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01:13 Denyerec untouch
01:13 Denyerec What do you need advice with ?
01:13 Denyerec I'm just about to go to bed, but if I can help quickly then I shall!
01:33 Denyerec untouch ??
01:33 Denyerec *prod*prod*prod*prod*
01:38 awayand hello everyone
01:38 awayand I have just downloaded the newest version 4.3.1 installed the source and dummy package fine
01:39 awayand everything is configured perfectly
01:39 awayand when I start the 1-2-3 install tool, it tells me this upon username, pw and host fill-in: The current username, password or host was not accepted when the connection to the database was attempted to be established!
01:40 awayand I am going bezerk with this, no idea why it's doing that, the username and password is fine...
01:40 awayand any ideas?
01:51 Denyerec ...
01:51 Denyerec way to stick around for an answer dude :/
01:51 Denyerec Gnight chaps!
03:23 ries Denyerec: these people are not worth an answer... no worries, we don't want them here ;)
08:18 BejjWrk morning
08:33 ix-sign Hey i have a problem with my Vnavi can anyone me?
08:52 markus__ i dont get it
08:53 PiMB get what?
08:54 markus__ where is the configuration for the language detection by domain? i've two domains and typo3 recognise which domain was used
08:55 PiMB afaik there is no standard config for it.
09:04 Nixraff hi, ive got a problem with my ext manager in typo3...when i cal the ext manager i just get a white page? what problem could that be?
09:04 mquintus there are many possible reasons
09:05 Prot0 look in your PHP error log :]
09:05 mquintus probably you screwed it up
09:05 mquintus what did you install at last?
09:06 Nixraff i wanted to install myphpadmin
09:06 mquintus phpmyadmin
09:06 Nixraff yes meant that
09:07 PiMB nm
09:07 Prot0 remove it from the extList in localconf.php inside typo3conf/
09:07 Prot0 and clear cached files
09:07 Prot0 but can hardly imagine that pma is your problem
09:30 maholtz|WORK morning
09:30 Prot0 hey ;]
09:31 PiMB morninge
09:39 bartbogdan Hi all
09:39 Prot0 hello
09:39 bartbogdan We have an installation where the indexing of pages fails..
09:39 bartbogdan config.index_enable =1 and all pages are being cached
09:40 bartbogdan we're clueless at this point
09:40 Prot0 are you sure they are all cached?
09:40 Prot0 (did you check in the admin panel in the FE)
09:40 bartbogdan Yes
09:41 bartbogdan And i've turned on debug info, so in the source it says: <!-- Cached page generated 22-01-10 09:45. Expires 22-01-10 13:45 -->
09:50 bartbogdan funny right? :-)
09:50 Prot0 not really
09:50 Prot0 did you try out the crawler?
09:51 bartbogdan yes wel you start to get slightly melancholic
09:51 bartbogdan yes the crawler does crawl, but also with the crawler the index remains empty
09:52 PiMB not a single page is being indexed?
09:53 bartbogdan no, not a single page
09:53 Prot0 just trying to think with ya ;]
09:53 bartbogdan thanks!
09:54 Prot0 hehe
09:55 Prot0 did indexing work ever before on this site? (just shooting out ideas now ;])
09:56 bartbogdan no
09:56 Prot0 bah!
09:56 bartbogdan not as we can remember
09:56 PiMB so index_enable is set to 1
09:56 Prot0 is there a user/login section in the website/
09:56 Prot0 ?
09:56 bartbogdan we're using typo3 source 4.2.8 now
09:56 bartbogdan yes there is such a section
09:57 Prot0 hmm
09:57 bartbogdan but most pages are public
09:57 PiMB maybe the checkbox is set on the pages 'do not search'?
09:57 Prot0 seen problems with that, theres a patch for that in the repos
09:57 PiMB true
09:58 bartbogdan no search is set to false (0) on all pages
09:59 Prot0 dvdg_indexedsearch_patch
10:00 Prot0 http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/dvdg_indexedsearch_patch/current/
10:00 Prot0 try that
10:00 bartbogdan yes I'll try that right now!
10:02 WinstonS hey's
10:02 Prot0 hi WinstonS
10:03 paese hi all
10:04 WinstonS gmorning Prot0, how's going?
10:04 WinstonS hi paese
10:04 Prot0 good thanks :]
10:04 Prot0 u?
10:04 PiMB morning
10:04 Prot0 lo pea
10:04 WinstonS hey PiMB
10:04 Prot0 *paese
10:04 WinstonS pretty good. looking forward to yet another day of t3 noobishness ;)
10:05 paese ^ ^
10:06 paese got this from someone here in thsi chat.. but it's not working right. http://gist.github.com/283639 aim of this is: when i visit a page with id=45&sid=10, subnavigation should also append &sid=10. but it's always appendign sid=1
10:07 bartbogdan sorry, no luck with dvdg_indexedsearch_patch either..
10:08 Prot0 bah :(
10:08 Prot0 well was worth a try
10:08 bartbogdan yes, it sounded good
10:08 Prot0 helped me a couple of times :]
10:08 WinstonS hey PiMB, btw ;)
10:09 paese mmh,, indexed_search .. hadla slo troubles with it but the patch always sovled it
10:09 paese *sry, just got up, bad typos
10:09 PiMB WinstonS, again, you did that 10 lines up already ;)
10:09 PiMB but hi
10:10 WinstonS heh ok. my caffeine levels are still way below normal, brain's like *brrrzt* ;)
10:12 kinea after editing news, the news are not visible on the page. i have to clear the cache to make them visible again. someone knows about? (tt_news 3.0.1)
10:21 rait hello
10:21 Prot0 hi
10:22 rait I'm having a problem with smoothgallery/tt_news combo
10:23 rait trying to limit the number of images displayed to 1, but for some reason it does not work when I do it from TS
10:23 rait if I just make a gallery and use the GUI to limit the number of images, it works as it should
10:23 Prot0 for a news item?
10:23 rait plugin.tt_news.rgsmoothgallery < plugin.tx_rgsmoothgallery_pi1
10:23 rait plugin.tt_news.rgsmoothgallery {
10:23 rait limitImagesDisplayed=1
10:23 rait big {
10:23 rait file.width = 226c
10:23 rait file.height = 150c
10:23 rait }
10:23 rait lightbox = 0
10:23 rait height = 150
10:23 rait width = 226
10:23 rait showThumbs= 0
10:23 paese rait stop spamming!
10:23 rait arrows = 0
10:23 rait hideInfoPane = 0
10:24 rait duration = 0
10:24 rait }
10:24 paese raid are you stupid?
10:24 rait yeah
10:24 rait this is my TS
10:24 paese yeah, use a PASTIE
10:24 rait sorry bout that
10:24 rait pastie? sorry, I'm not sure what you mean
10:24 WinstonS http://pastebin.ca/ for example
10:24 paese paste your code somewhere where we canr ead it
10:25 rait heh, ok thanks for the pointer
10:25 paese thx WinstonS
10:25 WinstonS reading the channel topic would've been a pointer also ;)
10:25 rait absolutely my bad :)
10:25 paese ^^
10:26 rait ok, lemme try that again...
10:26 rait http://pastebin.ca/1761322 this is my TS :) can anyone spot anything wrong with it
10:27 rait that would cause it not to limit the number of images to 1
10:28 paese erm..
10:28 sperber hmm, does anyone of you know a typo3 nopaste/pastebin extension?
10:28 paese is rgsmoothgallery a part in tt_new?
10:28 sperber haven't found anything in ter so far
10:28 rait it's an addon
10:28 paese okay
10:28 rait hold on, let me find the link
10:29 rait http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/rgsmoothgallery/current/
10:29 sperber http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/rgsmoothgallery/1.5.1/view/1/4/ <- that one?
10:30 rait yeah, that one
10:38 paese how can i append custom, already set GET params to some ususal typo3 menu?
10:39 WinstonS noobie question alert: "sub groups" are a specialisation of "user groups", aren't they? say i've got two user groups "registered" and "admin". if i make "admin" a sub group of "registered", does this mean: "all admin users are registered users also"?
10:41 PiMB if you make admin a sub group of registered then it means that all registered are also admin
10:42 sperber that wouldn't make sense?
10:42 WinstonS oh. ok. thanks. then i better wont do that ;)
10:42 WinstonS so it's vice versa. i'd rather make "registered" a sub group of "admin"
10:44 untouch has anyone ever had problems with flahs films in typo3 getting contents from xml files and the xml files just wont be found
10:46 PiMB sperber, what wouldn't?
10:47 untouch ok other question: has anyone ever used flash films with xml in typo 3?
10:48 sperber that the parent group inherits everything from the childgroup?
10:50 WinstonS sperber, if i understood PiMB correctly, in t3 "sub groups" extend the parent group.
10:51 sperber wth... - he is right - just tried it - but it makes no sense to me
10:51 WinstonS heh, to me that's somewhat unusual. my inheritance tree is like your's i guess
10:51 sperber normal
10:53 WinstonS hmm... i should check some t3 sites for unintended admin rights ;)
10:53 SargoDarya lol
10:54 sperber PiMB: when you have a group with general rights like view some pages etc and you have another group who may view the same pages and a few additional ones - how would that group hierarchy look?
10:54 SargoDarya It's like classes. You may extend them to any amount you want with adding a new class
10:54 PiMB true.
10:55 PiMB you have the default, his own, and add whatever it needs to the sub.
10:55 BejjWrk heya PiMB :)
10:56 PiMB hi
10:57 PiMB sperber, I would create a group with the settings that are the most shared, and add another or a sub to add the additional
10:58 sperber which means A = mother, B = child | B may do whatever A may do + whatever B may do
10:58 sperber right?
10:59 animan hi. is there a simple way to generate numbers before menu items using TS (not CSS)?
10:59 PiMB it's not a matter of B can do orf A can do.
10:59 PiMB user can do whatever is set in A and B
11:01 sperber blah - abstraction A -> a, B -> a [X ... Group, x... User]
11:01 sperber blah - abstraction A -> a, B -> b [X ... Group, x... User]
11:02 sperber which means user b has more permissions than user a given that group B adds special permissions
11:04 WinstonS that was what i was thinking
11:04 sperber had an error in my testing... - looking again..
11:05 sperber according to my test it's exactly that way
11:05 untouch ok i put this flashfilm wich gets its content from an xml file via JS into a html content element
11:05 WinstonS imho "sub groups" is a bit unfortunate choice. "additional groups" would be a better wording
11:05 untouch 1) all paths are correct
11:05 untouch 2) without typo3 it works
11:06 untouch in FF i get Error #2044: IOErrorEvent unverarbeitet. text=Error #2036: Ladevorgang nicht abgeschlossen.
11:06 untouch and in IE it says nothing and it dont work either
11:06 untouch any clues?
11:06 untouch looks like its something wrong with the swf finding the xml file
11:07 untouch but why does it work on a html site and not on typo3
11:07 sperber i have a page [b] with B group-permissions, user test in group A doesn
11:07 sperber 't see that page - but when he is in group B he does
11:08 sperber which means it is the normal permission structure - not some reverse thing
11:08 untouch i also checked my action script if theres anything wrong with the paths - seeems to be ok
11:08 sperber WinstonS: give it a try yourself - i'd be curious about your result
11:10 untouch the swf loader just doesnt finish and the jpgs from xml dont get loadet
11:10 untouch can anyone help me
11:11 sperber WinstonS: <PiMB> sperber, I would create a group with the settings that are the most shared, and add another or a sub to add the additional <- it's exactly what you did - registered as mother and admins as sub
11:11 WinstonS untouch, not me, sorry.
11:13 WinstonS sperber, PiMB: yep. that's my understanding of "sub groups". i'll try to think of them as "additions" by now. like a logic OR operation.
11:13 WinstonS rights( A.withSubGroup( B ) ) = rights( A ) v rights( B )
11:18 elmargol somehow most of the new features in typo 3.4 are hidden from me
11:18 elmargol Do I have to enable those features somehow?
11:19 elmargol I don't have the flash file uploader, and I don't see the typo script editor
11:20 sperber did you run the update procedure?
11:20 sperber there is an update wizard in the install tool
11:20 elmargol I did
11:21 elmargol the backend looks different... I just miss some features from the pdf presentation i just found online
11:27 sperber PiMB: sorry - i made a mistake during my tests (i interpreted the subgroup selection as "choose the parent group") - you are of course right
11:36 PiMB thanks mate, always good to here that :)
11:36 paese i want to add a userFunc to a tmenu to achive some processing but i can't get it to work.. where do i have to put the userFunc= statement exactly to get some params into my php function ?
11:36 paese tsref says i should put it into typolink.userFunc but that won't work
11:36 maholtz|WORK @PiMB didnt you had that tt_news 3.0 problem with not showing cached content? what was the solution?
11:37 PiMB nope sorry mate, wasn't me
11:37 maholtz|WORK ok, thx
11:37 PiMB but I guess you have the same issue now?
11:37 maholtz|WORK @paese: why do you think typolink.userFunc does not work? did you include lib
11:37 maholtz|WORK @PiMB not yet, but i am sure i will some day:)
11:38 bartbogdan OK guys I found out what was bugging indexed search!
11:38 paese maholtz|WORK because my debug output is not visible. i haven't included the lib because i wantet wo access the function who's in an extension which is loaded
11:39 bartbogdan sys_language_uid was not correspinding to the sys language of the content!
11:39 bartbogdan See this bug: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=13108
11:39 maholtz|WORK @paese: includeLibs.yourext = yourclassor
11:39 PiMB bartbogdan, good to know.
11:39 PiMB thanks mate
11:39 bartbogdan Thanks for your help Prot0
11:39 maholtz|WORK @pease: perhaps your userFunc doesnt work, because your class does not get loaded
11:39 paese okay
11:41 WinstonS hmm. "login user track" does not seem to work properly. i logged in some frontend users and they do not show up. is there any option i've got to set?
11:44 PiMB I believe you have to select the sysfolder where your users are located to even show up
11:45 WinstonS i did. nothing. lemme try another browser ;)
11:46 WinstonS they should show up right after login, or is there a delay?
11:46 PiMB I guess right after login.
11:46 PiMB just a sec. let me check. I use it myself
11:47 WinstonS thanks.
11:48 WinstonS i use a seperate sysfolder to store my users and user groups. i click "user track", click the sysfolder and get a nice table "LOG". which is empty, even after having logged in a frontend user
11:48 PiMB I get the log table as well.
11:48 WinstonS are there login entries?
11:49 PiMB but also users in there when the correct sys is selected
11:49 PiMB and even from seconds ago.
11:49 PiMB check your fe_users table and check if the field last_login is filled for the user that you've used to login.
11:50 WinstonS lemme check...
11:52 WinstonS yep. username and lastlogin are apparently set correctly in fe_users;
11:54 PiMB and you've added config.tx_loginusertrack_enable = 1 to one of your templates right?
11:54 Denjerek Finally
11:54 Denjerek goddamn connction has been giving me hell
11:55 WinstonS PiMB, chances are that i did not, of course. lemme check ;)
11:55 PiMB might be a reason..
11:58 WinstonS that did the trick. thank you PiMB. looks like i was missing that while reading the documentation.
11:58 PiMB I can see why.
11:58 PiMB a lot of text on that particular page...
11:59 WinstonS *lol*
12:00 WinstonS true. i can hardly find that option in that mess of a text
12:04 Denjerek I think Typo3 is the first peice of software I've used where I had to learn HOW to read the manuals...
12:06 WinstonS it's not even this bad. you just have to get used to.
12:06 WinstonS i tried/wanted to/had to read way worse manuals and rfcs ;)
12:22 ZaFantasy hi
12:23 ZaFantasy Im using typolink function but I dont get out a link but just a text? What Im doing wrong ?
12:25 teppi|working ZaFantasy, just a sec I will have a look in my crystal ball ..
12:25 teppi|working ZaFantasy, ahhh .. i see .. you are using wrong parameters!
12:27 ZaFantasy http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-0304c5698b/
12:29 ZaFantasy so which parameters are wrong ?
12:32 paese so, what's wrong here? http://pastebin.ca/1761396 ^ ^
13:04 WinstonS how can i allow a backend user to change visibility of an element?
13:07 paese WinstonS check your excludes
13:07 paese in a register, you can set those options for a user or group
13:07 paese it's a veeerrryyy long list ;9
13:07 paese ;)
13:08 WinstonS the excludepages? lemme check...
13:08 paese erm..
13:08 paese hm.. wait a sec, i'm also looking where it was
13:10 paese okay
13:10 paese WinstonS you need to create a backendgroup
13:10 paese and there you will find "access lists"
13:11 WinstonS works, thank you :)
13:11 WinstonS i missed them indeed.
13:11 WinstonS at times i'm just blind
13:11 paese np
13:50 ndee in templavoila, I mapped an element as a linkfield and it generated &lt;a href=&quot;index.php?id=cetest_firstpage&quot; &gt;Technologie&lt;/a&gt; instead of <a href=.... Is there a way how I can prevent that a "<" gets converted to a &lt; ?
13:55 paese ndee just map the attribute href="#", it's all you need
13:55 paese instead of the element
13:55 ndee paese: well, I found out what the problem was, the element was set to hsc = 1 but it had to be hsc = 0 :)
13:55 paese ndee ok :)
13:57 paese i did an iprocFunc for a custom menu. how can i disable cache for this menu? i don't want to pass &no_cache=1 to each param
14:00 animan hi. does anyone know how to make a numbered menu with TS where i could also use expAll with active page?
14:00 animan I've tried this -- http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/menus/numbered-menu.html
14:00 animan but i cannot use anything with ACT
14:01 paese animan i don't get the idea behind this, but why don't you generate a menu with <ol> instead of <ul> ?
14:02 animan well, the <ol> vs <ul> is not important. what is important is typoscript generated numbers so I could modify them later
14:03 paese oh, okay
14:06 animan i currnetly have this code for the menu -- http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/ts_menu/
14:07 WinstonS i try to modify the template (html and css) i'm using right now, but it does not show up on the front end. what am i missing this time?
14:12 paese winstonS templavoila?
14:13 WinstonS yep. for css it was a typo i made. i changed the html page template and it does not "propagate"
14:13 WinstonS mapping did not change. i just added some text into a <div></div>
14:14 paese check your mapping » header parts
14:15 WinstonS what do you mean?
14:15 Nixraff I have a TYPO3 installation where everything from ImageMagick is working fine except PDF and AI. If I do the image tests in the Install Tool, the PDF and AI test both return: "There was no result from the ImageMagick operation".
14:15 paese have you included the css in the Template object's header parts?
14:16 WinstonS yep. the css is included alright. (i just made a typo and did not see any change because of that. the change appeared as soon as i fixed the typo)
14:16 paese nixraff go to install tool » basic configuration, scroll down to save and press. sometimes T3 updates IM settings by itself then. maybe it helps
14:17 Nixraff i installed the ghostscript but i dont know where to set any paarmeter for GS
14:18 paese Nixraff as far as i know you don't have to do settings...
14:18 paese is php compiled with ghostscript? just installing ghostscript is useless
14:19 paese if so, maybe safe_mode restricts the access
14:19 paese btw.. you're working with unix/linux, right?
14:19 WinstonS safe_mode should be "off" anyways.
14:20 paese haha.. tell this my hosters -.-
14:20 Nixraff no, its Windows with IIS 6
14:20 paese aah..
14:20 paese okay, maybe the problem lies there
14:20 Nixraff safe mode ist "off"
14:21 WinstonS paese, future will tell your hosters. safe_mode is deprecated as of php 5.3 ;)
14:21 paese winstonS i' still in hope :D
14:21 WinstonS any idea about the html template thingy? do i have to remap every time i change the html template file?
14:22 paese nope you don't have to
14:22 paese but clear your cache often when you're working with templavoila
14:22 paese oh, and changes in html .. then you need to just "save" the template again. and clear cache afterwards
14:22 paese tv keeps an old copy for security reasons
14:22 Denyerec i
14:22 Denyerec WinstonS
14:22 Denyerec There is a caveat
14:23 Denyerec will explain when I get back on site in 5 mins
14:25 WinstonS ok, thanks again. curious about the caveat now, tho ;)
14:25 paese me 2
14:26 paese but clearing cache had always helped ^^
14:27 WinstonS tried that
14:28 WinstonS where can i save the template again? i go to list and into my storage folder and see a TV data structure and a TV template object there. how to continue?
14:30 Denjerek WinstonS: you there?
14:31 WinstonS yep, and wb
14:31 paese so.. lets see the caveat :;d
14:31 paese :D
14:34 Denjerek Right I was just gonna say
14:35 Denjerek if you relatively map your elements, that is, to items without IDs
14:35 Denjerek then depending on the extent of your HTML changes you may well end up remapping things.
14:35 Denjerek Which is why it's a reasonable practice to, where possible, stick ID's on the elements that you know you'er going to be mapping to
14:36 Denjerek Just makes life a little easier.
14:36 Denjerek (At least that's how I find it)
14:36 WinstonS my template is fairly easy so far. as root i use a container div, as menu area a menu div, as content area a content div. all unique with <div id="something">
14:36 Denjerek Good
14:36 Denjerek If they have Id's then you can pretty much murder the HTML without too much concern
14:36 Denjerek Occasionally you see people who map straight to "some span"
14:36 Denjerek and then a change in the HTML can obviously throw that out
14:36 WinstonS *lol* true.
14:37 Denjerek 's just one of those "Gotchas"
14:37 WinstonS and i have to modify ds/to in order for the changes in the template to show up in the frontend?
14:37 Phlogi Denjerek: congrats to that mail... good job
14:38 Denjerek Uh oh
14:39 Denjerek Have I upset everyone again?
14:39 paese haha xD
14:39 Denjerek I'm not kidding :(
14:39 Denjerek actually Phlogi - *which* email
14:39 WinstonS yea. i'm totally in rage already.
14:39 Denjerek there's several I'm expecting to get flamed for.
14:40 paese but why? like to talk sarcastic? or are you just that direct that others feel attacked by it?
14:40 Denjerek WinstonS: yes if you change the underlying html you have to "update mapping" and then "save as" to make sure TV caches the new HTML.
14:40 Denjerek No, I have a ... quirky manner of speaking that 95% of non-english people seem to radically misinterpret.
14:40 Phlogi Denjerek: about that security thing on typo3.org
14:40 Denjerek that's the one I was expecting Phlogi :(
14:40 Phlogi Denjerek: ;)
14:40 paese may i see the mail? i'm wondering about this... xD
14:40 Denjerek Knew I shouldn't have opened my mouth as soon as I hit "Send"
14:41 Phlogi Denjerek: you did it perfectly... really
14:41 Denjerek You gotta admit I have at least a small point.
14:41 Denjerek But I think others will mi-interpret my language
14:41 Denjerek (As usual)
14:41 Denjerek it's worst with Americans
14:41 Phlogi Denjerek: no I don't think so
14:41 Denjerek Hoooolllllyy crap I get so much flak from the Yanks.
14:42 Denjerek And I never mean to cause a stir, they just don't speak English!
14:42 Denjerek They speak "American", which I believe is English with all the subtlety stripped out.
14:42 paese oh, denjerek you're from UK?
14:42 Denjerek ja.
14:42 paese i need an explanation
14:43 paese i were on vacation in london.. on november
14:43 Denjerek WinstonS: one good thing about Typo3 compared to wannabe CMS's is that you can rollback changes to pretty much any record you've touched.
14:43 WinstonS Denjerek, thank you
14:43 WinstonS right now i do rollbacks in the vm ;)
14:43 Denjerek Which means if you balls up a DS/TO like cmyk did yesterday, you can rollback at the click of a button.
14:43 WinstonS my snapshot tree looks quite crazy already
14:43 Denjerek Where are you from paese ?
14:43 paese Denjerek switzerland
14:44 Prot0 dude
14:44 Prot0 /whois ;]
14:44 Denjerek I have only seen two parts of Switzerland, Lucern and Mt Titlis.
14:44 Prot0 UK
14:44 WinstonS Prot0: ;] No such nick/channel
14:44 WinstonS hehehe
14:44 Prot0 lol
14:44 Prot0 /whois [nick]
14:44 Denjerek :)
14:44 Prot0 ;]
14:44 paese Denjerek why does every taxi cab drive away when you ask him "how much"?
14:44 Denjerek It doesn't seem to know who Nick is either.
14:44 Denjerek Hahaha
14:44 kraftb hello !
14:44 Denjerek Hey kraft
14:45 Prot0 hi
14:45 Denjerek London cab drivers are an interesting species...
14:45 WinstonS lucern, me likes :)
14:45 kraftb hey denjerek, prot0
14:45 WinstonS hi kraft
14:45 kraftb hi winstons
14:45 Denjerek Their meters work both on time and distance, so when you ask "how much" they can't answer you because they don't know yet.
14:45 Denjerek Also I think they think that someone who is concerned about the cost won't be happy when they're asked to pay, and would much rather find someone who doesn't care about their money
14:45 paese aah.. okay. but they all looked really pissed off after i asked
14:46 paese hm. okay. thanks :D
14:46 Denjerek Yeah it's one of those things they really should explain at the airport :)
14:46 paese hehe
14:46 Denjerek In Germany no doubt the cab drivers can tell you the exact cost , via SMS, before you hail the cab :D
14:46 WinstonS uhm. no.
14:46 Denjerek Awww.
14:46 WinstonS in germany they can tell you're a tourist and will take some extra miles
14:46 WinstonS ;)
14:47 Denjerek Hahahaha
14:47 WinstonS "hey, havn't we seen this building three times already? - naah, that's just berlin block-style buildings, they look the same everywhere..."
14:47 paese hahaha
14:48 paese ah, i think they also do this if you're not a tourist, but from another city
14:48 WinstonS that classifies as tourist already *g*
14:48 paese xD
14:49 Prot0 its busy in this chan lately :]
14:49 paese maybe he saw that i was running across the town, sweating when i saw him and told him where to put me ^^
14:50 paese don't we all just need a daily loss of productivity?
14:50 Prot0 :D
14:50 Prot0 well not really lol
14:50 Prot0 busy enough as it is
14:50 paese no, really. i got boring work to do so i'm happy to stop for 5 minutes, get a coffe and chat a bit
14:51 paese migrating pages from ugly cms' to typo3 with the same ugly design.. one after another.
14:51 Prot0 I envy you ;]
14:51 paese ;p
14:51 Prot0 coffee can be a real lifesaver
14:52 WinstonS true
14:53 paese only if you don't drink it everyday
14:53 Denjerek Or if you need to put out a really small fire.
14:53 WinstonS unfortunately i dont. on most day "something quite as but not nearly as good as" coffee has to suffice
14:54 Denjerek Migration is a pain, but at least you're not migrating to Mambo.
14:54 Denjerek that really feels like dead-end work.
14:54 paese nope, but i had to do a joomla "blog". a copy from another blog. with special wishes
14:54 paese that was ugly
14:55 Denjerek *shudder*
14:56 WinstonS *brr*
14:56 Denjerek Just amazing how so many less capable CMSs get the limelight
14:56 Denjerek *cough* security email *cough*
14:56 paese Denjerek is it on the official mailing list?
14:56 Denjerek Aye
14:56 paese i'm really wondering.. :d
14:56 paese :D
14:56 paese link?
14:56 Denjerek I think it went to teams.typo3org
14:57 Denjerek How would I link to it?
14:57 Denjerek I use the Newsreader inside opera
14:57 paese never mind :9
14:57 paese :)
15:33 Phlogi Denjerek: the problem is distraction... did you know that you need about 20minutes to get the conentration back to what you were doing before you read this
15:39 paese can someone forerun time, please?
15:40 Denjerek Damn you phlogi
15:40 Denjerek You just bummed me for another 20,
15:40 Phlogi Denjerek: ha! :D
15:40 paese hahah :D
15:40 Phlogi Denjerek: its true... maybe not 20, but its true and a big problem ;)
15:40 Denjerek You're so right though
15:40 Denjerek Today it has taken me a long time to write very little code.
15:40 paese Phlogi, 20 minutes, really? that seems too long for me
15:40 Denjerek The good news is that it does, at least, work.
15:40 Phlogi hehe
15:40 Denjerek Looking forward to getting home to try and write DAM into a simple gallery extension.
15:41 Denjerek now that I found the DAM example plugin :)
15:41 Denjerek Given that I couldn't find any actual developer documentation
15:42 paese has someone already tried to create an extesion based on the extension tools from T3 4.3? mvc and such..? i just know the old way but hadn't any chance to try the new approach. ist if easier?
15:42 paese *is it..
15:42 Denjerek Aparrently it is.
15:42 Denjerek there's an example extension
15:42 Phlogi if you are not used to it , its not :)
15:42 Denjerek and I see on the list that a lot of people are trying to use it for things.
15:42 Phlogi but the concept is the way to go
15:43 paese okay
15:43 Phlogi I'm waiting on a book about extbase :)
15:43 paese mvc concept is not the problem, it's the framework functions and tutorials to get into
15:44 Denjerek Yeah likewise.
15:44 Denjerek I work so much better if I can go through a walked example
15:44 Denjerek rather than just being smacked in the face with an API.
15:44 paese +1
15:46 Denjerek Opera Newsreader == Win
15:48 WinstonS i got Opera Bork version somewhere on some disk
15:50 Denjerek Bork?
15:50 Denjerek I'm hopping up and down waiting for 10.50
15:50 Phlogi opera, pff
15:50 Denjerek that's fightin' talk
15:50 Denjerek Right there
15:50 Denjerek ;)
15:50 Denjerek I really need to screengrab how I have the UI set up
15:51 Denjerek it's great
15:51 JohPie Bork? Bork is a City in the near of Dortmund in Germany
15:51 paese really?
15:51 paese haha..
15:52 WinstonS the bork edition. the one released to translate microsoft pages into chefspeak, as reply to microsoft crippling their pages on purpose when detecting an opera useragent
15:52 Phlogi Denjerek: is it still such a pain to get a decent ad blocker in opera?
15:52 Denjerek its built in
15:52 Denjerek I just downloaded a master list
15:52 Phlogi Denjerek: no, where? with filters? auto bllock?
15:52 Denjerek popped it in my profile
15:52 Denjerek haven't seen an ad since.
15:53 Denjerek You can right click a page and go "Block stuff"
15:53 Denjerek click on the stuff you don't want, and it'll filter those hosts.
15:53 paese In addition, you can use google bork! » http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/
15:53 Phlogi by hand right? thats painful ;)
15:53 Denjerek Only to customise
15:53 Denjerek I installed a one-off master list
15:53 Denjerek one-time deal
15:53 WinstonS i prefer http://www.google.com/intl/xx-elmer/ ;)
15:53 Denjerek it's not *quite* as good as Adblock Plus, but the other benefits of Opera, for me, outweight that for FF
15:54 Phlogi chromium ftw
15:54 Denjerek And 10.50 is gonna be kapow fast
15:55 WinstonS lynx!
15:56 Denjerek here check: http://site.denyerec.operaunite.com/file_sharing/ password: typo
15:58 WinstonS doesnt even look bad
15:58 Denjerek shared it over opera unite cos I couldn't be bothered uploading it someplace
16:02 WinstonS and of course that's some opera "click and upload" thingy, isn't it? ;)
16:02 Denjerek Just hosts content off my computer
16:02 Denjerek and quietly through the work firewall...
16:03 Denjerek You could see a slideshow on my home machine if I could remember the login :D
16:03 Denjerek As I think that's currently serving something.
16:03 Denjerek Alas, my poor memory forbids it.
16:03 Denjerek VERBOTEN!
16:04 WinstonS i forget my passwords all the time. i should start writing them down on yellow post-its.
16:06 ndee did the translation of tt_news change in the 3.0 version?
16:08 paese WinstonS try KeePassX
16:11 WinstonS then the first thing i'd forget is my master password ;)
16:11 paese xD
16:18 ndee I mapped the content of a div to lib.sitetitle, how can I now configure it in typoscript that there should display always the current page title?
16:19 vizitator23145 enter http://PayToClickKings.Tk and start make some $ ONLINE .. JUST STARTED !
16:19 paese ndee write a special = rootline menu in TS
16:19 paese but with a smaller range
16:20 paese i also had to use this but couldn't find it out. that was my solution
16:20 paese i can paste you the code if you want
16:20 ndee paese: sweet, gonna try that too :) yes, if you could paste it, that would be great :)
16:20 paese alright? i got 1h to go :-/
16:22 WinstonS dunno. depends on my flow
16:22 paese @ndee http://pastie.org/789860 just remove the NO.allWrap and change it to NO = 1 .. and customize special.range
16:22 paese WinstonS uinfortunately my time isn't based on workflow.. :-/
16:22 WinstonS arhm.
16:22 paese ahh.. time tool says 35 minutes left xD
16:23 paese even better
16:23 ndee paese: sweet! thanks!
16:23 paese ndee np
16:23 ndee paese: I thought your name was pretty swiss :D
16:24 paese mmh.. its relative. i've chosen ae because ä maks trouble. paese itself would be something italian ^ ^
16:25 paese and english people would always guess if they should write pase or pose if i would have a nick "päse" xD
16:25 Denjerek Is "Time Tool" the new word for "Clock" ?
16:26 paese Denjerek erm.. let me check the dictionary
16:26 Denjerek :)
16:26 paese "time regsitration tool"
16:26 Denjerek in opera, that's just "d clock"
16:26 paese *registration
16:26 paese damn..
16:26 Denjerek Overting the *hideous* new corporate-overload dictionary.com frontpage
16:26 Denjerek which is the best show of corporate sell-out I've ever seen
16:26 Denjerek Oh they've changed it!
16:26 Denjerek *sadface*
16:26 paese haha
16:27 Denjerek it was a MASSIVE advert for a cleaning product
16:27 Denjerek like.. the entire site
16:27 paese i was curious why you said sell-out
16:27 Denjerek with just the dictionary search box in the center
16:27 paese but now i think its pretty clean
16:27 Denjerek Yeah it's back to normal.
16:27 Denjerek I wonder what that was alla bout.
16:27 paese mmh.. sometimes pages "sell" itself. a free newspaper in switzerland sometimes has a completely different color and thousands of flash banners when a provider does some marketing
16:28 paese but it's ugly
16:31 WinstonS i'm glad that there's noscript.
16:32 paese btw is it usual that uk companies have ultra-long self-speaking no-period-for-words-spacing urls? :)
16:32 paese that was something i remembered when i was there
16:32 paese e.g. myultrabigukcompanydoesthis.co.uk
16:47 Denjerek Bit of an odd question
16:47 Denjerek but is anyone here into either Photography or Textiles ?
16:47 WinstonS photography. a bit.
16:47 Denjerek I'm looking for the name of the material that you see inside camera bags that's kinda furry, that velcro sticks to.
16:48 Denjerek It's not just the "loop" part of velcro, though.
16:48 Denjerek It's a fuzzy material.
16:48 WinstonS fleece, by chance?
16:49 Denjerek Fleece might be close
16:49 Denjerek but it needs to not degrade after just a few uses.
16:49 Denjerek The KATA bags and Crumpler bags use a lot of it.
16:50 WinstonS hmmm. gotto check the labels of my camera bags, maybe they mention it.
16:50 WinstonS tho the bag isnt very "fleecy"
16:50 WinstonS s/aren't/
16:51 Denjerek which do you have?
16:51 Denjerek I have a Lowepro Mini Trekker, which doesn't have said lining.
16:52 WinstonS some canon camera bag. nothing too special
16:52 WinstonS and some other, cant rememebr the brand right now
16:55 WinstonS gotto go.
16:55 WinstonS have a nice weekend guys
16:55 WinstonS and thank you :)
17:00 paese so, see you on monday
17:04 Denjerek GVD...
17:44 Xilent hi i'm searching for the value register:totalwidth in imageStdWrap.dataWrap, where is it configured?
18:18 atmos4 hi
18:19 atmos4 does anyone besides me have the problem, that the page tree pane collapses on editing a page?
18:19 atmos4 I've seen this on at least two typo3 systems with different versions (4.2.6 and 4.3.1)
21:24 brutuz ho
21:24 brutuz hi.
21:24 brutuz is there a way for typo3 to connect to mysql on a non standard port?
21:45 Denyerec hmm
21:46 Denyerec Do you have to speficy a port or is thta down to the mysql config within PHP?
21:53 Prot0 you should be able to do that yes
23:53 sperber hmmm, what would you guys use to blog? - timtab or t3blog?

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