a lot.
17:04 StaffanE ries: it's fast even for me - a 10-20 seconds to go thru all my mails and maillists
17:04 ries that's long...
17:04 Prot0 can anyone recommend a macbook pro?
17:04 StaffanE Prot0: probably someone :)
17:04 Prot0 hehe
17:05 Prot0 im thinking about switching to it, though im not really a mac user (yet)
17:05 ries with mail.app we talk about seconds, and subjects even faster
17:05 ries Prot0: you should be :)
17:05 StaffanE ries: got 10GB of mail... takes a while just to parse them.
17:05 StaffanE ries: and that was a content search
17:05 ries I could convince gerards ;)
17:06 Prot0 lol
17:06 gerards huh?
17:06 ries StefanoK: 20sec still sounds slow to me...
17:06 PiMB well, depends on the size of searchpile
17:06 ries <flame>even spotlight finds stuff faster on my whole HD then that</flame> :D
17:07 PiMB if its10 gig it's a bit fast
17:07 Denjerek Hmm
17:07 Prot0 lol
17:07 Denjerek Ries I set up GMail JUSt for typomailling list
17:07 Denjerek I can't download the news server subscription list
17:07 Prot0 theoratically it should be 5 times faster for you ries
17:07 Denjerek news://lists.typo3.org right ?
17:07 Prot0 nntp://?
17:07 ries Denjerek: I don't know... really
17:08 ries Prot0: how come theoratically?
17:08 StaffanE news.netfielders.de
17:08 Prot0 well he has 10gb you 2
17:08 Prot0 :D
17:09 PiMB ohw no you didn't!
17:09 PiMB :)
17:09 ries cool : http://woodgears.ca/domino/index.html
17:09 StaffanE ries: time for spotlight to find every image of a beer bottle on your disk?
17:09 ries PiMB: but I search my whole HD including mail faster then 20 secs
17:09 Prot0 rofl
17:10 Denjerek holyshit it worked
17:10 Denjerek OPERA I LOVE YOU
17:11 PiMB @ ries's domino machine.
17:11 PiMB and corners?
17:11 Prot0 it says it can only make rows
17:11 ries PiMB: no corners I am afraid...
17:12 PiMB damn, so for world record I need a straight road of a couple of K's and no wind ;)
17:12 PiMB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86V_ICUCD4&feature=related
17:12 Denjerek Word to mother
17:12 StaffanE ries: likes this little random number generator -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n8LNxGbZbs
17:12 Denjerek Ries
17:12 Denjerek *HUGGS*
17:12 Denjerek Why didn't I bother to do this before...
17:13 Denjerek IDIOT <-
17:13 PiMB you've gotta love the dice o matic
17:13 PiMB sounds like a wallace and gromit contraption
17:14 ries This one should all computer freaks have : http://woodgears.ca/marbleadd/index.html
17:14 ries Denjerek: what did I do??? :)
17:15 PiMB ries, I think searching with this 'computer' might be slower then 20 sec's but I could be wrong.
17:16 ries ok
17:19 Denjerek Ries
17:19 Denjerek the newsgroups
17:19 Denjerek holyhell
17:19 Denjerek I'm going to make a tutorial on how to set it up in opera
17:19 ries Denjerek: all nicely hidden from the public :D
17:19 Denjerek so they can add it to the page
17:19 Denjerek yes
17:19 Denjerek all fkin hidden
17:19 ries can you post also?
17:19 Denjerek SO much easier
17:19 Denjerek Yes
17:19 Denjerek via my sozu SMTP
17:19 ries last time I used a mail render was ...Hmmm long time ago
17:19 Denjerek I should set up google's SMTP really
17:20 ries and I found that the system was rather slow
17:20 ries is that still so?
17:20 Denjerek it's better than trawlin through the generic mailling list subs
17:20 TheEternalAbyss k, i'm using typo3 vers 4.2.8
17:20 Denjerek I had to create a gmail account JUST for the mailling lists
17:20 TheEternalAbyss and i'm trying to understand the navigation mechanics...
17:20 TheEternalAbyss where do I go to change the font size of the text in the menu?
17:21 Denjerek int he BE ?
17:21 TheEternalAbyss and to make it not wrap around
17:21 TheEternalAbyss i'm in the be
17:21 TheEternalAbyss yes in the BE
17:23 Denjerek In which case I have no idea
17:24 TheEternalAbyss can it be changed in the FE?
17:25 TheEternalAbyss cause either way, as long as I make it all fit on one row, I'm happy
17:26 PiMB What do you mean with fit in one row?
17:26 PiMB the menu items of your website?
17:27 PiMB or the menu items of your BE>?
17:27 Denjerek He's talking about the BE I think
17:27 PiMB but he says, '07 01can it be changed in the FE?'
17:28 TheEternalAbyss menu item in my website
17:29 TheEternalAbyss i have like Home | Automotive | blah1 | blah2
17:29 PiMB then you should make it not brake or set the width via CSS
17:29 TheEternalAbyss I need it all in one row cause I have a lot of items
17:29 TheEternalAbyss i can't change it within typo3?
17:30 PiMB if it's FE you don't need to change it in TYPO3 you need to get your html/css right
17:30 TheEternalAbyss hmm...i guess i need to hunt down the css files then
17:34 TheEternalAbyss i wonder if this is possible....
17:34 TheEternalAbyss I'm using tempvoila'
17:35 TheEternalAbyss and i'm using this other extension: flexible content something
17:35 TheEternalAbyss ..fce
17:36 TheEternalAbyss anyways
17:36 TheEternalAbyss it creates 2 column subcontent elements
17:36 TheEternalAbyss and 3 column
17:37 TheEternalAbyss is it possible to edit it to allow for 4 columns rather easily, or would that be a complicated matter
17:37 TheEternalAbyss ?
17:38 Provito TheEternalAbyss, yes it can be modified later on
17:38 Provito TheEternalAbyss, what I do is store the xml for the ds in svn so that if there are any custom modifications these can be merged in
17:39 TheEternalAbyss sorry for the noobness herem but wat's ds and svn again?
17:39 TheEternalAbyss here*
17:39 Provito ds is the data structure for the fce
17:39 TheEternalAbyss ah
17:39 TheEternalAbyss i see
17:39 Provito svn is a source code repository system, like cvs or git
17:39 TheEternalAbyss got it. thanks. sounds good
17:40 Provito the xml for the FCE is overwritten when you remap, however I store the xml to ensure that any modifications are always kept
17:40 Provito I tweak my ds to enable for custom fce's with customisation other than simple mapping
17:41 Denjerek Plan FCEs carefully
17:41 Denjerek cos remapping and re-editing the XML is a pain in the ass
17:42 Provito in addition you can make the changes on a staging server if you update the FCE's the update via an export to deploy to the production server
17:43 Provito the export and import functionality is very useful with transporting FCE's between deployments
17:43 TheEternalAbyss well all I want to do is add another column, to the fce since the fce only makes you do 2 or 3 column elements
17:43 TheEternalAbyss and i need 4
17:43 TheEternalAbyss i dunno about deploying and doing a lot of modding to the plugin.
17:44 TheEternalAbyss i just wanted to tweak it
17:44 Denjerek You using busynoggin or something ?
17:44 TheEternalAbyss i don't know what busynoggin is lol
17:44 Denjerek hmm
17:44 TheEternalAbyss i'm very much a noob to typo3 and all
17:44 Denjerek well you appear to already have a 3 column FCE
17:44 Denjerek that you obviously didn't create yourself.
17:44 Denjerek So I wonder how you got it :)
17:45 TheEternalAbyss it was included in the site
17:45 TheEternalAbyss I've seen the extension in the repository
17:45 TheEternalAbyss i think...at least on typo3 website
17:46 Denjerek Hmm.]
17:46 Prot0 time to go lads :]
17:46 Denjerek I have onlye ver crweated 2-3 col elements myself.
17:46 Prot0 see you later
17:46 Denjerek Cya Prot0
17:46 Denjerek So I'm not sure what to advise.
17:46 Denjerek a FCE is composed of some HTML and some XML
17:47 Denjerek the HTML defines the structure that ends up on the site
17:47 Denjerek the XML defines what data is mapped to what part.
17:47 TheEternalAbyss unless i can put 2 two column elements side by side
17:47 Denjerek You could make a 2 col element
17:47 Denjerek then put a 2 col element in each one
17:48 TheEternalAbyss I'm thinking i might have to do that.
17:48 TheEternalAbyss just nest them
17:48 Denjerek if you want to mak a 4 col element
17:48 Provito you should try to keep content semantically correct and different from the design, i.e call an element a promotion, sub promotion etc and define within the html/css the layout
17:48 Denjerek you'd have to edit the underlying hTML
17:48 Denjerek then update the XML to map it properly
17:49 Provito calling content area's, left column, right column etc is heading for major inflexibility in future design iterations
17:52 TheEternalAbyss well...nesting it worked for the content
17:53 TheEternalAbyss i'm going to have to dive into the visual side of things to make sure the borders they want me to use to surround each content element is where the actual column is
17:53 Denjerek that's the easy bit
17:53 TheEternalAbyss :)
17:53 Denjerek So I find, anyway.
17:54 Denjerek CSS is much easier than Typo3 API :)
17:54 TheEternalAbyss aiight, i'm off to eat lunch. thanks for the help guys
19:11 TheEternalAbyss and i'm back
19:12 Prot0 me too :]
19:13 TheEternalAbyss :)
19:18 TheEternalAbyss would there be a reason why certain images wouldn't show up locally on the FE but would show up when it's live on the server?
19:20 Prot0 configuration/gdlib/im
19:22 TheEternalAbyss thanks
19:23 Prot0 check image processing in the install tool
19:24 TheEternalAbyss gdlib = 1
19:24 TheEternalAbyss im = 1
19:28 TheEternalAbyss hmm...everything seems in order
19:30 Prot0 you looked at the rendering as well? :]
19:31 TheEternalAbyss yea, seems like all of it is fine
19:32 Prot0 cleared caches etc
19:33 TheEternalAbyss so far the config says, enabled = 1, gdlib = 1, IM5 : -1, freetype DPI: 96, Mask Invert : 0
19:33 TheEternalAbyss the test menu shows everything seems to be working fine
19:33 Prot0 yes but there is an option in the install tool
19:34 TheEternalAbyss just cleared all caches
19:34 TheEternalAbyss what option
19:35 Prot0 "Image processing"
19:35 Prot0 :D
19:35 TheEternalAbyss lol right :)
19:36 TheEternalAbyss it's checked
19:43 TheEternalAbyss and for some reason 6 pages just decided to stay hidden and I can't unhide them.... :(
19:49 Prot0 looking good :D
19:49 Prot0 did you update or anything?
19:50 TheEternalAbyss nope
20:39 TheEternalAbyss hmm...well there was an error in one stylesheet
20:39 TheEternalAbyss i fixed it, and it seems to have tried to load the image
20:39 TheEternalAbyss but then nothing showed up
21:58 TheEternalAbyss can anyone help me figure this out...
21:58 TheEternalAbyss i was given a site to work on
21:58 TheEternalAbyss it references css files that are at a specific url so I can't edit the local copy and see the changes. For the life of me, I can't find where they defined the url of the css files. Anyoen can help so I can make it use the css in a relative path instead of a specific url?
22:05 ries TheEternalAbyss: did a search for teh css file didn't mention anything?
22:06 ries what's the name of teh CSS file?
22:07 TheEternalAbyss usa_edit.css
22:08 TheEternalAbyss but all the css files are loaded referencing the file on the server, for example it loads from http://www.tehblah.com/file.css
22:08 TheEternalAbyss so I have to edit THAT file to see changes made. Not the local one. I don't know why they did that
22:14 TheEternalAbyss i think i found my problem
22:15 TheEternalAbyss in the html source i see that it has a <base href="www.somesite.com"> tag and then <link rel > tags for each individual css file
22:15 TheEternalAbyss that's seriously stupid
22:16 TheEternalAbyss how do i access that in T3?
22:22 canders Hi out there. I'm getting nuts, because my frontend doesnt show anything at all
22:23 canders Is there a list out there, like 1001 reasons for a blank page?
22:23 TheEternalAbyss canders, hmm
22:23 TheEternalAbyss have you verified your installation is good through the install tool?
22:24 TheEternalAbyss my question to folks here is: where in typo3 are <base href> and <link rel> defined?
22:25 TheEternalAbyss canders: also, clearing all caches is always a good idea
22:25 canders ive done that already ... nothing changes
22:25 TheEternalAbyss hmm
22:26 kraftb hello!
22:26 canders it's a new typo3 installation ...
22:26 canders hi kraftb
22:26 kraftb hi canders
22:27 canders it's possible for me to write TS-Template and they get rendered
22:27 canders but if i try to include a html-file fx, that doesn't work
22:31 TheEternalAbyss argh this is rediculous....why would people use those tags
22:31 canders which tags?
22:32 TheEternalAbyss <base href> and <link rel>
22:32 TheEternalAbyss i have no idea how to edit those through typo3
22:32 canders i dont know either
22:36 TheEternalAbyss found it.....bastards lol
22:37 canders tell us
22:37 TheEternalAbyss k, i went to
22:38 TheEternalAbyss template>clicked on file with id=0 > went to Info/Modify in the drop down and it was there it the SETUP: window
22:39 canders thx
22:47 canders i still have my blank screen and no idea waht to do anymore ;)
22:48 TheEternalAbyss :( sorry canders, I'm not sure how to help you. I'm somewhat a noob at typo3
22:48 TheEternalAbyss did you try chacking your db?
22:48 TheEternalAbyss checking too
22:49 canders the integrity of the db is perfect
22:49 TheEternalAbyss hmm....dunno :(
22:50 canders i'll find a solution ...
23:27 Denyerec canders ?
23:27 Denyerec Oh, he's gone.
23:28 Denyerec GOddamn
23:28 Denyerec why do people always leave before I get chance to help ?
23:28 Denyerec I'd be a shit superhero.
23:30 Thasmo xD
23:37 milestone hi all
23:38 milestone is there an extension to automatically create a german "impressum" conforming to the laws?
23:38 Denyerec I often wondered about the German impressums
23:38 milestone just enter the owners information and such, and the legal stuff automatically added?
23:38 Denyerec I figured it was some kind of mandated requirement
23:39 milestone Denyerec: of course it is
23:39 milestone it sucks big time
23:39 beli impressi depend on conten
23:39 beli t
23:39 beli to be 100percent proof you need to consult a lawyer
23:40 milestone beli: i know
23:40 milestone but it is a site for a small restaurant
23:40 beli so google the web and copy/paste it
23:41 beli no need for an extension for every little sh*t ;)
23:41 milestone beli: i did, but i saw a screenshot somewhere which i cannot find again anymore :(
23:42 beli google for small restaurants ;)
23:42 milestone wtf i will just copy paste it
23:42 beli steuernummer ist das wichtigste was drauf sein muss :)
23:44 milestone beli: yes, thought there might be an ext since i saw a typo3 integrated form on the screenshot
23:44 milestone beli: :D
23:44 milestone maybe just create a special TV template

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