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00:15 TaucherMK hi, i want to access a page (logged into backend) which is disabled through it's realURL, but it redirects me to the 404 Error Page (defined in the Installation)
00:16 TaucherMK the direct acces through index.php?id=40 works
08:57 Winston_S hey's
09:16 FloLeBlanc hi all
09:16 Winston_S hello
09:16 kraftb hello !
09:23 snoy_ms hey all. Is there a way do implement a dynamic tca field ? If i choose something in a selectbox, then i get different input fields.
09:24 snoy_ms i need something like this for my extension
09:26 sorenmalling snoy_ms: You can create your own user field in the tca and put some javascript refreshing the form and then display the fields
09:26 sorenmalling http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_api/4.0.0/view/4/2/#id4230249
09:26 snoy_ms ok, thanks i check it
09:30 snoy_ms sorenmalling: do you know where to save this user_class ?
09:32 sorenmalling snoy_ms: That can be anywhere in your extension folder, you can just include it inside your localconf.php and it will be avaliable when ever you call your userfunc
09:32 soee hi
09:33 soee can i ude LIKE statement in typoscript db queries ?
09:33 soee *use
09:33 snoy_ms sorenmalling: i would prefer an own file. But i dont get the connection to this file when using "'userFunc' => 'user_class->user_TCAform_test'," for example.
09:34 snoy_ms sorenmalling: never used an userFunc before
09:34 sorenmalling the userFunc will look for a class called user_class and in this class try to execute the function user_TCAform_test. You just have to make sure that, what ever file you have made the user_class in, is included. There fore my advise was to include that file inside your localconf.php because it's cached and always included
09:35 FloLeBlanc does someone have a demo for me on how a evalFunc for sr_feuser_register has to look like? (parameters, return values) ?
09:35 snoy_ms sorenmalling: ok, thx :-)
09:36 sorenmalling snoy_ms: np :) if you need any further help just try and write here, I'll response as fast as i can :)
09:41 kraftb Flo: simply create a method, add three parameters ($param1, $param2, $param3) ... and do a print_r() or var_dump() on them ... I guess only the first two are used
09:42 kraftb so you can remove the third then. I always do it like this when I have to create hook function and do not know which parameter is what :)
09:42 FloLeBlanc kraftb: $content and $conf are passed, but what do I have to return? only content?
09:42 kraftb yes ... usually
09:42 kraftb depends on where the evalFunc is used.
09:43 kraftb look it up in the sr_feuser_register code, there you see what is done with the return value
09:43 kraftb just search for the TypoScript key
09:44 FloLeBlanc ok thx
09:50 MikePer Hello. I get a t3lib_error_Exception from TV about a deprecated function and ~E_DEPRECATED seems not to work to suppress that. It's on Debian with apache2 and php5.3.1
09:55 No5251 moin
09:55 No5251 MikePer: did you restart the webserver?
09:55 MikePer yes
09:55 MikePer Ah sorry, good morning
09:56 MikePer besides, it's the split() function that seems to throw the exception
09:57 MikePer Humm, I wonder if the 1.1.1 is the newest version or would you suggest another one?
10:00 MikePer Why tells me typo3 that TV 1.1.1 is the newest version?
10:04 elmargol Somehow tt_news does not show any images in news-single-item view :(
10:04 elmargol Any ideas?
10:14 FloLeBlanc I've got a car.. it's red but doesn't drive any more.. what could be damaged? :)
10:14 teppi|working MikePer, have you checked if the right error_reporting is active when this error occurs .. afaik TYPO3 overrides the global settings .. i would suggest to put the active settings out with phpinfo() ..
10:15 PiMB FloLeBlanc, clear the cached and remove the temp_CACHED_tires from the trunk..
10:15 FloLeBlanc check the template, check if rendering of images is possible, check that you don't overwrite the image with TS, check if access rights are correct in the directory you store the images in
10:15 FloLeBlanc PiMB: LOL
10:15 PiMB ;)
10:18 xaver Good Morning
10:19 xaver i need a menu with png 24 bit and transparent background
10:19 xaver i get always black background
10:19 elmargol the template is ok. the image is im upload/pics and the permissions are ok too
10:19 elmargol I have checked my logs and there are no errors
10:19 elmargol caching is disabled for testing
10:20 PiMB how is your image rendering?
10:20 PiMB check in the install tool//
10:20 elmargol PiMB: it works for the whole page, just not for the tt_news part
10:21 PiMB how many images are in the item?
10:21 elmargol I have the thumbnail inside the tt_news admin interface
10:21 elmargol PiMB: 1 image
10:21 PiMB and I presume you have the marker for the images in the single image set?
10:21 elmargol I have ###NEWS_IMAGE### inside ###TEMPLATE_SINGLE###
10:23 AnD231 hello everybody.
10:23 AnD231 I have a problem with typo3.
10:23 AnD231 the links that are being generated are wrong.
10:24 PiMB elmargol
10:24 PiMB check http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/tt_news/3.0.1/view/1/4/#id2510801
10:24 PiMB and then search for firstImageIsPreview and forceFirstImageIsPreview
10:24 PiMB check if they are set or not.
10:24 AnD231 e.g. i get http://dangast.bplaced.net/binary-exec/php/?id=70 where i should be getting http://dangast.bplaced.net/typo3/index.php?id=70
10:25 AnD231 this might have to do with a PHP Update to PHP 5.3.2 which has been done on the server.
10:26 PiMB then check that first.
10:27 AnD231 is anybody aware of any solution to this problem?
10:27 AnD231 possibly it has got to do with tempnam(), which has undergone some change in PHP 5.3.2
10:28 teppi|working imho that is not a typo3 problem .. looks like a fucked up server configuration ..
10:29 PiMB have no problem with new php installation
10:29 PiMB maybe things can be checked with baseurls?
10:29 PiMB otherwise you should try reconfiguring the server
10:29 AnD231 well, the server admin claims it is all correct.
10:30 AnD231 when I add $_SERVER['ORIG_SCRIPT_FILENAME'] = $_SERVER['SCRIPT_FILENAME']; to the index.php my starting page begins to show. but the links still wonÄt work
10:32 AnD231 The address of the homepage is: http://dangast.bplaced.net/typo3 if that helps at all
10:32 teppi|working AnD231, there seems to happen some url rewrite
10:33 teppi|working have you checked the .htaccess?
10:33 xaver PiMB: any idear with gmenu and 24 bit tarnsprant brackground
10:33 teppi|working AnD231, if its standard ..
10:34 xaver PiMB: any idear with gmenu and 24 bit transprant brackground
10:34 AnD231 it is standard.
10:34 AnD231 ends with: # Add your own rules here
10:35 PiMB xaver, not sure if it's possible to render transparent bg's
10:35 FloLeBlanc xaver: did you set WHICH color is transparent in your TS? if I remember correct you have to do that
10:35 FloLeBlanc (of course the BG has to have that color then)
10:35 elmargol PiMB: found the problem... tt_news does not seem to support workspaces
10:36 AnD231 I once tried to instal RealURL. However I never got it to work, so I disabled the extension. Therefore it shouldn't interfere. correct?
10:36 xaver FloLeBlanc:
10:36 xaver format=png AND transparentBackground = 1
10:37 xaver i enabeld gdlib_png
10:37 AnD231 also, even if I type in the correct URL by manually, I will get that error.
10:38 AnD231 However I just found out, that if I just enter http://dangast.bplaced.net/typo3/?id=70 . It will show me the correct site.
10:39 teppi|working AnD231, http://dangast.bplaced.net/typo3/RELEASE_NOTES.txt
10:39 teppi|working this also works
10:40 teppi|working maybe add a die(); in the index.php at the top ..
10:40 teppi|working so you know if typo3 triggers the redirect
10:41 AnD231 well, the links seem to be fine (hovering over they show up fine), just the resolution to the contents somehow gets messed up
10:44 AnD231 if I understood correctly, I added the die(); at the top of the index.php. This however leaves me with a blank main page and all the rest of the symptoms?
10:44 teppi|working AnD231, yeah ..
10:44 teppi|working but you will see if the target url is right
10:44 AnD231 Trying to enter the backend also proves not to be feasible: http://dangast.bplaced.net/typo3/typo3/
10:45 teppi|working if not you know that is a server configuration issue
10:45 teppi|working *it
10:45 teppi|working if the arget url is right .. then you that typo3 makes a redirect somewhere later
10:46 teppi|working *know
10:46 teppi|working omg
10:46 teppi|working too early :D
10:46 PiMB coffee anyone?
10:46 teppi|working <- o/
10:47 AnD231 :)
10:47 Winston_S <- \o/
10:50 teppi|working AnD231, i think there is somewhere a directive in your apache configuration that all direct calls to *.php will be redirected to /binary-exec/php/ .. or something like that
10:50 Winston_S like teppi said, did you try to run phpinfo?
10:51 AnD231 http://www.phpinfo.bplaced.net/
10:52 AnD231 is this what you mean?
10:53 AnD231 Unfortunately I cannot make out anything, that would help me.
10:53 Winston_S kind of. for comparision it would be a good idea to just create a new .php file with just <?php phpInfo(); ?> in it and run it from your wwwroot
10:59 AnD231 like this http://dangast.bplaced.net/new.php
10:59 AnD231 I do not spot any difference
11:01 teppi|working AnD231, I don't think it has to do with your php configuration .. i think its some mod rewrite stuff ..
11:01 Winston_S they totally messed with that installed php anyways
11:01 teppi|working and btw.. i would create an own sub domain for your typo3 installation .. just to eliminate another error source
11:02 AnD231 ok. so there is nothing I could do? @Winston_S: could you give me a pointer, to what I should let the admin know?
11:02 teppi|working AnD231, as i said somewhere above you could test if the redirect is done by typo3
11:02 teppi|working or by some magic server stuff
11:02 AnD231 how could I test that?
11:02 teppi|working if you just place a die() at the top of your typo3-index script
11:02 teppi|working :-(
11:02 teppi|working i already said that
11:03 teppi|working if the url is still rewritten its some server configuration ..
11:03 teppi|working what im almost sure of
11:03 AnD231 sorry. I might have misunderstood. I did that. And all i saw was a blank page, so I did not see the point. maybe you could clarify to me, what I should be doing after adding the die()
11:04 teppi|working AnD231, yeah and which URL did you see at the top?
11:04 teppi|working you just have to debug ..
11:05 AnD231 I see the same URL I entered: http://dangast.bplaced.net/typo3/
11:05 PiMB with the die?
11:05 AnD231 yes.
11:05 teppi|working you see .. then its a typo3 problem .. most probably
11:06 AnD231 only now my start page is totally white. kind of refreshing.. ;)
11:10 teppi|working AnD231, the die() stops all php processing ..
11:11 teppi|working you'll have to delete it to show the page
11:11 teppi|working i think there is a problem somewhere in your typo3 configuration ..
11:12 teppi|working a good point to start would be the install tool .. check if all params are ok ..
11:12 AnD231 OK, the interesting thing is, that the page was running until 3/7. And I did not do anything. Then all of a sudden it had all these problems.
11:13 AnD231 The only thing I could find out is, that the seem to have updated PHP to 5.3.2
11:13 AnD231 about at the same time.
11:18 AnD231 OK. Thanks for the time you invested.
11:18 AnD231 I will try with the install tool later. However it seems weird to me, that anything should be wrong there, since I did not mess at all with anything on the site for at least a month, when it suddenly came down on me.
11:56 tPl0ch hi, I have some Problems wit exec_SELECT_mm_query(). If I fetch all records without specifying a WHERE clause, it gives me all records. But I don't know how to get only certain records, like having WHERE mm_table.uid_local = {$id}
11:57 tPl0ch I just don't have a clue on how to pass that ID to the query
12:13 tPl0ch I am pretty sure that nobody will answer my question
12:13 tPl0ch everybody just waits for Flow and leaves old Typo3 for the dogs
12:14 FloLeBlanc tPl0ch: http://typo3.org/fileadmin/typo3api-4.2.6/
12:14 FloLeBlanc t3lib_DB.exec_SELECT_mm_query ( $ select, $ local_table, $ mm_table, $ foreign_table, $ whereClause = '', $ groupBy = '', $ orderBy = '', $ limit = '' )
12:15 tPl0ch FloLeBlanc, I have the API open in front of me
12:15 tPl0ch but where statements
12:15 tPl0ch are not working
12:15 tPl0ch I only get empty resultsets
12:16 FloLeBlanc the function itself should work quite well, used that one a time ago, try to print the query to the screen and run it in phpMyAdmin ?
12:16 Winston_S you could enable mysql query logging to see what actually gets through to the database
12:17 FloLeBlanc is there an intro on flow actually? I have to admit I don't even know what it does
12:19 tPl0ch FloLeBlanc, The function is working, but I only want certian results, I can't just query the whole database if I only need one result
12:19 tPl0ch *the whole tables
12:20 Georges_Abitbol Hi all
12:20 soee anyone who knows bddb_flvvideogallery extension ?
12:20 MikePer Is there a way in TV to influence the header mapping of the template? TV seems to clog my header somewhat.
12:20 Georges_Abitbol I create an image (in a frontend plugin) with $this->cObj>IMAGE. This returns me the image tag, but I would like only the url to the image created. I do not found method for this. Does anyone know ?
12:21 MikePer Or is there a way to group header lines for TV manually?
12:22 MikePer Especially these in comments for special browser
12:36 soee there are some extension where in one field i can put some media files, in second field i can write title for each file (new line for each description) and the same for title. now can u tell me where the data is stored if its not id databse ?
12:48 elmargol How do i strike text in tt_news? the RTE editor does not have the symbol for it
12:55 FloLeBlanc this is a RTE config issue not tt_news, try to setup the RTE to the "showoff" value in the extension manager
12:56 FloLeBlanc (click on the extension - it's in the options)
12:56 elmargol thx
12:56 FloLeBlanc yw
13:05 elmargol FloLeBlanc: strange if i update the settings i get File not written to disk! Write permission error in filesystem?
13:06 FloLeBlanc elmargol: can't say - may be the case yes
13:14 elmargol permissions as allways
14:16 MikePer Will TemplaVoila reparse the header of my template if I update the mapping after manually editing the template?
14:57 MikePer Strange, I have two page.headerData.XX = TEXT in my template setup (11 and 12) but only one is shown in the page. Actually it is always the second.
14:58 Thasmo Hello! Could someone pls gimme a hint, how to easily use some sort of pagination within fluid templates in combination with extbase? thanks a lot!
15:44 dc mornin
15:45 dc i've got a question that i'm stuck at...
15:45 dc how do you, using templavoila.. create an Element within an FCE, that has a Link, but only when defined..
15:47 dc my setup was like this <a href="#">< ##IMAGE## /></a> - the Image was defined using a regular image element, and the a-tag was defined using the href= attribute element -> that way, every image is surrounded by an empty link tag though
16:08 xaver i updated from 4.2. to 4.3 and i have a Problem with my textcolors: http://paste.phlogi.net/-4f63dea615/
16:17 Xilent_ hi, i need an userTs snippet to change the default rights on new pages
16:22 Xilent_ i've found it TCEMAIN.permissions
17:03 MikePer Is it possible to modify the default wrap of a DS element in TemplaVoila? Might the field "Custom stdWrap" be used for that and how?
17:13 No5251 MikePer: you can edit "wrap" in the DS-XML
17:16 b-baermann hi! what could be wrong, if i just got a ~file to download instead of the homepage? thanks for any hint.
17:18 b-baermann if i download the file it contains only a minimal html-document with <meta http-equiv="refresh" ...> header
17:19 MikePer No5251, the global one? Or create a local one?
17:22 MikePer No5251, there is no wrap, do I have to add it? And could you please give an example or explain it further? :)
17:28 MikePer No5251, I added a 10.wrap = <li>|</li> but the output is surprising
17:28 MikePer I think I got only a list of IDs instead of the content
17:32 MikePer Oh uh. It wraps... but all elements at once. Is there a way to wrap every one?
17:32 MikePer Or suppress the original div-wrapping?
17:52 TheEternalAbyss Hey is anyone available to help me debug tt_news and figure out why it won't work correctly for me?
17:52 TheEternalAbyss I've been trying to get it working for like 3 or 4 days now and I'm at a total loss
17:53 TheEternalAbyss It does not want to work on my front page
17:53 TheEternalAbyss chriscastiglione.com
17:54 TheEternalAbyss but it does work here: http://chriscastiglione.com/index.php?id=154
19:03 TheEternalAbyss ?
19:03 TheEternalAbyss can't anyone help me with this?
19:04 TheEternalAbyss tt_news not working right
19:04 TheEternalAbyss It does not want to work on my front page
19:04 TheEternalAbyss chriscastiglione.com
19:04 TheEternalAbyss but it does work here: http://chriscastiglione.com/index.php?id=154
19:04 TheEternalAbyss PM me plz
19:47 Conic hey guys, does someone know where to edit the html template for filelinks!?
19:47 Conic this would be very helpful
19:48 Conic i bet there's someone who can help me :D
19:53 Conic someone an idea where i could edit the template for filelinks?
19:53 Conic i mean the rendering of filelinks...
19:57 Conic someone in here? :D
20:14 TheEternalAbyss i'm here and i've needed help
20:15 TheEternalAbyss and i get none..what do you mean edit the rendering of filelinks
20:15 TheEternalAbyss sorry i'm sort of noobish to typo3
20:26 Conic TheEternalAbyss: this is kinda tricky stuff ;)
20:26 Conic thanks for being motivated to helo me, but it's a bit difficult, so i thought some of the pros in here could help me
20:26 Conic *to help me
20:49 smeringe hello again :)
20:55 tmkd hello, i don't know how change tt_news template
20:55 tmkd can you help me?
20:56 smeringe tmkd: uhm.. sure
20:57 tmkd i heard that i have to change template
20:57 tmkd but how to build this template
20:57 smeringe there are default templates in the extensions folder
20:58 tmkd i think that i dont have any. i will check
20:58 smeringe check the pi/tt_news_v2_template.html template
20:58 smeringe that's typo3conf/ext/tt_news/pi1/tt_news_v2...
20:59 tmkd typo3/ext , typo3conf/ext?
20:59 tmkd ok thanks
20:59 smeringe ;)
20:59 tmkd you skip my questions:)
20:59 tmkd and answer faster
20:59 tmkd :)great
20:59 smeringe yeah. I'm lightning :P
21:00 smeringe tmkd: then check the documentation at http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/tt_news/2.4.0/view/1/4/#id2867732
21:00 TheEternalAbyss tmkd can you tell me why tt_news won't work for me?
21:00 TheEternalAbyss It does not want to work on my front page
21:00 tmkd what version?
21:00 smeringe copy the default template and add plugin.tt_news.templateFile = your-template-file into the typoscript
21:01 TheEternalAbyss of t3 or news?
21:01 tmkd both
21:01 TheEternalAbyss t3 is 4.2.10
21:01 TheEternalAbyss news is 2.7.4....i think let me verify
21:01 tmkd smeringe: unfortunately i dont have this template
21:02 smeringe tmkd: that's odd. an older tt_news?
21:02 TheEternalAbyss 2.5.2
21:02 smeringe tmkd: there should be a template file of some kind
21:02 tmkd do you have News Admin ?
21:02 TheEternalAbyss do i? I don't think so
21:03 TheEternalAbyss strange thing is it works on one page but not on the other
21:03 TheEternalAbyss http://chriscastiglione.com/index.php?id=154
21:03 TheEternalAbyss works here
21:03 TheEternalAbyss I also can't seem to get categories going, but that's besides te point right now
21:04 TheEternalAbyss i don't see any news admin
21:05 tmkd smeringe: i see few class.tx_tt_news...
21:05 tmkd llocalang.xml
21:06 tmkd static folder and one gif file
21:06 smeringe :S weird
21:06 tmkd i know
21:06 tmkd but i found on the internet this template
21:07 smeringe tmkd: it's in the list of files of the extension @ http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/tt_news/current/
21:07 smeringe copy the one there then.. tell tt_news where your own template is located via typoscript
21:08 tmkd copy also css ?
21:10 tmkd next step is plugin.tt_news.templateFile = fileadmin/templates/main/tt_news_v2_template.html
21:10 tmkd ??
21:11 tmkd smeringe: should i treat this file as set of parts which describe news?
21:11 tmkd single news, list of news.
21:11 smeringe tmkd: don't necesseraly need the css (use your own), bu the rest is correct
21:12 smeringe yeah.
21:12 smeringe (the last question ;)
21:14 TheEternalAbyss finish up with smeringe, then if ou can help me tmkd i'd really appreciate it
21:14 TheEternalAbyss you*
21:14 TheEternalAbyss been trying to get this working for 4 days
21:14 tmkd TheEternalAbyss: i am beginner , smerigne knows much more
21:14 tmkd did you add news?
21:15 TheEternalAbyss well if smeringe or anyoen can help me, as long as it works lol
21:15 TheEternalAbyss yea it's all added
21:15 TheEternalAbyss http://chriscastiglione.com/index.php?id=154
21:15 TheEternalAbyss see it works on this page
21:15 TheEternalAbyss but not on my home page
21:15 TheEternalAbyss and i can't get categories to work
21:16 smeringe "my home page" = another site, and not the HOME-home page? :)
21:16 TheEternalAbyss i can create categories, but they don't show up in my list of categories when I create a new news item
21:16 TheEternalAbyss smeringe: eh?
21:16 TheEternalAbyss no it's all one site
21:16 TheEternalAbyss chriscastiglione.com
21:17 TheEternalAbyss doesn't work on that page (which is the front page of the site)
21:17 smeringe now I follow. sry
21:17 TheEternalAbyss it's cool
21:17 tmkd TheEternalAbyss: did you see news?
21:17 TheEternalAbyss tmkd: wee it where
21:18 TheEternalAbyss see*
21:18 smeringe TheEternalAbyss: it seems to me that you haven't set a starting point for your news
21:18 tmkd maybe news are hidden
21:18 TheEternalAbyss I have
21:18 smeringe on the front page..
21:18 tmkd i have this problem today
21:18 TheEternalAbyss I have set it
21:19 TheEternalAbyss my starting point on the front page is my sysfolder called "News"
21:19 tmkd in tt_news 3 i dont have any folders
21:19 TheEternalAbyss that sysfolder holds all my news items
21:19 tmkd i use News Admin to add categories, and news and it automaticall adds to selected place in page
21:19 smeringe well.. tt_news seems tt_news works, but doesn't find any news.. (why the message on fronpage)
21:19 TheEternalAbyss or rather will hold all the news items
21:20 TheEternalAbyss but it's there
21:20 TheEternalAbyss why isn't it finding it
21:20 TheEternalAbyss ?
21:20 tmkd i dont know
21:20 tmkd do you se "no news" communicate?
21:21 TheEternalAbyss i've ever even heard of them tmkd
21:21 TheEternalAbyss it says no news item in list so I assume it's commnicating that
21:21 tmkd so maybe you have wrong configuration
21:21 tmkd ok
21:21 TheEternalAbyss ok, the news list on this page:
21:21 TheEternalAbyss http://chriscastiglione.com/index.php?id=154
21:22 tmkd i have same information, and all news where hidden
21:22 TheEternalAbyss I copied and pasted that exact content element
21:22 TheEternalAbyss onto the main page
21:22 tmkd are you sure you dont have hidden?
21:22 TheEternalAbyss yes i'm sure
21:22 smeringe TheEternalAbyss: could you trust in pm me a temp. admin and let e check tt_news for you?
21:22 TheEternalAbyss it shows up on page id 154
21:22 TheEternalAbyss so it's not hidden
21:22 tmkd no
21:22 tmkd :)
21:22 uriah|lap is there a way of having a different TV template for each language version of a page?
21:22 tmkd i work on my tt_news and i don't have time now
21:23 tmkd but you can trust my later:)
21:23 TheEternalAbyss no what
21:23 TheEternalAbyss I see it right there "Lorem New Item"
21:23 TheEternalAbyss that's my test news item
21:24 TheEternalAbyss uriah: a different template per language?
21:24 uriah|lap indeed
21:25 TheEternalAbyss yea you need a different pagetree per language then and individual templates
21:25 smeringe uriah|lap: I think it's possible, but not really an easy task afaik. the DS for the page should be the same.. otherwise it's better to have separate page structures for each languages..
21:25 uriah|lap hmm...
21:25 uriah|lap it's only for one specific page :)
21:25 uriah|lap which is the root
21:26 TheEternalAbyss smeringe: any ideas why news is being so goofy on me?
21:26 TheEternalAbyss uriah: what needs to change in the root?
21:27 uriah|lap just a few default html sections of the template...
21:27 TheEternalAbyss uriah: cause you could maybe get away with just some javascript. Some "case" comparisons for different languages and depending on the language you output the html you need
21:27 uriah|lap because some differences are already hard-coded in the html design, so it would be useless to create TV vars for them
21:27 smeringe TheEternalAbyss: no, I'm afraid not.. it's time consuming just to guess.. why I asked about the login.. it's definetly some kind of configuration miss, but what is is I don't know
21:28 uriah|lap however, this would be my solution otherwise: change each of these small differences via TS
21:28 TheEternalAbyss smeringe: oh you asked about login? sorry had missed that
21:28 uriah|lap TheEternalAbyss: true, but js won't work in all browsers ;) that takes away compatibility
21:29 TheEternalAbyss well if they are using old arse browsers i'd say it's their problem not mine
21:29 TheEternalAbyss javascript is pretty standard in all modern browsers
21:29 uriah|lap bah i guess i'll just run the files in meld and look the diffences up in typo3 and set the vars in TS
21:29 uriah|lap TheEternalAbyss: true, but certain people run noscript
21:30 TheEternalAbyss why
21:30 TheEternalAbyss they afraid of malicious code?
21:30 uriah|lap TheEternalAbyss: also, some countries don't have amazing tech
21:30 uriah|lap TheEternalAbyss: indeed
21:30 uriah|lap it can be injected even on normal/safe sites
21:30 TheEternalAbyss sorry I don't mean to me argumentative cause really I'm not loyal to any one web technology
21:31 TheEternalAbyss but a browser isn't high tech
21:31 uriah|lap :)
21:31 TheEternalAbyss to be argumentative i mean
21:31 uriah|lap true, but some people just don't maintain their systems cause they can't afford it... so they're stuck using really old, unupdated installs of win2k all over the place and it suffices for their needs so they just stick with it
21:32 uriah|lap however it's very outdated and unsecure
21:32 uriah|lap anyway
21:32 uriah|lap i'm not making sense again
21:32 uriah|lap so i'll shut up about this
21:33 TheEternalAbyss i grant that
21:33 TheEternalAbyss no it makes sense
21:33 TheEternalAbyss just that the code i suggest is probably supported in the 1st version of javascript lol
21:33 uriah|lap lol
21:33 uriah|lap sure
21:33 TheEternalAbyss if I were doign complex things I'd agree that I compatibility will go down
21:34 uriah|lap but people from older generations of general computer knowledge, who still use these old systems, often have the habit of disabling javascript because of the security dangers
21:34 uriah|lap lol
21:34 uriah|lap yeah...
21:34 uriah|lap but some complex js can be repaired with css
21:35 uriah|lap or replaced, rather
21:35 uriah|lap like the menu animation i added to this new site
21:35 TheEternalAbyss true
21:35 TheEternalAbyss yea
21:35 uriah|lap and the content blocks opening up and stuff
21:35 TheEternalAbyss brb
21:36 uriah|lap hmm, there could be a plugin for what i seek
21:37 uriah|lap i mean, such a hook could exist as well...
21:37 uriah|lap like forcing a default TV template via TS
21:37 uriah|lap and then having language conditionals
21:38 TheEternalAbyss back
21:40 uriah|lap http://lists.typo3.org/pipermail/typo3-project-templavoila/2009-January/003770.html
21:40 uriah|lap would this do it?
21:41 uriah|lap childTemplate?
21:41 uriah|lap that is awesome
21:42 TheEternalAbyss maybe yea
21:42 uriah|lap i'll try it out later
23:22 uriah|lap http://lists.typo3.org/pipermail/typo3-project-templavoila/2009-January/003789.html
23:23 uriah|lap hmm, not too sure which TSConfig to edit...
23:23 uriah|lap never mind, found lol
23:28 uriah|lap wow that was so easy to do

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