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01:53 daKmoR howto resolve an EXT:extkey/res/test.html path?
01:54 daKmoR in my extension...
01:54 daKmoR it should be relative to the FE
09:10 HardPhuck g'day
09:11 maslenka morning
09:14 aterriblechaos good morning #typo3
09:27 HardPhuck offtopic: if I wanted to buy game console, which one would you recommend, PS3 or XBOX 360 and why?
09:32 PiMB I would go for PC
09:32 PiMB love it
09:32 PiMB have a speedy laptop and attach it to the flatscreen
09:32 PiMB got 2 logitech controllers with build in ventilation
09:32 PiMB it's great ;)
09:32 Prot0 to code typo3 extensions?
09:33 Prot0 ;-]
09:37 HardPhuck PC is out of the question, i'm not buying it just for a few games and i really want a console so i'll play it on my new plasma lol
09:38 maslenka why you can't play PC on plasma?
09:39 lindbergh hello guys
09:39 HardPhuck as i said, a good gaming grade PC costs more than 1500 euros
09:39 HardPhuck i have a mac for development and it suites me well, it's just not for gaming
09:39 lindbergh anyone experienced tranlation problems with "Abstract" part in page properties?
09:40 HardPhuck and PS3 on the other hand costs 300 euros
09:42 HardPhuck lindbergh: i'm just working on a multilanguage part of some page where i use abstract too, i'll let you know in 15 min :)
09:43 lindbergh great dude
09:43 lindbergh thnx
09:43 HardPhuck np
09:46 HardPhuck lindbergh: no problems here
09:46 HardPhuck i have edited original abstract
09:46 lindbergh :(
09:47 HardPhuck and it shows in the front end
09:47 HardPhuck and then the translated one
09:47 HardPhuck and it shows as well when i switch language
09:47 HardPhuck http://www.ograje-komar.si/
09:47 HardPhuck the orange button has abstract in
09:47 HardPhuck and then click english at the top right
09:47 HardPhuck and you will see english abstract
09:47 lindbergh I see
09:48 lindbergh let me check something
09:48 HardPhuck note that you have to edit the foreign abstract on the alternative page language entry
09:52 aterriblechaos HardPhuck: i would buy a WII, imho more fun than ps3 or xbox
10:02 HardPhuck WII is out of the question too, i don't consider it as a 'serious' console :)
10:15 acasto My wife uses my xbox 360 to play pacman
10:16 HardPhuck lol
10:18 acasto I tried to get her on Oblivion, didn't work
10:23 initCH goodmorning
10:23 initCH i installed the TemplaVoila extension, so i got two Web -> Page Menus
10:23 initCH one for TV, one for standard-typo3
10:23 initCH how i can disable the standard page item in the backend menu?
10:23 maslenka in templaviola module settings
10:24 maslenka *templavoila
10:24 initCH aah, great
10:24 initCH ill try
10:25 initCH ah great..
10:25 initCH lol, its so easy.. and i was looking in every typoscript =P
10:52 noob3 hello everybody
10:52 noob3 anyone there?
10:53 acasto yep
10:53 noob3 hi ^^
10:53 noob3 i am right here, if i got problems with my typo3 installation? ^^
10:56 noob3 i try since 2 weeks to run typo3 on my webserver
10:57 noob3 but it doesn't work step 2 from install toll don't work
10:57 noob3 i see the title "Database" bu nothing happend
10:57 noob3 Tool*
10:59 acasto It could be anything from there, we'll need more info like error messages and stuff.
11:04 HardPhuck noob3: do you have database created?
11:04 HardPhuck and a user that can access it?
11:20 initCH mh.. how is the Versioning thing working?
11:21 initCH in the backend i can access pages via versioning, but i cant find some versions
11:57 pascalj Is there a way to use a custom dispatcher within an extbase extension?
12:04 Prot0 anyone in here ever added flexforms to a plugin that was defined as 'new type of menu' (ex. sitemap)
12:26 ironm Hi Prot0 :) .. I have got it working yesterday with your realurl-config .. however I had noticed some strange caching effects when switching the language (e.g. from French to English I had the French-link-name in the address live of my browser)
12:28 ironm Prot0: then I used due to your config a modified realurl_autoconf.php (another cache settings) and did NOT have these caching effects anymore
12:28 ironm Hi guys ;)
12:39 Prot0 ironm: did you configure the language vars properly?
12:40 ironm I guess yes Prot0 .. I will send you the language config if you like
12:44 ironm Prot0: language_defaults.txt - http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/language_defaultstxt
12:45 Prot0 i meant the language vars in realurl
12:45 Prot0 this only configures the default langiuage btw
12:48 ironm Prot0: and http://paste.phlogi.net/lang_definition
12:48 ironm wait ...
12:50 Prot0 you have the same definitions over and over
12:53 ironm Prot0: and my realurl config: http://paste.debian.net/77896/
12:53 ironm you are right Prot0 .. I have to simplify the http://paste.phlogi.net/lang_definition code
12:54 ironm Prot0: I guess more important is the setting for caching ...
12:54 PiMB Prot0, if it's realur_autoconf then it does that, doesn't keep in mind the double settings
12:55 ironm PiMB: I used a realur_autoconf BUT have modified it and used it as manual config
12:55 PiMB ah okay :)
12:56 ironm PiMB: it is maybe not perfect but it works as I wanted .. 2 domains / 3 languages .. incl Domain jumping when switching languages
12:58 ironm PiMB: I have tried some manual configs but still had strange caching effects when switching the language
12:59 ironm Prot0 / PiMB : I could play a bit more with the setting for caches
13:01 ironm Prot0: did you notice any caching effects (like the one-click-before link value) when switching the language to another one? .. (the link value in the address line of the browser has how to say the value of one click before ...)
13:01 ironm anyway it helped me a lot Prot0 ! .. thank you very much :)
13:01 Prot0 nope, didnt have that problem :)
13:02 ironm well .. I use it with typo3 4.4 beta3 ...
13:03 ironm debian squeezy (server) and kanotix (debian testing) client ... iceweasel browser
13:15 Prot0 i suggest you use a stable version :-)
13:15 Prot0 4.3
13:15 Prot0 *4.3.3
13:21 ironm Prot0: do you know if the tables-structure of 4.3.3 and 4.4 beta3 are the SAME? .. and ONLY the php/sql code varies?
13:21 ironm salut pgampe ;)
13:22 Prot0 its probably not, but i think you can downgrade
13:22 Prot0 without any problems
13:22 ironm Prot0: what I mean was just to use the 4.4beta3 DB-dump with the 4.3.3 code ...
13:22 Prot0 yes
13:23 ironm at least I can test it and look what will happen ;)
13:39 pgampe ironm: hello
13:39 ironm :)
13:40 ironm can somebody tell me WHY I have to put "plugin.tx_srfeuserregister_pi1.enablePreviewRegister = 0" in the Constants-part of the root template? .. If I put in the Setup-Area of the root-template it doesn't work
13:41 ironm what is the difference between these areas ?
13:41 pgampe ironm: what is your realname ... I am not sure currently ;)
13:41 ironm schneider
13:42 aterriblechaos ironm: probalby because the extension author uses it as constant .. you can look at the static typoscript template of plugin.tx_srfeuserregister_pi1 to verify if its used there
13:43 ironm hi aterriblechaos :) .. thanks a lot! .. yesterday I started the reading of the book from Dmitir Dupolev ... "TYPO3-Extensions Entwickeln" (developing of TYPO3 extensions)
13:44 pgampe ironm: read this ;P http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_ts/current/
13:45 aterriblechaos hello ironm! i did not read it, but im shure it's good
13:45 ironm thanks a lot pgampe and aterriblechaos :)
13:45 ironm I read somewhere that it should be much more easy to write extension when using flow3
13:48 aterriblechaos hm not shure if its easier, you have to use a domain driven design with all up and downsites .. you can use extbase and fluid for typo3 4.X to get a feeling how it will be (and probably write extensions that will work on typo3 5.0)
13:49 ironm aterriblechaos: I was asking me already what is exbase and fluid good for???
13:50 aterriblechaos extbase ist a backport from flow3 that gives you some of the flow3 features for developing extensions in typo3 4.X and fluid will be the new templating engine in 5.0
13:51 ironm aterriblechaos: I see ... did you try already flow3 ?
13:52 aterriblechaos not really, i played around a bit with it once or twice
13:52 ironm pgampe: I guess I was reading this documentation already .. a bit dry stuff ;) .. have to read it again and AGAIN *v*
13:53 ironm aterriblechaos: if plan to design a website with flow3 .. do you have similar procedures as with typo3 4.x ?
13:54 aterriblechaos no, flow3 is only a framework you dont have for example a backend or styles.content.get or similar things..
13:54 aterriblechaos they will build typo3 5.0 based on flow3
13:54 ironm hmm ...
13:54 aterriblechaos flow3 is comparable to cackephp or zendframework
13:55 ironm I see ... nothing for me now ...
13:55 ironm typo3 5.0 would be more that what I should look for @ aterriblechaos
13:56 aterriblechaos yes, same for me
13:58 ironm depreciated log .. a new extension a new surprise ... :-/ http://paste.debian.net/77902/
13:59 ironm is it ONLY a warning? tslib_cObj->checkEmail() - since TYPO3 3.6 - Use t3lib_div::validEmail() instead
14:00 aterriblechaos yes it is only a warning, i think it will be fixed in future versions of srfeuserregister ..
14:00 Prot0 ironm: sr_feuserregister is a pretty old ext
14:00 Prot0 its still being updated though
14:00 ironm merci :) ... I hopped already to look for a new bug ;)
14:01 ironm hoped ...
14:01 ironm is there a better recommended one that sr_feuser_registesr Prot0 ?
14:02 Prot0 not with as many features i think
14:04 ironm strange .. I have "Français" in the language menu .. but the localized version of the content shows me "[Translate to Français:] Thank you for visiting ... "
14:05 ironm I have set utf8 in the DB etc .. what can be a reason ?
14:05 ironm is it a bug OR a feature? .. OR maybe my brain is the bug? *g*
14:12 pgampe ironm: check out dataminds_feuser
14:13 ironm pgampe: is dataminds_feuser a variable or a script?
14:13 pgampe an extension :)
14:15 ironm oh ... I will check it ... thank you pgampe :)
14:19 ironm pgampe: No matching extensions found. ... dataminds_feuser
14:50 ironm pgampe: it sounds really nice! :) .. datamints_feuser
15:13 TheEternalAbyss morning ironm :)
15:13 ironm how are you today TheEternalAbyss ? .. did you get a solution yesterday?
15:13 TheEternalAbyss I'm goof thanks for asking
15:13 TheEternalAbyss good too
15:13 TheEternalAbyss lol
15:14 TheEternalAbyss how are you?
15:14 TheEternalAbyss and no not yet, shich is why I'm going to ask again now :D
15:14 TheEternalAbyss which* (can't type today it seems)
15:14 ironm well .. germany has lost .. 0:1
15:14 TheEternalAbyss yea i just saw
15:14 TheEternalAbyss wow
15:14 PiMB \o/
15:14 ironm prost *g*
15:15 TheEternalAbyss OK so I have pages with tables
15:15 TheEternalAbyss you can see it here: http://thierry-technology.com/index.php?id=274
15:16 TheEternalAbyss as you can see there's gas supply , vacuum chamber etc
15:16 TheEternalAbyss each page will have the same tables
15:16 TheEternalAbyss but the data inside the tables change
15:16 TheEternalAbyss some have gas supply A, others have A and B, etc
15:17 TheEternalAbyss now I know I can reference content in typo 3
15:17 TheEternalAbyss but I am wondering is there a wway to have a master table of all gas supply, for example, and then each page picks what it needs to display fromt hat master table?
15:20 TheEternalAbyss from that*
15:21 aterriblechaos TheEternalAbyss: i dont know of a typo3 way to do this, i think you need a custom extension
15:21 ironm I still don't know the right answer TheEternalAbyss ;)
15:22 TheEternalAbyss hmm, the only thing can think of is that since table can be defined with just plain text
15:23 TheEternalAbyss I could have all rows in text fields and assign a variable to them somehow and then just put the variables in the actual product pages...or I guess I guess an extension could be built, btu I've never built one
15:23 TheEternalAbyss but*
15:26 aterriblechaos imho a extension for this is quite simple, you add a new table with all fields you need and you extend pages to have a extra field where you can select the suplies. than you make a small output plugin and you are done .. still experience with php and typo3 is needet for that task
15:27 TheEternalAbyss I haven't used php in years really
15:27 initCH hey.. aim back
15:28 aterriblechaos TheEternalAbyss: if you are typoscript pro it also can be done with typoscript ;)
15:28 initCH can someone tell me how i can block the use of some FCE's for a special backend group?
15:31 TheEternalAbyss in TS?
15:31 TheEternalAbyss hmm
15:31 TheEternalAbyss like just do a Flexible Content Element?
15:32 TheEternalAbyss that would be interesting
15:46 TheEternalAbyss maybe i could just modify the table content element
15:48 TheEternalAbyss and an index to the rows ...or a true/false or 0/1 option for displaying it
15:50 aterriblechaos a fce would work too, you just need the option to select the needet records and render them
15:53 TheEternalAbyss yea
15:54 TheEternalAbyss but al these options are just beyond my skills at the moment :\
15:55 TheEternalAbyss or rather, I don't really have the time to experiment and learn and do this stuff
17:40 ironm pgampe: can you use datamints_feuser with freecap (or a similar one) togehter?
17:41 raviepic3 ries, good to hear
17:41 raviepic3 il read more about it and get back here
17:42 ries raviepic3: most people have in the beginning a love/hate relationship with TYPO3... but once the marriage get's longer it's mostly love
17:42 ries other divorce...
17:43 pgampe ironm: I don't know, I have never tried ... proberly yes
17:43 ironm *ROFL* | ries
17:43 ironm pgampe: it not bad to have such one when registering
17:43 raviepic3 ries, lol
17:44 boonkerz https://secure.avaaz.org/de/whales_last_push/?rc=fbp&pv=1
17:45 ironm with the time you know more and MORE of all the dis- and advantages of typo3 *ggg* @ raviepic3 / ries
17:45 pgampe ironm: yes, but double-ot-in usually keeps the spammers outside :)
17:46 ironm no idea what "double-ot-in" is pgampe .. I have to check it out *v*
17:47 raviepic3 well, i just googled "how is typo3 different from other cms" and guess what i foind no straight articles explaining this ! !
17:47 ironm raviepic3: it is like the best one . but also like the most terrible one ;)
17:48 raviepic3 ironm, well i see a evil laugh and a lot of reasons behind when you say that :P
17:48 raviepic3 ironm, any link to know about it firsthand ?
17:48 raviepic3 like how different is it from other cms
17:49 raviepic3 like drupal or joomla
17:49 raviepic3 or any other for that matter
17:49 ries raviepic3: the real difference is tha TYPO3 had a different way of templating and has a configuration system called Tyuposcript
17:50 ries typo3 V4 doesn't try to use all fancy/fuzzy buzzwords like AOP, DI, DD MVC but it's a fairly straightforward API
17:50 raviepic3 :)
17:51 raviepic3 any links to read more about it ?
17:51 ries typo3.org?
17:51 ries you can also read : http://hatetypo3.blogspot.com/2008/04/welcome-to-i-hate-typo3-list.html
17:51 ironm raviepic3: about 2.5 years experience with a break (4.1.5 .. I had to create my own .deb packages to get it easy install many times when somethin was not running again and again ... )
17:51 ries there like 50 peopel that don't like it... and like to blog about it
17:52 ironm raviepic3: and for last 3 months typo3 4.3.3 / 4.4 beta3 ...
17:52 ries raviepic3: I guess to big advantage is that TYPO3 tries to be backward compatable between minor versions
17:52 ries and ususally you don't have to hack extensions, so uopgrades are easy... companies tend to like this
17:53 ironm typo3 is another type of CMS than drupal and Co ... @ ries
17:53 raviepic3 lol
17:54 ironm ries: when you use the last OSes you have to debug and change the code for some needed extensions (php 5.3 issues )
17:54 raviepic3 oh
17:54 raviepic3 ries, looking into the link now
17:54 ironm there are many different pitfalls raviepic3 ...
17:55 raviepic3 so what makes you love typo3 ?
17:55 ironm the possibilities you have with manys extensions raviepic3
17:56 ries raviepic3: what are you trying to make/do with TYPO3 ?
17:57 raviepic3 ries, my friend wants a website, he approached me and i chose drupal to start with and found it sucked big time when it comes to media modules, and then switched to joomla cause heard it has rich media and admin facilities
17:57 raviepic3 and when speaking to you in #moodle, i came here to explore the possibilites which typo3 can provide me
18:00 ries raviepic3: I know that Steffan K is working on a new media type where you can include youtroep, vimeo and other stuff
18:00 ries if he just want's a blog, he should use wordpress
18:01 raviepic3 ries, nope, he aint wanting a blog, he wasnts a full fledged website
18:01 raviepic3 to post and announce his religious things
18:01 ries raviepic3: you should take a look at the WEC package then
18:01 pgampe raviepic3: be warned, it takes month!!! to get proberly started with TYPO3
18:02 raviepic3 wec in typo 3 ?
18:02 ries http://webempoweredchurch.org/services/download-packages/
18:02 pgampe or use a ready to go package (see above)
18:04 raviepic3 ries, this ones a budhist kind of
18:04 raviepic3 but will have a look
18:05 raviepic3 thanks for letting me know
18:46 rawtaz hm, theres something i dont understand.. in a Page's list i have seven records, mixed text and text/image. the first four are visible in the page, but the last three arent, i cant see them anywhere. nor can i see them in the Page's layout (under Web->Page).
18:46 rawtaz but, they are not marked as hidden or anything, so i dont understand what it is that decides whether they should be shown in the page or not. any pointers?
18:47 rawtaz under the [Ref] column in the Web->List view for this page there is a "1" on each of the four records that i can see, but nothing on the three others, in case this has to do with it
18:49 rawtaz it seems that its the "References to this item" that differs.
18:54 aterriblechaos rawtaz: using templavoila? then probably the elements are not linked to the page
19:46 ironm cul8r :)
21:06 TheEternalAbyss would someone be willing to make an extension for me
21:06 TheEternalAbyss paid of course
21:06 TheEternalAbyss hired as a freelancer
21:06 TheEternalAbyss or as a consultant to tell me how to do it :)
23:12 soee how can i make Rollover effect on my menu (there are only images no text)
23:13 ironm there are some commands ..
23:14 soee ironm: ye but none works for me, im using aliases to create menu from images NO ar ACT (image change) works fine
23:14 soee but i need also RO :?
23:15 ironm soee:
23:15 ironm # Roll-Over-Effekt einbauen
23:15 ironm 1.RO < .1.NO
23:15 ironm 1.RO {
23:15 ironm # Roll-Over-Textfarbe
23:15 ironm 10.fontColor = #006ab3
23:15 ironm # Roll-Over-Image auf den Menüpunkt rendern
23:15 ironm # 12 = IMAGE
23:15 ironm # 12.file = fileadmin/images/muster_blau_o.gif
23:15 ironm # 12.offset = 6, 0
23:15 ironm # Eine ggf. vorhandene zweite Menütextzeile anzeigen lassen
23:15 ironm 13 < .10
23:15 ironm 13.text.listNum = 1
23:15 ironm 13.fontColor = #006ab3
23:15 ironm 13.offset = 10, 25
23:15 ironm }
23:15 ironm # Aktuelle Seite im Roll-Over-Zustand halten
23:15 ironm 1.ACT < .1.RO
23:15 ironm ops .. sorry ..
23:15 soee ;]
23:15 soee ill try
23:15 ironm soee: - http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/rollover
23:18 ironm soee: http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/menuexample

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