| 00:01 |
timdeluxe |
yeah ok, now i understand |
| 07:50 |
menak |
hi |
| 08:28 |
MasterYin |
good morning everyone |
| 08:31 |
MasterYin |
any ideas why http://paste.phlogi.net/-bda2d3a3e2/ does not work... I only want my link to be displayed in bold if there is a category |
| 08:41 |
endegraaf |
hi all |
| 08:43 |
ycas |
morning |
| 08:55 |
PiMB |
morning all |
| 09:24 |
Prot0 |
morning |
| 09:34 |
WinstonS |
hey's |
| 09:39 |
Prot0 |
hello |
| 09:40 |
PiMB |
wassup! |
| 09:45 |
WinstonS |
noobie question to start the day ;) how do i set the "display mode" of sr_feuser_register? all i've got is the CODE field where i can enter CREATE etc. i thought i've seen a dropdown list for those values somewhere... |
| 09:49 |
Denjerek |
I'm going to guess that you need to use a different marker in the template. |
| 09:49 |
WinstonS |
i dont use markers at all right now. |
| 09:49 |
PiMB |
WinstonS, I believe the field is the way to go. I've seen it before. |
| 09:50 |
PiMB |
might be that a later version of the ext has a dropdown. |
| 09:50 |
WinstonS |
i just insert a new page content element, set the type to "plugin" and chose the front end user registration |
| 09:50 |
WinstonS |
according to EM there's no update |
| 09:50 |
Denjerek |
But the plugin must use a remplate. |
| 09:50 |
Denjerek |
*template |
| 09:51 |
Denjerek |
Oh wait |
| 09:51 |
Denjerek |
waaaait |
| 09:51 |
Denjerek |
Sorry |
| 09:51 |
Denjerek |
BE |
| 09:51 |
Denjerek |
:) |
| 09:51 |
WinstonS |
yay ;) |
| 09:51 |
Denjerek |
As you might be able to tell, I only just woke up |
| 09:51 |
WinstonS |
same here. i'm still kind of sleepytyping ;) |
| 09:52 |
WinstonS |
strange enough, i think i remember seeing the dropdown in one of my previous tries. i just cant remember where / how i've seen it. |
| 09:52 |
WinstonS |
all documentation is like "set the display mode". they just dont tell where to set it ;) |
| 10:04 |
kotelette |
Just wanted to download the typo3 sources and now sourceforge is down :( |
| 10:05 |
kotelette |
maybe too cold to deliver downloads ;-) |
| 10:05 |
BejjWrk |
works for me |
| 10:05 |
BejjWrk |
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/typo3/TYPO3%20Source%20and%20Dummy/TYPO3%204.3.1/typo3_src-4.3.1.tar.gz?use_mirror=garr |
| 10:06 |
kotelette |
hmm that loink works, i used the download section on typo3.org... always returns a bas request... |
| 10:06 |
kotelette |
thx anyway |
| 10:06 |
BejjWrk |
np |
| 10:08 |
Denjerek |
WinstonS: I think I've seen the dropdown you speak of in tt_news |
| 10:08 |
Denjerek |
where they have LIST, SINGLE etc |
| 10:09 |
WinstonS |
chances are i confused it with ve_guestbook. |
| 10:12 |
tPl0ch |
hmm, if I want to add a regex string via t3editor, do I have to write it like /^\\$[A-Fa-f0-9]{190}\\$$/ |
| 10:18 |
tPl0ch |
everytime I save the editor, one backslash disapperas |
| 10:19 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 10:20 |
Prot0 |
ok thats pretty annoying |
| 10:20 |
WinstonS |
uhm. sounds like unescaping. did you try \\\\ ? |
| 10:20 |
PiMB |
that's like removeslashes function |
| 10:20 |
WinstonS |
/^\\\\ -> should unescape to two \\ |
| 10:20 |
WinstonS |
which, in next turn gets interpreted as "search for a \" |
| 10:21 |
WinstonS |
"two \\" aka "two \" aka "\\" |
| 10:23 |
WinstonS |
is there any way i can restrict access to front pages to back end users? |
| 10:24 |
Prot0 |
only to groups |
| 10:25 |
WinstonS |
ok, thanks |
| 10:25 |
PiMB |
anybody here has experience using ldap and TYPO3? |
| 10:26 |
PiMB |
maybe some manual or something? |
| 10:36 |
nd |
How can I make ajax calls from a backend-module? I'd prefer not to go over frontend-plugins... |
| 10:37 |
nd |
Is there a way to register a backend-module on a different pagetype, like with fe-plugins? |
| 10:53 |
maholtz|WORK |
morning:) |
| 10:55 |
Prot0 |
hola |
| 10:56 |
PiMB |
hi |
| 10:56 |
WinstonS |
hoi |
| 10:58 |
MasterYin |
morning to all of you |
| 10:58 |
Zillion |
morning |
| 10:58 |
Prot0 |
szia |
| 10:58 |
BejjWrk |
morning |
| 10:59 |
Prot0 |
dang, im liking that increase in IRC activity in #typo3 :] |
| 11:02 |
PiMB |
true, bit hard to keep up the conversation sometimes, but like the peoples here |
| 11:02 |
marvin_zumx-ten |
hi yall |
| 11:03 |
marvin_zumx-ten |
finally managed to get irc to work ... didn't imagine to make such troubles |
| 11:03 |
Prot0 |
:] true |
| 11:05 |
WinstonS |
why using cgi::irc firstplace? ;) |
| 11:05 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 11:10 |
Denjerek |
Bloody RealURL is going to mess with Google |
| 11:10 |
Denjerek |
Goddamnit |
| 11:10 |
Denjerek |
That stupid Exclude from Speaking URL thing is STILL causing me trouble. |
| 11:12 |
Prot0 |
Denjerek: using the latest version of realurl? |
| 11:13 |
Denjerek |
Yep. |
| 11:13 |
Prot0 |
(reading up on the mailinglist ;]) |
| 11:13 |
Denjerek |
It just seems to be completely random. |
| 11:14 |
No5251 |
Denjerek: installed an upgrade before? is simulate static documents activated? |
| 11:16 |
Prot0 |
seems to be a problem with realurl yes, did you place it in bugs.typo3.org? |
| 11:18 |
marvin_x1 |
and here we go again :-/ |
| 11:18 |
sorenmalling |
Can someone help me getting the value from .20 (line 19) into the additionalParams (line 28) - http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-cfc77a7f31/ |
| 11:18 |
marvin_x1 |
yeah. the irc.cgi isn't the best, but the opera client wouldn't work at all |
| 11:18 |
sorenmalling |
And if possible make .10 the text of the link :) |
| 11:20 |
marvin_x1 |
sry, soren. can't help u |
| 11:21 |
Prot0 |
erm |
| 11:21 |
WinstonS |
windows? mirc. |
| 11:21 |
WinstonS |
if your firewall allows irc connections, that is. |
| 11:22 |
PiMB |
FF has plugin for irc chat |
| 11:22 |
marvin_x1 |
is there a 'no-install-version'? |
| 11:22 |
Denjerek |
Prot0: not yet, not. |
| 11:22 |
marvin_x1 |
have trouble with the 'no-admin-policy' here ;) |
| 11:22 |
Denjerek |
The reason being is that I know Dmitry is a flamethrower |
| 11:22 |
Denjerek |
so I'm trying to make 100000% sure that it's a bug and not user error. |
| 11:22 |
PiMB |
good point ;) |
| 11:22 |
WinstonS |
marvin_x1, of mirc? not that i know of. if you need something portable try pidgin portable, it should be able to handle irc also. |
| 11:23 |
PiMB |
else there will be a rtfm coming your way |
| 11:23 |
Denjerek |
marvin_x1: Install Opera :D |
| 11:23 |
Denjerek |
Exactly PiMBm |
| 11:23 |
Prot0 |
sorenmalling: perhaps take a look at this: http://sebastiaandejonge.com/articles/2010/januari/cool-typoscript-alphabetical-list-with-split-and-if.html |
| 11:23 |
marvin_x1 |
i'm using opera ^^ |
| 11:23 |
marvin_x1 |
i'll give that another try, but for now the cgi seems to work |
| 11:24 |
sorenmalling |
Prot0: Nice example, looks like what i need! :) I'll have a look at it' |
| 11:24 |
WinstonS |
*sigh* another noobie question... i installed tt_news and added the marker "<!--###NEWS###-->" to my html template. how do i get tt_news to use this marker? |
| 11:25 |
Prot0 |
not exactly what i think you want, but should help you on your way :] |
| 11:25 |
sorenmalling |
It got the functionality with adding a split value to additionalParams, so it's perfect! :-) |
| 11:26 |
marvin_x1 |
you're also working on a t3 blog, winstons? |
| 11:26 |
WinstonS |
yep. and i'm still a totyl t3 noob |
| 11:27 |
marvin_x1 |
same here. |
| 11:27 |
WinstonS |
or can i use templavoila to add mapping to the template? like "put the news list into this container"? |
| 11:28 |
marvin_x2 |
narf |
| 11:28 |
WinstonS |
marvin_x2, mirc ;) |
| 11:28 |
marvin_x2 |
yo ... next time i'll bring my portable miranda |
| 11:29 |
marvin_x2 |
anyhoo..i also have to get a blog working. is tt_news a good choice or are there better solutions available? |
| 11:30 |
WinstonS |
not that i know of, which doesnt mean too much, tho. |
| 11:31 |
marvin_x2 |
the more i googeld the more often i found timtab. so it seems like the way to go |
| 11:32 |
marvin_x2 |
once i'll have my testsystem i'll have a look into it |
| 11:32 |
beli |
hi folks, maybe you guys have the same problem running php 5.2.x next to php 5.3.x.........what are your soluions? |
| 11:34 |
ycas |
a question concerning pdf generator: is this script "heavy" for a server? our provider allows only 90seconds/script, and the pdf's are rendered only the first few lines. any hints if the script limitation might be responsible? |
| 11:35 |
Prot0 |
beli: i have one running as CGI |
| 11:35 |
ycas |
you can try on http://feuerungsleistungsregelung.info/unternehmen/ if you like |
| 11:36 |
beli |
Prot0: can you explain please |
| 11:36 |
Prot0 |
i didnt set it up but i think you can run one as apache module and another as CGI and set it up in the website conf (If your using apache of course ;]) |
| 11:38 |
beli |
i am on that box |
| 11:38 |
beli |
Prot0: that sounds not useable for me, i guess i will run nginx on a different port to do the job |
| 11:39 |
beli |
i need it for getting in the flow(3) ;) |
| 11:39 |
Prot0 |
what im doing is simply the php cgi to the websites cgi and add this to the apache conf |
| 11:39 |
Prot0 |
(ill paste it in pastebin hang on) |
| 11:39 |
beli |
thanks |
| 11:40 |
marvin_x2 |
i found a portable mirc version .. .i'll give that a try .. |
| 11:40 |
Prot0 |
http://pastebin.com/m19451078 |
| 11:40 |
marvin_x2 |
see u guys later |
| 11:41 |
beli |
ycas: are you using native browser transparency? |
| 11:42 |
Prot0 |
ycas: there are different libs and functions available for PDF generation, one might be lighter than the other but it's still a pretty heavy process |
| 11:42 |
Prot0 |
if it happens in the background perhaps you are allowed to enhance the allowed parse time/memory limit? |
| 11:48 |
ycas |
beli: I don't think so; am not 100% sure of what u mean though. |
| 11:49 |
marvin-narf |
ok, so it doesn't work ;) |
| 11:49 |
ycas |
Prot0: nope, it's a big provider and customers are not that happy with their lack of flexibility :s |
| 11:49 |
marvin-narf |
maybe you can help me with somethinge else? :) |
| 11:49 |
marvin-narf |
i'm pretty new to t3 and am still looking for what it can what it can't do |
| 11:50 |
Prot0 |
ycas: other solution: dedicated/managed hosting ;] |
| 11:50 |
ycas |
Prot0: yea |
| 11:50 |
marvin-narf |
i'm looking into working with workspaces and am wondering if workspaces can be divided to different server (to have a local draft-server and an online live-server) |
| 11:50 |
PiMB |
nothing you can't do marvin-narf |
| 11:50 |
PiMB |
;) |
| 11:51 |
marvin-narf |
^^ hope so |
| 11:51 |
ycas |
but actually i don't want the responsability to keep the machine safe :s |
| 11:51 |
PiMB |
use a partner |
| 11:51 |
Prot0 |
ycas: in that case managed hosting would be good |
| 11:51 |
PiMB |
dedicated hosting partner that provides you with service and root acces, but they will do the control and updates |
| 11:51 |
ycas |
Prot0: but you think the 90sec limit can be the problem here? |
| 11:52 |
Prot0 |
not if youre in control of the limits :] |
| 11:52 |
ycas |
;) |
| 11:52 |
ycas |
Prot0: thx |
| 11:52 |
Prot0 |
perhaps you will still need to write code that performs better, but thats more of a customer specific question i guess |
| 11:52 |
PiMB |
you need major memory limit and time limit. |
| 11:53 |
PiMB |
and very good code for your pdf generation |
| 11:53 |
marvin-narf |
so, this is possible? (sorry to have to ask again) |
| 11:53 |
PiMB |
I've tried different things, and always found that it sucks mate |
| 11:53 |
ycas |
one last question: which pdf generating lib/ext would you advise me to use? |
| 11:54 |
ycas |
(if any comes to your mind) |
| 11:55 |
Prot0 |
pfew, PiMB? you used one lately no? |
| 11:56 |
beli |
ycas: the menu trans |
| 11:58 |
beli |
ycas: managed server is the keyword...but a good portion of security knowledge is needed by any server admin |
| 11:59 |
ycas |
yes. i am admin in a SMB, but not full time and learning by doing. That's why I wouldn't want my server to be outside the intranet :s |
| 12:00 |
beli |
ycas: to face that the knowledge isnt enough for the wild is what most admins do not recognize |
| 12:00 |
beli |
ycas: so you are on the right way |
| 12:00 |
beli |
btw...apache and different php --> http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/ExtendingPrivilegeSeparation |
| 12:00 |
beli |
i think thats what i take :) |
| 12:01 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 12:02 |
snoy_ms |
any one knows how to get better quality for pictures? I set it from 70 to 100, but its also bad. |
| 12:03 |
Denjerek |
Cleared the cache? |
| 12:03 |
ycas |
beli: thx |
| 12:03 |
snoy_ms |
yes, cache and tempfolder |
| 12:03 |
ycas |
thx all for your valuable input! |
| 12:03 |
Prot0 |
snoy_ms: do you use im/gdlib/2 |
| 12:03 |
Prot0 |
? |
| 12:05 |
snoy_ms |
Prot0: yes, i think so |
| 12:05 |
snoy_ms |
Prot0: original: http://preview.bibellesebund.de/uploads/pics/Orientierung180.jpg |
| 12:05 |
snoy_ms |
Prot0: shrinked: http://preview.bibellesebund.de/typo3temp/pics/a5e95aba87.jpg |
| 12:06 |
Prot0 |
check you install tool configuration |
| 12:06 |
Prot0 |
theres something related to image quality |
| 12:07 |
Prot0 |
quality isnt that bad |
| 12:07 |
snoy_ms |
our customer thinks so :-( |
| 12:07 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 12:08 |
Prot0 |
well its a thumbnail, and its not resized with photoshop or something |
| 12:08 |
Prot0 |
hehe |
| 12:08 |
marvin-narf |
i've got another question: |
| 12:09 |
beli |
snoy_ms: maybe increase thumbnail size? possible? |
| 12:09 |
marvin-narf |
does anyone has experience with the AWStats-extension. or what is a good extension for collecting statistics |
| 12:09 |
beli |
marvin-narf: google-analytics and awstats |
| 12:09 |
snoy_ms |
beli: thats my next step... |
| 12:10 |
Denjerek |
snoy - that's to do with the downsizing algorithm rather than the file compression |
| 12:10 |
marvin-narf |
@snoy_ms: i think the 'problem' is that the image is compressed too much. |
| 12:10 |
beli |
marvin-narf: there are extensions for awstats....also to make it accessible for backend users, not just admins |
| 12:10 |
Prot0 |
snoy_ms: makingthe image smaller in photoshop gives you exactly the same quality ;] |
| 12:10 |
marvin-narf |
k, so awstats is the way to go. thx |
| 12:14 |
tPl0ch |
that is crap |
| 12:14 |
snoy_ms |
can i set localconf setup via typoscript ? |
| 12:14 |
snoy_ms |
for me it would be perfekt if the image processing is only disabled in startpage |
| 12:14 |
tPl0ch |
I can't get the folowing regesx to work ^\$[0-9A-f]{190}\$$ |
| 12:15 |
tPl0ch |
somehow typo3 escapes the characters wrong |
| 12:15 |
tPl0ch |
i tried 2 backslashes, 3,4 |
| 12:15 |
tPl0ch |
it should be passed to MailformPlus as a validation rule |
| 12:16 |
tPl0ch |
but crappy editor fucks it up |
| 12:18 |
snoy_ms |
ok, i test it with smaller images |
| 12:31 |
snoy_ms |
doesnt work |
| 12:31 |
snoy_ms |
still bad picture quily |
| 12:31 |
Prot0 |
it depends on the image dpi format and size i guess |
| 12:31 |
snoy_ms |
we test all formats |
| 12:31 |
snoy_ms |
different dpi |
| 12:32 |
snoy_ms |
different qulity |
| 12:32 |
snoy_ms |
but it could be the size |
| 12:41 |
WinstonS |
can a entry in a tt_news LATEST which is too long to be displayed completely link to it's respective SINGLE entry? |
| 12:44 |
pmk65 |
snoy_ms: have you set [GFX][png_truecolor] = 1 |
| 12:44 |
snoy_ms |
yes |
| 12:45 |
snoy_ms |
i test if its better with other sizes, maybe its to small with 90 px |
| 12:53 |
endegraaf |
WinstonS, yes, that is the way tt_news works ;-) |
| 12:56 |
WinstonS |
yep, i supposed so. now i just gotto find out where i messed up this time ;) |
| 12:57 |
WinstonS |
the LATEST entry does not even display the [more] span, LIST list does display a [more] span, but no link. singlePID is set to a page where the plugin is inserted as SINGLE. |
| 12:58 |
endegraaf |
;-) that's a bit messed up indeed |
| 12:58 |
endegraaf |
if you reverse LIST (more) with LATEST it'll be fine i guess? |
| 12:59 |
WinstonS |
funny enough. on page singlePID the LIST entry contains a [more] which is linked. |
| 12:59 |
WinstonS |
i included the LIST via templavoila and some typoscript |
| 13:36 |
WinstonS |
any idea why the "more" link of a tt_news LIST entry is not a link but a plain span? |
| 13:37 |
Golgata |
when i write an extension with a form which includes input fields named "tx_extname_pi1[abc]", how do i get the content of them after submit was pressed? is there something like $formdata->tx_extname_pi1 or so? |
| 13:39 |
Prot0 |
Golgata: use the pivars |
| 13:39 |
Prot0 |
$this->piVars['abc'] |
| 13:40 |
Golgata |
Prot0: thanks! |
| 13:41 |
Golgata |
do i have to use method=post then, or is it not important? |
| 13:41 |
PiMB |
doesn't matter. |
| 13:42 |
PiMB |
piVars loads both |
| 13:42 |
Golgata |
nice |
| 13:48 |
Krabat |
Hey everbody, i have a problem with a submenu.special in typoscript and i'm not very good in ts. so could sombody just help me with these 5 lines? wisper me plz. TY |
| 13:48 |
Prot0 |
post it m8, and well have a look :] |
| 13:49 |
Prot0 |
http://www.phlogi.net/t3/tsp/ |
| 13:50 |
Krabat |
http://paste.phlogi.net/prob_with_submenu/ |
| 13:50 |
BejjWrk |
right about now my wife boards an airplane to come home from +16C to -7C, man i miss her |
| 13:51 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 13:51 |
Prot0 |
Krabat: whats the problem? |
| 13:51 |
Prot0 |
ah nm |
| 13:51 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 13:51 |
Krabat |
it shows all sites |
| 13:52 |
Krabat |
want to see the hole ts? its not big jet |
| 13:54 |
PiMB |
BejjWrk she's finally coming over? |
| 13:54 |
PiMB |
great man! |
| 13:54 |
PiMB |
how long's the flight? |
| 13:58 |
Golgata |
someone knows why the admin panel (FE) has to be expanded because otherwise the edit-bar isnt shown?! |
| 13:59 |
BejjWrk |
PiMB: yup, its been since may 22nd since i last saw her, its an 18hour flight, she'll arrive about 8am tomorrow |
| 14:00 |
PiMB |
so we won't be seeing you tomorrow ;) |
| 14:00 |
BejjWrk |
i have tomorrow off work ;) |
| 14:02 |
Prot0 |
Krabat: use list instead of directory |
| 14:02 |
Krabat |
ok i try it! thx so far |
| 14:04 |
Krabat |
jap Works! Thank you! (some times its so easy...) |
| 14:05 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 14:06 |
Prot0 |
trial and error works fine too |
| 14:06 |
Prot0 |
"directory" displays those items subpages, if they have any |
| 14:06 |
tPl0ch |
How do I have to escape the following string ^\$[0-9A-Fa-f]\$$ in typoscript |
| 14:06 |
Prot0 |
you have to? |
| 14:06 |
Prot0 |
or still fooling around with the editor hehe? |
| 14:07 |
tPl0ch |
Prot0, yes, I have to, since saving the ts temlate just keeps fu*** things up |
| 14:07 |
tPl0ch |
I tried \$ \\$ \\\$ \\\\$ |
| 14:07 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 14:07 |
Prot0 |
ok thats messed up |
| 14:08 |
tPl0ch |
Prot0, everytime I open the ts template, one backslash is gone with the wind |
| 14:09 |
tPl0ch |
until there is none left, then $ will get replaced by the editor with the code of the whole template |
| 14:09 |
Prot0 |
with t3editor? |
| 14:10 |
tPl0ch |
Prot0, well, I disabled it |
| 14:12 |
Prot0 |
hm ok weird |
| 14:12 |
Prot0 |
so ^\$[0-9A-Fa-f]\$$ would after saving/reopening display ^$[0-9A-Fa-f]$$ |
| 14:12 |
Prot0 |
? |
| 14:13 |
Prot0 |
what TYPO3 version are you using? |
| 14:13 |
PiMB |
then don't reopen |
| 14:13 |
PiMB |
.. |
| 14:13 |
PiMB |
maybe try via external TS? |
| 14:13 |
PiMB |
then it's not escaped in/out db |
| 14:16 |
tPl0ch |
Prot0, version 4.3.1 |
| 14:16 |
tPl0ch |
PiMB, with external you mean linking in from fileadmin? |
| 14:17 |
tPl0ch |
Prot0, well I think $ is a reserved char in Typo3 as well, so I thought putting in a literal backslash with \\ and an escaped $ with \$ would give me \\\$ |
| 14:18 |
tPl0ch |
saving that, reopen gives me \$, which then after save is interpreted as escaped $ |
| 14:19 |
tPl0ch |
reopen, only the $ sign is there |
| 14:21 |
PiMB |
tPl0ch yep, from fileadmin |
| 14:21 |
PiMB |
<INCLUDE_TYPOSCRIPT: source="FILE:fileadmin/typoscript/setup/file.tss"> |
| 14:21 |
PiMB |
something like that |
| 14:26 |
WinstonS |
btw, i solved that tt_news problem by now. |
| 14:29 |
tPl0ch |
PiMB, no luck |
| 14:29 |
tPl0ch |
something is possibly wrong with mailformplus |
| 14:30 |
tPl0ch |
since ^\$[0-9A-Fa-f]{190}\$$ is a valid regex |
| 14:31 |
tPl0ch |
or I do have define a user_func validation |
| 14:31 |
tPl0ch |
but that's what I wanted to not do |
| 14:34 |
Golgata |
how can i grant editorial rights to frontend users? |
| 14:47 |
tPl0ch |
PiMB, Prot0 well it works now, I just used user_defined_validation |
| 14:48 |
PiMB |
:) |
| 14:48 |
PiMB |
the solution nobody wants, but everybody ends up with |
| 14:51 |
WinstonS |
ît should be marked deprecated ;) |
| 14:58 |
No5251 |
Denjerek: still having the realurl problem? |
| 15:01 |
Krabat |
is it possible to make a second navigation tree? |
| 15:02 |
Prot0 |
everything is possible |
| 15:02 |
Prot0 |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/8/11/ |
| 15:03 |
Denjerek |
No5251: yes. |
| 15:03 |
Krabat |
ty |
| 15:03 |
Denjerek |
for now I have included the page in the path permanently |
| 15:03 |
Denjerek |
as I don't want to confuse google with a mishmash of random URLS |
| 15:05 |
WinstonS |
random urls are your friend. as more linking to you as better ;) |
| 15:07 |
tPl0ch |
Denjerek, well, if you have the same content on the random urls that is bad |
| 15:07 |
tPl0ch |
you will get penalized for duplicate content |
| 15:08 |
Denjerek |
exactly |
| 15:09 |
WinstonS |
of course. but wasnt quite what i meant ;) |
| 15:10 |
Denjerek |
Yeah, more links are good |
| 15:10 |
Denjerek |
but duplicate content on pages with different URLs is bad |
| 15:11 |
Prot0 |
yup |
| 15:11 |
WinstonS |
i know. |
| 15:11 |
WinstonS |
btw, why is google better than microsoft? |
| 15:11 |
Prot0 |
you can easily check that with google webmaster tools |
| 15:11 |
WinstonS |
they've got more funny t-shirts. |
| 15:11 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 15:11 |
Prot0 |
and noone likes bill |
| 15:12 |
WinstonS |
i think there are worse folks around than bill. and google isnt exactly harmless also |
| 15:13 |
Denjerek |
Google is an absolute monster |
| 15:13 |
tPl0ch |
Prot0, well, bill is not that bad, steven is way worse |
| 15:13 |
Denjerek |
they are evil, corrupt, and PHENOMINALLY dangerous |
| 15:13 |
WinstonS |
true |
| 15:13 |
Denjerek |
they essentially control the internet |
| 15:14 |
Denjerek |
but because they did it for free, no-one complained. |
| 15:14 |
WinstonS |
most googlers i know are amazing. but "the google" is dangerous |
| 15:14 |
Denjerek |
"for free" |
| 15:14 |
Denjerek |
the whole "Christianity is..." and "Islam is..." search tells the whole story |
| 15:14 |
WinstonS |
google is going even "less than free". they'll be paying you for using their products. because they take huge loads of money from their advertising customers. |
| 15:15 |
phil1 |
hi all |
| 15:15 |
phil1 |
anyone using trunk? |
| 15:16 |
Denjerek |
only for peanuts phil1 |
| 15:16 |
Denjerek |
¬_¬ |
| 15:19 |
phil1 |
I mean do you have a running system with current trunk? |
| 15:19 |
phil1 |
datepicker does not work for me any more and I just want to make sure it is not my crappy linux |
| 15:20 |
tPl0ch |
Anybody has some nice javascript flyout navigation ts? |
| 15:21 |
tPl0ch |
horizontal |
| 15:21 |
tPl0ch |
^^ |
| 15:21 |
phil1 |
like this ? http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/anywidth2.html |
| 15:23 |
tPl0ch |
phil1, yes, but as typoscript code |
| 15:28 |
phil1 |
tPl0ch: comming |
| 15:28 |
gerards |
lame Denjerek. you can do better... :) |
| 15:30 |
phil1 |
tPl0ch: http://paste.phlogi.net/-a13f3b2aca/ |
| 15:31 |
phil1 |
tPl0ch: you can find css and stuff here http://typo3.philippgampe.info |
| 15:31 |
tPl0ch |
phil1, lol, IE6 optimized |
| 15:31 |
tPl0ch |
browsermobbing: DITCH IE6 FFS |
| 15:32 |
WinstonS |
+1 |
| 15:32 |
phil1 |
+1 |
| 15:32 |
phil1 |
but I needed the code anyway for a project (+IE6) |
| 15:33 |
phil1 |
so I just tried to keep it working ... you can skip anything you don't want |
| 15:33 |
phil1 |
:) |
| 15:38 |
tPl0ch |
phil1, yeah, I just realized that I have to create graphical headers as well |
| 15:38 |
tPl0ch |
so I need to add some GIFBUILDER stuff |
| 15:38 |
tPl0ch |
but should still work |
| 15:45 |
WinstonS |
is there any typo3 marker that refers to a site's base url? |
| 15:46 |
WinstonS |
for "http://domain.invalid/t3site/index.php?id=42" i need a reference to "http://domain.invalid/t3site/" |
| 15:47 |
WinstonS |
without hardcoding it into the template |
| 15:49 |
phil1 |
WinstonS: config.baseURL = http://example.com/path/ |
| 15:50 |
WinstonS |
thanks. i wanted to avoid that. because if i rename t3site to something else, i've got to change the typoscript also |
| 16:01 |
compojoom |
hey guys! |
| 16:01 |
compojoom |
is it possible to use indexed_search together with a custom extension |
| 16:02 |
compojoom |
extension that I have written for example? what should I do, if I want to use indexed search together with it? |
| 16:07 |
PiMB |
make sure it's indexed, then it's searchable |
| 16:07 |
PiMB |
you might consider using the crawler extension for it |
| 16:09 |
compojoom |
so just adding the <indexed search>....</indexedsearch> tags on the page and I'm ready? |
| 16:10 |
PiMB |
should be. |
| 16:10 |
compojoom |
cool, cool |
| 16:10 |
Lasse |
hello - |
| 16:10 |
Lasse |
i have some questions |
| 16:10 |
Lasse |
forst of all: doyou have a typo3 forum where i can ask question? :) |
| 16:15 |
maholtz|WORK |
@Lasse: there are newsgroups, which are sync with an mailinglist |
| 16:15 |
maholtz|WORK |
its worth to check it out |
| 16:21 |
Krabat |
when i use the backend to create an textelement on the side and use the headline funktion it creates an h1 headline! can i somehow change it to an h3 or h4 headline element that ist created? |
| 16:21 |
kotelette |
kind of a poll: what would be you approach to realize a horizontal menu with the first and last item having rounded corners? |
| 16:22 |
kotelette |
css and div positioning vs GMENU? |
| 16:23 |
kotelette |
(it will have to be GMENU_LAYERS since it's more a dropdown with three levels) |
| 16:25 |
kotelette |
and the menu items have to be scalable in width... |
| 16:25 |
TheEternalAbyss |
greetings folks |
| 16:28 |
TheEternalAbyss |
Had a question. If I remove baseurl from my template |
| 16:28 |
TheEternalAbyss |
do i need to change the link rel info or can I leave it as is? |
| 16:29 |
TheEternalAbyss |
but i mean completely delete that line, not just leave baseurl blank |
| 16:33 |
AlphawolfWMP |
Hey folks. Anyone tried using TYPO3 with a Lotus Notes Domino Server already? Is it possible to run PHP, MySQL and mod_rewrite on a Domino Server? |
| 16:34 |
Denjerek |
Christ |
| 16:34 |
Denjerek |
I'd run screaming at the mention of Notes TBH |
| 16:34 |
Prot0 |
id like to see that |
| 16:35 |
Prot0 |
fair enough |
| 16:35 |
Denjerek |
No problem. |
| 16:35 |
Denjerek |
:) |
| 16:35 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 16:35 |
Prot0 |
theoreticalley it should work no? |
| 16:35 |
Prot0 |
:D |
| 16:36 |
TheEternalAbyss |
whats the typoscript to add the frontend editing thing? |
| 16:36 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 16:36 |
phil1 |
TheEternalAbyss: install the extension from TER |
| 16:37 |
WinstonS |
domino *shudder* |
| 16:37 |
AlphawolfWMP |
:D |
| 16:37 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i thought there was just a command to bring up the grey box |
| 16:37 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 16:37 |
Prot0 |
yes |
| 16:37 |
Prot0 |
hehe |
| 16:37 |
phil1 |
TheEternalAbyss: feeditadvanced |
| 16:37 |
tPl0ch |
AlphawolfWMP, I would sue the person who sold you that |
| 16:37 |
Prot0 |
phil1: he means the admin box |
| 16:37 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 16:37 |
PiMB |
config.admPanel = 1 |
| 16:37 |
AlphawolfWMP |
Well, the client doesnt like Apache for whatever reason, and would like to stick with the domino server.. what can I say. |
| 16:37 |
TheEternalAbyss |
yea the admin box, thanks |
| 16:38 |
Prot0 |
was looking it up lol |
| 16:38 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 16:38 |
AlphawolfWMP |
So, theoretically, would it be possible technically? |
| 16:38 |
tPl0ch |
AlphawolfWMP, there are way othe possibilities then that |
| 16:38 |
TheEternalAbyss |
but that extension interests me now :) |
| 16:38 |
TheEternalAbyss |
is there a any extension that are specifically for navgation/menu building? |
| 16:39 |
Prot0 |
http://typo3.org/about/system-requirements/ |
| 16:40 |
TheEternalAbyss |
hmm.....the admin panel won't show up...odd |
| 16:41 |
AlphawolfWMP |
Prot0: Well, no signs of Domino on that page, huh ;) |
| 16:41 |
Denjerek |
config.admPanel=1 in Template? |
| 16:41 |
TheEternalAbyss |
yea |
| 16:41 |
TheEternalAbyss |
I put that in there |
| 16:41 |
TheEternalAbyss |
does that TS command work for version 4.2.8? |
| 16:42 |
AlphawolfWMP |
Well, but you people's reactions were clear when I mentioned Domino. |
| 16:42 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i think i need to go through the TS tutorials... |
| 16:43 |
AlphawolfWMP |
Lemme bring up the term again: DOMINO |
| 16:43 |
AlphawolfWMP |
:) |
| 16:43 |
WinstonS |
lemme *shudder* again |
| 16:44 |
WinstonS |
no idea about t3 and domino tho, sorry. |
| 16:44 |
TheEternalAbyss |
oh there it is |
| 16:44 |
AlphawolfWMP |
Well well, guess I will have to convince him to switch over to Apache or sth. |
| 16:44 |
AlphawolfWMP |
Thanks for your thoughts, links and shudders :) |
| 16:46 |
Prot0 |
hehe |
| 16:46 |
Prot0 |
good luck |
| 16:47 |
Bluespuke |
hello! i'm setting my keywords via page.meta.keywords = DB:pages:1:keywords (and of course an override if defined). how to make it work with a translated page? |
| 16:47 |
Bluespuke |
i found this question multiple times on google but without an answer... |
| 16:48 |
PiMB |
use a condition on L=1 and set the proper field for the translated keywords |
| 16:50 |
Bluespuke |
PiMB: the keywords are in the translation of the page, how can i access it in the condition? is there something like DB:pages:1:keywords:L:1 ? |
| 16:50 |
Prot0 |
thats not going to work |
| 16:50 |
Prot0 |
dont you need the page overlay for that? |
| 16:50 |
PiMB |
true |
| 16:51 |
compojoom |
interesting. My extension uses url params like uid=5 to get a specific content from the database. That is why when I open the page for a first time with uid=5 the page is indexed. But the next time open the page with uid=6, the page is not indexed. I wonder how do tt_news manages to make their items indexed? |
| 16:51 |
Prot0 |
use piVars |
| 16:51 |
Prot0 |
for starters |
| 16:51 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 16:52 |
Prot0 |
tx_myplugin_pi1[uid] |
| 16:52 |
Prot0 |
instead of just uid |
| 16:52 |
compojoom |
yep, sorry |
| 16:52 |
compojoom |
this is what I'm doing |
| 16:52 |
compojoom |
tx_myplugin[uid]=5 |
| 16:52 |
PiMB |
so instead of DB:pages you would use DB:pages_language_overlay |
| 16:52 |
Krabat |
could sombody give me a hint? http://paste.phlogi.net/prob_with_liwrap/ |
| 16:52 |
pmk65 |
Bluespuke: the keywords (and other overlay fields9 will be returned in the language you have selected in FE. |
| 16:52 |
compojoom |
and I'm accessing the uid with $this->piVars['uid'] |
| 16:53 |
Prot0 |
thats good yes :] |
| 16:53 |
compojoom |
yep, but indexed_search doesn't care |
| 16:53 |
pmk65 |
indexed_search sucks, and is one of those ext you should avoid.. |
| 16:53 |
Prot0 |
i had it too once, somewhere |
| 16:54 |
compojoom |
LOL |
| 16:54 |
Prot0 |
crawled content with the crawler ext |
| 16:54 |
pmk65 |
Krabat: Use "wrapItemAndSub" |
| 16:54 |
Prot0 |
and it indexed it well |
| 16:54 |
compojoom |
pmk65: what extension should I use to index content then? |
| 16:54 |
TheEternalAbyss |
question: if I built a menu completely outside of typo3, like using flash or some other web tech, I can add it in the template of course right? |
| 16:54 |
Prot0 |
pmk65: for basic search it's not that bad is it? |
| 16:55 |
pmk65 |
Krabat: http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/menus/text-menu.html |
| 16:55 |
TheEternalAbyss |
cause i need a horiz menu that brings down a secondary horiz menu when a menu item is clicked |
| 16:55 |
compojoom |
Prot0: and for advanced search? what do you use for "advanced" search? |
| 16:55 |
WinstonS |
enough work for today. thanks and see you guys :) |
| 16:55 |
compojoom |
see you man ;) |
| 16:55 |
pmk65 |
Prot0: If you have a small site it's ok, but once there are several users trying to search, it overloads the server. |
| 16:56 |
compojoom |
well, we've have more than 2000 pages on our site |
| 16:56 |
compojoom |
and indexed search just works great |
| 16:56 |
compojoom |
at the beginning we had problems with it |
| 16:57 |
compojoom |
it was searching for stuff like this LIKE %something% |
| 16:57 |
compojoom |
we've changed to just LIKE %something |
| 16:57 |
compojoom |
and the server is just fine |
| 16:58 |
pmk65 |
it's not the number of pages that brings it to its knees, but a mix of pages and search queries. Our site have around 5000 users online at peak hours. And once a couple of them starts searching at the same time, the server gets overloaded |
| 16:58 |
Prot0 |
can imagine that :] |
| 16:59 |
pmk65 |
right now we are using Googles search API instead.. |
| 16:59 |
PiMB |
it's common knowledge that indexed_search shouldn't be used in large or high traffic sites. |
| 16:59 |
PiMB |
for small ones (-200pages) it's fine |
| 16:59 |
compojoom |
anyway - good or bad I don't know why it doesn't index the different uids |
| 16:59 |
compojoom |
like it does for tt_news |
| 16:59 |
pmk65 |
but there's no definition on what is a "large site" and "high traffic".. |
| 17:00 |
PiMB |
true. |
| 17:00 |
Krabat |
pmk65: ty! worked |
| 17:00 |
PiMB |
trial and error. |
| 17:03 |
compojoom |
pmk65: we have several user groups. registered, premium etc. If the a registered user looks for something and he finds a premium article - then the article should be marked as for premium members. Are you able to do this with the google API? |
| 17:05 |
kotelette |
TheEternalAbyss: we're just finished with a site conaining flashmovies as menues (using xml files containing the links) |
| 17:05 |
kotelette |
that worked fine for us |
| 17:08 |
elmargol |
Does Date2Calendar / powermail work for you using ie6? |
| 17:08 |
Prot0 |
er |
| 17:08 |
Prot0 |
there are know problems |
| 17:08 |
Prot0 |
in combination |
| 17:08 |
TheEternalAbyss |
kotolette: sounds good. Their menu is massively meesed up. I prefer to just rebuild it outside of typo3 |
| 17:08 |
Prot0 |
using latest versions? |
| 17:08 |
Prot0 |
1.5.2 and 7.3.1? |
| 17:11 |
kotelette |
TheEternalAbyss: we had to write an custom ext, because the customer wanted a alternative navigation if no flash availabe etc |
| 17:11 |
kotelette |
so we just replace a marker with a FE plugin |
| 17:11 |
elmargol |
Prot0: 1.5.3 7.3.0 |
| 17:13 |
Prot0 |
erm, do you have IRRE turned on? |
| 17:13 |
kotelette |
which bring me back to my poll |
| 17:14 |
kotelette |
what would be you approach to realize a horizontal menu with the first and last item having rounded corners? |
| 17:14 |
kotelette |
css and div positioning vs GMENU? |
| 17:14 |
kotelette |
and the menu items have to be scalable in width... |
| 17:14 |
kotelette |
and transparent |
| 17:14 |
elmargol |
Prot0: yes |
| 17:15 |
Prot0 |
try turning that off, i think theres something about it in the extension configuration as well |
| 17:15 |
Prot0 |
otherwise perhaps it might simply not run with IE6 :] |
| 17:16 |
elmargol |
well it does not work on ie7 and ie8 aswell |
| 17:22 |
TheEternalAbyss |
this is an odd question |
| 17:22 |
TheEternalAbyss |
but maybe you guys can enlighten me |
| 17:22 |
TheEternalAbyss |
let's say I have a menu that has four elements to choose from |
| 17:22 |
TheEternalAbyss |
like itemA | itemB | itemC | itemD |
| 17:23 |
TheEternalAbyss |
and under that menu, a second level menu will appear on mouseover |
| 17:24 |
TheEternalAbyss |
if someone clicks on itemC (displaying the itemC submenu items and page), is it possible ot make itemD disappear in the main menu? |
| 17:25 |
TheEternalAbyss |
to make* |
| 17:26 |
elmargol |
Prot0: it was a bug in IEtester. it seems to work on a "native" vm |
| 17:26 |
pmk65 |
kotelette: TMENU (GMENU has limited TS commands, and you can create exact the same menus with TMENU) |
| 17:27 |
elmargol |
guess I have to setup 3 vms now :( |
| 17:28 |
pmk65 |
elmargol: what platform/OS do you use? |
| 17:29 |
elmargol |
kde4/archlinux/linux/32bit |
| 17:29 |
elmargol |
for testing I use virtualbox and winxp |
| 17:29 |
pmk65 |
go to this page (windows only) -> http://spoon.net/browsers/ |
| 17:30 |
pmk65 |
and click on the green button to download the plugin. After the plugin is installed, you can run TRUE IE6/7/8 on the same machine. |
| 17:30 |
elmargol |
pmk65: can I test local sites using this? |
| 17:31 |
pmk65 |
yes. it's a true IE, not a pseudo browser like IETester. So you can run all the debug addons. |
| 17:32 |
pmk65 |
Debugbar (from the same company who made IETester) is really good for debugging the crappy IE browsers. -> http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/ |
| 17:32 |
elmargol |
pmk65: I dont' get how this works isnt the browser running on the server and I just see the results? |
| 17:32 |
kotelette |
pmk65: so it get's me back to optionsplit with divs ,-) |
| 17:32 |
kotelette |
and a jquery popup menu |
| 17:33 |
pmk65 |
elmargol: It runs partly from the web, and partly from a "sandbox" area on your computer. |
| 17:33 |
schabracke |
hello! anybody worked with pmkttnewstwitter and more than on news category yet? |
| 17:34 |
pmk65 |
kotelette: There's a pretty good optionsplit tutorial here -> http://castironcoding.com/resources/typo3-admins-corner/typo3-admin-corner-article/article/understanding-optionsplit/index.html |
| 17:35 |
pmk65 |
schabracke: It only reads the singlepid from the main category. It doesn't check nested categories. |
| 17:35 |
kotelette |
yes i got that already working (like first and last div hve rounded vorners) combined with wrapItemAndSub, but chagin color on hover is not very performant with jquery and a div left and right wich change their background image on hover ,-) |
| 17:36 |
kotelette |
it kinf of winces |
| 17:54 |
tPl0ch |
Is there an asset packer for typo3, in like packing and combining all included css and js files? |
| 17:55 |
TheEternalAbyss |
kotolette, did you use a specific extension to install the xml/flash menu? |
| 17:55 |
TheEternalAbyss |
on a side note: nobody knows about my question? |
| 17:58 |
pmk65 |
tPl0ch: Stefan Galinski's scriptmerger ext. -> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/scriptmerger/current/ |
| 17:59 |
kotelette |
TheEternalAbyss: we made a custom one since we needed an alternative content if no flash player is installed etc |
| 17:59 |
kotelette |
and it writes the xml files where the flash movie reads the relative links from |
| 18:00 |
TheEternalAbyss |
kotolette: Sorry I don't quite follow. You guys have a custom flash menu correct? |
| 18:00 |
pmk65 |
TheEternalAbyss> creating an XML output for flash is very easy. You just set up a different pagetype, and kills the normal headers and add a XML header. |
| 18:01 |
TheEternalAbyss |
pmk65: oh i have everything for the menu already: .fls, .as .psd, .xml, .swf, .html files |
| 18:02 |
kotelette |
we wrote it to a folder where the menue reads from |
| 18:02 |
pmk65 |
Here's an example of creating a menu in XML format (It's one I wrote for creating a Google Sitemap XML file) -> http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-32f8da6a31/ |
| 18:02 |
TheEternalAbyss |
so you just kep tthe HMENU and TMENU definitions in TS? |
| 18:03 |
TheEternalAbyss |
thanks pmk |
| 18:03 |
kotelette |
thats even cooler :) should have known that before |
| 18:03 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i think i might do something like that |
| 18:04 |
pmk65 |
if you add that TS to your setup, and you add a GET param -> type=104 then it will show the XML file. |
| 18:04 |
TheEternalAbyss |
cool |
| 18:04 |
pmk65 |
the same method can be used for creating a XML file for a Flash menu. |
| 18:05 |
pmk65 |
Note: the "4" value used in the snippet, refers to my rootpage which is id=4 |
| 18:05 |
kotelette |
Got to go, see you guys :) |
| 18:05 |
TheEternalAbyss |
well i have the xml file already |
| 18:05 |
TheEternalAbyss |
bye kotolette |
| 18:06 |
TheEternalAbyss |
kotelette i mean :) |
| 18:06 |
TheEternalAbyss |
so i just need to reference it |
| 18:06 |
TheEternalAbyss |
funky |
| 18:06 |
TheEternalAbyss |
I wish I was more proficient in all this...I need a web design crash course to get up to speed |
| 18:08 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i haven't made sites in a few years and now all this stuff pops up on me and I sort of know what's going on, but at the same time I'm bumping into walls |
| 18:11 |
pmk65 |
There's still lots of stuff I don't know. Flash for instance. I tried it a while back, but I found it so confusing (the way you attach scripts to objects, which you then attach to other objects/scripts) |
| 18:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
yea but right now i feel like I've been told to paint a portrait and I have no hands |
| 18:12 |
TheEternalAbyss |
lol |
| 18:13 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i'm just a bit frustrated that's all |
| 18:13 |
TheEternalAbyss |
it's just how i am when learning new things...like typo3 and TS :) |
| 18:14 |
TheEternalAbyss |
well i'm going to get some lunch. be back in 10 min or so |
| 18:33 |
elmargol |
Any Ideas why I don't have the new typo3script editor using typo3 4.3? |
| 18:33 |
elmargol |
I have a screenshot here of a fancy new editor and still get the old one :( |
| 18:34 |
kinea |
elmargol: you can activate the editor in the templates section |
| 18:37 |
elmargol |
kinea: web/template/info modify? |
| 18:39 |
kinea |
elmargol: first you have to install the extension |
| 18:39 |
kinea |
in the extension manager |
| 18:40 |
kinea |
its there, but not installed |
| 18:40 |
elmargol |
feedit? |
| 18:41 |
kinea |
t3 editor |
| 18:41 |
kinea |
t3editor |
| 18:41 |
kinea |
the second in the section "backend" |
| 18:43 |
elmargol |
Ok thats allready installed |
| 19:09 |
TheEternalAbyss |
well that took longer than I thought it would |
| 19:10 |
elmargol |
found the problem. the editor only works if I edit Setup or Constants. not If i choose "Edit the whole template" |
| 19:49 |
Phlogi |
elmargol: thats normal |
| 19:53 |
elmargol |
Phlogi: good to know... |
| 20:23 |
TheEternalAbyss |
the default username/pass for the easy install is root, joh316 right? |
| 20:24 |
Phlogi |
TheEternalAbyss: yes I think so... |
| 20:25 |
Phlogi |
or admin |
| 20:25 |
Phlogi |
as username |
| 20:26 |
TheEternalAbyss |
i'm trying to have a fresh install to just experiment with so I don't screw up the main site i'm working on |
| 20:26 |
TheEternalAbyss |
but all I'm getting is that current username/pass or host was not accepted during the easy123 install :\ |
| 20:32 |
TheEternalAbyss |
k, it was just root no password -_-;; |
| 20:47 |
decoder |
hello :) we're having serious problems with our typo3.. since some upgrade, many things dont seem to work anymore. Email obfuscation isnt working, serving static pages doesnt work either, although all these settings are appropriate in the Setup Section of the Template Config |
| 20:47 |
decoder |
(using templavoila if that is of any relevance) |
| 20:48 |
decoder |
does anyone have an idea? |
| 20:52 |
Prot0 |
TemplaVoila is certainly of relevance |
| 20:52 |
Prot0 |
from what to what did you upgrade |
| 20:52 |
Prot0 |
? |
| 21:14 |
fLoo |
i've got a problem over here, i am having like 300.000 photos |
| 21:14 |
fLoo |
now i am looking for a good and fast gallery-extension |
| 21:14 |
fLoo |
which may handle even 1 million pictures |
| 21:15 |
fLoo |
anyone has an advice for me ? |
| 21:17 |
timdeluxe |
fLoo: i work with http://gallery.menalto.com/ but i never handled 300k photos |
| 21:17 |
timdeluxe |
but i think it is just a question of disk space |
| 21:18 |
fLoo |
ya |
| 21:18 |
fLoo |
used gallery2 too so far |
| 21:19 |
timdeluxe |
but not satisfied? |
| 21:23 |
fLoo |
well |
| 21:24 |
fLoo |
i am, but i am only using it with like 90k pictures so far |
| 21:24 |
fLoo |
i am not sure it can handle 1 mio pictures |
| 21:25 |
timdeluxe |
hm, i think the boundaries are only disk space and dat |
| 21:25 |
timdeluxe |
abase |
| 21:25 |
fLoo |
ya, i think when you have a database with 1 mio pictures it might grow exorbitant |
| 21:25 |
timdeluxe |
1 mio rows are no problem for a typical database |
| 21:26 |
timdeluxe |
especially when it uses smart indexes |
| 21:27 |
fLoo |
i'll try then |
| 21:28 |
timdeluxe |
i am just interested: where do so many pictures come from? do you own some community page? |
| 21:31 |
fLoo |
well |
| 21:31 |
fLoo |
its a newspaper |
| 21:31 |
timdeluxe |
ah ok |
| 21:31 |
timdeluxe |
with a big archive i assume |
| 21:32 |
fLoo |
pretty big yea |
| 21:32 |
fLoo |
30 tb pictures |
| 21:44 |
Golgata |
exec_SELECTquery gives back a recordset, right? how can i access it in php? |
| 21:45 |
Prot0 |
Golgata: its the smae as example mysql_query |
| 21:45 |
Prot0 |
but if you need an array back |
| 21:45 |
Golgata |
when i do $bla = $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->exec_SELECTquery(...) and now want to access the records in $bla? |
| 21:45 |
Prot0 |
i suggest you use exec_SELECTgetRows |
| 21:46 |
Golgata |
ah |
| 21:46 |
Golgata |
what's smae? :) |
| 21:46 |
Prot0 |
$GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->sql_fetch_assoc |
| 21:46 |
Golgata |
ah |
| 21:46 |
Golgata |
think i got it... the result is still an sql-format? |
| 21:47 |
Prot0 |
its the same |
| 21:47 |
Prot0 |
read the core documentation |
| 21:47 |
Golgata |
i'll try |
| 21:48 |
Prot0 |
:) |
| 21:48 |
Golgata |
thanks so far. probably SELECTgetRows is more what i need |
| 21:48 |
Prot0 |
if you just need an array with all results, using exec_SELECTgetRows() would be faster |
| 21:48 |
Golgata |
thats what i need |
| 21:48 |
Golgata |
:D |
| 21:50 |
Golgata |
is it then $bla[recordNumber][value]? |
| 21:51 |
Prot0 |
yup |
| 21:51 |
Prot0 |
starting with 0 |
| 21:51 |
Prot0 |
as index of course |
| 21:51 |
Prot0 |
if youre not sure about what you have just print_r() it |
| 21:52 |
Golgata |
i learned that today ;) |
| 21:59 |
Prot0 |
if your using the DBAL this might also be handy: |
| 21:59 |
Prot0 |
http://sebastiaandejonge.com/articles/2009/december/debugging-sql-queries-from-the-dbal.html |
| 22:00 |
Thasmo |
Hello! Anybody here who would help me with a SVN working copy, trying to 'add' new files? Thanks a lot! |
| 22:01 |
Prot0 |
Sure |
| 22:01 |
Thasmo |
:> |
| 22:01 |
Prot0 |
whats the problem? |
| 22:01 |
Thasmo |
Ok - I copied a directory within Dreamweaver into a working copy. |
| 22:01 |
Thasmo |
which was eventually a mistake. xD |
| 22:02 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 22:02 |
Prot0 |
oh dear |
| 22:02 |
Prot0 |
dreamweaver? |
| 22:02 |
Thasmo |
now I try to to 'svn add <dir>' to add it to the working copy, but it keeps saying, it is already versioned. |
| 22:02 |
Thasmo |
yeah dw xD |
| 22:02 |
Prot0 |
try updating from the repos |
| 22:02 |
Prot0 |
i hope you didnt buy that! hehe |
| 22:02 |
Thasmo |
but the repository doesn't have the directory I added |
| 22:03 |
Thasmo |
buy? xD |
| 22:03 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 22:03 |
Prot0 |
tryed closing and restarting dreamweaver? |
| 22:03 |
Thasmo |
it starts with 'b', but it's burned. |
| 22:03 |
Prot0 |
or refreshing your view |
| 22:03 |
Thasmo |
No, I try to add the directory via SSH. |
| 22:03 |
Thasmo |
root access. |
| 22:04 |
Prot0 |
do you have an SVN client installed on your system otherwise? like tortoiseSVN |
| 22:04 |
Prot0 |
that prolly wont work |
| 22:04 |
Prot0 |
;] |
| 22:04 |
Thasmo |
im developing on a linux machine over sftp |
| 22:04 |
Thasmo |
its on linux |
| 22:04 |
Thasmo |
Dreamweaver -> FTP -> Linux -> REPOSITORY. |
| 22:04 |
Prot0 |
o.0 |
| 22:04 |
Prot0 |
makes sence |
| 22:04 |
Prot0 |
:D |
| 22:05 |
Thasmo |
the repo is on another server. |
| 22:05 |
Prot0 |
im guessing |
| 22:05 |
Prot0 |
the nix box is your dev env? |
| 22:05 |
Thasmo |
indeed. |
| 22:05 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 22:05 |
Thasmo |
So, how to add a directory to the working copy? |
| 22:06 |
Prot0 |
still need to think of a system like that but with local servers |
| 22:06 |
Thasmo |
huh? xD |
| 22:06 |
Prot0 |
you have ssh on the linux machine? |
| 22:06 |
Thasmo |
ye |
| 22:06 |
Prot0 |
ah |
| 22:06 |
Thasmo |
:> |
| 22:06 |
Prot0 |
how do you commit normally? o.0 |
| 22:07 |
Thasmo |
Via a TYPO3 extension. |
| 22:07 |
Thasmo |
:> |
| 22:07 |
Thasmo |
Don't lose your head now. xD |
| 22:07 |
Thasmo |
It's half that complicated. |
| 22:07 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 22:07 |
Prot0 |
:D |
| 22:07 |
Prot0 |
ok |
| 22:07 |
Prot0 |
im not going to ask any further |
| 22:08 |
Thasmo |
I just need to 'add' newly created files to the working copy, so it can be commited. |
| 22:08 |
Prot0 |
erm |
| 22:08 |
Thasmo |
But it doesn't work. |
| 22:08 |
Prot0 |
svn add... something |
| 22:08 |
Prot0 |
wait ill lookup the cmd |
| 22:08 |
Thasmo |
yeah it says '... already under version control' |
| 22:08 |
Prot0 |
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.2/svn.ref.svn.c.add.html |
| 22:09 |
Prot0 |
and when you manually commint/update over SSH? |
| 22:09 |
Prot0 |
or add it over SSH |
| 22:10 |
Thasmo |
Okay, again: I log into SSH and type in: "svn add <my_newly_created_directory>", and then it says: svn: warning: '<my_newly_created_directory>' is already under version control. |
| 22:11 |
Prot0 |
ok |
| 22:11 |
Prot0 |
svn commit? |
| 22:11 |
Prot0 |
or if that doesnt work |
| 22:11 |
Prot0 |
remove it |
| 22:11 |
Prot0 |
and add it again |
| 22:11 |
Prot0 |
:D |
| 22:11 |
Thasmo |
but I thought commiting is only working for files added to the working copy? |
| 22:11 |
Thasmo |
how to remove? |
| 22:12 |
Thasmo |
SVN sucks btw. xD |
| 22:12 |
Prot0 |
lol nah |
| 22:12 |
Prot0 |
svn remove |
| 22:13 |
Thasmo |
a that suckes a lot dude xD next error: |
| 22:13 |
Thasmo |
svn: Directory '<my_dir>/.svn' containing working copy admin area is missing |
| 22:13 |
Prot0 |
rofl |
| 22:13 |
Prot0 |
omg |
| 22:13 |
Thasmo |
svn really got me. |
| 22:13 |
Thasmo |
damn thing |
| 22:14 |
Thasmo |
cant add, cant remove. |
| 22:14 |
Thasmo |
so what? xD |
| 22:14 |
Prot0 |
hmm |
| 22:14 |
Prot0 |
create a new checkout? :D |
| 22:16 |
Thasmo |
ill do now, just backing up changes in case of SVN comes up with the idea to take over my server or somethg. |
| 22:16 |
Thasmo |
I bet it's a trojan horse. xD |
| 22:17 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 22:19 |
Prot0 |
hang on |
| 22:21 |
Thasmo |
K, made a clean checkout now. So, how to add new directories and files to the working copy? |
| 22:25 |
Prot0 |
well |
| 22:25 |
Prot0 |
normally with svn add |
| 22:26 |
Thasmo |
ok I created a directory via SSH 'mkdir' |
| 22:26 |
Prot0 |
but because of your "strange" construction |
| 22:26 |
Prot0 |
:P |
| 22:26 |
Thasmo |
and added it successfully. |
| 22:26 |
Prot0 |
hm |
| 22:26 |
Prot0 |
ok |
| 22:26 |
Prot0 |
wel |
| 22:26 |
Prot0 |
problem solved :P |
| 22:26 |
Thasmo |
i think this SHITTY dreamweaver messed it up |
| 22:26 |
Thasmo |
not yet, need to add the files also xD |
| 22:27 |
Thasmo |
ok, worked also. |
| 22:27 |
Thasmo |
Phew. |
| 22:27 |
Prot0 |
amen to that |
| 22:27 |
Prot0 |
;] |
| 22:28 |
Prot0 |
but why do you use an ext for committing if its just a simple command? :P |
| 22:28 |
Thasmo |
cause it's a single click |
| 22:29 |
Prot0 |
lol |
| 22:29 |
Thasmo |
compared to login to SSH, etc. |
| 22:29 |
Prot0 |
true |
| 22:29 |
Thasmo |
well someone recommended it to me, I just try it out. |
| 22:29 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 22:29 |
Thasmo |
im new to SVN |
| 22:29 |
Prot0 |
funny construction though, didnt think of that one |
| 22:29 |
Thasmo |
of what? |
| 22:30 |
Prot0 |
committng with an ext |
| 22:30 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 22:30 |
Prot0 |
but doesnt do anything with the database does it? |
| 22:30 |
kraftb |
hi ! |
| 22:31 |
Thasmo |
no |
| 22:31 |
Prot0 |
k |
| 22:31 |
Thasmo |
just using svn commands over php exec. |
| 22:31 |
Prot0 |
ah k :] |
| 22:32 |
Prot0 |
hi kraft! |
| 22:32 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 22:41 |
kraftb |
Hi Prot= |
| 22:41 |
kraftb |
Prot0 |
| 22:44 |
HansPeterBriegel |
hi, how do I permit that typo3 is adding it's on css-tags? |
| 22:46 |
ycas |
HansPeterBriegel: can you be more precise? Do you use an extension like CSC? |
| 22:47 |
HansPeterBriegel |
ycas: I am using css styled content |
| 22:48 |
HansPeterBriegel |
but I don't want typo3 to add csc-header csc-header-n1 etc. automatically |
| 22:48 |
Prot0 |
you can disable that yes |
| 22:48 |
ycas |
if it's installed properly, it should already use it's own css; what exactly is your problem? |
| 22:48 |
ycas |
ah ok |
| 22:50 |
HansPeterBriegel |
Prot0: how? |
| 22:50 |
Prot0 |
http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/html_cleaning/ |
| 22:50 |
Prot0 |
this what I use to do HTML cleaning |
| 22:50 |
Prot0 |
also clears the comments |
| 22:51 |
ycas |
Prot0 was faster |
| 22:51 |
Prot0 |
hege |
| 22:51 |
Prot0 |
just had to take it from my own TS ;] |
| 22:52 |
Prot0 |
That reminds me to make a new blog post |
| 22:52 |
Prot0 |
:D |
| 22:54 |
Thasmo |
Prot0, I now commited via SSH 'svn commit' and it says 'successfully commited'. In Forge the commited files have a new time, like 'edited 3 minutes ago', but my changes are not there. WTF! |
| 22:54 |
ycas |
in yoir link, line 5 is only for 'p' elements (if i get it right); is a list not better for this? |
| 22:54 |
ycas |
like lib.parseFunc_RTE.nonTypoTagStdWrap.encapsLines.encapsTagList = cite, div, p, pre, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 |
| 22:56 |
Prot0 |
erm why? |
| 22:56 |
Prot0 |
oh sorry |
| 22:57 |
Thasmo |
K, sorry - now it's there, seems it took some time to generate the diffs or whatever. |
| 22:57 |
Prot0 |
:D |
| 22:57 |
Prot0 |
erm yeah i think it normally takes some time with the forge |
| 22:57 |
Prot0 |
seen that too |
| 22:57 |
Prot0 |
before my comments would show up etc |
| 22:58 |
Prot0 |
i think the web part is synced every 5 mins or so |
| 22:58 |
Prot0 |
ycas: it should only clear the endless p tags that you get in things like tables etc |
| 22:59 |
Thasmo |
And for now, all my energy is gone, feeling like shit, after walking this path of svn crap. xD doh .... |
| 22:59 |
Thasmo |
but my 2-line changes are in! woohooo |
| 23:00 |
Thasmo |
1 hour for 2 lines. yeah, I can just get more efficient. |
| 23:00 |
Prot0 |
it will get better in time :D |
| 23:02 |
Prot0 |
ah sorry, ycas: its been a time since i wrote that |
| 23:02 |
Prot0 |
line 5 clears out the "bodytext" class from all <p> s |
| 23:03 |
ycas |
ok. no prob; i only c&p stuff i find, have no real clue on typo3. am doing my 1st site with it. |
| 23:03 |
Prot0 |
hehe |
| 23:03 |
Prot0 |
im writing a complete article about it |
| 23:03 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 23:03 |
Prot0 |
i also recommend sourceopt |
| 23:03 |
Prot0 |
for nicely formatting your HTML |
| 23:04 |
ycas |
an extension? |
| 23:05 |
Prot0 |
yeah |
| 23:05 |
Prot0 |
makes nice tidy HTML\ |
| 23:06 |
ycas |
hm. i've had enough with realurl and such |
| 23:06 |
ycas |
my html is clean enough :p |
| 23:06 |
ycas |
do you have a link to an example? |
| 23:08 |
Thasmo |
realurl is for nice urls, not for nice markup. ;o) |
| 23:08 |
Prot0 |
i think my source looks pretty good (always proud of it :P) |
| 23:08 |
Prot0 |
http://sebastiaandejonge.com/home.html |
| 23:08 |
Prot0 |
nice indenting etc |
| 23:08 |
ycas |
i know ;) but for config etc. it's a pain (it was for me) |
| 23:09 |
Thasmo |
realurl is, yes. |
| 23:09 |
Prot0 |
hehe |
| 23:09 |
Thasmo |
in that case realurl sux. |
| 23:09 |
Prot0 |
just have to work a little with it |
| 23:09 |
Thasmo |
i dont like it either, stickin' with static document uris. |
| 23:09 |
Prot0 |
when you understand how the configuration works its not so hard |
| 23:09 |
ycas |
yea. now it's nice. |
| 23:09 |
Thasmo |
if you know yes, but the style how it's done is kinda ... awkward. |
| 23:10 |
ycas |
Prot0: nice, thx! |
| 23:11 |
ycas |
yes. for me as non developer, t3 was pretty counter-intuitive (left this impression) to me |
| 23:11 |
Thasmo |
I mean realurl, not t3. xD |
| 23:12 |
Thasmo |
But I love Extbase/Fluid, and FLow3, that's really near. |
| 23:12 |
Thasmo |
neat. |
| 23:12 |
ycas |
gn8 guys! |
| 23:12 |
Prot0 |
nn :] |
| 23:14 |
HansPeterBriegel |
is there a chance to add via typoscript a | beside every menu point in the output |
| 23:16 |
Prot0 |
| is recognized as a seperator |
| 23:16 |
Thasmo |
yes, there is. |
| 23:16 |
kraftb |
Thasmo: what are you using extbase/fluid for? |
| 23:16 |
Thasmo |
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkrechter_Strich |
| 23:17 |
Thasmo |
kraftb, some extensions, mainly frontend plugins with action controllers/models etc. |
| 23:17 |
kraftb |
what kind of frontend plugins? |
| 23:17 |
kraftb |
simply output some records as list/detail view? |
| 23:17 |
HansPeterBriegel |
Thasmo: thank you... |
| 23:18 |
Thasmo |
yeah also, but also experimenting with domain services in a store/shop extension. |
| 23:18 |
Thasmo |
np hansPeter. |
| 23:18 |
HansPeterBriegel |
wikipedia kenn ich selbst |
| 23:18 |
kraftb |
you could take a look at "kb_display" ... |
| 23:18 |
kraftb |
you do not have to write a single line of code to get your list/detail views |
| 23:18 |
kraftb |
its a general data display extensin ... |
| 23:18 |
kraftb |
+o |
| 23:19 |
kraftb |
you simply insert a FE plugin, make settings like the table you are going to display, some criterias (like only show records having specific checkboxes/selectboxvalues set), and can also add filters which enable the user to filter records in the FE |
| 23:20 |
kraftb |
in TER there is not documentation for the extension, but it is documented on the wiki on forge. |
| 23:20 |
kraftb |
http://forge.typo3.org/wiki/extension-kb_display |
| 23:20 |
Thasmo |
Do I need to create smarty templates? |
| 23:20 |
kraftb |
just for your output, like you have to do with fluid |
| 23:21 |
Thasmo |
Cause I dunno smarty |
| 23:21 |
kraftb |
well. if you learned fluid, smarty is not more complicated ... |
| 23:21 |
Thasmo |
DOes it handle inline records? |
| 23:21 |
kraftb |
yes. |
| 23:21 |
kraftb |
when inserting the FE plugin, you can instuct it to join additional tables |
| 23:21 |
kraftb |
all this configuration is done via flexforms |
| 23:22 |
kraftb |
you simply tell it to join the inline records, and set a configuration which field of your main table has to match which field of your inline table (in most cases the "parent" field) |
| 23:22 |
kraftb |
I somehow did not like the approach of fluid very much ... to create a complete new templating engine for T3 as there is already a very good one out there |
| 23:22 |
Thasmo |
So you can override the TCA? |
| 23:23 |
kraftb |
well ... it does not automatically join the inline records, as for example in a list view you won't need them. |
| 23:23 |
Thasmo |
is smarty 2 out already? |
| 23:23 |
Thasmo |
or was it 3? |
| 23:23 |
kraftb |
smarty 3 is currently in beta phase ... |
| 23:23 |
kraftb |
one thing I find nice about fluid, is that it is valid XML |
| 23:24 |
Thasmo |
I like beeing able to define either XML tags or the procedural style like {f:viewhelper()} |
| 23:24 |
kraftb |
but I assume smarty 2 is more powerful than fluid (I did not take an in depth look at fluid, but smarty exists for much a longer time, and thus should be more stable than fluid) |
| 23:24 |
kraftb |
the "procedural style" like you call it can get implemented in smarty. |
| 23:24 |
Thasmo |
Smarty has a lot more functions at present, that's for sure. |
| 23:25 |
kraftb |
usually you do something like {foreach from=$variable item=loopvar} |
| 23:25 |
kraftb |
and put your list-rows or whatever inside |
| 23:25 |
kraftb |
well. I suggested to the Ingo (or whoever developed the fluid stuff), that they should contact the smarty developers |
| 23:26 |
kraftb |
I was sure - and I am still sure - they would have found it a nice idea, to make a second smarty template-form which is XML compatible |
| 23:27 |
Thasmo |
yeah but someone also proposed to use doctrine for ORM, so in the end they would have come up with a new TYPO3, consisting of a lot of dependent software, which is maybe good, or maybe also not. |
| 23:27 |
kraftb |
I found this a misuse of opensource resources, to code everything a second and third time, if something is already there ... but that seems to be a common thing in the open source world |
| 23:27 |
kraftb |
everybody cooking his own soup :( |
| 23:27 |
Thasmo |
yeah, sadly. |
| 23:27 |
kraftb |
well. they depend on php, apache, mysql ... |
| 23:27 |
Thasmo |
But, do you know commerce? xD |
| 23:28 |
kraftb |
xcommerce or oscommerce? |
| 23:28 |
Thasmo |
'commerce' for typi3 |
| 23:28 |
Thasmo |
rypo3 |
| 23:28 |
Thasmo |
TYPO3 |
| 23:28 |
Thasmo |
doh |
| 23:28 |
kraftb |
ah ... yes... from thomas hempel? |
| 23:28 |
Thasmo |
I dunno. |
| 23:28 |
kraftb |
wait. |
| 23:28 |
Thasmo |
http://forge.typo3.org/projects/show/extension-commerce |
| 23:28 |
kraftb |
na. |
| 23:29 |
Thasmo |
Thomas Hempel (matrikz) is inactive there. |
| 23:29 |
kraftb |
this one I didn't know. I heard about it. |
| 23:29 |
kraftb |
thomas hempel developed a web shop some years ago. |
| 23:29 |
Thasmo |
Is there any useable shop for TYPO3, tho? |
| 23:31 |
kraftb |
well ... depends an what you need |
| 23:31 |
kraftb |
I guess any shop extension need to get adopted to your needs. |
| 23:31 |
kraftb |
and then theres the question of payment gateways |
| 23:31 |
Thasmo |
sure. |
| 23:32 |
kraftb |
what I mean by "needs" is: if you have a bookshop, you have different requirements than for a ebay like auction site or if you sell computer software online. |
| 23:32 |
Thasmo |
yeah, you're right. |
| 23:32 |
kraftb |
first: you have different tables. you could overcome this when using the old-school "tt_products" stuff, by simply relabeling the TCA in the FE using TSconfig or similar |
| 23:33 |
kraftb |
but then you simply have a different kind of actions taken during ordering, browsing the shop, etc. |
| 23:33 |
kraftb |
When I solve such things, I usually use my extension "kb_kickstarter" for creating the tables: |
| 23:33 |
kraftb |
http://forge.typo3.org/projects/show/extension-kb_kickstarter |
| 23:33 |
kraftb |
it generates the tables + sql + tca + ext_tables.php stuff for you. |
| 23:34 |
kraftb |
like the common kickstarter does, but in another fashion |
| 23:34 |
kraftb |
the kb_kickstarter extension allows you to create table/field records and associating them, and features an kickstarter-admin which allows you to generate the table configuration (TCA, etc) out of this information |
| 23:35 |
kraftb |
so more or less you define your tables/fields via some records in the database ;) |
| 23:35 |
kraftb |
it's like scratching your left head with your right hand - but it seems to make sense in this situation. |
| 23:35 |
Thasmo |
huh |
| 23:35 |
kraftb |
you can redefine, reconfigure, add new fields, etc.with a few clicks instead of starting up the kickstarter which messes around with your pi/etc. code |
| 23:36 |
Thasmo |
sounds interesting. |
| 23:36 |
Thasmo |
so its doing TCA, ext_tables.php and ext_tables.sql stuff? |
| 23:37 |
kraftb |
http://forge.typo3.org/wiki/extension-kb_kickstarter#The-Kick-Admin-module |
| 23:37 |
kraftb |
have a look at this image. It shoud make clear what it does for you. |
| 23:37 |
kraftb |
and scroll upwards to see how you define the tables. |
| 23:37 |
kraftb |
just having a look at the pictures should clear most of the concept :) |
| 23:37 |
Prot0 |
yay done |
| 23:38 |
kraftb |
and one of the best things is: the fields you can use (like Text, Integer, Select-Box, etc) are simply smarty templates again. |
| 23:39 |
kraftb |
so for the "Text" field type you have one smarty template for its "tca.php"part, for ext_tables, etc. .... this enables you to easily add new fields types if required |
| 23:39 |
kraftb |
and it's coded very straight forward. |
| 23:39 |
kraftb |
only a few hundred lines of code |
| 23:40 |
kraftb |
36.8 KByte |
| 23:40 |
kraftb |
including all the comments, headers, etc. |
| 23:40 |
kraftb |
:) |
| 23:40 |
Thasmo |
On the first look, it seems to maybe create some overhead, for 'just' creating some tables and TCA. |
| 23:41 |
kraftb |
well. that depends on what you need. If you need the same kind of tables more often, it could save you time. |
| 23:41 |
Thasmo |
But maybe I'm wrong, the normal kickstarter isn't also that fast. xD |
| 23:41 |
kraftb |
you could simply import/export the tables/fields records and modify it like required |
| 23:41 |
kraftb |
it does take some time - that's right |
| 23:41 |
kraftb |
but it shows very usefull and a lot more comfortable to use, when you have to change your tables afterwards. |
| 23:42 |
kraftb |
btw: the tables will not have any "kb_" in their name if you do not want to. you can define your own table/fieldname prefix !! |
| 23:42 |
kraftb |
and finally you could also uninstall the kickstarter extension if you finally have configured your tables completely. |
| 23:43 |
kraftb |
it simply stores all of the generated ext_tables, tca, etc. stuff in a own empty extension |
| 23:44 |
Thasmo |
I see you also wrote a shop. =o) |
| 23:44 |
kraftb |
and I use this extensin in conjunction with kb_display to rapidly: create tables, create list and detail views ... without coding |
| 23:44 |
kraftb |
well ... the shop is more or less the precursor of the kickstart/display duo |
| 23:44 |
kraftb |
the shop was a combination of both - but not very well written, and more or less simply "grow" during the last few years |
| 23:45 |
kraftb |
but last year I recreated this functionally totally new from scratch - based on smarty, and coded in a much much cleaner way than before |
| 23:45 |
kraftb |
(simply look at the code). |
| 23:45 |
kraftb |
I mean: I do not want to sell you those extensions - I probably sound like a "staubsaugerverkäufer" *gg* |
| 23:45 |
kraftb |
Just wanted to let you know ... |
| 23:46 |
kraftb |
http://forge.typo3.org/wiki/extension-kb_display/Kb_display_step2 |
| 23:46 |
kraftb |
again the pictures speak words |
| 23:46 |
kraftb |
I also had a preliminary look at extbase/fluid - and it seems very nice when it comes to coding "new" extensions. |
| 23:46 |
Thasmo |
yeah, you came up, throws in a dozen links and I was like going 'huh' ;o) Nah, I already had seen or heard of 'kb_' extensions, here and there, ut never had the effort to try any. |
| 23:47 |
kraftb |
but the simply list/detail/archive/teaser of "XY records" should get solved without the need for any PHP code |
| 23:47 |
kraftb |
well ... if you used the content slide feature of the CONTENT cObj, or generated some png graphics you already used part of my code |
| 23:47 |
kraftb |
:) |
| 23:47 |
kraftb |
the truecolor-png feature was implemented by me, also as some other parts of the code |
| 23:48 |
kraftb |
many of my extensions are out of date and do not work with 4.3 |
| 23:48 |
kraftb |
.... sadly |
| 23:48 |
Thasmo |
which content slide feature? |
| 23:48 |
kraftb |
if you want to inherit content elements. |
| 23:48 |
kraftb |
lets say you have a news plugin in the right column of your layout |
| 23:48 |
kraftb |
and want it to get displayed on every subpage. then the best thing would be to used the content slide feature of the CONTENT object |
| 23:48 |
kraftb |
like : |
| 23:49 |
kraftb |
lib.subparts.myContent < styles.content.get |
| 23:49 |
Thasmo |
ah |
| 23:49 |
Thasmo |
slide: -1 etc |
| 23:49 |
kraftb |
lib.subparts.myContent.slide = -1 |
| 23:49 |
kraftb |
yes. |
| 23:49 |
Thasmo |
yeah sure, very useful ;o) |
| 23:49 |
kraftb |
that was an own extension before, but got included into the core from 4.0 onwards |
| 23:49 |
Thasmo |
slide collect etc. |
| 23:49 |
kraftb |
yes ... exactly |
| 23:50 |
Thasmo |
so this still works with 4.3 xD |
| 23:50 |
kraftb |
well ... just wanted to tell you about those both extensions .... |
| 23:50 |
kraftb |
the kickstarter/display extensions work very well ... and already some people are using it. |
| 23:50 |
kraftb |
What still is missing is a full featured documentation of both (only documented in forge wiki currently). |
| 23:50 |
kraftb |
and it is best to use the versions from forge SVN |
| 23:50 |
kraftb |
and one more tip: |
| 23:51 |
kraftb |
if you have already something half-finished, using your own custom extension, don't start up re-implementing it using kickstarter/display duo. |
| 23:51 |
kraftb |
... rather finish your current projects like you did before, and give the extensions a try during your next project. |
| 23:52 |
kraftb |
... I had the experience, that some people came into struggling with their projects, and thought the kickstarter/display extension would be some kind of magic solution for their problems |
| 23:52 |
Thasmo |
Yeah, I'll look into it when it'S time for it. =o) |
| 23:52 |
kraftb |
but it also takes time. you have to create the FE-templates, if you want to create links, scaled pictures, etc. you'll have to create TypoScript - etc. |
| 23:53 |
Thasmo |
As I have no experience with Smarty, it would take some time to get into it. |
| 23:53 |
kraftb |
well - it's quite easy. if you know how to create a loop or similar structures |
| 23:53 |
kraftb |
I think I also put an example of a listing/detail smarty template on the forge wiki - but dunno right know. |
| 23:55 |
kraftb |
if there is none just drop me a mail and I'll add one. I already sent an example template including example typoScript to people trying the extension - i had no negative feedback until now. yes. some bug reports, etc. but that's common and usually gets solved very quickly as I also use those extensions |
| 23:55 |
kraftb |
but I am leaving for today ... I met Buzz Aldrin today ;) |
| 23:55 |
kraftb |
the second man on the moon. |
| 23:55 |
kraftb |
He was a keynote speaker on a congress in Vienna |
| 23:55 |
Thasmo |
Nice. |
| 23:56 |
Prot0 |
hehe cool :] |
| 23:56 |
Prot0 |
hey kraftb, didnt i talk to you about jobs in vienna? |
| 23:56 |
kraftb |
Yes. I guess once. |
| 23:56 |
Prot0 |
hehe |
| 23:57 |
Thasmo |
Thanks for the talk to you all, I'm gone for today. =o) Ciao. |
| 23:57 |
kraftb |
Didn't I tell you some companies you could apply at? |
| 23:57 |
kraftb |
cu |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
yeah |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
and I did ;] |
| 23:57 |
kraftb |
which one? |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
cya Thasmo |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
erm |
| 23:57 |
Thasmo |
cya |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
TypoHeads |
| 23:57 |
kraftb |
ah ... ok. |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
Plan2Net |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
erm |
| 23:57 |
kraftb |
did you try plan2net |
| 23:57 |
kraftb |
ok. |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
and some more |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
no reply from them |
| 23:57 |
kraftb |
what did they tell you? |
| 23:57 |
kraftb |
how long ago? |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
and typoheads were only looking for freelancers |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
erm 1 month i think |
| 23:57 |
Prot0 |
or 2 |
| 23:58 |
kraftb |
I can ask the guy at plan2net |
| 23:58 |
Prot0 |
i went by at typoheads |
| 23:58 |
Prot0 |
well i got a job now so hehe |
| 23:58 |
kraftb |
ah ... ok. |
| 23:58 |
Prot0 |
its not needed anymore, but thanks "] |
| 23:58 |
kraftb |
where? |
| 23:58 |
Prot0 |
:] |
| 23:58 |
Prot0 |
erm, small marketing agency, identum |
| 23:58 |
kraftb |
in vienna? |
| 23:58 |
Prot0 |
yeah |
| 23:58 |
Prot0 |
moving there in 1 month :] |
| 23:59 |
kraftb |
fine. |
| 23:59 |
kraftb |
from where are you - or better asking: what is your mothers tongue? |
| 23:59 |
kraftb |
english? |
| 23:59 |
Prot0 |
hehe |
| 23:59 |
Prot0 |
no dutch |
| 23:59 |
kraftb |
ah ok. |