Search the website and IRC logs

#TYPO3 IRC log from : Tuesday 22 June 2010

Year: 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Month: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Sep Oct Nov Dec
Day: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
00:22 ironm is there a way to run awstat with a safe php-mode? ... my error message: "'safe_mode' is enabled in PHP what makes it impossible for this script to run AWstats."
00:27 stompudown hi anyone here?
00:27 ironm yes .. hi stompudown
00:27 stompudown hi
00:27 ironm is there a way to run awstat with a safe php-mode? ... my error message: "'safe_mode' is enabled in PHP what makes it impossible for this script to run AWstats."
00:27 stompudown german?
00:27 ironm yes
00:51 rawtaz ironm: i guess not, assuming the issue is that in safe_mode the script cant access the log files
01:01 ironm hi rawtaz :) .. thanks a lot for your answer
01:01 ironm the point is that I am getting this error message from typo3 BE .. when clicking on the awstat icon
01:02 ironm rawtaz: I was just looking in two typo3 books for more info
01:03 ironm rawtaz: I have placed a log file in fileadmin/log/ .. it is accessible
01:04 ironm I have to check if I can simply put the awstat code in execdir/ of typo3 ...
01:11 rawtaz i wish you luck :)
01:11 rawtaz i must go sleep now
01:11 rawtaz night
01:15 ironm gn8 :)
01:15 ironm and thank you very much rawtaz :)
01:20 ironm gn8
01:36 Neil_Haskins Does anyone know where to find documentation for the feuser_admin extension?
01:36 Neil_Haskins The link on in the documentation library goes to a page which says "The T3X archive contained no file "manual.sxw" in the folder doc/." and I can't find anything in the wiki.
06:13 nveid hey.. just noticed my mm_forum is displaying in german in the front end... how do i fix that?
06:15 nveid oh nm.. just noticed the template i put in there, had german set in the template typoscript
08:57 neoneye how does one exclude some content elements from indexed_search, similar to TYPO3SEARCH_begin/end ?
09:00 neoneye the problem are some Filelinks that are indexed
09:03 neoneye I think I'm looking for robots.txt for indexed_search
09:06 neoneye the checkbox "Index:" in the General pane.. is it used by indexed_search?
09:09 smeringe neoneye: don't think so. it refers to if it should be counted as a section on the page
09:10 neoneye thanks, just wondering
09:10 smeringe but on the other hand. what do I know. I'm struggeling with getting indexed_search working as I want in the first place
09:11 smeringe anyone know if mnogosearch can categorize it's result as indexed_search is supposed to be able to? (using different indexing rules)
09:11 smeringe can't find anything about it in the doc
09:34 rawtaz man, there are a lot of questions in here but not a lot of answers ;-)
09:49 maholtz|WORK @smeringe: regarding indexed_search: do not enable "partial search", search only for whole word. and set stop-words. cannot help you with mnogosearch, what was the problem with indexed search?
09:51 smeringe maholtz|WORK: thnx. I'm trying to set it up with a grouped search result where I'd like to first display hits from a products table, and secondly hits from normal pages. I've set them up with index configuration, but it doesn't work (get no results when using sections)
09:55 maholtz|WORK @smeringe: did you check bugs.typo3.org?
09:56 smeringe maholtz|WORK: no, not yet. I've been dancing tango with indexed_search, taking two steps fwd, one back..(that's tango right? :) )
10:07 maholtz|WORK lol
10:57 rawtaz guys i need some pointers regarding my 4.3 installation that have been upgraded from 4.0 or so recently. the current state is that it pretty much works but now and then i come across bugs/php problems in extensions. for example now templavoila gives a php error, and the obvious thing is that it should be updated
10:59 rawtaz but for some reason i cant find how to update the extensions. ive gone to the extension manager and all the pages there but the closes i find is "Check for extension updates" and that one only lists two extensions regardless what i do
11:00 rawtaz i have fetched the list of extensions from the repository by clicking "retrieve/update" in "Import extensions", not sure what else i can do?
11:01 pgampe make sure you uncheck "security review extensions only" in settings (ext-mg)
11:04 rawtaz hmm. if i go to the configuration module/page, which configuration should i choose in the drop down at the top, to find this?
11:07 rawtaz duh, you probably mean in the extmgrs control panel
11:07 rawtaz there!
11:07 rawtaz pgampe: ill get you a beer any time ;)
11:07 rawtaz thanks
11:19 heyho hi all, i need typoscript for standard meta tag output from backend
11:22 heyho i found it :-)
11:22 heyho page.meta{
11:22 heyho keywords.field = keywords
11:22 heyho keywords.ifEmpty (
11:22 heyho typo3, backend
11:22 heyho )
11:22 heyho description.field = description
11:22 heyho description.ifEmpty (
11:22 heyho Eine Einführung in das Typo3 Backend und Tutorials zum CMS Typo3
11:22 heyho )
11:22 heyho robots = INDEX,FOLLOW
11:22 heyho }
11:22 heyho bye
11:22 Denyerec2 PASTESPAM
11:23 iaj ;)
11:29 ironm good morning guys ;)
11:30 ironm .. and ladies .. in case there are some here around
11:30 pgampe ironm: good morning ... lunch time? :Ü
11:30 pgampe :P
11:31 ironm looks more like a lunch time than a breakfest time pgampe ;)
11:35 rawtaz question; when i am at the extension manager and have the "extension imported" message in front of me, i suppose the next step is to further click "update" in order to import the data and add fields to the database as listed here..
11:35 rawtaz but, there is also an "enable fatures" heading, under which i can check "use patch 1822". however this patch doesnt seem related to this specific extension (static_info_tables) as i read the description
11:36 rawtaz the description is "Install this patch from bugs.typo3.org or install the extension patch1822 to have an advanced page module". my question is, is this related to the extension or is the update view im looking at generic and thats the reason this patch is listed here too?
11:37 ironm rawtaz: I have used always the "patch 1822" .. and all was working perfect .. with 4.3.3 and 4.4beta3
11:37 rawtaz yeah i guess it works :) just trying to figure out how come it is listed here, in a view about updating a specific extension. but maybe theyre related
11:38 atmos4 ironm: probably look at this: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=1822
11:40 ironm thank you very much for the hint atmos4 :) .. I am not sure now if I need an additional "path 1822" when installing tt_products??
11:40 atmos4 it depends on wether you need the features of it
11:40 atmos4 it is optional
11:40 rawtaz heres another summary: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/patch1822/0.0.8/view/1/1/#id2344663
11:42 ironm I see .. I will install tt_products within the next few days ..
11:42 xaa hello
11:42 atmos4 funny it's been commited to core after only 5 years ;-)
11:42 rawtaz haha :)
11:42 xaa To backup the database. Can I empty the cache_ table ?
11:43 pgampe xaa: yes
11:43 ironm atmos4: quite a long time *g*
11:43 atmos4 xaa: or just skip them
11:43 xaa other table can be clear ?
11:43 xaa my db is arond 80mb for a basic typo3 site
11:43 xaa around
11:43 atmos4 the references db can get huge
11:43 atmos4 table
11:44 pgampe xaa: not much ... you could skip sys_history and ref index (see above by atmos4)
11:45 atmos4 just export structure for the tables you skip, so they are recreated on a virgin import
11:46 xaa If I empty the cache_ table, the site online will stay available without problem ? (that's a small site with few traffic).
11:46 rawtaz aight, fingers crossed that templavoila 1.1.1->1.4.4 will go smooth :)
11:47 ironm does one of you have got cc_awstats working with php safe_mode? - I am getting such error message in BE when clicking on the awstats icon in BE - I use 4.4 beta3 and php 5.3.2-1 with safe_mode. Any idea how to get it working?
11:47 ironm The log has been written correctly in fileadmin/log
11:48 pgampe ironm: turn safemode off
11:49 pgampe ironm: it is deprecated since ages
11:49 ironm I have copied all the awstats in execdir .. but don't know what I should do more
11:49 ironm pgampe: for some reason debian still use it as a defeult !
11:50 ironm default ...
11:51 ironm rawtaz: I had a lot of troubles with templavoila in the past .. so I am not going to use it again *g*
11:51 maholtz|WORK @xaa: empty cache_* tables is not an problem with low traffic sites
11:51 ironm pgampe: it should be possible somehow to get awstats working also with the safe_mode of php ..
11:52 rawtaz ironm: oh? that was unexpected, since it seems to be the one everyone uses so to say. what will you use instead?
11:52 ironm rawtaz: well .. TV has some advantages .. but if you make changes quite offen it means a lot of work ...
11:53 ironm I mean mapping .. @ rawtaz
11:54 atmos4 awstats in 2010?
11:54 atmos4 go for piwik
11:54 ironm atmos4: thanks .. I will try it :-)
11:55 atmos4 awstats is sooo oldskool ;-)
11:55 atmos4 piwik is pretty nice
11:55 ironm *ggg* æ atmos4
11:55 rawtaz hm piwik, interesting :J
11:55 ironm atmos4: does it work with the php safe_mode?
11:56 atmos4 well it uses javascript tracking
11:56 atmos4 so it should
11:57 atmos4 meaning it doesn't need access to apache logs
11:57 atmos4 and additionally you don't count bots
11:58 atmos4 it works similar to google analytics
11:58 atmos4 only it runs on your own server
11:58 atmos4 of course you can use a single piwik install to monitor several sites
11:59 ironm interesting atmos4 :)
12:00 rawtaz do you think i should check any of the "Enable classic Page module", "Enable data strcture selection" and "Enable Header for FCE's", by default/when i dont know what they are?
12:01 rawtaz i read in a post somewhere that the first one was recommended to be turned off
12:04 ironm atmos4: there are some piwik extensions: piwikintegration, bn1_piwik, piwika2 and piwik .. do you use the BE piwikintegration extension ?
12:04 atmos4 no, I simply gave customers the url to piwik
12:05 atmos4 or you mean for adding the tracking code?
12:05 ironm atmos4: I don't know all the extensions until now . have to read first about
12:06 atmos4 well apparently there's one that lets you call piwik from the backend and so also would handle user authentication
12:06 ironm the newest one is piwikintegration and piwik ..
12:07 atmos4 I'm using bn1_piwik for the tracking code
12:08 atmos4 although it would be trivial to add that code to ts or your html template aswell
12:08 ironm atmos4: it looks like piwik adds an additional JS-code to the pages ..
12:08 atmos4 yes that's what I mean with tracking code
12:09 atmos4 it's a short js snipped inserted just before </body>
12:09 ironm atmos4: I have to check it . piwik and bn1_piwik ...
12:10 maslenka hello guys
12:10 rawtaz hi
12:11 maslenka have you ever experienced tt_news frontend plugin to render empty content
12:11 maslenka with no obvious reason :|
12:12 maslenka it gets temporarily fixed by "clear all caches" button in admin interface
12:12 maslenka then again, something happens and I have no tt_news listings on page
12:13 maslenka or their are missing on random pages
12:13 atmos4 probably a php error
12:13 atmos4 check apache error_log
12:13 atmos4 ok, need to switch to ipad for a sec
12:14 maslenka well i have multiple typo3 instalations on server and only one with 2 languages has the problem
12:15 maslenka however i go see apache logs
12:15 atmos4 Great toy ;-)
12:15 atmos4 Hmm, do you have translations of all the pages
12:16 atmos4 Including storage folder for news
12:16 maslenka hmm yes
12:16 maslenka when i clear caches i have news on both languages
12:16 maslenka i come next day.. no news
12:18 atmos4 I once had a similar prob, but don't remember the solution
12:18 maslenka cant find anything special in apaches error log
12:19 maslenka just some favicons missing
12:19 atmos4 Well, if you only see page at first time, there must be problem caching it
12:20 atmos4 Because at second page load, typo3 tries to fetch from cache in db
12:20 maslenka it seems it disappears when I for example add new pagecontent for page
12:20 atmos4 So you might want to look at cache tables and maybe enable mysql transaction log, to see if queries fail
12:21 maslenka nonono would get out of diskspace very soon with transaction logs
12:22 ironm WOW ! .. Release of TYPO3 4.4.0 RC1
12:22 maslenka going to repair tables though
12:22 maslenka cant hurt
12:24 atmos4 Maslenka, well transaction log should only be enabled to see what happens if news page gets written to cache
12:24 atmos4 Alternatively you could use a php debugger
12:24 maslenka atmos4: there is tons of other services usnig mysql on the server
12:25 atmos4 Maybe, get a copy of the typo3 site to a test server
12:25 maslenka my boss had and excelent idea to put devel for typo3 on production server
12:25 atmos4 No good idea
12:25 maslenka yea
12:26 maslenka that server is running advertising service
12:26 maslenka have constantly 1000+ apache threads
12:26 maslenka try to search something in log :<
12:26 atmos4 I run a Linux vm as dev server on my Mac
12:26 maslenka im running devel on my desktop
12:26 maslenka but that is not accessible for customers
12:27 atmos4 Yea
12:27 atmos4 Well a cheap server would do for devel
12:27 atmos4 Vserver
12:28 maslenka thanks god we have processors without virtualisation support because they are cheaper
12:28 maslenka and it takes time to set up virtual machine ^^ :D
12:28 atmos4 Well I meant rent an extra server
12:28 maslenka kindermanagement
12:28 atmos4 Vserver damn spelling correction
12:29 maslenka rent.. are you crazy :) that costs money
12:29 atmos4 Yea like 10 bucks
12:29 maslenka yea
12:29 maslenka who cares it makes work easier
12:29 ironm atmos4 & maslenka : is it possible to use a kind of local devel -> internet production server "go live"-Function to transfer the last version of the site? .. without manually copying and restoring the DB etc ?
12:30 maslenka maslenka: i'm using manual method
12:30 atmos4 ironm: Don't know of an automatic way, but maybe there's an ext or script for that
12:31 maslenka it might be dangerous unless your devel and production machine have same configuration
12:31 atmos4 Ok, have to get some stuff done, cya
12:31 maslenka bye bye
12:32 ironm atmos4: I can make a copy of the DB and all appropirate dirs and restore them on the production server .. BUT it is not the way I would like follow ...
12:32 ironm maslenka: it looks like it is an cache issue
12:33 maslenka yea im making script to run repair on all tables :D
12:33 maslenka dont want to shutdown mysql on prod server
12:33 maslenka would get my ass kicked hehe
12:33 ironm *g* æ maslenka
12:35 untouh23 hi
12:36 maslenka hello
12:36 untouh23 im having a problem : i need to clear the FE cache right now but i cannot log into the backend cus of some server issue i have no time to fix right now ... but i can access the install tool
12:36 maslenka im gonna die of that cache
12:36 untouh23 is it possible to clear the fe cache via install tool?
12:37 untouh23 i just needed to replace a few html templates but i need to clear the FE cache to show them
12:38 teppi|work untouh23, you can empty the cache_xxxx tables manually ..
12:38 Frimp098s good day.
12:38 ironm hi Frimp098s :)
12:38 Frimp098s and a a day with yet another unanswered question..
12:39 Frimp098s how can i do hashes purely in typoscript?
12:39 ironm it is just typo3 Frimp098s *g*
12:39 Frimp098s hi ironm
12:39 untouh23 wich table is it : teppi?
12:40 untouh23 cache_extensions
12:40 untouh23 cache_hash
12:40 untouh23 cache_imagesizes
12:40 untouh23 cache_md5params
12:40 untouh23 cache_pages
12:40 untouh23 cache_pagesection
12:40 untouh23 cache_treelist
12:40 untouh23 cache_typo3temp_log
12:40 Frimp098s i have a country list, a table wich holds them, i dont want to pick the country from the db every time butcreate a data hash so that i can access it bei iso code..
12:41 Frimp098s bei = by .. it's something with my brain
12:42 untouh23 thanks
12:42 untouh23 solved it
12:43 maslenka yea i repaired that cache_* tables and so far I have my news :) wonder when they are going to disappear again
12:46 anarcotraffic can someone say me why the output is width 120 when i have give the width of 160
12:46 anarcotraffic http://paste.phlogi.net/-e2542ee3e0
12:46 anarcotraffic can someone see the error on this ts
12:49 anarcotraffic can someone help me
12:51 Frimp098s anarcotraffic> is width an attribute to file or to image?
12:52 Frimp098s aah gifbuilder.
12:52 Frimp098s forget that i asked
12:53 anarcotraffic to the file
12:53 anarcotraffic the file must have 160 width
12:53 anarcotraffic i resolved the problem with XY
12:54 anarcotraffic temp.picbar.file.XY = 160,300
12:54 anarcotraffic the problem is the file doesn t load from resources
12:59 lindbergh hello guys
13:01 lindbergh need help for TV menu implementation
13:01 lindbergh consider this situation
13:01 lindbergh on the page
13:01 lindbergh there is a top menu
13:01 lindbergh and side menu
13:01 lindbergh I mapped successfuly top one
13:02 lindbergh added new date element named "field_sidement", as element preset i choosed TypoScript Object Path
13:02 Frimp098s .. is there a way to disable alanguage temporarily?
13:03 lindbergh and for mapping rules I added: table:inner,ul,div,tr,td
13:03 lindbergh and I mapped sidemenu from template
13:03 lindbergh but now
13:03 lindbergh on frontend
13:03 lindbergh when I preview work
13:03 lindbergh both top and side menu
13:03 lindbergh have same menu items (home, about us, contact...)
13:04 lindbergh I added typoscript label for side menu: sideMenu
13:04 lindbergh and did all programming in TS for page template
13:04 lindbergh lib.sideMenu ... etc
13:04 lindbergh any ideas please?
13:09 maslenka my news are again gone
13:10 maslenka lindbergh what is the typoscript codes for your menus?
13:11 smeringe lindbergh: think you need to post your menu ts to some pastebin and fwd.. ..^ eh maslenka :)
13:11 maslenka smeringe: you know something about tt_news disappearing from page, don't you? :P
13:12 lindbergh here is code
13:12 lindbergh http://pastebin.com/076PYMre
13:12 smeringe mine's always there ;) no, sorry. no direct ideas. most probably some ts or tv (if you use tv) mapping has changed?
13:12 neoneye maslenka: if you automatically import your tt_news via RSS, then perhaps the RSS xml is an empty file
13:13 lindbergh I just added lib.sideMenu part
13:13 lindbergh all other is autogenerated with TV
13:13 smeringe lindbergh: start of by cleaning up dublicated declarations of mainMenu.. ;)
13:14 smeringe remove the second declaration part and then all will be fine
13:14 smeringe row 10 -24
13:14 smeringe ops
13:14 maslenka neoneye: i have 1 single news item manually added, in 1 manualy create category
13:14 smeringe lindbergh: ops aagain, row 10 -13
13:15 smeringe no . I'm to fast. I'm quite now :D
13:16 lindbergh smeringe: and to leave rows 29-40?
13:17 smeringe lindbergh: no, forget what I said..
13:17 maslenka is it 3 menus there, one redeclared?
13:17 Frimp098s ...disableLanguages it is, thanks
13:17 lindbergh sub menu is autogenerated but I never used it
13:17 lindbergh only main and side menu
13:18 smeringe you got a submenu as well
13:18 smeringe you want sideMenu to be second level?
13:18 lindbergh no
13:18 lindbergh just want to have two menus
13:18 lindbergh one top
13:18 lindbergh and one side
13:18 maslenka delete it so, and delete first declaration of mainMenu.. else you come month later and will look at it like on an alien
13:18 smeringe +1
13:19 lindbergh still nothing
13:19 lindbergh I left only main menu decl and sidemenu decl
13:19 maslenka you want two menus with same menu items?
13:19 maslenka or?
13:19 lindbergh nope
13:19 lindbergh two separated menus
13:19 lindbergh ie.
13:20 lindbergh top one with top_page1, top_page2....
13:20 lindbergh and one with
13:20 lindbergh side_page1, side_page2...
13:20 lindbergh now what i see is that both menus have top_page1, top_page2...
13:20 smeringe that didn't say much did it? I still guess you want the sideMenu to be starting from second level...
13:20 maslenka put your page structure in pastebin
13:20 maslenka as it is in typo3
13:21 lindbergh how do you mean page structure
13:21 lindbergh ts code?
13:21 lindbergh fce?
13:21 maslenka no i mean your page tree
13:21 lindbergh ok
13:21 lindbergh http://pastebin.com/q82Uzn0h
13:22 lindbergh this is what I have both on top and side menu
13:22 lindbergh and that tree was autogenerated when I mapped top menu
13:22 lindbergh I considered that at the moment I map side menu...i will get additional entires
13:23 lindbergh for side menu I have "overview", "products" , "details"
13:23 lindbergh but this is not generated in tree
13:23 lindbergh sorry "overview", "prices", "details"
13:24 lindbergh I never used TV....I am automaketemplate guy
13:25 smeringe it's done in the same way....
13:25 smeringe ..anyway. where does overview, products and details go in the page tree?
13:25 smeringe under products or..
13:25 lindbergh nope
13:26 smeringe as a submenu to, or on the same level as..?
13:26 lindbergh it should be separated completely
13:26 lindbergh same level
13:26 maslenka lindbergh: first think of page strucure, create the page sctructure.. and then you can start making menus
13:26 lindbergh I just do not understand concept...why is tree autogenerated when I made top menu
13:26 lindbergh and when I made side menu nothing happened
13:26 maslenka i dont know, never managed to use that autogenerated thing
13:26 lindbergh so the best practice is to make structure first
13:27 lindbergh and then to map?
13:27 maslenka yes
13:27 lindbergh so steps are now
13:27 lindbergh to make overview; prices; details
13:27 lindbergh in the tree
13:27 lindbergh and than to map?
13:27 lindbergh after that proper menu should appear?
13:28 maslenka well you better write typoscript for your menus on your own
13:29 maslenka because if you want all your pages be on same level on page tree, but split in 2 menus, you gonna need special menu
13:30 lindbergh I will try now to make this using submenu
13:30 lindbergh an will back to you here
13:38 anarcotraffic hello
13:38 anarcotraffic can someone say me why the import doesn't work
13:38 anarcotraffic http://www.phlogi.net/t3/tsp/sp/-e2542ee3e0
13:39 anarcotraffic can someone see the error
13:39 anarcotraffic ?
13:59 sorenmalling anarcotraffic: What happens and what did you expect to happen?
14:05 milpoer hi.. i have a problem with my realurl, the pages cannot be displayed, server log says: file does not exist, my Info tab BE, show that the pages/urls are in cache.. any hints ??
14:09 sorenmalling milpoer: Do you have a .htaccess file in your root folder?
14:10 milpoer damn.. simple error.. forgot the mod_rewrite in .htaccess.
14:10 milpoer thanks
14:12 sorenmalling np :)
14:16 rawtaz does anyone have experience in making typo3 and the yii framework play together?
14:30 ironm milpoer: I don't use the .htaccess file but put the rewriting rules in apache.conf ... well, I have access to the whole server
14:30 milpoer i have too.. but .htacess for seperat domains fits my needs best.
14:32 ironm milpoer: i have separate apache-config for every site
14:32 ironm apache2 ...
14:34 ironm milpoer: I am not sure if there some performance advantages doing it in such way .. instead of using .htaccess in every dir ..
14:35 ZaFantasy hi
14:35 maslenka of course its performance issue, if you have configuration spread over directories. however you have other pros/cons of every method
14:36 ZaFantasy can I add any custom icon in BE right there where is eedit, info, history etc. icon. I would add icon just for my own extension, not for all other content elements etc.
14:43 ironm maslenka: If I have the rewriting rules in apache2.conf files it should work faster I guess
14:43 ironm maslenka: what are cons?
14:44 ironm maslenka: I guess you can define inside apache2.conf rewrting rules for every dir in the web-tree
14:47 maslenka ironm ofc you can
14:48 ironm maslenka: you can forget of course some dirs if doing in one central place .. that is true ...
14:48 maslenka you can have users in need to define own rules etc
14:49 ironm maslenka: yes .. your are right
14:49 ironm you ...
14:49 maslenka like now my colegue invented some "css comprimation script" and wanted me to put <Files style_athea.css> SetHandler application/x-httpd-php </Files> to .htaccess
14:49 maslenka i sent him to hell
14:50 maslenka he could pretty much generate his "comprimated" css into file and put result on server...
14:52 maslenka or name his file .php, but i really cant find any need to generate css file with php
14:53 ironm :)
14:54 maslenka whee i still have tt_news on page
14:54 maslenka maybe the cache issue is gone (knock knock)
14:55 sorenmalling Anyone here knows how to define my own ctype and create how to write the class handling it in the backend?
14:57 ironm hi sorenmalling :) .. no idea *v*
14:57 maslenka neither
14:58 maslenka tbh, did not understand the question
14:58 nveid Hey
14:59 nveid curious... how hard is it to create a typo3 module that uses another sql database? all forms & fields of somethign else...
15:01 milpoer ironm, dont know either.
15:03 ironm milpoer: I can't follow now .. what topic/issue do you speak about ;)
15:04 milpoer ironm, the .htaccess performance.
15:05 ironm I see milpoer .. I mean the performance is better when you put the rewriting rules in the appropriate apache2.conf (for every domain/server)
15:06 milpoer i know what you mean.. :)
15:06 milpoer but dont know if it perform better..
15:07 maslenka it does since you dont have to parse .htaccess every time you visit page
15:19 jananne hello, does anyone know how i can secure videofiles from getting ripped from my website.. so they can't be saved local?
15:21 pgampe jananne: impossible ... in order to be displayed on the client computer, the must be transferred to it ... of course they can be ripped then
15:22 jananne pgampe: isn't there a away to limit this?
15:22 maslenka no
15:22 maslenka once it is on client computer, he can do anything with it
15:22 jananne yes okay but i mean when it's loading from the website it self..
15:23 jananne like youtube
15:23 maslenka you can save files from youtube
15:23 jananne ofcourse they can also be ripped.. but it's limited..
15:23 maslenka how :o
15:24 jananne isn't it possible somehow there conferted by an extension into a flashplayer or something and then the can't be ripped or something, i dunnooo.
15:24 jananne bummer :/
15:25 pgampe jananne: of course you can hide the download link and stream the video via flash player
15:25 maslenka you can save it, period
15:25 jananne :p
15:25 pgampe but experienced users can always rip it
15:25 maslenka you can take some tokenizer into consideration, but it will just make ripping a little harder
15:25 pgampe you can just obscure dumb users :P
15:26 Frimp098s question: i try to setup google sitemap. i use the code i've got with weeaar_googleSitemap. now the problem is, if i place it in an include, i get a "Page not configured" error. if i place this directly in the setup of the template all is fine :( why that?
15:26 jananne okay, thx maslenka and pgampe :)
15:27 jananne hmmm
15:27 maslenka Frimp098s: checked module configuration in extension manager?
15:27 jananne got me thinking
15:27 jananne howbout
15:27 jananne unable to click rightmousebutton on a surten page :)?
15:27 maslenka lol
15:28 maslenka that is useful against IE users, yea
15:28 jananne there are scripts for this right :P?
15:28 maslenka "prevent javascript from changing context menu" :D
15:30 Frimp098s maslenka> cant find any config. but i guess this is a typo3 issue
15:31 maslenka hmm havent used that particular addon
15:31 Frimp098s that ts includes are not included before some page defs are loaded :(
15:32 pgampe Frimp098s: try wec_map
15:34 Frimp098s looks like some geo map extension
15:35 Frimp098s hmm. strange
15:35 Frimp098s maybe i was just blind. now it works
16:15 ironm piwik looks quite nice .. BUT I hate it to use Flash: - "Displaying Graphs in Piwik requires Flash >= 9.0.0. More information about displaying graphs in Piwik."
16:17 HardPhuck hmm flash? why didnt they use JS?
16:19 ironm a good question HardPhuck
16:20 ironm I would prefer to keep all my systems Flash-FREE *g*
16:20 ironm HardPhuck: on the client side you need flash ...
16:21 ironm to wacht some graphs ..
16:21 HardPhuck yeah, i hate flash too
16:21 HardPhuck well, not hate it... i just wish it would go away :)
16:22 HardPhuck the forums say it's on their to-do list
16:22 HardPhuck well, i'm using GA mostly and i see no reason to change
16:23 HardPhuck and my second option would be mint
16:24 ironm is one you you running the piwik extension? ... "Install Piwik and create your Piwik account" confuse me a bit .. is it a FEuser account for the access to the piwik-statistic-pages?
16:24 HardPhuck dunno, never used it
16:25 ironm there is at least the hope that they are working on a flash-replacement HardPhuck :)
16:25 HardPhuck yea
16:26 ironm HardPhuck: I have tested just cc_awstats .. BUT it is not as comfortable as piwik's ouput statistics
16:27 ironm HardPhuck: http://piwik.org/demo/
16:46 Denyerec2 ironm: TV is the way forward :)
16:46 ironm Denyerec2: I will not move back to TV
16:47 ironm Denyerec2: there were still some backs when I had to edit some files inserting manually some xml tags .. I hat it
16:47 ironm hate ..
16:48 ironm some bugs .. *gg*
16:48 ironm sorry .. I need lunch *lol*
16:53 HardPhuck not move back to TV? i thought TV is "the thing"? :)
16:54 ironm HardPhuck: it is quite nice .. but makes also some troubles ..
16:54 Denyerec2 Ooof.
16:54 HardPhuck so what do you use?
16:54 Denyerec2 When did you last use it Iron ?
16:54 Denyerec2 because recently it's been very kind to me.
16:54 ironm HardPhuck: in particular when you have frequent changes ..
16:55 HardPhuck ironm: what's the alternative then?
16:55 Denyerec2 You should inly have to make frequent changes when you set up the site, though. once it's configured, you don' need to edit it that often, surely?
16:55 ironm Denyerec2: I loved it to use TV 2.5 years ago .. last time I used TV 2 months ago ... trying to upgrade my old site ..
16:56 ironm Denyerec2: depends what you are doing you need mostly to remap .. it makes a lot of stupid work
16:57 ironm HardPhuck: there is no one .. just normal templates ..
16:58 HardPhuck no way i'm going back to normal templates ...
16:59 ironm Denyerec2: another issue was .. I was not able simply to reuse my old (4.1.5 tree-export .. I used TV) with 4.3.3 or 4.4b2 and the new TV
17:02 Denyerec2 Oooof.
17:02 Denyerec2 Yes I can imagine some issues there
17:03 Denyerec2 Maybe you just got unlucky :(
17:03 ironm Denyerec2: the best is just with typo3 NOT to TRUST anything .. you now that first after your OWN test ;)
17:03 ironm you know that ..
17:04 Denyerec2 hehe
17:04 ironm well .. the typo3 user/developer community can help a lot
17:05 HardPhuck ironm well, the best way to upgrade sometimes is to play around with mysql manually
17:06 ironm HardPhuck: that wasn't the point .. I've just wanted quickly to update my old site .. AND NOT to debug around in the DB or the PHP code
17:07 HardPhuck with exporting?
17:07 ironm it is just a part of the learning ;)
17:08 ironm import didn't work HardPhuck
17:08 HardPhuck i usually don't use export/import to upgrade
17:09 ironm depends what you want to do HardPhuck ... sometimes it would be really helpful to import only the tree and the content from an exported xml-file ...
17:09 ironm and it didn't work clean every time ..
17:09 ironm cleanly ..
17:10 ironm at least for me HardPhuck ..
17:12 HardPhuck i always just use the symlink way to update,... and then the wizard
17:13 HardPhuck never used import/export because it never seemed... right :)
17:50 Frimp098s is there aan example for a öogin box template to refer to in the plugin options for the loging plugin?
17:50 Frimp098s i wonder what fields are supported there
17:52 Frimp098s öogin = login, sorry
17:53 Frimp098s tzheaaah: http://typo3-blog.net/uploads/media/fe-login-template.html
17:53 ironm do you use felogin Frimp098s ?
17:59 ironm hmm .. it looks like I am TOO blond to config piwik / piwikintegration:(
18:00 ironm Frimp098s: why do you want to change the template for felogin?
18:15 Frimp098s because i would like to use the same form html layout i have on the rest of the bpage
18:18 Frimp098s ironm: yes, felogin
18:18 Frimp098s found a good example
18:20 Cyroq I've made a menu using Resources. It works fine but the menu buttons (images) are placed into divs, and the <a href> tag is placed outside the div. IE doesn't like it, how can I place the <a href> around the image instead of the div?
18:21 ironm Frimp098s: makes sense .. you have the original template.html in approx: /usr/share/typo3/typo3_src-4.4/typo3/sysext/felogin
18:22 ironm depends on your typo3 version Frimp098s
18:26 Frimp098s as i said, ive found a pretty comprehensive template here: http://typo3-blog.net/uploads/media/fe-login-template.html
18:34 Frimp098s .. the formhanlder uses a convenient way to put in translations. it allows for ###LLL:something### is this a global typo3 feature or related to the formhandler extension?
18:58 ironm Frimp098s: with the appropriate .css ?
19:21 Frimp098s ironm: where does css come in here? its a language thingy, a practical mapping for all values inside the lang.xml for formhandler.
19:27 rawtaz what does FCK stand for? front something?
19:29 ironm Frimp098s: stylesheets of the formhandler: http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/formhndlr
19:39 nkuttler hrm, any recommendation for extbase/fluid docs? i don't mind buying books. or will http://forge.typo3.org/projects/534/wiki/Documentation do?
19:42 ironm nkuttler: there are probably not good books at all for such topic
19:57 rawtaz mooh
19:59 ironm whats up rawtaz ? ;)
20:02 Frimp098s FCK, i guess that is one version of htmlarea, wysiwig css html editor or?
20:02 ironm smurfslayer: realy nice subdomain ;)
20:03 ironm Frimp098s: it is with sure a translation of german FKK ;)
20:04 rawtaz Frimp098s: but what does it mean? :)
20:04 rawtaz ironm: not much
20:04 ironm I know rawtaz .. I am kidding a bit
20:04 rawtaz :)
20:09 ironm rawtaz: FCE = Flexible Content Elements ..
20:09 rawtaz oh ok
20:09 ironm I didn't find FCK ..
20:09 rawtaz oh
20:09 rawtaz might be that then :<
20:10 rawtaz that i was thinking about
20:10 rawtaz i read it earlier
20:23 exs hi
20:23 exs i have a question
20:23 exs i have 4 documents in my pagetree which are listed as the 4 first under the root document
20:23 exs i want to generate a menü listing only the first 4 pageelements with their underlements
20:23 exs i dont know how to do this
20:26 HardPhuck Check for TMENU in TSREF documentation
20:28 HardPhuck http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsref/4.3.2/view/1/7/#id2519836
20:28 HardPhuck here
20:28 HardPhuck see example
20:31 exs dont want to use entryLevel cause then i need creating extra pages for menus
20:33 exs the document is very large
20:33 exs give more concret informatino plz
20:37 HardPhuck remove the entryLevel option
20:38 HardPhuck and use excludeUidList
20:39 HardPhuck to exclude all the pages you dont want in that menu
20:40 exs but there are endless
20:40 exs i only want the first 4 elements in the list
20:40 HardPhuck how many pages do you have on the same level?
20:40 exs and the rest the second menu
20:40 exs 100
20:40 HardPhuck 100?
20:40 exs jo
20:40 HardPhuck what kind of website has 100 pages on the same level?
20:41 exs can you give me an solution or not?
20:41 HardPhuck yes i can, but i'm trying to help you MY way so you will learn something
20:41 exs what can i learn?
20:41 exs i want to use the most elegant way
20:42 exs and that is only include the first 4 pages in the list
20:42 exs and not to exclude 96
20:42 HardPhuck well you can learn how to properly organise a website and make TS menus
20:42 HardPhuck put those 4 pages into another page
20:43 exs then i need to create more than 100 pages für that menu
20:43 HardPhuck and then use directory directive in TS
20:43 exs thats not very intelligent too
20:43 exs is there not another way?
20:43 HardPhuck yes there is
20:43 Cyroq Hi there, can somebody help me with creating image menu's using Resources?
20:43 exs HardPhuck: dont say to make pages redundant
20:43 HardPhuck how many subpages do you have in total?
20:44 exs duuno uncoutable
20:44 HardPhuck then use special.list
20:45 exs is there somethingl ike list the first 4 pages?
20:45 HardPhuck no
20:45 exs hm ok
20:45 exs then i have to do it with extra container and use entrylevel
20:45 exs isntß
20:45 exs ?
20:45 HardPhuck no
20:46 HardPhuck i just said use special.list directive
20:46 HardPhuck in typoscript
20:46 exs mom
20:46 HardPhuck 20 = HMENU
20:46 HardPhuck 20.special = list
20:46 HardPhuck 20.special.value = 1,2,3
20:47 HardPhuck replace 1,2,3 with IDs of your first four pages
20:47 HardPhuck you might want to consider reorganizing your website, if you have 100 pages on the same level i'm pretty sure organization of your pages is poor
20:48 exs hm ok it function
20:50 Cyroq Hi there, can somebody help me with creating image menu's using Resources?
20:51 Cyroq I want to know if it's possible to add a style="blabla" tag to the generated <img> tag
20:52 exs ah nice ok HardPhuck thx for u help
21:01 HardPhuck np
21:08 HardPhuck Cyroq it is bad practice to use imgmenu
21:10 Cyroq HardPhuck, I know, but I have to because part of my header goes through my menu
21:10 HardPhuck Can't you solve it with CSS?
21:11 nkuttler ironm: thanks. i thought so. i'll stick to the online docs
21:11 Cyroq But I need to adjust the automatically generated <img> tags so the css style of the image is there without wrapping a div around it
21:11 Cyroq It won't work in IE with div's :(
21:11 ironm nkuttler: you are welcome ;)
21:11 HardPhuck can i see it?
21:33 exs HardPhuck: additional question. i include content with < get.content.style
21:33 exs but the css formation doesnt function
21:34 exs i guess i have to include a css file which typo3 document writer uses
21:34 exs can u help me?
21:34 exs cause the class align-center doesnt exist my document try to use it
21:35 exs styles.content.get i mean
21:36 ironm you define your css stylesheet somewhere in the root template exs .. the file should be there
21:37 exs no i define in typo3 script
21:37 exs but iam talking about the css file of typo3 and not my own
21:37 exs that file typo3 uses to generate the code for the documents written in typo3
21:38 exs the page generates that code: <div id="c6" class="csc-default" ><p class="align-center csc-frame-frame1"
21:38 exs but i have nowhere a css file containing that classes
21:47 exs heeeeeeeeeeello^^
21:47 ironm exs: the following command will dispaly you all .css files you have
21:47 ironm fileadmin/staticTS# find ../../ /usr/share/typo3/typo3_src-4.* -name *.css | more
21:51 exs i only need the css styles.content.get uses to generate its content
22:06 ries no party here???
22:11 Wol hi, someone know how to load skin in typo3 module with extbase?
22:11 Wol the t3skin!
22:12 Wol with 4.4
22:12 ironm Hi Wol
22:12 Wol hi :)
22:13 ironm I use typo3 4.4b3 .. but don't have any ideas how to load an additional skin
22:13 Wol not an additional skin but the basic skin
22:14 ironm hmm .. the basic skin is always active i guess
22:14 Wol i upgrade to 4.4 and now i dont have the beautiful skin with my module made with extbase!!
22:14 ironm 4.4rc1 ?
22:15 Wol 4.4final
22:15 Wol when i comment the line $this->view->render(); the skin is loaded
22:15 ironm I will update today later .. maybe will get the same problem ;)
22:15 ironm however I don't use extbase I mean ..
22:16 Wol yeah the problem is with extbase
22:16 ironm Wol: if you like I could test it with 4.4b3 .. when you tell me how to test it
22:17 Wol you dont need to test it ;) probably i need to register the skin for my module
22:17 Wol https://svn.typo3.org/TYPO3v4/Core/trunk/NEWS.txt -> search $TBE_STYLES
22:19 ironm thank you Wol .. I will check it :)
22:19 Wol :)

Technologies


R. van Twisk 2004-2010 R. van Twisk / Avenida Diego de Almagro No: 22-47 y Juan Severino / Quito Ecuador
callto://r.vanTwisk | Support: +1 (803) 4263350

© 2012 R. van Twisk. All Rights Reserved.