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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Thursday 3 June 2010

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01:00 Sephis somebody using t3blog an has experience with pingbacks =? Trackbacks Ok, but pingback dont wanna work ...
04:44 Sad hello?
04:45 Sad can someone helo ?
04:45 Sad *help
04:48 someonepleasehel hello
04:48 someonepleasehel is there anyone who can help me? pleaseeeeeeeee
08:28 noway Hi!!
08:29 noway Can somebody help me to setup tt_products categories display in menu?
09:10 Bluespuke hello, a question about tt_news and versioning: an editor creates a news entry on a draft workspace. the state of this news is still editing. but in the FE it's visible... (tested even on another internet account)
09:10 Bluespuke is there a bug in tt_news?
09:13 noway guys, lib.subMenu < lib.cat2menu_tt_news replaces submenu, and is there any way to add lines to submenu?
09:13 PiMB how do you mean?
09:15 noway I mean I ve got submenu Items already and want to add more
09:15 noway via lib.cat2menu
09:16 noway http://paste.phlogi.net/-a62e2497c1/
09:21 dbugger Hey guys. Is it possible to make a menu with different images in each button? How?
09:35 Bluespuke dbugger: NO.ATagParams = class="link-{field:aias}"
09:35 Bluespuke dbugger: NO.allStdWrap.insertData = 1
09:36 Bluespuke dbugger: then you give good aliases and use css background-images
09:40 dbugger I cant use css background, i need to use the img tag...
09:43 Bluespuke dbugger: then you should look for beforeImg/afterImg
09:43 Bluespuke and combne that with the alias if neccessary
09:44 dbugger I dont know how "alias" work
09:51 initCH good morning
09:51 noway initCH: good day)) in spb is 12 o'clock)
09:52 initCH i got 10am in switezrland
09:52 initCH spb?
09:56 initCH noway?
09:56 noway yep! Saint-Petersburg, Russia
09:56 initCH aaah
09:56 initCH nice =)
09:57 initCH i'd like to goto russia some day..
09:57 noway where? Spb?
09:57 dbugger How do I set up a alias?
09:57 initCH oh.. i dont know
09:57 initCH maybe
10:02 initCH hey noway, u got a min or two?
10:02 initCH or someone else..
10:03 initCH im learning typo3 atm.. and im creating a template using templavoila
10:03 initCH now i got a H1 in my template i'd like to show the page title
10:03 noway initCH: TV is sux, still using it too, trying to get tt_products to work
10:03 teppi|work dobroi djen! =)
10:03 noway teppi|work: privet)
10:04 initCH i added it as content elemnt what works well.. but i'd like to show automatically the page-name that i dont have to type the page-title for every page manual
10:04 noway initCH: good question, I'd like to know that too)
10:05 teppi|work learned russian for years in the school and have never really needed it :-( ..
10:05 teppi|work and i forgot a lot until today ..
10:06 teppi|work initCH, you can map a typoscript object onto your H1 ..
10:06 teppi|work like maybe lib.mypagetitle
10:06 teppi|work in your typoscript you fill the pagetitle into this "object" ..
10:07 initCH aah..
10:07 initCH u know a howto or tutorial or something for that teppi|work?
10:07 initCH i got around 4 really big books.. but i cant learn with books..
10:08 initCH i have to try .. try.. google.. try .. ask try.. =)
10:08 teppi|work errr .. dont know .. would have to google for it too ..
10:08 teppi|work but isnt there a documentation for TV?
10:08 teppi|work in the extension manager available
10:08 teppi|work ?
10:08 teppi|work iirc there were some examples
10:09 initCH how i get into the tv documentation?
10:11 dbugger what this guys does here is correct? http://www.typo3-addict.com/2008/11/gmenu-with-a-different-image-for-each-menu-item/
10:11 teppi|work initCH, choose extension manager
10:12 teppi|work loaded extension .. and select "shy extensions"
10:12 teppi|work you'll get a list of your installed extensions
10:12 initCH ill try, thx
10:12 teppi|work in the column "doc" you can download your documentation
10:13 teppi|work you'll need open office to read the documentation
10:13 teppi|work I#m afraid
10:14 teppi|work dbugger, its ok as long as you don't need the field for something else ..
10:15 teppi|work maybe an extra field would be better .. but I think its ok
10:24 Cyroq Hi there, can somebody tell me if there's a way to just replace a certain wrap with other html in a template?
10:24 Cyroq I don't need the page's name or anything in it
10:28 noway initCH: have u managed to to what u want?
10:28 initCH nope..
10:28 initCH im try'n around with the template
10:34 noway and where I can add a new content element in the template?
10:34 noway to view page name
10:35 noway for ex
10:38 Cyroq Is there any way to just replace a piece of code (wrapped) with another piece of html?
10:40 noway Cyroq: i think typoscript can do
10:40 Cyroq noway: That's what I mean :) I guess there is one simple line that can do that, but I can't find it!
10:41 noway googlig is an answer for me)
10:41 noway *googling
10:41 Cyroq I tried it, no success yet
10:43 Cyroq I can only find subjects about menu's, that how I solved it now but it takes a lot of code and is not meant for it
10:46 teppi|work Cyroq, what do you mean exactly .. I dont understand, what you want to do.
10:49 Cyroq Okay I have a piece of html code wrapped in my template. Now I want to replace that piece of code with something else, in the setup of the template
10:49 teppi|work there are some conditions
10:49 teppi|work you'll can use
10:49 Cyroq teppi|work: I asume I need to use stdWrap or wrap, but I don't know how
10:50 teppi|work you know this one: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view
10:50 teppi|work ?
10:50 Cyroq Hmm I suppose I dpn
10:50 Cyroq don't*
10:51 teppi|work Cyroq, and maybe this: http://forge.typo3.org/news/show/32
10:52 Cyroq I know how to insert text with stdWrap etc, but I don't know how to 'find' or call the wrapped part so I can replace it
10:55 pmk65 Cyroq: There's no search/replace functions in TS, but you could write a userfunc/extend stdWrap with the functionality yourself.
10:56 noway pmk65: glad to hear from you! I was waiting)
10:56 Cyroq pmk65, This is what I use right now: temp.bckgrnd = HMENU temp.bckgrnd.1 = TMENU temp.bckgrnd.1 { NO.allWrap = <td height="649" width="620" colspan="6" rowspan="7" valign="top" background="fileadmin/templates/main/images/bckgrndb.jpg" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div style="display:none">|</div> ACT = 1 ACT.allWrap = <td height="649" width="620" colspan="6" rowspan="7" valign="top" background="fileadmin/templates/main/images/bckgrndb.jpg" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div
10:57 Cyroq Damned it's quit unreadable
10:57 pmk65 Cyroq: take a look at this ext.. -> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/typoscripttools/current/
10:58 Cyroq What is that extension about?
10:58 teppi|work Cyroq, http://t3paste.org/
10:58 Cyroq teppi|work, thanks!
10:59 Cyroq See, I can use this: (subparts.menu1 < temp.menu1) to replace the wrapped part 'menu1' with a menu. So there has to be a way to replace that part with a piece of html code right?
11:00 Cyroq For example, to replace it with a table cell or div
11:01 noway Cyroq: Is there a possibility not to replace by "<" but complete
11:01 noway Cyroq: another menu
11:01 noway Cyroq: ?
11:01 Cyroq What do you mean?
11:02 teppi|work Cyroq, I still don't understand your problem :D
11:02 noway http://www.phlogi.net/t3/tsp/sp/-a62e2497c1/ but I'd like to have both submenu and cat2menu
11:05 Cyroq teppi|work let me try to explain again ;) My website is quite difficult to use Typo3 because every menu item has a different image-button with different size. Since I don't need to adjust the menu later on I just use a different template setup for every page. Now I want to replace a certain menu item (image) with another image. The easiest way to do this for me is to just replace the <img> part in the template setup.
11:08 teppi|work I think you'll do it much to complicated .. I think each page should save its menu-images in the page data .. so you can set these images via the backend ..
11:08 teppi|work on this way you only need one setup
11:08 teppi|work like its done in the example somewhere above
11:09 Cyroq I'm quite new with Typo3 and I actually only need a variable content
11:09 Cyroq How can I set the images for every page then?
11:09 teppi|work and why don't you use the ressources field like described above?
11:09 ironm good morning :)
11:10 Cyroq which resources field do you mean?
11:10 teppi|work if you put everything statically into the setup .. you'll lose all advantages of the cms
11:10 Cyroq I know, I only need the possibility to change the content text actually
11:10 teppi|work oh it was someone else
11:10 teppi|work someone posted this link
11:10 teppi|work http://www.typo3-addict.com/2008/11/gmenu-with-a-different-image-for-each-menu-item/
11:10 teppi|work i thought it was you
11:10 teppi|work because its the same problem :p
11:11 Cyroq Haha ok :P
11:11 teppi|work you should use some code from there .. i think
11:11 teppi|work *could
11:11 Cyroq Ok that looks very useful!
11:12 Cyroq I'll see if I can use it for my website. I also have 4 'main pages' with different subpages, can I still use resources then?
11:14 ironm does one of you run typo3 _4.4_ beta3 successfully? - I am missing language_id in menu-links (TMENU) - the same setup works for typo3 4.3.3 .. http://paste.phlogi.net/lang_definition2-1/ + http://paste.phlogi.net/lang_switch_menu2-1/
11:14 ironm Thank you in advance for any hints ;)
11:15 ironm my own language-menu has the correct language_id links ..
11:15 teppi|work Cyroq, why not? You'll just have to save for each page its menu-image ..
11:16 Cyroq Ok, and I need just 1 root template?
11:19 ironm another issue is "simulate static documents" .. it works correctly with russian e.g. BUT NOT with Chinese (utf8 in both cases). There is NO word in front of e.g. "14.0.html" .. any idea WHY? )
11:19 teppi|work Cyroq, normally yes .. but i can't say this for sure because I know nearly nothing of your project ;)
11:21 teppi|work Cyroq, normally you create one root template and just extend / overwrite parts of this template in subpages if there is no way around this (imho) ..
11:22 teppi|work on this way you can outsource your root template into a textfile for instance and work on it in an editor and you are able to check in into a cvs and so on
11:23 ironm the advantage of typo3 _4.4_ is that it is working correctly with a https setting for all pages .. typo3 4.3.3 doesn't :(
11:23 many win 22
11:24 noway guys, if I uninstall a plugin, will the base be cleaned up>
11:24 noway ?
11:24 Cyroq teppi|work I don't get what you mean by the last sentence but I will try to work it out =)
11:28 teppi|work I don't know if you know this already .. but it is a good idea to include your typoscript setup from a textfile .. so you are able to work on it in a texteditor and to use a cvs-system etc.
11:32 Cyroq Hmm I didn't know that. What is the advantage of that? And wat is a cvs system?
11:33 ironm Cyroq: like: <INCLUDE_TYPOSCRIPT: source="FILE: fileadmin/staticTS/footer_new_setup.txt">
11:33 Cyroq ironm, thanks!
11:35 teppi|work Cyroq, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrent_Versions_System
11:36 snoy_ms noway: do you mean base = database ?
11:38 Cyroq Thanks for all the links and info, I will read some things and try to work it out.
11:38 ironm you are welcome Cyroq ;) .. "footer_new_setup.txt" can be like: http://paste.phlogi.net/footer_example_ts-1/
11:39 ironm good morning ries :)
11:40 ironm Cyroq: you will get like: "© 2007-2010 - Company name - Alle Rechte vorbehalten - Letzte Änderung: 03.06.2010 01:48 CET"
11:41 Cyroq ironm, thanks. I will first try to solve my menu-problem and then see if I can work with CVS etc =)
11:41 ironm ries - one question - do you run maybe typo3 _4.4_ beta3 successfully? - I am missing language_id in menu-links (TMENU) - the same setup works for typo3 4.3.3 .. http://paste.phlogi.net/lang_definition2-1/ + http://paste.phlogi.net/lang_switch_menu2-1/
11:41 ironm Cyroq: what is your menu problem?
11:42 dec__ is the base url property from typoscript available as some variable in typo3 extensions?
11:42 ironm another issue is "simulate static documents" .. it works correctly with russian e.g. BUT NOT with Chinese (utf8 in both cases). There is NO word in front of e.g. "14.0.html" .. any idea WHY? )
11:42 Cyroq ironm, I described it above. It is about using Resources in page properties to create a static menu with images
11:43 ironm Cyroq: SORRY .. I didn't get it .. logged in first after your messages I guess
11:44 Cyroq Yes you did ;) No problem, I think I know how to do it now. Maybe I'll return in a few hours ;)
11:44 ironm well .. HOW and WHERE can I report a typo3 bug?
11:44 ironm good luck Cyroq ;)
11:48 Cyroq Oh, one more question. teppi|work, is the resources method you gave me based on 'live rendering' of images? Because I really need to use prepared images from Photoshop
11:52 teppi|work Cyroq, http://www.essentialdots.com/int_en/blog/typo3_advanced_menus_using_tmenu/index.html
11:53 teppi|work have a look at the lines with the index 50
11:53 teppi|work this are normal images included in the menu ..
11:54 teppi|work *these
11:54 teppi|work import.field is the field in the pages-table
11:56 ironm well .. HOW and WHERE can I report a typo3 bug?
11:56 aterriblechaos on bugs.typo3.org ironm
11:57 ironm thanks aterriblechaos :)
11:58 pmk65 ironm: If it's a bug in an extension, you should first check if the ext is on Forge.
12:00 ironm thank you pmk65 :) .. it is a strange behavior of "simulate static documents" (doesn't work for chinese (utf8) ... even if working for russian)
12:00 ironm pmk65: another issue are just missing language_id in menu-links (HMENU/TMENU) in typo3 4.4 beta3
12:11 Cyroq teppi|work: thanks. However, I found another problem. That code only replaces the <img> part, and my images are in a table cell en every image has other sizes! So I guess I still need a different setup for every page
12:12 teppi|work you can save multiple images in the ressources field
12:12 teppi|work just an idea
12:12 teppi|work there are lots of ways .. ;-)
12:12 ironm does one of you run typo3 _4.4_ beta3 successfully? - I am missing language_id in menu-links (TMENU) - the same setup works for typo3 4.3.3 .. http://paste.phlogi.net/lang_definition2-1/ + http://paste.phlogi.net/lang_switch_menu2-1/
12:13 Cyroq I know, but look at this code: 50.wrap = <div class="teaser_right_content"> | </div> It is not possible for me to use it, because every cell (in this case a div) has different dimensions
12:15 Cyroq unless I also use DIVs with a default width, so the div's width adjusts itself to the image's size. But maybe it will become just as complicated as my first solution
12:41 danielig hi typo3istas
12:42 danielig I am looking for a joomla2typo3 conversion script, at least for a standard install of joomla. Do you have anything like that around?
12:48 teppi|work danielig, never heard of something like that .. I'm afraid you'll have to import the contents manually
13:19 KrabatR Hello, i have a problem with my tt_products shop. exatly it is the Paypal Payment suite.... it wont send the customer data to Paypal.... no problmen with the product data... just the customer data like address it wont sand... any idears?
13:22 ironm no idea KrabatR ..
13:22 KrabatR :-(
13:23 ries ironm: that was in the middle of the night still ç:)
13:23 ries I didn't try 4.4beta yet
13:23 ironm I see ries :)
13:24 ironm ries: there are troubles with typo 4.3.3 when I want to use https for all pages ...
13:24 ironm and the same tree for http and https ...
13:24 ironm OR/AND with https (enforcer) on top ...
13:25 ironm or without ...
13:25 ries ironm: I would send a mail to typo3-dev and see if other also have issues
13:26 ironm ries: I try to report a bug fo typo3 .. first reading how to do it ..
13:26 ironm for
13:26 ries most importand to add is steps to reproduce...
13:27 KrabatR dose somebody here work with paymentlib_paypal?
13:28 ironm ries: with ts-setup for language-setting and language-switching .. as I posted it already here
13:28 ries I was sleeping at the time you posted :)
13:28 ironm KrabatR: do you use ssl for login/register/payment and PayPal?
13:28 ironm oh sorry .. what time is it now in your town ries ?
13:29 KrabatR ironn: nope... not jet
13:30 ironm KrabatR: are you sure you don't need ssl for paypal?
13:30 ries ironm: it's now 6:45 AM
13:31 ironm quite early ries ;)
13:31 ries I know....
13:32 KrabatR tried it with https and it dosent work either
13:32 noway try beta
13:49 ironm pmk65: do I need a typo3 account to report a bug to http://bugs.typo3.org/main_page.php ?
13:49 pmk65 ironm: Yes, but it's the same as on typo3.org (If you have an account there)
13:50 ironm pmk65: well .. I don't have one
13:50 ironm hi boonkerz ;)
13:50 pmk65 just create one, its free :)
13:51 boonkerz hi
13:51 ironm pmk65: hard and quite long way to get happy with typo3 *ggg*
13:52 pmk65 if you have an account on typo3.org, you can do a lot of things, like rate extensions (which everybody should do..)
14:08 ironm pmk65: would be such issue like missing language_ids in menu links a core or "FE User" category ?
14:08 ironm for typo3 4.4 beta3 ...
14:09 pmk65 core i would say.
14:10 ironm tnx :)
14:13 ironm pmk65: hmm .. there is no "core" category .. some other names like "backend" maybe instead?
14:14 pmk65 There's a "TYPÅO3 Core" category..
14:15 ironm pmk65: are you sure you are "up to date" with the user interface? ;)
14:17 pmk65 locate the "Projects" selectbox in the top right of the page, then select "-TYPO3 Core-"
14:17 pmk65 and press the "Switch" button
14:17 ironm ok .. let me check it please pmk65
14:18 pmk65 then select "View Issues" from the main menu.
14:18 ironm I have the TYPO3 core project .. but there is NO "core.*" inside the category select box ...
14:19 ironm on top .. left side ..
14:20 ironm pmk65: I can use Frontend or default ...
14:41 webonaut hi
14:42 webonaut is there any possibility to remove a SQL field with ext_tables.sql from another extension? I know how to add, but not how to remove :-)
14:51 sorenmalling webonaut: Do you just want to hide it from the backend? It's not a good idea to modify the a extensions source
14:53 ironm pmk65: I have got it .. my first bug issue report :) - http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14607
14:55 ironm pmk65: please let me know if you would suggest to describe such issues in more easy/effective way - tnx in adavnce for your time
16:14 net-mapper Hello, anyone here can help me in a problem with extension creation.
16:15 net-mapper The problem is when i'm defining double as input in table, it takes as input just two numbers as precision, i want no constraint in there, is there any action will I make to do that?
16:32 ironm does someone have a similar problem? - "simulate static documents" doesN'T show ANY <navigation_name> for chinese (utf8) in the address line or menu links
16:32 ironm http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14608
16:35 ironm or just such issue? - Missing language_ids in menu-links (TMENU) for 4.4 beta3
16:35 ironm http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14607
16:39 ndee hey there, I have following ts: http://pastebin.com/bYdW8mvm <-- now what I want is to "explode" and select only the first image from a tt_news, how can I do that?
16:39 webonaut sorenmalling: no I want to be sure that those fields are not available anymore
16:40 sorenmalling Well, then go ahead and edit the source of the extension and remember it, the day you decide to update the extension :) If you just want to hide them from the backend, have a look at TCEFORM.* in page TSconfig
16:43 webonaut sorenmalling: I would like to know if it's possible with an other extension ;-)
16:44 webonaut sorenmalling: i checked the docs and the source and you can not remove fields with ext_tables.sql :-)
16:54 jbaptiste_j I seem to have a Charset problem , The frontend is in UTF-8 and accents are rendered okay, the Backend is in UTF-8 and the accents are okay in the backend, but if I edit database entries in PHPMyAdmin the accents are rendrered wrong in the phpMyadmin interface (é becomes é) any clue what's going on ?
17:00 ndee typoscript... I will never get it.
17:00 ironm it is only a question of your patience and the time ndee ;-)
17:00 ndee ironm: it just doesn't make sense to me :D
17:01 ndee I can't wrap my head around it.
17:01 ironm *lol* ... I am feeling with you .. and like you ndee
17:02 ironm ndee: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14607
17:02 jbaptiste_j well after a bit of time working with typo3 I've been able to get a few things to work but I'm still mostly clueless
17:02 ironm ndee: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14608
17:02 ironm ndee: it is a bit complex and not bugs_free :-/
17:03 ironm ndee: I guess it is a good idea to use the typo3 bugtracker - http://bugs.typo3.org/view_all_bug_page.php
17:06 ironm ndee: if I would know how to solve your issue I would help you ..
17:06 ndee ironm: it's not a bug I'm fighting with, it's the general understanding of typoscript, can't file a bug for that :D
17:08 ironm ndee: that is true *g* ... all books I have read spoke in detail ..too much ... no a kind of overview for better understanding of TS and the structure of typo3 :-/.
17:09 ironm ndee: I just wanted to use a CMS .. but I have to edit some php-code sometimes when needed
17:11 net-mapper Hello, anyone here can help me in a problem with extension creation.
17:11 net-mapper The problem is when i'm defining double as input in table, it takes as input just two numbers as precision, i want no constraint in there, is there any action will I make to do that?
17:40 newuser Hey, I have a quick question. I just created a new page after completing the install and get an error of "No Typoscript Template Found" when trying to show the page I created. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
17:43 net-mapper newuser : in the Backend click on "Template" in the menu on the left
17:43 net-mapper then click on your page
17:48 jbaptiste_j @newuser well you need to create a template I suggest you pick the tutorial "modern template building" it is not up to date but it is quite easy to follow
20:49 jjulian hi. i have a TMENU from a user func. and define 4 submenus. But now if this menu entry in the third 3 submenu has no child menus to display. It shows the the first submenu.
20:49 jjulian how can i disable that?
20:49 jjulian and doesnt show anything?
20:50 ironm hi jjulian .. how many levels of menu do you have?
20:50 jjulian root and 3 sub
20:51 jjulian so as example " A" , "B" , "C"
20:51 jjulian this is my root node and now A has 3 subs
20:51 jjulian so i defined in TS 4 sub menus and always copy from 2<1, 3<2 etc
20:52 jjulian but if submenu 3 (example A->A1->A11) has no submenus then it shows: A->A1->A11->(A, B, C)
20:53 ironm well .. how is you TS code looking ?
20:53 jjulian this depends on entryLevel = 1, on the start if i set that to 2 it changes. to A->A1->A11->(A1, A2, A3)
20:54 ironm jjulian: an example of 3 levels menu - http://paste.phlogi.net/menu3levels/
20:54 jjulian http://nopaste.info/24251675fb.html
20:55 jjulian this is my version
20:56 jjulian any ideas?
20:56 ironm give me a minute please
21:03 ironm probably you should change your TS code and do like: 10.2 < 10.1
21:03 ironm one level above
21:04 ironm to have TMENU in TMENU in TMENU ..
21:08 ironm or more like: 10.2 < .10.1
21:09 ironm @ jjulian
21:10 ironm well .. I don't really know :-/
21:11 jjulian as far as i kill expall
21:11 jjulian its working well
21:32 ironm did you get it working jjulian ?
21:32 ironm hi ries and danielig
21:32 jjulian yeah it was expall = 1
21:33 jjulian i just killed it to expall = 0
21:33 jjulian öand works
21:33 danielig hey ironm
21:33 ironm jjulian: strange .. I have expall = 1 in my menu
21:33 jjulian my menu is totally generated from a user func
21:34 ironm that is true
21:34 jjulian just first layer is genereated from pagetree
21:34 jjulian every submenu is generated from my userfunc
21:34 jjulian no thats totally a lie
21:34 jjulian thats my left menu
21:34 jjulian thats jsut generated from userfunc
21:35 ironm ;-)
21:36 ironm which version of typo3 do you use ries ? .. 4.3.3 or already 4.4 ?
21:36 ironm ries: I hope I didn't ask you before ;)
21:37 ries ironm: 4.3.3 and below, I rarly use beta's
21:38 ironm it looks to make sense ..
21:38 ironm somehow I am not lucky with 4.4 beta3 .. due to: Missing language_ids in menu-links (TMENU) for 4.4 beta3
21:39 ironm http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14607
21:39 ironm ries: did you run https with 4.3.3? .. only http worked as expected
21:40 ries teh site I am currently working on doesn't use https.. and I rarly use https
21:40 ironm even for login / register?
21:41 ries ironm: I don't do much sites in general.... I write software 95% of the times
21:45 ironm ries: php?
21:45 ries ironm: java, php, as3, lot's of DB design work in mysql and postgresql
21:46 ironm wow .. it sounds great ries :)
23:27 ironm gn8

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