| 01:00 |
nhaskins |
I'm trying to create a non admi backend user, but when I login with it I can't see anything in the page tree. |
| 01:00 |
nhaskins |
In the user record, Mounts and Workspaces, DB Mounts, I have the 2 sites I want selected. I don't know what I need to put in File Mounts, I'm not sure if this is related. |
| 01:08 |
nhaskins |
Sorry, I hadn't set permissions under the access module. Works now. |
| 09:34 |
Phlunk3 |
hi, is anyone aware of an extension to DAM which could allow me to automatically create lower size/quality copies of images when they are added to DAM? or is there maybe a hook which I can use for this? |
| 09:53 |
Phlunk3 |
guess not, anyone got an example of scaling an image within extbase? |
| 09:56 |
maholtz|WORK |
@Phlunk3: i do not have, but i would assume you could use cObj->IMAGE for that |
| 09:56 |
maholtz|WORK |
(with fluid helper) |
| 09:56 |
maholtz|WORK |
perhaps link-helper helps with an example |
| 09:58 |
Owner |
Hello friends, dont you know why my tt_news displays double article in a single view? Please help |
| 10:03 |
maholtz|WORK |
@Owner: perhaps check your template - perhaps you doubled the markers? |
| 10:04 |
Owner |
maholtz|WORK, I have own template, where is just single marks |
| 10:05 |
maholtz|WORK |
so, is the whole record doubled or each field? |
| 10:14 |
Owner |
maholtz|WORK, also the LIST view is doubled... shit |
| 10:24 |
Phlunk3 |
maholtz, tried that but theres no cobj in the viewhelper at least. Im guessing its not something I should be using? anyone can verify proper way of handling image transformations within a viewhelper for extbase? |
| 10:42 |
unmatrix |
hm... there is a new be-notification since typo3 4.3 - anyone know some keywords to search how to use it ? |
| 10:42 |
unmatrix |
(display errors and warnings) |
| 10:42 |
PiMB |
got a great blog item about flash messages here. |
| 10:42 |
PiMB |
http://sebastiaandejonge.com/articles/2010/april/extension-development-flash-messages.html |
| 10:42 |
PiMB |
Props to Prot0 |
| 10:42 |
Prot0 |
=) |
| 10:42 |
Prot0 |
really easy to use |
| 10:43 |
unmatrix |
ah - thank you very much :) |
| 10:44 |
PiMB |
np mate |
| 10:51 |
sorenmalling |
There have been some TYPO3 Treasure Trove posts on buzz.typo3.org lately, and FlashMessages was covered yesterday :) http://buzz.typo3.org/teams/core/article/43-treasure-trove-flash-messages/ |
| 10:51 |
sorenmalling |
The other articles got some great knowledge aswell |
| 10:52 |
unmatrix |
:) |
| 10:53 |
sorenmalling |
I've never heard of "the system registry" before the article :) |
| 11:32 |
unmatrix |
o.O -rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 2.7G Jun 9 11:48 deprecation_5b18d08128.log |
| 11:32 |
PiMB |
:) |
| 11:32 |
PiMB |
you can disable those in the install tool |
| 11:33 |
PiMB |
but if it's development you'd better take a look at what the hell is deprecated and fix that :) |
| 11:34 |
unmatrix |
yeah - i will disable it right now ;) |
| 11:34 |
PiMB |
but don't mask the problem mate. |
| 11:34 |
PiMB |
try to figure out |
| 11:34 |
PiMB |
deprecation means absence in the next version |
| 11:37 |
PiMB |
haha |
| 11:37 |
PiMB |
good luck with that. |
| 11:37 |
PiMB |
might want to tail it bit for bit? |
| 11:37 |
PiMB |
or download and try notepad ++ |
| 11:37 |
PiMB |
I would never do that on a server ;) |
| 11:38 |
unmatrix |
me, too |
| 11:39 |
unmatrix |
the reason why i realize the size is, that svn aren't able to copy it on my local filesystem (no space left) |
| 11:39 |
rawtaz |
where can i find documentation on the system requirements for typo3, such as what databases it supports and what php version it requires etc? |
| 11:40 |
unmatrix |
http://typo3.org/download/packages/ |
| 11:40 |
rawtaz |
ah, thank |
| 11:40 |
rawtaz |
s |
| 11:48 |
unmatrix |
141407 lines with "Using gpvar in TypoScript getText is deprecated since TYPO3 4.3 - Use gp instead of gpvar" ;) |
| 11:48 |
rawtaz |
oh my |
| 11:48 |
rawtaz |
does typo3 not support postgresql? |
| 11:49 |
rawtaz |
i mean for everything, from the core/base up to custom extensions |
| 11:50 |
PiMB |
it's probably possible |
| 11:50 |
PiMB |
TYPO3 uses a dbal layer for it's database handling. |
| 11:50 |
rawtaz |
is it a custom one or something standard in php? |
| 11:50 |
PiMB |
for custom extensions there is a possibility that the extension is programmed around the dbal layer. |
| 11:50 |
PiMB |
then it's not supported, but that's up to the programmer. |
| 11:51 |
PiMB |
not sure about the version of dbal |
| 11:53 |
rawtaz |
yeah i presume that extensions are programmed around the DBAL since they are typo3 extensions? :) or is that not overly common, and ppl access the database on their own for some reason? |
| 11:55 |
PiMB |
i've seen occasion in where people just do mysql_query to go about there business, might not always do what you expect. |
| 11:57 |
Olf |
greetings |
| 11:57 |
Olf |
anyone agrees that new look of backend needs new set of icons, does anyone know is there a work started with the icons? |
| 11:58 |
Olf |
http://ScrnSht.com/bvccei made a little example of mine |
| 11:59 |
pascalj |
Well, Jens Hoffmann might be the right address for that :-) He's the UX guy |
| 12:00 |
Olf |
i'll check it out |
| 12:01 |
pascalj |
But I honestly don't know if someone is working on this right now |
| 12:01 |
rawtaz |
pascalj: ok.. but apart fromthe extensions then, you dont know for sure whether postgres is supported by whatever database layer typo3 uses? |
| 12:01 |
pascalj |
rayou ment PiMB ;-) |
| 12:02 |
pascalj |
arghs... |
| 12:02 |
rawtaz |
hah |
| 12:02 |
rawtaz |
yeah :P |
| 12:02 |
rawtaz |
PiMB: |
| 12:02 |
pascalj |
btw, guys. tx_enetcache is awesome. |
| 12:03 |
rawtaz |
i found http://xavier.perseguers.ch/en/tutorials/typo3/articles/postgresql-database/configuring-typo3.html which seem to indicate that in 4.4 its native, but in 4.3 you need to make some manual changes. but as i understand it, there is not need to patch code, right? so in essence, postgres support is there in 4.3, you just have to manually trigger it? |
| 12:04 |
binom23 |
Hello |
| 12:04 |
binom23 |
I've seen some extensions using ext_autoload.php for autoloading. Is there a tutorial? |
| 12:05 |
BingvanMoorsel |
Hallo world! |
| 12:06 |
binom23 |
I mean not a tutorial for autoloading. |
| 12:06 |
BingvanMoorsel |
i wonder if some one could help me with the following: I'm trying to edit an extention called Kiwi_slider |
| 12:06 |
BingvanMoorsel |
in the extention some data is insert in the page with: $GLOBALS['TSFE']->additionalHeaderData[$this->extKey] = $js; |
| 12:07 |
BingvanMoorsel |
and i would like to insert it right before the </body> tag |
| 12:07 |
BingvanMoorsel |
but i cant upgrade to 4.3 |
| 12:07 |
BingvanMoorsel |
4.2.12 is what i have |
| 12:07 |
binom23 |
How can I say typo3 to load my ext_autolad.php? |
| 12:07 |
BingvanMoorsel |
$GLOBALS['TSFE']->content = preg_replace('</body>', $js.'</body>', $GLOBALS['TSFE']->content); does not work |
| 12:13 |
rawtaz |
hm. considering that typo3 is considered to be a very good system, and that its free as well, does it have any competitors that are considered as good or better? |
| 12:14 |
rawtaz |
ive looked at quite a lot of CMS/similar systems but havent come across anything obviously better |
| 12:14 |
chris--- |
hi |
| 12:15 |
BingvanMoorsel |
have you tried joomla? |
| 12:15 |
rawtaz |
BingvanMoorsel: no i havent, but ive looked at it and dont like its code. sloppy php code imo.. but anyway i have a friend whos been using both joomla and drupal a lot, and they seem to be slightly different from typo3, not as dynamic/powerful |
| 12:16 |
BingvanMoorsel |
i like typo3 rawtaz |
| 12:17 |
rawtaz |
yeah :) |
| 12:17 |
rawtaz |
me too |
| 12:17 |
rawtaz |
im just wondering if it has any real competitors (that are free) |
| 12:17 |
rawtaz |
im sure it has competitors that are payware |
| 12:18 |
BingvanMoorsel |
depends on what you want to do with your website |
| 12:18 |
BingvanMoorsel |
wordpress = real good blog shit :) |
| 12:18 |
chris--- |
i'm using TV to create a flexible content which basically works fine. the only problem i have is mapping the headline. i've added a header field and mapped it, but i still get the original typo3 headline. is there a way to map this one? |
| 12:19 |
rawtaz |
BingvanMoorsel: yeah.. wordpess for blogging and easy sites, joomla and drupal for slightly more compex sites, but they dont match up to typo3's extensibility or dynamic nature afaik |
| 12:20 |
Krabatr |
Hy, dose somebody know, why the fe_user marker PERSON_ADDRESS_DISPLAY dosent show the hole adress? it cuts it always in the last word whitch is the town name. Help? |
| 12:21 |
rawtaz |
ries: would you say that using typo3 with postgresql is supported and safe with latest 4.3 and up, except for the occasional extension that doesnt use the DBAL? i am asking because a client want to use typo3, but we really dont want to use mysql for it |
| 12:22 |
BingvanMoorsel |
Some of you experianced extention builders :P? |
| 12:22 |
Prot0 |
:-) |
| 12:23 |
rawtaz |
hm, how "stable" would the 4.4 beta be? it seems that it mentions support for postgresql natively |
| 12:23 |
Prot0 |
rawtaz: its BETA |
| 12:23 |
Prot0 |
:) |
| 12:23 |
rawtaz |
stupid question of course ;P i know it shouldnt be used in production, but still.. :) |
| 12:23 |
rawtaz |
hehe |
| 12:23 |
rawtaz |
"is the beta stable?" |
| 12:23 |
Prot0 |
when does your project need to be finished? ;-) |
| 12:23 |
Prot0 |
beta is not stable |
| 12:24 |
rawtaz |
well we need to start it in a few weeks |
| 12:24 |
Prot0 |
stable is stable ;-) |
| 12:24 |
Prot0 |
k |
| 12:24 |
rawtaz |
do you have any idea when 4.4 will leave beta stage? |
| 12:24 |
Prot0 |
then you should just wiat a little |
| 12:24 |
lolli_ |
http://forge.typo3.org/wiki/typo3v4-core/Fourfour |
| 12:24 |
Prot0 |
final release is planned june 22 ;-) |
| 12:25 |
Prot0 |
RC1 should be out this week afaik |
| 12:25 |
lolli_ |
rc1 will be released in a few days, so we're pretty much in time |
| 12:25 |
rawtaz |
in any case, if postgres works on 4.3 and the various problem reports on the net (for example http://www.mail-archive.com/(obscured mail address)/msg03438.html) is only isolated work-aroundable issues, then maybe its fine after all :) |
| 12:25 |
rawtaz |
Prot0: oh cool. that sounds good |
| 12:25 |
BingvanMoorsel |
4.4 any coowl new features? |
| 12:26 |
lolli_ |
BingvanMoorsel, yes, tons of ... read the announcements ;) |
| 12:26 |
BingvanMoorsel |
link ? |
| 12:27 |
Prot0 |
http://news.typo3.org/news/development/ |
| 12:28 |
rawtaz |
Prot0: considering that postgres is available as a driver choice in the 1-2-3 in 4.4, does that mean that postgres is now officially supported in 4.4? |
| 12:28 |
rawtaz |
someone in here must know :) |
| 12:29 |
Prot0 |
it should be possible to use postgres |
| 12:30 |
Prot0 |
though not all extension builders use the DBAL# |
| 12:30 |
Prot0 |
most popular stuff should be supported though |
| 12:30 |
rawtaz |
yes. but that doesnt say whether its officially supported (excluding custom extensions ppl have written, but including core and base typo3 stuff), or if its just "it can be done, but not supported by us" |
| 12:32 |
rawtaz |
do you know whether its mostly uncommon extensions that dont use the DBAL, or if its *likely* that one will run into an extension that doesnt? |
| 12:34 |
lolli_ |
binom23, if an ext_autoload.php file exists, typo3 will find it automatically |
| 12:35 |
lolli_ |
so, just add your files and classnames (both in lowercase!) to that file (take a look at t3lib/core_autoload.php) |
| 12:36 |
lolli_ |
next, remove you require_once() calls, and you'll see if it works immediatly |
| 12:37 |
Prot0 |
rawtaz: did you read this? |
| 12:37 |
Prot0 |
http://typo3.org/about/system-requirements/ |
| 12:38 |
rawtaz |
yeah :) |
| 12:38 |
rawtaz |
though at the same time the download page only mentions mysql |
| 12:38 |
rawtaz |
oh well |
| 12:38 |
rawtaz |
i guess hte main issue/problems will be with extensions. |
| 12:38 |
lolli_ |
rawtaz, a) all *good* extensions use the typo3 db-api, and with this, they automatically support dbal. so, probably you don't want to use extensions that don't use the typo3 db api anyway (because they are probably not good ;) |
| 12:39 |
Prot0 |
mysql is recommended |
| 12:39 |
Prot0 |
yes |
| 12:39 |
Prot0 |
as long as your not running on a windows server :-) |
| 12:39 |
Prot0 |
ask PiMB about that one ;-) |
| 12:40 |
lolli_ |
b) to your postgres thing: the core should fully run with postgres. if you find errors, it's a bug that should be fixed |
| 12:40 |
Prot0 |
lolli_ is right, however some extension developers don't use globally supported SQL syntax :-) |
| 12:42 |
ironm |
lolli_: using dbal? (for postgres) |
| 12:42 |
lolli_ |
the difference between 4.3 and 4.4 regarding dbal is: tons of bugfixes for dbal, and the dbal api can now be chosen and activated during installation process already |
| 12:43 |
ironm |
lolli_: really good news .. and a good reason to use 4.4 |
| 12:45 |
lolli_ |
ironm, no. i currently have no use-case. i'd recommed to use mysql whenever possible, and only switch to other dbms (like oracle or dbal), if you *must*. and even then i'd recommend to only connect a subset of db-table to the other database (eg. a whole extension that gets it data from some other db-server / system) |
| 12:46 |
rawtaz |
lolli_: thank you for the summary |
| 12:46 |
rawtaz |
i agree, if an extension isnt written so that it uses typo3's db layer then its not written well |
| 12:47 |
ironm |
Prot0: it looks like I have found the reason for missing language_id in menu links for typo3 4.4 beta3 ...s. http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14607 ... I installed the last typo3 4.4 svn-trunk ... and had to move the part of CONSTANTS code from the CONSTANTS area to the SETUP area of the root template .. s http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/defaultlang/ |
| 12:47 |
rawtaz |
why is mysql so recommended? =) |
| 12:48 |
ironm |
I see lolli_ .. I would prefer in the future however to use postgres OR mariaDB ... |
| 12:48 |
Prot0 |
good to know :) |
| 12:48 |
ironm |
Prot0: I didn't know that I HAVE to place the default language definition to the SETUP part of the root template! |
| 12:49 |
ironm |
to -> in ... |
| 12:50 |
ironm |
what differences are between the CONSTANTS and the SETUP part of the root template? |
| 12:50 |
lolli_ |
rawtaz, mysql is the 'native' implementation. dbal does a lot of magic to do the cross-db stuff. thus, a good configured mysql will probably give more performance |
| 12:50 |
ironm |
sometimes it works when I place some settings in CONSTANTS .. sometimes when I put them in SETUP |
| 12:50 |
Prot0 |
ironm: constants are just global settings |
| 12:51 |
Prot0 |
you can set them and use them in later and in more places |
| 12:51 |
Prot0 |
the code inside setup is actually parsed |
| 12:51 |
ironm |
Prot0: why don't they work for default_language definition? .. like in http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/defaultlang/ |
| 12:51 |
Prot0 |
or passed on to for example an extension |
| 12:52 |
ironm |
I see .. I try to follow you Prot0 |
| 12:52 |
lolli_ |
ironm, if you're curious, you could dig into the issue and fix it in 4.4 ... would be appreciated! |
| 12:52 |
rawtaz |
lolli_: i see. |
| 12:52 |
ironm |
lolli_: I reported it already .. http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14607 |
| 12:53 |
ironm |
lolli_: I will right a bit more inside this ticket ... |
| 12:53 |
ironm |
write .. |
| 12:53 |
rawtaz |
lolli_: if one were to encounter an extension that doesnt use the dbal, it wouldnt be too hard to rewrite it to dbal, isnt that right? i mean, i suppose its a matter of for example changing a lot of mysql_*() to the dbal equivalents, and that its not so much redesign as plain converting code |
| 12:53 |
Prot0 |
ironm: http://lists.typo3.org/pipermail/typo3-english/2005-October/015042.html |
| 12:54 |
Prot0 |
rawtaz: yes :-) but it would make it harder to update an extension |
| 12:54 |
Prot0 |
proper extensions use DBAL though :-) |
| 12:56 |
rawtaz |
Prot0: i was thinking that if i rewrote it id try to have the extension patched upstreams as well |
| 12:56 |
rawtaz |
maybe im too hopeful :P |
| 12:56 |
Prot0 |
yes, also possible :-) |
| 12:58 |
ironm |
Prot0: thank you very much! :-) .. it looks like I should move most of http://paste.phlogi.net/constants/ to the SETUP part pof the root template ! |
| 12:58 |
ironm |
s/pof/of/ |
| 12:58 |
Prot0 |
yes |
| 12:59 |
ironm |
*v* |
| 12:59 |
Prot0 |
:-) |
| 12:59 |
lolli_ |
rawtaz, yes. every extension developer should appreciate good patches you send to them which improve the extension ;) |
| 12:59 |
rawtaz |
mm :) |
| 13:00 |
ironm |
Prot0: if you use MySQL you could use aslo mariaDB .. I guess there is nearly NO difference |
| 13:01 |
Recnelis |
Hey guys, I've started getting a error on my webhost since my hosting provider decided to block the php function exec() |
| 13:01 |
Recnelis |
Error -> Core: Error handler (FE): PHP Warning: exec() has been disabled for security reasons in XXXX/httpdocs/t3lib/class.t3lib_div.php line 439 |
| 13:01 |
lolli_ |
ok guys. have to leave now. cu later |
| 13:01 |
Prot0 |
well |
| 13:01 |
Prot0 |
pretty clear :) |
| 13:01 |
Prot0 |
me too |
| 13:01 |
rawtaz |
lolli_: thanks, bye! |
| 13:01 |
Prot0 |
out for lunch |
| 13:01 |
Recnelis |
Correct me if i'm wrong, but there's no real way to change it to using something else is there? |
| 13:01 |
Prot0 |
be back soon :-) |
| 13:02 |
Recnelis |
As I can see it seems to be a quite basic Typo3 core function when editing pictures? |
| 13:02 |
rawtaz |
Prot0: ttyl :j |
| 13:02 |
Prot0 |
Recnelis: it tries to use imagemagick im guessing |
| 13:02 |
Prot0 |
bbl |
| 13:02 |
Prot0 |
! |
| 13:03 |
Recnelis |
Can I switch to something else? |
| 13:03 |
lolli_ |
last answer ;) Recnelis, yes. a) set the installToll param "dontUseExec" (or something like that), and forget about all imagemagick operations ... or b) change your hoster ... |
| 13:03 |
rawtaz |
Recnelis: i think you either need to enable exec() or do some code modification |
| 13:03 |
rawtaz |
yeah or change host :) |
| 13:04 |
Recnelis |
Installtool has a param for nothing using exec? Hmm sec checking :) |
| 13:06 |
Recnelis |
Are you sure it's called "dontUseExec" ? :s |
| 13:08 |
ironm |
Prot0: are there some restrictions when using INCLUDE statements in the SETUP-part of the template? .. like: <INCLUDE_TYPOscript: source="FILE: fileadmin/staticTS/language_defaults.txt"> |
| 13:27 |
Prot0 |
ironm: what do you mean with restrictions? :-) |
| 13:28 |
ironm |
I had the feeling sometimes the content of such included file didn't work as expected .. æ Prot0 |
| 13:29 |
Prot0 |
i think the path might be restricted to fileadmin and upload by default |
| 13:29 |
ironm |
depends on where I have included such files .. in CONSTANTS or SETUP e.g. |
| 13:29 |
Prot0 |
for as far as file paths |
| 13:29 |
ironm |
the path was still the same .. |
| 13:30 |
Prot0 |
constants should be included in constants, setup in setup :) |
| 13:30 |
Prot0 |
but both support including |
| 13:30 |
Prot0 |
remember to clear the configuration cache though |
| 13:30 |
Prot0 |
when you change something |
| 13:30 |
Prot0 |
(unless you are using config.no_cache =1 |
| 13:31 |
Prot0 |
since the files are cached |
| 13:31 |
ironm |
yes .. I use currently "config.no_cache = 1" .. |
| 13:32 |
Prot0 |
:) |
| 13:32 |
ironm |
clear the typo3 backend cash ... and mostly restart apache deleting typo3conf/temp_* |
| 13:34 |
Recnelis |
Is it possible to just forget about imagemagick and use GD lib for all the image resizing and such instead? |
| 13:35 |
ironm |
Prot0: it looks like I will use typo3 4.4 .. 4.3.3 didn't work correctly with https:// baseURL .. 4.4 does :) |
| 13:39 |
rawtaz |
question: if you were to give someone a job to create a website in typo3, what would you tell them to do specifically, such as "user the DBAL if you communicate with the database", "use OO php", etc? |
| 13:40 |
ironm |
rawtaz: I think it is better not to use DBAL .. and just use only MySQL at the moment |
| 13:41 |
rawtaz |
ironm: i thought we concluded earlier that extensions (and other code of course) that doesnt use the DBAL are not well written? :) |
| 13:41 |
ironm |
well .. DBAL is an additionla layer .. so far ... |
| 13:42 |
ironm |
I have to check it if I've installed dbal ... |
| 13:43 |
rawtaz |
"As of TYPO3 4.3, DBAL system extension is now included as svn:externals into TYPO3 core" - i cannot fully comprehend what that means, but doesnt it say that the DBAL is now in core and available by default? |
| 13:43 |
rawtaz |
its from http://xavier.perseguers.ch/tutoriels/typo3/articles/postgresql-database/configuring-typo3.html |
| 13:44 |
ironm |
rawtaz: I would prefer to user postgres instead of mysql .. |
| 13:44 |
rawtaz |
yeah me too |
| 13:44 |
ironm |
rawtaz: I didn't installed dbal ... |
| 13:46 |
rawtaz |
but do you still mean that the DBAL should *not* be used? i dont understand why you said that :) |
| 13:46 |
ironm |
rawtaz: my suggestion however would be to use mysql without dbal ( highetst priority to develop your website / web-application) |
| 13:46 |
rawtaz |
hmm. but that would make the entire thing mysql-specific |
| 13:46 |
ironm |
rawtaz: in the second step you can move to dbal / postgress .. your TS code should work |
| 13:47 |
rawtaz |
wouldnt that require a lot of rewriting? |
| 13:47 |
ironm |
rawtaz: NO .. it will be NOT MySQL specific ... |
| 13:47 |
rawtaz |
when you say to write for mysql only, dont you mean use mysql_*() functions instead of the dbal? |
| 13:47 |
ironm |
not at all rawtaz |
| 13:47 |
rawtaz |
oh :) |
| 13:47 |
rawtaz |
theres something i dont know about |
| 13:48 |
ironm |
are you developer of extensions rawtaz ? |
| 13:48 |
rawtaz |
no, i am a developer in general but havent worked with typo3. but i will very soon, but for some weird reason i currently hae to decide on which database to go with, and if it is possible to go with postgres we would prefer that |
| 13:49 |
rawtaz |
so no, i dont know what options there are for writing database-aware code |
| 13:49 |
rawtaz |
in typo3 |
| 13:49 |
rawtaz |
what it looks like etc |
| 13:49 |
ironm |
well .. from my egoistic point of view I would say you should use Postges / dbal ;) |
| 13:50 |
ironm |
rawtaz: I am not sure what will happen with MySQL .. (Oracle owned code now ..) |
| 13:50 |
rawtaz |
but when you say not to use dbal, and that this doesnt mean to ue mysql_*(), then what do you use instead, if none of those two? |
| 13:51 |
rawtaz |
yeah, thats one of the reason i dont fancy it too much. i dont like oracle. but in any case i consider postgres to be much more of a real db than mysql. and we use it everywhere else |
| 13:51 |
Prot0 |
back |
| 13:51 |
ironm |
You can use MySQL with OR wihtout dbal I guess .. /dbal is only additional lasyer for compatibility issues .. should works with all supported databases |
| 13:52 |
ironm |
layer ... |
| 13:52 |
rawtaz |
yeah. but if i dont use dbal, then what does the code look like? since you say that it doesnt look like mysql_*() |
| 13:52 |
Prot0 |
wihtout dbal your syntax will be db specific |
| 13:53 |
Prot0 |
ex. mysql_query() |
| 13:53 |
rawtaz |
yeah.. and turning that into using DBAL later on isnt a small change as i take it |
| 13:54 |
rawtaz |
so the summary is still that one should use the DBAL, i suppose. even though ironm said otherwise :P |
| 13:54 |
Prot0 |
$GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->sql_query() |
| 13:54 |
Prot0 |
DBAL has some nice wrapper functions though |
| 13:55 |
rawtaz |
another question: is typo3 utf-8-compatible throughout the system? |
| 13:55 |
Prot0 |
that will help you from reinventing the wheel |
| 13:55 |
Prot0 |
yes |
| 13:55 |
ironm |
rawtaz: NO .. if you a custommer and need quickly a working web-site you should take mysql .. but if you are programmer you should use dbal with postgres |
| 13:55 |
rawtaz |
so if i post a string from a form, and the client sends it using utf8, and typo3 need to somehow process it, it will do so in a utf8-safe manner? |
| 13:56 |
rawtaz |
ironm: yeah ok. then its settled, because im a programmer :) |
| 13:56 |
ironm |
+are |
| 13:56 |
rawtaz |
at least i think i am :D |
| 13:58 |
rawtaz |
i realize that the php code i write myself is up to me, im thinking mostly about when typo3 itself does things like strlen() and so on. in order for it to work with unicode it needs to use mb_strlen() instead, or something equivalent |
| 13:58 |
rawtaz |
and since mbstring isnt mentioned at http://typo3.org/about/system-requirements/ it makes me unsure :< |
| 13:59 |
rawtaz |
i guess it could use overloading though |
| 14:00 |
rawtaz |
ah, heres something in the wiki :) |
| 14:00 |
maholtz|WORK |
@rawtaz: afaik there are three different solutions for that (somewhere in the install tool) |
| 14:00 |
maholtz|WORK |
mbstring is afaik the best one |
| 14:00 |
Prot0 |
:) |
| 14:00 |
ironm |
rawtaz: http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/debian_db/ |
| 14:01 |
ironm |
rawtaz: you can specify another $dbtype |
| 14:01 |
rawtaz |
ironm: indeed |
| 14:02 |
rawtaz |
regarding utf8, does anyone know if typo3 uses the overloading of mbstring, or if it internally just uses t3lib_cs for all related string handling? the latter seems the most likely since it is what is mentioned for extensions at http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/UTF-8_support |
| 14:03 |
unmatrix |
hm... is there a chance to override a link-href in a tmenu? |
| 14:04 |
unmatrix |
(linkWrap without | didn't work :/) |
| 14:04 |
maholtz|WORK |
@unmatrix: override the link itself |
| 14:05 |
unmatrix |
how ? |
| 14:05 |
unmatrix |
which key is the link-href? |
| 14:05 |
maholtz|WORK |
thecorrectstdWrap.cObject = TEXT |
| 14:05 |
maholtz|WORK |
thecorrectstdWrap.cObject.typolink.data = uid |
| 14:06 |
maholtz|WORK |
ups, typolink.parameter.data = uid |
| 14:08 |
unmatrix |
works, thank you very much :) |
| 14:08 |
maholtz|WORK |
:) |
| 14:09 |
maholtz|WORK |
perhaps you should think about different pagetypes like external-url or shortcuts |
| 14:10 |
unmatrix |
doesn't work currectly (in pages_language_overlay the page is a external-url, but in pages just a default-page) |
| 14:11 |
peterN |
TYPO3 4-4--dev: anyone ever seen a constant load indicator in firebug for a bunch of .css and .js files? |
| 14:11 |
ironm |
Prot0 / maholtz|WORK : what is the difference between [end] and [global] after [globalVar = ...] ... ? |
| 14:11 |
peterN |
@ironm: afaik: none |
| 14:12 |
ironm |
tnx peterN :) |
| 14:12 |
chris--- |
is there a way to hide the header of FCEs? |
| 14:13 |
chris--- |
got it the second i asked ;) (tt_content.templavoila_pi1.10 =< ) |
| 14:14 |
Prot0 |
ironm: please read the TSref :-) |
| 14:14 |
Prot0 |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.3.1/view/1/4/ |
| 14:14 |
Prot0 |
will explain all |
| 14:15 |
ironm |
merci Prot0 :)) |
| 14:15 |
Prot0 |
TSref will answer most of your typoscript questions |
| 14:15 |
ironm |
I am reading already ;) @ Prot0 |
| 14:15 |
PiMB |
ohw, oldschool rtfm ;) |
| 14:16 |
ironm |
*G* @ PiMB |
| 14:16 |
peterN |
@chris: what does header mean? The headline can be set to layout disabled, you can map whatever you want on your FCE/HTML-Template. |
| 14:17 |
chris--- |
peterN: i was talking about the main header of any CE |
| 14:17 |
peterN |
@ironm: you might want to read http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_ts/4.2.0/view/1/2/#id4124614 as well ;) |
| 14:17 |
chris--- |
flexible content element that is |
| 14:18 |
peterN |
any CE!=FCE |
| 14:18 |
ironm |
*v* @ peterN .. I will .. promissed! ;) |
| 14:18 |
chris--- |
but it works now anyway, so i'm fine |
| 14:19 |
peterN |
header_layout=hidden, and thats it ... |
| 14:25 |
ries |
rawtaz: I would so go for it if you and your client are willing to iron out some issues |
| 14:26 |
rawtaz |
ries: as long as they can be pretty easily fixed :) |
| 14:26 |
rawtaz |
but i guess that when they arise we can blame typo3 so we dont get bad credit for it ;D |
| 14:26 |
ries |
usually it's just sql that's a tad difference |
| 14:26 |
rawtaz |
and then it would be fine |
| 14:27 |
rawtaz |
i might even be able to work some of them out myself |
| 14:27 |
rawtaz |
to easy reporting |
| 14:27 |
rawtaz |
ease* |
| 14:34 |
ironm |
peterN: it was helpful ... thanks a lot :) |
| 14:37 |
chris--- |
peterN that's why i corrected myself |
| 14:37 |
chris--- |
:) |
| 14:41 |
rawtaz |
ries: but the issues that will appear are exceptions rather than the norm, when going postgres? |
| 14:42 |
ries |
rawtaz: as soon as it works, then it will be stable, let's put it like that... |
| 14:42 |
ries |
Unfortunatly lot's of people don't understand the power of a real RDBM, that's why mysql is so popular |
| 14:42 |
rawtaz |
well put :) |
| 14:44 |
ries |
rawtaz: just make sure that if your client want's to do that, you can allow for extra time for changes... also make sure you have a permanent in-sync development environment to try out new features if your clients requests so. |
| 14:45 |
rawtaz |
how easy is it to migrate changes from the development environment to the production one then? |
| 14:49 |
ries |
rawtaz: I ususally use SVN for it, and if it's backwards compatible with mysql I reported to the developer of the extension. However, I didn't report back for a long time anymore. responce of developers to make it compatible is often not replied or replied with 'sorry, no time' |
| 14:50 |
ries |
so.. SVN is teh way to go... then you can use SVN on your production server to get the latest update again |
| 14:50 |
rawtaz |
ok |
| 14:55 |
soee |
is there any way to get into typoscript current unix time value ? |
| 14:55 |
Tobias_B |
hi, if there are some people who understand german, can you please check out this post :http://www.typo3forum.net/forum/powermail/45862-internal-server-error-javascript.html |
| 14:56 |
Tobias_B |
thanks.. my english is not so good to explain everything in english |
| 14:58 |
newbie |
who know how can to know by php in the extension the current domain ? |
| 14:59 |
PiMB |
Tobias_B, usually when I am presented with a 500 error I take a look at my htaccess files. |
| 14:59 |
PiMB |
are those good? |
| 14:59 |
PiMB |
and are you using IRRE? |
| 14:59 |
PiMB |
could try it without that |
| 15:00 |
Tobias_B |
how could i disable it? |
| 15:03 |
Tobias_B |
IRRE? and i got 15htaccess file in my typo3 folder, but i didn't chance them. |
| 16:11 |
ndee |
hi there, I have a tt_news with following code in the bodytext (as saved in the DB): <h1>headline</h1><div class="newsimg"><img src="foto.jpg" title="foobar" /><span>foobar</span>some text. Now, in the frontend, it generates following code: <h1>headline</h1><div class="newsimg"><p><img src="foto.jpg" title="foobar" /><span>foobar</span></p></div>some text. How can I turn that off? |
| 16:12 |
ndee |
I don't want the <p> tags around the <img><span> part. |
| 16:13 |
proserion |
take it out then |
| 16:21 |
ndee |
proserion: it's not visible in the RTE, it just gets added in the FE. |
| 16:21 |
ndee |
it's also not visible in the DB. |
| 17:17 |
newbie |
hi |
| 17:17 |
newbie |
wno know |
| 17:18 |
newbie |
how can to know |
| 17:18 |
newbie |
curent domain |
| 17:18 |
newbie |
by php |
| 17:18 |
newbie |
in extension |
| 17:18 |
Neo2 |
How can I use a field from a flexform to be shown in the BE/List for a custom extension. By default the uid is shown but I would like to have the title from the content of the flexform to be displayed. |
| 17:21 |
foertel |
n'evening |
| 17:22 |
foertel |
hey lolli_ still @work? |
| 18:05 |
KrabatR |
Hey together... how do i make a reqest in TS Setup vor fe_user groups? if somebody is in usergroup 1 he sould get the ts_setup1.txt (with i made) and if he is in usergroup 2 he should get ts_setup2.txt.... in ever programming lang. i would do something like if(usergroup=1).... else....! is that somehow posible in ts setup? |
| 18:09 |
KrabatR |
nobody an idear? |
| 18:09 |
maholtz|WORK |
@KrabatR: it could be possible with condition |
| 18:13 |
KrabatR |
maholtz|WORK: thx^^ just solved it^^ forgot the i dont have usergroup 1 and 2 but 4 and 5.... how darm stupid^^ but thx alot |
| 18:28 |
maholtz|WORK |
:) |
| 18:28 |
maholtz|WORK |
thats the reason why typoscript is so difficult ;) |
| 18:30 |
KrabatR |
maholtz|WORK: yea! but somtimes it surprises you with its possibilitys :-) |
| 18:32 |
soee |
any idea how can i punt date:U inside select query in where condition ? |
| 18:33 |
maholtz|WORK |
use andWhere has stdWrap |
| 18:35 |
soee |
mm i think its working: andWhere.stdWrap.dataWrap= datebegin < {date:U} |
| 18:37 |
soee |
if im using: stdWrap.if.isMoreThan.numRows |
| 18:37 |
soee |
is there any else syntax for it ? |
| 18:40 |
maholtz|WORK |
you can use CASE object or yous two statements with same if, but the second one has if.negate = 1 |
| 18:40 |
maholtz|WORK |
have to leave now |
| 18:40 |
maholtz|WORK |
bye |
| 18:40 |
soee |
thnx |
| 18:40 |
soee |
cu |
| 19:56 |
t3developer |
Man... I can't wait for TYPO3 5 |
| 19:56 |
t3developer |
I can't wait for TYPO3 5 |
| 19:57 |
krabatR |
is it posible to ask in TypoScript if a gobal var exist? i want to know if a user is alrady loged in or is he just a unknown visitor... because than should be included a different setupfile than otherwise... the var i want to check out is [usergroup] |
| 19:57 |
ironm |
Hi guys :) - can I close myself my own bug-issue? ... like http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14607 |
| 20:00 |
ironm |
hi krabatR :) .. I don't know the syntax but under the following link you should find what you are looking for: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.3.1/view/1/4/ |
| 20:02 |
ironm |
just looking for conditions ... this link is probably also a good recommendation: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_ts/4.2.0/view/1/2/#id4124614 |
| 20:04 |
krabatR |
ironm: as always: Thank you very mutsh^^ |
| 20:05 |
ironm |
;) @ krabatR |
| 20:09 |
pascalj |
hrm... could it be that the @typo3.org email addresses are down? |
| 20:11 |
pascalj |
aha! http://twitter.com/t3rob/status/15788387623 |
| 20:13 |
ironm |
pascalj: it looks like: |
| 20:13 |
ironm |
nslookup -type=mx typo3.org | awk '/mail/ {print $6}' | sed 's/\.$//' | xargs -iX telnet X 25 |
| 20:13 |
ironm |
Trying 88.198.205.128... |
| 20:17 |
pascalj |
jepp. my mailserver says the same - I hope it's temporary :-) |
| 20:29 |
chris---_ |
hi |
| 20:29 |
chris--- |
hi again :) |
| 20:30 |
chris--- |
i'm trying to map a link inside of a FCE. the problem is that it renders something like: <a href="<a href="home.html">Home</a>" class="arrow">Link</a> |
| 20:31 |
chris--- |
i've mapped a plain text field on a:inner and a attribute on the href |
| 20:31 |
chris--- |
i'm just wonderin why he inputs the complete link with <a> tags |
| 20:32 |
chris--- |
and not just the paramter |
| 20:32 |
chris--- |
parameter |
| 20:37 |
Sebastian |
hello, someone can give me a hint where to search when an extension isnt showing up in sourcecode of the page? |
| 20:37 |
Sebastian |
I created a extension with the kickstarter then installed the extension. |
| 20:38 |
Sebastian |
After that created a site with the plugin in it. I created a flexform and wondered why it doesnt show up. so I went into the frontend and had to see that the dummytext isnt shown either |
| 20:38 |
Sebastian |
there arent even the tags in the sourcecode. |
| 20:38 |
Sebastian |
so someone knows what went wrong? Till now every extension I created with the kickstarter worked... |
| 20:42 |
Sebastian |
nevermind... it was the well known typo cache... this cache seems to be my foe... :) |
| 21:22 |
Rafau_ |
hi |
| 21:22 |
Rafau_ |
anybody can help me? |
| 21:23 |
Rafau_ |
i have an error on my typo3 |
| 21:23 |
Rafau_ |
and i don't know what should i do with it |
| 21:24 |
Rafau_ |
"Error in init.php: Path to TYPO3 main dir could not be resolved correctly. |
| 21:24 |
Rafau_ |
This happens if the last 6 characters of this path, /usr/bin/ ($temp_path), is NOT "typo3/" for some reason. |
| 21:24 |
Rafau_ |
You may have a strange server configuration. Or maybe you didn't set constant TYPO3_MOD_PATH in your module? |
| 21:24 |
Rafau_ |
If you want to debug this issue, please edit typo3/init.php of your TYPO3 source and search for the die() call right after this line (search for this text to find)... |
| 21:39 |
krabatR |
could someone past me the TS for a condition when a user isnt loged in? |
| 21:39 |
lolli_ |
krabatR, yes, mom |
| 21:39 |
krabatR |
lolli_: thank you.... i wait :-) |
| 21:40 |
lolli_ |
in TYPO3 version < 4.4: |
| 21:40 |
lolli_ |
[loginUser = *] |
| 21:40 |
lolli_ |
[else] |
| 21:40 |
lolli_ |
# no user is logged in |
| 21:40 |
lolli_ |
[end] |
| 21:40 |
krabatR |
thx |
| 21:41 |
krabatR |
i try |
| 21:41 |
lolli_ |
but, with TYPO3 version >= 4.4 that's a bit more simple: |
| 21:41 |
krabatR |
it is 4.3 |
| 21:41 |
lolli_ |
[loginUser = ] |
| 21:41 |
lolli_ |
# a user is logged in |
| 21:41 |
lolli_ |
... |
| 21:42 |
lolli_ |
see http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14327 |
| 21:42 |
krabatR |
cool^^ but i wont update just for that^^ :-) but thank you.... i try |
| 21:42 |
lolli_ |
well, but remember for the future ;) 4.4 will be released in a few weeks ;) |
| 21:43 |
Rafau_ |
anybody can help me? :D |
| 21:43 |
lolli_ |
Rafau_, ... just do the debug as told ... but i currently have no time to dig deeper into your issue |
| 21:44 |
krabatR |
lolli_: is it realy [end] and not [global]? |
| 21:44 |
lolli_ |
aehm ... |
| 21:44 |
Rafau_ |
how do debug? |
| 21:45 |
lolli_ |
honestly, i'm not sure ;) afaik [end] and [global] are pretty much the same. if you're curious ... dig into the code and enlighten us ;) |
| 21:46 |
lolli_ |
Rafau_, as told ... look to init.php and see where this is thrown .. |
| 21:46 |
Rafau_ |
aa |
| 21:46 |
lolli_ |
btw: you're talking about some BE module that throws this? |
| 21:46 |
krabatR |
lolli_: i'l be back :-) |
| 21:46 |
Rafau_ |
line with die() is line nr 149 |
| 21:47 |
Rafau_ |
i remove RealUrl |
| 21:47 |
Rafau_ |
and this fix this problem but not for long |
| 21:47 |
Rafau_ |
few minutes later i have same problem |
| 21:48 |
lolli_ |
Rafau_, sry, i really can not give you much more info on that one, need to do some other things *now* |
| 21:48 |
Rafau_ |
and i don't have friendly url's |
| 21:48 |
Rafau_ |
ok, i understand |
| 21:56 |
chris--- |
hi |
| 21:56 |
chris--- |
i've been trying to map a simple link inside of a FCE for hours. without success. all i get is: "<a href="<a href="de/startseite.html">Startseite</a>">asd</a>" |
| 21:57 |
chris--- |
can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong there? i mapped the inner a as a plain text element |
| 21:57 |
chris--- |
and the href as an attribute link field |
| 21:57 |
chris--- |
just like it says in the tutorial |
| 21:59 |
krabatR |
lolli_: solved my probs.... my usergroup 4 was member of usergorup 3 an so it did not worked!!! Thank you! |
| 22:02 |
lolli_ |
welcome ;) |
| 22:06 |
chris--- |
found the error, somehow he is not writing the "10.typolink.returnLast = url" into the typoscript part in the xml |
| 22:10 |
lolli_ |
ok, i just committed the last major caching framework task for 4.4. happy caching @all :) |
| 22:28 |
pascalj |
lolli_: are you also involved with tx_enetcache? |
| 22:29 |
lolli_ |
pascalj, yes |
| 22:29 |
lolli_ |
do you use it? |
| 22:30 |
pascalj |
I will, I'm a student for the GSoC, writing tx_community |
| 22:30 |
lolli_ |
ah, great! |
| 22:31 |
lolli_ |
for questions: just ask! or drop me a mail, I'll try to answer quickly |
| 22:32 |
pascalj |
thanks a lot! I'll write you an email with a few details and questions, because I want to get the best out of the caching framework :-) |
| 22:32 |
lolli_ |
I'm one of the enetcache authors ;) just did my last commit yesterday ... I now have a fix for the garbage collection task together with extbase extension. this fix will lead to a new minor version too ... somewhere the next days |
| 22:32 |
pascalj |
Ingo told me about tx_enetcache and it's just what we need |
| 22:33 |
pascalj |
I see. Wow, that's luck to meet you here :-) |
| 22:33 |
lolli_ |
pascalj, great! it's highly appreciated if more extensions use it! |
| 22:34 |
lolli_ |
feedback very welcome ... if you have improvements (codewise, documentation, whatever) we'll handle it |
| 22:35 |
pascalj |
I didn't actually code with the framework (yet), but I must say: the documentation is just great |
| 22:36 |
lolli_ |
thanks. the topic is complicated and not too easy to understand. i hope the documentation helps |
| 22:36 |
lolli_ |
and i'll write some docu for the core caching framework as well, it's currently heavily under documented ... i just need some time to do so ;) |
| 22:38 |
pascalj |
will extension developers use the core caching framework directly as well in the future? |
| 22:38 |
lolli_ |
and yes, a community framework is probably one of the best use cases for content element / view based caching ;) |
| 22:39 |
pascalj |
heh, true - imagine the 50k+ users on typo3.org using the extension without caching... |
| 22:40 |
lolli_ |
well, you *could* use the caching framework directly, but you'd then have to take care of proper tagging for page caches and so on. enetcache just fills this gap and does this task for you. |
| 22:41 |
lolli_ |
so: yes, at the moment, a ext-dev. has to take care of caching himself. there is no built in magic and you have to think about it. this will hardly ever change in v4 |
| 22:41 |
pascalj |
I see, now it makes sense - I hope enetcache will ship with typo3 in the future |
| 22:42 |
lolli_ |
pascalj, currently, we just committed a lot of patches to v4 which evolved from enetcache. but i'm unsure if the whole solution will make it to the core |
| 22:44 |
lolli_ |
things like the garbage collection task and such should go to core. but the extension itself ... i'll need to discuss this with other core guys to see if this is usefull |
| 22:48 |
pascalj |
hmm, I think at least something similar would be very nice to have in the future |
| 22:49 |
lolli_ |
yes. we'll see what evolves from this |
| 22:50 |
lolli_ |
my current top1 task: make the memcache implementation faster than the db backend ;) i'll set up some test cases the next days and will dig into the implemenation to see if we can't squeeze more performance out of it |
| 22:50 |
pascalj |
anyway, I got to leave now. I will send you a mail with my idea regarding caching. I'd be glad to hear your opinion about that :-) |
| 22:50 |
lolli_ |
i'll see what i can do. see you soon! |
| 22:50 |
pascalj |
thanks a lot, bye! |
| 22:58 |
rawtaz |
guys |
| 22:58 |
rawtaz |
next week or so i will have to really dive into typo3, and will need to learn as much as i can in very short time. |
| 22:59 |
rawtaz |
for example i need to be able to handle it administrative wise, know how to build and edit pages and site structures, but also how to write extensions |
| 23:00 |
rawtaz |
my question is, can you recommend any specific documentation that i should start by reading? i mean, often there is some very good tutorial around that one can read to get a good overview. otherwise i guess ill sit down and dig through the entire manual, but if theres something lighter to start with that would be fine |
| 23:28 |
krabatR |
rawtaz: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_quickstart/0.1.0/view/ .... and it is not easy :-) for writing extensions you will need to understand ts first and that will take you some time! so start with it only if you realy want to... otherwise it is given away time |
| 23:30 |
rawtaz |
krabatR: im afraid i must :) soo, to write a non-trivial extension, how many weeks to get there approximately? |
| 23:31 |
rawtaz |
lol. ive said one week for "investigating typo3 and basic coding of modules". i guess thats waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too little :( |
| 23:33 |
rawtaz |
well i dunno to be honest, all i know is that i need to create a custom page for a search thingie, and the search thingie might need to be an extension. not sure yet :p |
| 23:33 |
rawtaz |
by TS i presume you mean typoscript |
| 23:33 |
krabatR |
rawtaz: cant say.... dont know how much knowlig you alrady have in such as c or php... dont know how many hours per day you have... when i startet it took me 1 week days to even have my first "own" template working :-) |
| 23:34 |
krabatR |
yea! ts = typoscript |
| 23:34 |
rawtaz |
template as in an extension or a page in the site? |
| 23:34 |
krabatR |
just page :-) |
| 23:34 |
rawtaz |
:( |
| 23:34 |
rawtaz |
this doesnt feel good |
| 23:36 |
krabatR |
just start but dont think you will know everything in short time..... to get one easy site online it wont take you long (1-2weeks i guess) take your time! and you will read ALOT :-) |
| 23:37 |
rawtaz |
ok :i |
| 23:38 |
rawtaz |
well, the situation is; i will be doing work for a client that already have an entire site in typo3, an old version (from 2006 i think). what htey want me to do is a totally custom search engine (which ill make seperate i guess) and a frontend to it that should be in typo3 (not sure if i will do that as an extension or just some page(s)). |
| 23:39 |
rawtaz |
and also an image database which should be searchable, might use the same engine at least in part |
| 23:39 |
rawtaz |
so i guess i will have to get an overview first of all, so i can determine what i need to go into depth on. but since i will have to do the frontend(s) i will probably need to understand how to build an entire site anyway |
| 23:42 |
rawtaz |
we'll see how it goes |
| 23:43 |
rawtaz |
will be an "interesting" summer |
| 23:43 |
krabatR |
rawtaz: why do you want to create a search engine? why not just use one whitch is there and than costomize it? |
| 23:44 |
rawtaz |
it needs to be totally customized. it will search through a set of PDF files in a very specific way, and need to have an administration interface for adding new PDFs to the storage |
| 23:44 |
rawtaz |
i cannot imagine that there would be something already suitable for this |
| 23:45 |
rawtaz |
im not sure though if i will build the admin interface in typo3 or just make it external. the latter might be easier. |
| 23:46 |
lolli_ |
rawtaz, take a look at solr. dkd is doing some really very nifty things with it and it's lighning fast |
| 23:46 |
lolli_ |
if you have some money: talk to them! |
| 23:47 |
lolli_ |
see solr in action: http://kress.de/recherche/suchassistent.html |
| 23:48 |
lolli_ |
this one is searching through 120k tt_news entries and two other big tables. the longest search i've seen server side was around 20 milliseconds (!!!) |
| 23:48 |
rawtaz |
sounds nice :) |
| 23:48 |
rawtaz |
what's tt_ ? |
| 23:48 |
lolli_ |
tt_news is *the* news extension of typo3 |
| 23:49 |
rawtaz |
oh ok |
| 23:51 |
rawtaz |
yeah actually the core search engine that is to search the index i will extract and build from the PDFs is something that would be good to not reinvent |
| 23:52 |
rawtaz |
thank you guys, for your comments :) |
| 23:52 |
rawtaz |
it is appreciated |
| 23:53 |
krabatR |
:-) hope you will have atleast some summer free time :-) come back when you have questions |
| 23:53 |
rawtaz |
all my time wil go to this i think :D funny thing is that what was (under)estimated to take 8 weeks have really became a lot more work, and at the same time ive gotten other things that really needs doing as well. with the same deadline, august |
| 23:54 |
rawtaz |
oh well |
| 23:54 |
rawtaz |
i will probably ask a buttload of questions in here in the near future :-P |
