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03:23 ries nd__: just make the JSON in typoscript or in a extension ... I would use a type for it though
09:13 maholtz|WORK morning
09:17 PiMB morning
09:31 BejjWrk morning
09:33 Der_Steve morning
09:36 poggie morning
09:37 poggie is it possible to check in TS if the user has JavaScript enabled ?
09:40 BejjWrk I dont think so, since TS is parsed by typo3 during runtime on serverside, the client sends no information regarding js
09:43 BejjWrk poggie: tho I guess you could technically make a javascript add a variable to the links and by that use ts to read the get variable and determine if they support JS or not
09:44 BejjWrk wouldnt work on the initial visit tho
09:47 poggie thanks BejjWrk, then I will try to find another way to find out this information
10:08 rait Afternoon everyone
10:08 rait I'm having a problem with tt_news and month names
10:09 rait As all my tt_news contents is in correct charset, but the month names seem to be in a wrong charset
10:09 rait what's up with that?
10:10 maholtz|WORK @morning rait:)
10:10 maholtz|WORK @poggie: is it possible to check if JavaScript is enabled via PHP?
10:11 maholtz|WORK @rait: does it work without tt_news - just typoscript?
10:12 DoDoNL I have a problem. I wrote my own extension and I want to get the contents of a generated page using file_get_contents, but now the script is really slow and throws an error at the end
10:12 rait how would I test it? :D I am not using dates in anywhere else besides the tt_news
10:12 maholtz|WORK @DoDoNL: perhaps you are not allowed to connect? having timeout..?
10:13 DoDoNL No, it just runs very slow, but loads the page in the end
10:13 maholtz|WORK @rait: use TEXT object lib.date = TEXT lib.date.data = date:U lib.date.strftime = ...
10:13 DoDoNL The thrown error is that he can't unlink a temporary file from locks
10:14 maholtz|WORK @DoDoNL: your sure he gets the locks before?
10:14 poggie @maholtz: as far as I know it is not, but I try to run a JS to make a Ajax request. If the Request is successfull I know that JS is enabled.
10:14 maholtz|WORK @poggie: so you could use the session for that
10:15 Lars_dk Hi, everyone, i have a little problem with direct_mail_subscription or direct_mail every time i try to creat a testreciever i gets some error i can't locate why so i hope there was someone in here there could help me
10:16 poggie good idea thanks, I will try this
10:18 DoDoNL maholtz: The file doesn't exist. I created it manually, but then I still get an error from the toch() function
10:19 maholtz|WORK @DoDoNL: i would write a test-script outside of TYPO3 just the few lines you really need
10:20 maholtz|WORK perhaps there is a firewall f.e. which blocks the call
10:20 Der_Steve has anyone of you experience with the xmlrpc_server? I got a problem with receiving proper xml from the server, instead i just get the html
10:20 DoDoNL The moment it slows down is when I call file_get_contents('http://mydomain.com/my-page');
10:20 maholtz|WORK sounds like a timeout
10:23 nd___ How can I output a page as json instead of html? I need content parts for ajax-loaded views...
10:28 DoDoNL maholtz: When I call that page directly, it's loaded within a second
10:31 maholtz|WORK @DoDoNL: what means directly? file_get_contents gets the timeout
10:31 maholtz|WORK if the firewall blocks the request, you are not allowed to connect
10:31 maholtz|WORK you are opening an http that is not local!
10:32 DoDoNL So if I change http://domain.com/page into /page, there is a difference?
10:46 DoDoNL maholtz: The page I want to open is local, but when loading /index.php, it doesn't load the right page
11:03 SmaxTheFrog hi, anyone using tt_products online ? my articles are not displayed in right char encoding and i dont find how to change ?
11:06 SmaxTheFrog if i put an utf8 encode before the output all is fine, but shouldnt i be able to tell tt_products that website is utf8 and do the encodeing itself ?
11:12 DoDoNL maholtz: When typing the URL in the browser, it is shown directly
11:13 DoDoNL maholtz|WORK: I have on idea what I do wrong...
11:16 maholtz|WORK @DoDoNL: there is a difference in opening a local file or a "local website via http and domain"
11:16 maholtz|WORK the first one cannot blocked by a firewall, but the second can
11:16 maholtz|WORK just try to open google.com
11:17 DoDoNL maholtz|WORK: The page is on the same domain, but loads via http
11:17 maholtz|WORK just load google.com
11:17 DoDoNL I did, but I can't find a solution that solves the problem.; Tried multiple, but with no luck
11:17 maholtz|WORK if you have the same effect your http call has been blocked
11:17 maholtz|WORK or your dns cannot resolved
11:18 DoDoNL Just tried it again and the page loads, but it took more then 30 seconds
11:19 maholtz|WORK did you wrote an stand alone php script?
11:20 maholtz|WORK 5 lines to check if it depends on the connection or is something different
11:24 DoDoNL maholtz|WORK: I did and that loads in a second
11:24 DoDoNL Same script
11:27 maholtz|WORK so start to debug your script, track done the milliseconds on each step
11:30 DoDoNL Okay, I'll debug it. Thanks for your help
11:30 maholtz|WORK hth
11:42 Recnelis Does anyone remember the magic little TS line to insert when you have 2x<body> tags in ur html source?
12:43 pcb-dennis Hi, i try to install typo3 4.3.2, but when i connect to the installer this popup about cookies always occurs and i cannot continue installation, browser definetly has cookies=on
12:58 elmargol any Ideas why this does not work? http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-b8f142d28e/
13:36 elmargol http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-76809e422b/ <- any ideas why this does not work?
13:36 elmargol XmosX: thx for the query
13:36 elmargol XmosX: my problem is a bit more complicated now :)
13:37 ries kraftb: good job on the caching stuff.... although the PHP people say serialization is fast, it's actually really slow.... The same I always wondered why TYPO3 doesn't store that info in objects rather then keep on doing the array/map stuff
13:39 kraftb even if stored in objects the data has to get somehow mangled to a string when being put in the database
13:39 kraftb so in fact there are two problems: how to store data between requests without modifying the structure and/or traversing over the whole structure
13:40 kraftb the first one: storing the data between requests can get solved by the memcached/xcache like php extensions
13:40 kraftb and the second one: not to modify the data would need some changes in the core, because serialize/userialize is hardcoded there ...
13:40 kraftb ^ ries
13:41 ries kraftb: for the objects I mean, they get passed through functions more efficiently
13:41 ries you are right at the rest
13:41 kraftb you mean objects being passed as reference?
13:41 ries I always tend to think it like this...
13:41 kraftb afaik php implements a copyonwrite mechanism ...
13:42 kraftb so even variables (arrays etc) get passed as reference, and a copy will only be made in a function if some changes get made to the data
13:42 ries why would it take 500ms to generate 10Kb worth of data... that are a LOT of wasted CPU cycles
13:42 kraftb i know ...
13:42 kraftb well ... this is because of the complex structure of T3 ...
13:42 kraftb i already tought often about rewriting typo3 in C ;)
13:43 kraftb but then I always end up at the point when the extensions come in ...
13:43 ries afaik php implements a copyonwrite mechanism ... <= True, however in some conditions PHP cannot predict if to make a copy or not and out of savety it makes a copy
13:43 kraftb all of them are written in php ... so there would have to be some kind of interface
13:43 kraftb probably one could make a php-extension implementing TYPO3 ;)
13:44 kraftb <?php typo3(); ?>
13:44 kraftb ;)
13:44 ries some parts yes.... But it seems like there are no really single parts that consume 80% of the time... it has been a long time when I looked into it, fiund some issues but didn't bother to write kasper at that time
13:45 ries anyways, good work
13:45 kraftb i know ... the problem is that there are no thing which take all the time ... but all things take all the time :(
13:45 ries yeaaa
13:45 kraftb i guess it could be a start to implement some of the most time consuming steps as php module ...
13:45 kraftb like typoscript parsing, etc.
13:45 ries I think that the array/objects should be created lazy... currently I don't think they are created in that way
13:45 kraftb so part by part of the typo3 core gets replaces by more efficient C code
13:46 kraftb and probably somewhen all this could get put together, so everything except the extensions gets run from within the apache/php core
13:46 ries would be a challenging task.. I bet ya you could even sell these extension ...
13:47 kraftb i do not like to sell things which can get copied ;)
13:49 ries well.. you need to make a living to ;)
14:07 zed_devil hi all
14:09 zed_devil i have a FCE and want to create Headlines like a normal "Text" element
14:09 zed_devil how can i do that
14:11 KrabatR Hey. Is there a marker for each country name so that it autotranslate it from germen in englisch? i use static_info_tables.
14:12 KrabatR thought about something like ###COUNTRY_EN### for England
14:40 elmargol Is there a way to remove html tags from a TEXT field?
14:40 kraftb ?
14:40 kraftb from a "TEXT" cObject ?
14:41 elmargol kraftb: yes I read some values using RECORDS
14:41 kraftb lib.whatever = TEXT
14:41 kraftb lib.whatever.field = yourtextfield
14:41 kraftb lib.whatever.stripHtml = 1
14:41 kraftb will remove any html tags
14:41 kraftb or your could do : ".htmlSpecialChars = 1"
14:41 kraftb which will encode them
14:46 elmargol kraftb: http://paste.phlogi.net/-22d11916ba/
14:46 elmargol thats how my code looks
14:47 kraftb elmargol: add "stripHtml = 1" below "field = short"
14:48 elmargol kraftb: thank you :)
14:49 elmargol works perfekt :)
14:52 beli hi there...are there infos for creating a local mirror of the typo3 extension repository?
14:55 SargoDarya beli: you know how much extensions there are in the TER?
14:55 PiMB 4233
14:55 PiMB +- 1
14:55 beli and?
14:55 kraftb I guess creating a local mirror only makes sense if you are a provider or similar ...
14:56 kraftb in europe there are quite number of official mirrors - if you are located somewhere else in the world I think you are welcome to provide an official mirror ;)
14:56 beli i guess its using svn/git/rsync
14:56 kraftb in TER not only the current versions are available, but also many older versions of each extension ...
14:56 kraftb the disk space is not the problem I guess ...
14:57 kraftb but it will be difficult to retrieve alle the .t3x files ... if you do not contact someone from the typo3.org staff ...
14:57 kraftb and making a local mirror of the extensions just for your own sake is neither wanted nor would it make any sense ... if it does make sense tell me which :)
14:59 beli i just want to make sure that it is possible for anyone, i am just planning atm
15:02 StaffanE kraftb: should be possible to have sourceforge mirror ter in some way
15:03 kraftb would be nice ...
15:03 kraftb well ... if you have a sf.net account, you also have shell access ...
15:03 kraftb I do not know exactly, but I guess you can also set up cron jobs
15:03 kraftb so it should be no problem ...
15:04 kraftb but I guess if you cause a lot of automated traffic you'll have to ask the guys at sf.net if thats ok.
15:07 beli kraftb: i dont think that updating it produces much traffic....
15:10 marcuslind Is it possible to make the letters wider with CSS? When using letter-spacing you only increase the space between the letters. I would like to make the letters themselves wider.
15:11 beli marcuslind: no...just proportional resizing is possible with css afaik
15:11 marcuslind Are you sure of that or should I keep looking?
15:12 beli marcuslind: i am pretty sure, but if its just for captions you could use IM or GM to do the job
15:13 marcuslind Well it's my boss (who's a designer) that asks me because he wants to design the menus with a Arial but a wide arial.
15:15 beli marcuslind: as said, you could use GMENU to do it
15:15 beli marcuslind: but you need a font that is wide then ;)
15:15 marcuslind http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-fonts/#font-width-the-font-stretch-property
15:15 beli marcuslind: or maybe you could resize the generated image afterwards
15:16 beli font-stretch is not what you are searching for
15:16 beli its not css2.x compatible
15:17 marcuslind But why would I want to use images?
15:17 marcuslind I want to use real text
15:17 marcuslind images isnt very SEO friendly
15:20 beli marcuslind: use alt text for images ;)
15:20 marcuslind hehe ye but it's still not ultimate.
15:20 beli marcuslind: html/css is not a pixel editor
15:20 marcuslind I rather leave them at normal width
15:20 marcuslind then to create a image of each link
15:20 marcuslind :)
15:21 marcuslind btw, he wanted increased width on <h1> too.
15:21 marcuslind So same goes for that. <h1> is an important tag for SEO
15:21 beli you could do graphical <h1> then too
15:22 beli ok thats right, but you could still have <h1> and hide text visibility
15:22 marcuslind True.
15:22 beli all a bit tricky
15:22 marcuslind but dont know what Google say about that :)
15:22 beli its all about compatibility stuff
15:22 marcuslind Black hat SEO to hide text like that :'<
15:22 beli http/css is b0rken :)
15:22 marcuslind :]
15:23 marcuslind Well anyway, too bad it wasnt a good CSS command for it.
15:23 KrabatR my tt_products dose not accept 10.price = ??? 20.price, 30.price and so on is no problem. just 10.price it dose not accept! Someone an idea??
15:23 beli it's there for css3
15:23 beli kraftb: did you use a copy or reference on 10. before?
15:23 Lerain you could use a negative text-indent of like -1000px to push the text out of the <h1> and then just use a background image
15:24 kraftb ?
15:24 kraftb what ? where ? when ? which copied reference ? ;)
15:25 beli kraftb: did you use sth like 10 < 5 or 10 < = 5 before?
15:25 KrabatR not in my typoscript
15:26 beli marcuslind: the css command is planned as you can see for css3...but then it will be still a compatibility problem....that's why web programmers are forced to use ugly hacks all the time (see lerain's hint) ;)
15:27 Lerain i wouldn't call it ugly, but yea... ;)
15:27 beli Lerain: oh it is not....native :)
15:36 anteatersa anyone know of an easy way to disable "typo3-previewInfo" from appearing on certain page types when logged in backend.. using typoscript
15:37 anteatersa that's the red preview box
16:01 Georges_Abitbol I have a new extension with static ts defined. In my root page I added this statis ts and I could see it in template analyser. Problem : nothing for this ts is in my extension while it works when the same ts is copied in my template in admin. Is there anything more to do after inserting statix ts from my extension in my template ?
16:10 AlphawolfWMP Hey folks, is it possible to change the orderBy behaviour for a sitemap CE of subpages?
16:11 AlphawolfWMP Currently the submenu menu orders the sites like in the BE tree
16:16 schwaiger is it piossible to show a gifbuilder object only if field media is given ?
16:27 schwaiger no one knows
16:53 schwaiger 10 = IMAGE
16:53 schwaiger 10 {
16:53 schwaiger file = GIFBUILDER
16:53 schwaiger file {
16:53 schwaiger XY = 960,320
16:53 schwaiger format = jpg
16:53 schwaiger quality = 80
16:53 schwaiger 10 = IMAGE
16:53 schwaiger 10 {
16:53 schwaiger file.import = uploads/tx_templavoila/
16:53 schwaiger file.import.current = 1
16:53 schwaiger file.import.listNum = 0
16:53 schwaiger file.maxW = 960
16:53 schwaiger file.maxH = 320
16:53 schwaiger }
16:53 PiMB damn mate!
16:53 PiMB don't paste here.
16:53 PiMB use http://t3paste.org/ or something
16:53 kraftb :/
16:53 PiMB bleeps are killing mee.
16:54 schwaiger puhu sorry dudes - here: http://paste.phlogi.net/-b37ed294bf/
16:54 schwaiger what is with "10.http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/5/7/.isTrue.field = page:media" wrong thats makes ma crazy
16:55 PiMB isn't the field property automatically looking in the page for it's values?
16:55 PiMB so media would suffice? instead of page:media
16:56 schwaiger field = media doestn works also
17:00 schwaiger ok found it..... too stupid.
17:00 schwaiger if.isTrue.field = field_head_image
17:18 TheEternalAbyss i'm having a navigation issue in IE
17:19 TheEternalAbyss Hey having an issue with IE. http://chriscastiglione.com/index.php?id=141. Apart from visual issues in IE7, I get a script error on the page when it comes to my navigation. This happens in IE8 and IE7 (I haven't tested for IE6 or earlier versions). I'm not sure why I'm getting the error. Basically, if you click on any submenu items in the vertical menu I get an error on line 94 of the page. It says object expected. How
17:19 TheEternalAbyss the navigation is generated by typo3
17:19 TheEternalAbyss it works in Chrome, Safari, and FF
17:21 Provito I'm loving typo3 today
17:22 Provito although I can't quite get my REGISTERS to work via the FCE's yet though
17:22 Provito I'm trying to avoid inline styles on my fce's and using registers to add to the <style> in the head
17:23 TheEternalAbyss i'm faaaar from loving typo3
17:24 many TheEternalAbyss: http://www.typo3forum.net/forum/typo3-4-x-fragen-probleme/31971-ie-7-kompatibilit-t-ie-8-a.html check the post by lindenallee
17:24 pmk65 TheEternalAbyss> I get errors on your page too. even in FireFox.
17:24 many and/or hensch
17:24 Provito TheEternalAbyss, I got an odd SSL error when visiting the page
17:25 Provito you have blurLink undefined
17:25 Provito disable blur on the menu
17:25 Provito config.noBlur=1
17:25 pmk65 that's the same i got. Also the layout of your menu is not correct. You have LI tags outside of the UL tag..
17:25 many i see the ssl error and clicking links is a bit sluggish (through flash, i assume), but aside from that it looks okay for me on firefox
17:26 Provito I think it's a combo, invalid HTML, odd SSL error and the blurLink function not found
17:26 Provito onfocus="blurLink(this);" Ensure this is removed
17:27 TheEternalAbyss yea the SSL issue is te hosts fault. it cause i'm using a different domain then what i told them i'd be using
17:28 Provito well you are referencing SSL in your head
17:28 pmk65 HTML errors -> http://pastie.org/850050
17:28 TheEternalAbyss many: not havign FF issues, it's with IE
17:29 Provito TheEternalAbyss, set the config.noBlur=1 yet ?
17:29 TheEternalAbyss getting there, Provito...I'm referencing SSL in my header???
17:29 Provito yep
17:29 TheEternalAbyss i'm going to have to look into my TS
17:30 Provito <link rel="shortcut icon" href="https://chriscastiglione.com/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" />
17:30 Provito as an example
17:31 TheEternalAbyss ohhhhh
17:31 TheEternalAbyss but don't i need that for the favicon to work?
17:31 Provito guys if you haven't already upgraded templavoila to trunk you must do, you can now edit the tsconfig within the fce's without it being lost the whole time
17:32 Provito and in typo3 4.3.2 external tsconfig files are re-read each time if you haven't set caching, awesome
17:32 Provito <link rel="shortcut icon" href="/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" />
17:32 Provito you already have the base href set
17:32 TheEternalAbyss k config.noBlur=1
17:32 Provito that's the one
17:33 TheEternalAbyss oh right..snap
17:33 TheEternalAbyss let me fix that then
17:33 Provito so much faster working with complex fce's now, I've got loads of tsconfig for each one
17:33 TheEternalAbyss ok fixed
17:34 Provito and not having to clear the cache or putting all the external tsconfig into the cms simply to edit it
17:34 Provito you've still got blurLink
17:34 Provito cleared cache?
17:34 Provito ensure your menu hasn't got the blur set
17:35 Provito in your TMENU set noBlur = 1
17:36 pmk65 and fix the structure of the menu so you don't get html errors. ;)
17:36 Provito and the beLayout is awesome as well, playing with it now
17:36 Provito just a shame you can't set for individual TO's just DS's
17:37 TheEternalAbyss k added no blur
17:37 TheEternalAbyss to the actual menu TS
17:37 TheEternalAbyss cleared cache
17:37 Provito ok still got it on the footerNav
17:37 Provito but not in the subNav now
17:38 TheEternalAbyss the blur?
17:38 Provito yeah
17:38 TheEternalAbyss let me look at footer TS
17:38 Provito check your footer menu
17:39 TheEternalAbyss k added the noblur in footer. it didn't have it
17:39 Provito and check in IE
17:39 TheEternalAbyss seems like IE things are working now
17:39 TheEternalAbyss IE 7 still gives me issues
17:40 TheEternalAbyss actually
17:40 pmk65 Provito: Try the SVN version of TemplaVoila, I think you can set layout in the TO section, (alos a lot of bugs have been fixed in the SVN version)
17:40 TheEternalAbyss scratch that
17:40 TheEternalAbyss the menu works now.
17:40 Provito pmk65 yeah? I've got trunk from yesterday
17:40 Provito cool
17:40 TheEternalAbyss it just looks God awful in IE7 but that's a CSS issue
17:41 TheEternalAbyss Provito. Thank youvery very much
17:41 Provito pmk65, I love the new TV fixes especially the tsconfig editing really good
17:41 Provito TheEternalAbyss, my pleasure
17:42 Provito having the TV's content elements look like they do on the page makes editable so much easier and natural
17:42 pmk65 invalid html usually screws up the layout in IE.
17:42 pmk65 and you still have 6 html errors in the UL/LI menu.
17:42 Provito having a footer container element in a column style wasn't particularly elegant but it worked
17:43 TheEternalAbyss yes, i need to fix the TS so it generates it correctly
17:43 TheEternalAbyss i'm just not quite sure how :\
17:44 pmk65 post your TS for the menu..
17:44 TheEternalAbyss k
17:44 TheEternalAbyss http://paste.phlogi.net/subnav/
17:45 pmk65 Usually it's because you need to use "wrapItemAndSub" if your ul/li is nested.
17:45 TheEternalAbyss oh i wasn't aware of "wrapitemAndSub"
17:46 TheEternalAbyss i would need that in the top subnav TS or the second one..or both?
17:46 pmk65 change the "linkWrap" into "wrapItemAndSub"
17:46 TheEternalAbyss ok
17:47 pmk65 that will create semantic corecct nesting
17:48 TheEternalAbyss k
17:50 TheEternalAbyss menu still doesn't look right in IE 7 tho
17:50 TheEternalAbyss they're overlapping
17:52 TheEternalAbyss and also in IE 8 :\
17:54 TheEternalAbyss damn....the wrapitemandsub broke my menu in firefox too!
17:54 TheEternalAbyss wow
17:55 TheEternalAbyss http://chriscastiglione.com/index.php?id=120 :(
17:58 TheEternalAbyss sorry, i'm going back to linkWrap since it worked with that
17:59 TheEternalAbyss at least mostly worked
17:59 TheEternalAbyss it still fails with IE7
18:00 TheEternalAbyss i'm going to lunch. be back soon
18:02 nd___ How can I output a page as json instead of html? I need content parts for ajax-loaded views...
18:02 ries anybody happen to know a good document management tool m would even be better to have it connected to typo3, but not really needed
18:39 pmk65 nd___: you could do something like this. (last part of the document) -> http://www.sharemation.com/typo3test/Creating%20a%20simple%20Infocenter%20using%20TYPO3.pdf
18:41 nd___ pmk65: I didn't copy/pasted it and tried but, but isn't that about page-reloads?
18:42 nd___ I need a seperate pagetype and some control over how my texts/images are outputted on that type
18:42 pmk65 yes, but the fetching of ajax data could be used for your needs too.
18:42 pmk65 I just did something similar for aplugin im working on.
18:43 pmk65 http://pmk.dk.srv3.t3t.dk/test/
18:43 TheEternalAbyss well i'm back
18:43 TheEternalAbyss no other ideas about the overlapping menus in IE?
18:43 pmk65 the content of each "tab" is loaded via ajax, using a separate pagetype
18:43 nd___ ok, so on type=500 you disabled headers and html...
18:44 nd___ pmk65: yes, that's pretty close to what I need, I guess
18:44 pmk65 yes, and output my data
18:45 nd___ Ok, so I'll try that later and will come back to you if I need more details
18:45 nd___ thank you very much so far
18:46 pmk65 here's a copy of my TS for that ext.
18:46 nd___ it's an ext?
18:46 nd___ I thought just TS
18:46 nd___ (plus JS of course)
18:46 pmk65 http://pmk.dk.srv3.t3t.dk/da/side-1/
18:47 pmk65 it's a 2 part ext. the 1st one is a DOM parser, that parses the HTML output and insert special tags around words found in the glossary.
18:47 pmk65 those tinks then opens up a titletip box (ajax based)
18:48 pmk65 tinks = links :D
18:48 nd___ hehe
18:48 nd___ alright
18:48 nd___ I don't need that
18:48 nd___ thanks!
18:49 pmk65 the titletips box is made in a similar way, with a separate pagetype.
18:50 pmk65 Separate pagetypes is useful if you need access to the full TSFE, or if you want to use cached data.
18:50 pmk65 otherwise you should look at the eID method which is farster if you just need to transfer data
18:51 nd___ hmm
18:51 nd___ I'd like to use cached-data
18:52 nd___ actually I'll use the same content once as ajax-loaded display and once static html
18:52 nd___ so I think seperate pagetype is fine
18:52 pmk65 an example of using the eID method. -> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/pmkfdl/current/
18:53 nd___ ok, if I don't get along with type I'll look into that
19:23 RS-232 HI all
19:24 RS-232 I created a backend user with access only to the FileList, I created a mount entry, assigned to him, but when this user logs in, when clicking on FileList, no tree structure is shown, any help please? thanks
19:28 RS-232 I created a backend user with access only to the FileList, I created a mount entry, assigned to him, but when this user logs in, when clicking on FileList, no tree structure is shown, any help please? thanks
19:37 RS-232 This remminds me why I left the nightmare of Typo3
19:37 TheEternalAbyss lol
19:38 TheEternalAbyss i feel your pain RS
19:38 RS-232 lack of documentation, lack of help
19:38 TheEternalAbyss sorry i can't help tho, i'm a typo3 noob of sorts
19:38 RS-232 TheEternalAbyss, no problem, I understand
19:38 TheEternalAbyss agreed on lacks
19:39 TheEternalAbyss would you know by chance why menu's would overlap in IE7 tho?
19:43 RS-232 TheEternalAbyss, honestly, I had the worst time in my life regarding Web programming with Typo3 on last year, trying to set up a Web, it cost me pain and blood, but I finally made it. The I sworn not to get back to Typo3 in my life. Since then I am very happy with Drupal, with 10 moudles written by my so far, and 5 webs up. The problem is that now that Web that I made with Typo3 needs some changes and I hade to get back to this Nightmare, so I don't remembe
19:43 RS-232 r anything that can help you, sorry
19:46 RS-232 I created a backend user with access only to the FileList, I created a mount entry, assigned to him, but when this user logs in, when clicking on FileList, no tree structure is shown, any help please? thanks
19:53 RS-232 I created a backend user with access only to the FileList, I created a mount entry, assigned to him, but when this user logs in, when clicking on FileList, no tree structure is shown, any help please? thanks
19:53 TheEternalAbyss have you gone into the permissions and looked those over?
19:53 TheEternalAbyss to make sure that those specific sections you want them to have access to are in fact defined in typo3 to allow them to access it
19:53 TheEternalAbyss i hope that made sense
19:55 TheEternalAbyss this is my first website using T3 and it's been like having my fingernails removed. It's been slow, and grueling. A lot of times, a simple one line change takes me hours because i have to find where it is in Typo3's template and data structure
19:55 RS-232 TheEternalAbyss, I created a mounting point, and assigned to the new user. The mounting point is /upload, I find no place in Typo3 where I can set permissions to that
19:55 TheEternalAbyss I still can't find one link I need to change :(
19:55 TheEternalAbyss hmm
19:55 RS-232 Basically I want to create a backend user that only havs access to something to upload files
19:56 RS-232 I kind of FT user but using the Backend
19:56 TheEternalAbyss which version are you using?
19:56 RS-232 Quixplorer don't knwo why, does not show up in the modules llist to assign to the user, so only FIlelist, which does not work
19:56 TheEternalAbyss hmm, wow yea i'm not sure
19:56 RS-232 4.2.1
19:57 RS-232 It's incredible that for doing such stupid thing I need to waste a week trying to figure out how this works
19:57 TheEternalAbyss yea i know
19:58 TheEternalAbyss have you looked at the access options?
19:58 RS-232 TheEternalAbyss, the access options only work for pages...but what about directories in the root folder?
20:00 RS-232 IN fact even I select for this user a mounting point , when saved, it does not keeps there, no filepoint mointing is shown
20:01 TheEternalAbyss you got me there...I would imagine it whould work the same for everything, folders or files
20:01 RS-232 ??
20:02 RS-232 Do you know why a certain user icon is green when other are blue?
20:02 RS-232 This user shows green colored, when others are blue
20:02 RS-232 perhaps there is the key
20:03 TheEternalAbyss there should be a key
20:03 TheEternalAbyss i haven't created users and such yet so i'm not too sure
20:08 RS-232 GUYS can you help us please?
20:08 TheEternalAbyss i wish i had the answer man
20:09 RS-232 TheEternalAbyss, yeah thanks, I wish somone of the 60 guys logged here could give us a hand
20:10 timdeluxe patience please :)
20:10 timdeluxe i could take a look into my installation
20:12 timdeluxe oh f*ck, i've to update...
20:12 RS-232 timdeluxe, ok thanks, I just want to create a backend user to access only to filelist and only to /upload folder
20:13 timdeluxe so. i think blue are admins and green are normal users
20:13 RS-232 OK, but I have created a backend user, I created a mounting point, I selected the mounting point to the user, saved, but no mounting point is shown to that user when listing, and when that users logs int, the file list is empty?
20:13 RS-232 I am going mad
20:15 RS-232 I don't want an admin user (with access to all), I just want a backend user with access only to fileist into a certain folder
20:15 RS-232 isn't this possible in Typo3?
20:15 TheEternalAbyss not sure. time, once youhelp RS, i wouldn't mind a lil help too :D
20:16 timdeluxe patience
20:16 timdeluxe please
20:16 timdeluxe ;)
20:17 RS-232 timdeluxe, understand us, there are very little occasions when someone listent to us and helps us in Typo3 ...so when that happens we get very exicited!
20:18 timdeluxe i didn't say i can help you, i am just looking what i've done to achieve it
20:18 RS-232 thanks a lot
20:21 timdeluxe so. did you give rights at "Fileoperation permissions" in the user/group config? like for example "Files: Upload,Copy,Move,Delete,Rename,New,Edit"
20:21 RS-232 timdeluxe, let me see that
20:22 RS-232 timdeluxe, yes, I have the first thre checkboxes set
20:22 RS-232 timdeluxe, the weird thing is that even I selected a mounting place in the "File Mounts" box, when listing the user, no filepoint is shown, ...like if it is not being stored ?=?=
20:23 RS-232 timdeluxe, however, if I set the user as "Admin", then "fileadmin" mounting point is assgned, and then it shows up
20:24 timdeluxe hm
20:25 RS-232 timdeluxe, also, Quixplores does not appear in the modules list that I can assign to this user....is this correct?
20:25 timdeluxe possibly not
20:25 timdeluxe where did you define the filemounts? i can see them when i look at the very root of my tree (world icon)
20:26 RS-232 timdeluxe, yeah, under LIST I see it in the root node of the tree
20:26 RS-232 Filemount(1)
20:26 RS-232 Lable:Upload
20:27 RS-232 Path: /upload
20:27 RS-232 absolute (root)
20:27 timdeluxe is the folder in the docroot folder or outside of it?
20:27 timdeluxe (docroot of webserver)
20:28 TheEternalAbyss timedeluxe: no worries, i'll be here, I can wait :)
20:28 RS-232 timdeluxe, the folder is under /var/www
20:28 RS-232 timdeluxe, but I tried with fileadmin/ and the same bad result
20:29 RS-232 somoehow only admins get something when accessing the filelist module
20:32 timdeluxe so i think i also had problems with folders with absolute pathes
20:32 timdeluxe folders relative to fileadmin are running good
20:32 RS-232 timdeluxe, but with fileadmin it does not work either
20:32 RS-232 timdeluxe, and why QuickXplorer does not show up in the modules list when creating a backend user?
20:33 timdeluxe wait, i'll install that extension
20:33 RS-232 ok
20:33 timdeluxe but first i'll update
20:33 RS-232 ok thanks
20:33 timdeluxe 4.3.0 is quiet outdated
20:35 RS-232 well mine is 4.2.1
20:43 timdeluxe correct, quixplorer does not show up
20:43 RS-232 timdeluxe, is that normal?
20:43 RS-232 I give up
20:43 timdeluxe i think so, because i think quixplorer works very basic
20:44 RS-232 I can not make the file mounting point show up in the filelist for the user I created
20:44 RS-232 I tried everything
20:44 RS-232 4 hours so far
20:44 timdeluxe i think the developer didn't have the time to make it configurable so he restricted it to the admin
20:44 RS-232 ok, I just need filelist to show a file mounting point to a backend user
20:44 timdeluxe did you take a look into the database?
20:44 RS-232 timdeluxe, no, what you mean?
20:45 timdeluxe table sys_filemounts
20:45 RS-232 let me see
20:45 timdeluxe i also recommend to work with groups and just assign them to the user
20:46 timdeluxe but that shouldnt be a must
20:46 RS-232 timdeluxe, I already made a group called FTP, with the right file mounting point, and assigned to the user...but nothing the same
20:47 RS-232 id pid tstamp title path base hidden deleted
20:47 RS-232 1 0 1267559648 Upload /user_upload 1 0 0
20:47 RS-232 that's what I have in the table, which is correct
20:48 timdeluxe but you can't see taht user_upload? hm...
20:48 timdeluxe i mean in the user's config
20:48 RS-232 wtf? looking at be_users there are two FTP users,
20:49 RS-232 ah ok, one has "deleted" set to 1
20:49 RS-232 file_mountpoints
20:49 RS-232 is empty
20:49 RS-232 ???
20:49 RS-232 I am sick and tired of selectign the file point into that crazy box, but is does not store
20:50 RS-232 no no sorry, that is the deleted one, there is a "1" set there
20:51 RS-232 well at this point everything seems to be correct
20:51 timdeluxe hm, i cant reproduce it here... i can offer you a VNC session on a private chat if you want
20:52 RS-232 but, can you create a backend user and assign only filelist?
20:52 timdeluxe let me check
20:53 RS-232 wtf? I got it now
20:53 RS-232 I see the files there
20:53 RS-232 I don't understand what is going on,
20:53 RS-232 ok
20:53 timdeluxe let me guess: cleared cache? ;D
20:53 RS-232 no
20:53 RS-232 worse even
20:53 RS-232 When you edit the filemount
20:54 RS-232 it's not enough, you have to go back to the user and selecte again the filemount and save
20:54 RS-232 ¿?
20:55 timdeluxe thats not normal
20:55 timdeluxe just update to 4.3.2... it doesn't hurt and gives you newest bugfixes
20:56 timdeluxe who knows which little tiny bugs are there in 4.2
20:56 RS-232 timdeluxe, I am really scared of updating, I don't want to screw the web, it took me pain and blood to finish it
20:56 timdeluxe make a backup :D
20:57 TheEternalAbyss speaking of pain and blood...
20:57 RS-232 still does not work with absolute paths though
20:58 timdeluxe a backup costs me 2 lines on the shell. if you use a webhoster, he should provide something like that
20:59 RS-232 well
20:59 TheEternalAbyss http://chriscastiglione.com/index.php?id=141 <-- menus overlap in IE7 :\
20:59 timdeluxe IE7 SUCKS
20:59 RS-232 :)
20:59 timdeluxe i have a website with perfect css definitions
20:59 timdeluxe a background centered
21:00 timdeluxe EVERY browser centers it
21:00 timdeluxe ie 6, ie 8, fifo, safari, only this sucky ie 7 moves it 5 pixels to the left
21:00 timdeluxe WTF?
21:00 RS-232 My web is W3C validated, XHTML and CSS...evryone shows it correctly, even Safari in my iPhone.....except................IE :)
21:00 timdeluxe just dont care for ie7, it is only used in big companies like mine
21:01 timdeluxe everyone else uses 8 or fifo
21:01 RS-232 :)
21:01 RS-232 Chrome here in Debian :)
21:01 RS-232 the fstest one when JS
21:01 timdeluxe at least that shows my own little poll
21:02 TheEternalAbyss yea but i need to make the site work with ie8, FF, Ie7, chrome and safari (and opera)
21:02 TheEternalAbyss it works on all of them
21:02 TheEternalAbyss except IE7
21:03 TheEternalAbyss my boss uses IE7 and i doubt he'll listen to me and update to 8
21:03 timdeluxe i am bad in css, sorry
21:03 TheEternalAbyss it's a TS issue i think
21:03 TheEternalAbyss cause it's how it's generating the menus in IE7
21:04 RS-232 FILELIST does not work for root ??? SO why is the absolute base option there????
21:05 TheEternalAbyss it was suggested i use "wrapitemAndSub"
21:05 TheEternalAbyss i'm using linkWrap
21:05 TheEternalAbyss but if I use wrapitemAndSub, the menus overlap in every browser :(
21:05 TheEternalAbyss so that didn't help
21:06 RS-232 Quixplorer DOES
21:06 RS-232 FIleList doesn't
21:06 TheEternalAbyss on that page, the menu items behind the grey ones should be under Products and above the other grey items
21:07 RS-232 there should be an option I think to set this up
21:07 RS-232 Where can I configure the modules?
21:08 timdeluxe extension manager
21:08 timdeluxe but some are typo3 core
21:09 RS-232 Quicxplorer can show from the very root, but filelist cant', there should be a place where to set this up
21:09 RS-232 I GOT IT
21:10 RS-232 Admin Tools>Configuration>TYPO VARS>BE>fileadmin
21:10 RS-232 but I think that if I change this I will screw up the rest of thinks
21:10 timdeluxe quixplorer is just a simple php filebrowser. dont count too much on it
21:11 TheEternalAbyss speaking of vars
21:12 TheEternalAbyss how do I modify tt_content?
21:12 TheEternalAbyss I need to change a record in there
21:12 RS-232 So basically in TYPO3 a backend user can only upload files to "fileadmin" folder...
21:12 RS-232 what a sad thing
21:13 timdeluxe TheEternalAbyss: just use the page module? ;)
21:13 TheEternalAbyss the page module?
21:13 TheEternalAbyss what i'm looking for doesn't seem to be in there
21:14 TheEternalAbyss specifically this is what i need
21:14 timdeluxe database?
21:14 TheEternalAbyss i don't know how
21:14 TheEternalAbyss to get into the databse
21:15 timdeluxe phpmyadmin?
21:15 timdeluxe its also available as typo3 extension
21:15 TheEternalAbyss yea the database. They are using this: lib.language = RECORDS
21:15 TheEternalAbyss lib.language.tables = tt_content
21:16 TheEternalAbyss lib.language.source = 139
21:16 timdeluxe whaaa, languages *running away*
21:16 timdeluxe *G*
21:16 TheEternalAbyss that source has out of date/incorrect information
21:16 TheEternalAbyss lol
21:16 RS-232 I give up
21:16 TheEternalAbyss yea I need to deal with that next week
21:16 RS-232 ok
21:16 RS-232 what about installing more languages to the web?
21:16 RS-232 is it complicated? Do I need to spend 2987394873294 weeks to achieve it?
21:16 TheEternalAbyss no not installing languages
21:17 TheEternalAbyss well it's a pain in the ass
21:17 RS-232 I have the web in English, I want to offer it in Spanish, French and Chinese
21:17 TheEternalAbyss there's some tutorials out there, but i followed them and they still don't work so i gave up for now
21:17 timdeluxe seriously: languages are not that difficult in typo3
21:17 TheEternalAbyss how do i change that record, or look at it
21:17 timdeluxe only when you have to hide certain pages or need special fallbacks... for that i recommend languagevisibility
21:18 RS-232 timdeluxe, are you serious? setting up a backend user to upload some files took us all 5 hours, and no success....I don't want even to imagen installing am ulti langiuages site with this :)
21:18 timdeluxe TheEternalAbyss : database table tt_content, uid 139 i think :)
21:18 timdeluxe languages are easier than fileadmin stuff, i promise
21:18 RS-232 ok, I hope so :)
21:19 TheEternalAbyss where would database be?
21:19 TheEternalAbyss i have version 4.2.10 by the way
21:19 soee where can i clear realurl cache ?
21:19 timdeluxe TheEternalAbyss: localhost? ;D
21:20 TheEternalAbyss you mean i need to go into phpmyadmin
21:20 TheEternalAbyss ?
21:20 timdeluxe TheEternalAbyss: update at least to 4.2.12, there are only security fixes
21:20 TheEternalAbyss and edit the db manually?
21:20 timdeluxe soee: you can truncate the database tables or your realurl management extension
21:20 TheEternalAbyss it's the hosts version, I'm not privvy to updating their sofwtare
21:21 timdeluxe TheEternalAbyss: i don't know that special thing you are using there, so if you can't achieve it by typo3 go to the database
21:21 timdeluxe privvy?
21:22 soee timdeluxe: where exactly i cant find it :/
21:22 timdeluxe what? the database tables or the extension?
21:22 TheEternalAbyss privaledged
21:22 TheEternalAbyss don't have permission
21:23 milpoer hi there.. have updated my t3 from 4.2.12 -> 4.3.2 and now my backend do not work, i can login/out, but cannot do anything.. I have runned the update wizard, and everything seems allright.. any hints ??
21:23 RS-232 chinese, mmm
21:23 TheEternalAbyss i mean i could update it, but then if things don't work I can't b*tch at my host :D
21:23 RS-232 that would be really difficult
21:24 timdeluxe milpoer: yep, let me think asecond
21:24 timdeluxe had the same issue
21:24 milpoer =)
21:25 timdeluxe ah yep: clear the webbrowsers cache
21:25 milpoer done
21:25 timdeluxe now try again
21:26 milpoer :) have tried a new browser.. that work.. sorry to distub.. error 40..
21:27 timdeluxe 40what?
21:29 milpoer error 40.. 40 cm from the keybord :)
21:29 TheEternalAbyss ARRRRRRRGH
21:29 TheEternalAbyss this is driving me mad
21:31 timdeluxe milpoer: ah ok, osi layer 8
21:31 milpoer osi layer 8 ??
21:31 timdeluxe milpoer: forget it
21:31 milpoer :)
21:31 timdeluxe one day you will find out
21:31 milpoer ok..
21:32 TheEternalAbyss i can't find the links
21:32 TheEternalAbyss i have no idea where they are defined
21:32 TheEternalAbyss the top two links
21:32 TheEternalAbyss chriscastiglione.com
21:32 TheEternalAbyss help plz :(
21:32 milpoer timdeluxe: had to google it :) funny.. never heard it before.. :)
21:34 timdeluxe TheEternalAbyss: depends on the templating mechanism you are using
21:35 TheEternalAbyss i'm using templavoila
21:36 TheEternalAbyss in the source they are in the div container boright
21:36 RS-232 Typo3 is sucking my life
21:36 TheEternalAbyss but i have no idea where that is defined
21:36 TheEternalAbyss i son't see t in the template
21:36 TheEternalAbyss it's not in the TS
21:36 TheEternalAbyss i'm lost
21:37 timdeluxe then it is set in the html file which is loaded into TV
21:38 TheEternalAbyss i saw that html file. I changed it but nothing happened
21:38 RS-232 timdeluxe, any good tutorial for multi languages sites? thanks man
21:38 timdeluxe TheEternalAbyss: then go to templavoila module and update mappings
21:38 milpoer RS-232: what is the problem ? I have just had some issues my self.. perhaps i can help
21:39 timdeluxe RS-232: http://typo3.org/documentation/tips-tricks/multi-language-sites-in-typo3/ a bit outdated, but the basic principles are still working
21:39 RS-232 milpoer, yeah, well, now the issue has been solved so far with the help of timdeluxe fortunately
21:39 RS-232 milpoer, thanks man, now I want to turn my site to a multilanguages onw
21:39 RS-232 *one
21:40 RS-232 timdeluxe, thanks
21:40 milpoer ok.. create alternative language and start translating..
21:41 RS-232 milpoer, sounds easy in just a few words.. :=)
21:41 milpoer RS-232: i think its quite easy..
21:41 milpoer i can show you..
21:41 milpoer do you have teamviewer ?
21:41 RS-232 milpoer, I am reading now the tutorial, so far, it sounds easy
21:42 milpoer ok :)
21:42 RS-232 milpoer, a teamviewer? what's that?
21:42 milpoer thats a remote desktop like applikation.. www.teamviewer.com
21:42 RS-232 ah ok, I don't
21:43 milpoer ok.. its free for non-commercial use.
21:43 RS-232 what about chinese and arabig?
21:43 RS-232 the char set is differente
21:43 RS-232 ?
21:43 RS-232 My site wil have english, spanish, german, french, chinese and arabig
21:43 RS-232 the last two I think will give some pain to implemente
21:43 milpoer yes.. if you use utf-8 as charset, arabig should not give troubles.. i have made once before.
21:44 RS-232 and chinese?
21:44 milpoer don't know about chinese.. but the force of utf-8 should be this..
21:44 timdeluxe *handing over RS-232 to milpoer* :D
21:44 RS-232 ok, I wil investigate this
21:44 milpoer timdeluxe: :) no problem.. just watching two and a half men.. :)
21:45 timdeluxe i am watching USFO +G+
21:46 TheEternalAbyss the mappings seem to be fine
21:47 timdeluxe TheEternalAbyss: yep, but only when you do update mappings and just save the edits to the html file are recognized
21:48 RS-232 where the flasg show up?
21:50 milpoer RS-232: dont understand.
21:50 timdeluxe RS-232: frontend or backend?
21:50 RS-232 fronted
21:50 RS-232 the languages flags
21:50 RS-232 that I have defined when creating web languages
21:51 timdeluxe you have to put them by yourself into the template
21:51 RS-232 mmm
21:52 timdeluxe use one of the thousands switchers: http://www.google.de/search?q=typo3+language+switcher
21:52 RS-232 timdeluxe, mmm... not bad for something such TYpo3 ....
21:52 RS-232 :)
21:53 timdeluxe or http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?tx_terfe_pi1[view]=search&no_cache=1&tx_terfe_pi1[sword]=language+menu
21:53 nd___ ok, if I don't get along with type I'll look into that
21:54 TheEternalAbyss the links int he template are correct
21:54 TheEternalAbyss but typo3 doesn't use those links
21:54 TheEternalAbyss they're just html that it disregards
21:55 timdeluxe updated mapping?
21:55 timdeluxe saved?
21:55 timdeluxe cleared cache?
21:55 milpoer RS-232: have to leave now.. but ping me later if you need help...
21:56 RS-232 many thanks man
21:58 TheEternalAbyss ......
21:58 TheEternalAbyss yea forgot to clear cache
21:58 TheEternalAbyss omg
21:58 TheEternalAbyss finally
21:58 TheEternalAbyss thank you very very very much
21:58 TheEternalAbyss links updated
21:59 timdeluxe first rule of typo3: clear cache
21:59 timdeluxe 2nd rule of typo3: clear cache
21:59 timdeluxe 3rd rule.... *g*
22:00 TheEternalAbyss lol
22:00 TheEternalAbyss you're right
22:00 TheEternalAbyss you're absolutely right
22:04 timdeluxe it saves you a lot of troubleshooting
22:04 timdeluxe especially after updates
22:20 remapam hi everybody. i created a website some days ago on a test server. now i want to switch that site to the productive server. its the same webhoster. any tips or tools which could make my life easier to perform the switch? :)
22:22 RS-232 tranlation made
22:22 RS-232 so now what should I do? insert one of those Languages Selectors and that't it?
22:24 timdeluxe remapam: tar, ftp, myadmin, vi :)
22:25 timdeluxe RS-232: i would first check it by simply adding the langvars to the url
22:25 RS-232 timdeluxe, langvars?
22:25 timdeluxe ?L=1 for example
22:26 timdeluxe depends on the language id
22:26 RS-232 ah ok, let's see
22:27 RS-232 http://www.innerspec.com/index.php?L=1
22:28 timdeluxe english as far as i can see :)
22:28 RS-232 1 is spanish, and nothing happens, but I have all the translations done
22:29 timdeluxe did you set up typoscript fot that?
22:29 timdeluxe [globalVar = GP:L.... and so on
22:29 RS-232 :)
22:35 remapam sry i did hit the X button :( my fault...were there some messages regarding to my question?
22:35 SargoDarya111117 Heya chan, is it possible to just get the path to the image back in tt_news?
22:37 timdeluxe remapam: yes :)
22:38 remapam could you plz copy paste them :)
22:38 timdeluxe timdeluxe: remapam: tar, ftp, myadmin, vi :)
22:38 timdeluxe it was a bit joking
22:39 timdeluxe it hugely depends on your hoster, your skills, your tools
22:39 timdeluxe you should take care for TS configuration
22:39 timdeluxe especially config.baseURL if you are using it
22:39 remapam ok. what do you think about http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/agprjmgm/current/ ??
22:40 remapam the problem is: i have like 3 extensions installed
22:40 remapam and i want to switch the whole typo3 enviroment incl. settings and extensions to the new server...like i said: its the same webhoster same webpacket
22:42 RS-232 mmm. page title changes, but not the content, weird
22:44 timdeluxe remapam: that should be no problem
22:45 timdeluxe just transfer all your files and a complete database export
22:45 timdeluxe your extensions are in typo3conf, so they should move also
22:46 timdeluxe argh.
22:47 timdeluxe signed off. remapam, come back and don't use java *G*
22:48 RS-232 only the page title changes, the content doesn't. I translated every element in the page into its version to spanish, saved, everything correct. I edited the template to add the languages, which seems to work, since the title changes, but the content of the page remains in English
22:50 RS-232 [globalVar = GP:L = 2]
22:50 RS-232 config.sys_language_uid = 2
22:50 RS-232 config.language = de
22:50 RS-232 that's for german
22:50 RS-232 the same for spanish that is uid=1
22:53 timdeluxe RS-232: cleared cache? ;D
22:55 RS-232 yep, but nothing
22:55 RS-232 also tried:
22:55 RS-232 #config.locale_all = es to #config.locale_all = es_ES
22:55 RS-232 nothing
22:55 RS-232 just the title of the page changes
22:56 timdeluxe and you also translated the content?
22:56 RS-232 timdeluxe, yes of course
22:57 RS-232 I can see the default content and the spanosh flag on every element of the page
22:59 timdeluxe hmhmhm
22:59 timdeluxe no idea
22:59 timdeluxe only page title sounds strange
22:59 RS-232 timdeluxe, http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5920/screenshotvr.png
23:01 timdeluxe RS-232: yeah, gnome :D looks alright
23:04 TheEternalAbyss k guys i'm off for today. I may be back since i plan on working on my site at home but we'll see
23:05 TheEternalAbyss bye for now
23:07 RS-232 well, followed all ther instructions, reviews 3 times, and I don't fined the issue, anyway, as I thought, nothing is easy with Typo3 :)
23:08 SargoDarya111117 So still I have the question about tt_news
23:11 timdeluxe RS-232: what about locale_all?
23:11 timdeluxe ah
23:11 timdeluxe you wrote it above
23:12 RS-232 I commented it out
23:12 RS-232 I will try with config.sys_language_overlay = hideNonTranslated
23:12 timdeluxe what about changing config.language to "es" in the spanish TS part
23:12 RS-232 that is the only think that I have to used yet
23:12 timdeluxe understand the not sentence i
23:12 timdeluxe *g*
23:13 timdeluxe +did
23:13 RS-232 yeah I tried es and es_ES but nothing
23:13 RS-232 I am looking at another tutorial, and it almost tells what I did
23:14 RS-232 weird
23:14 RS-232 with config.sys_language_overlay = hideNonTranslated nothing is displayed now when in Spanish
23:14 RS-232 so no content defined for that language, ...although I translated it as you've seen in my screenshoot
23:15 timdeluxe yep
23:16 timdeluxe strange
23:16 RS-232 Just one question, when I was cloning the fields to translate them into Spanish, they all were started with a string like: [Translate this into Spanish] I removed all of them...shoudl they stay or something?
23:16 timdeluxe no, you can remove it
23:16 timdeluxe else it will show up in frontend: not good ;)
23:18 timdeluxe very strange. i am supporting a page with 5 languages and making excessive use of languagevisibility... but i never saw such situation
23:18 RS-232 and I did this in the same page where the default language is...but the tutorial I am looking at is saying somethign about creating a new page for the translation?
23:18 timdeluxe url of the tut?
23:19 RS-232 Alternative Page Language
23:19 RS-232 http://huuah.com/multi-language-setup-in-typo3/
23:19 SargoDarya111117 Does someone know how to get back only the path of tt_news image ?
23:19 RS-232 I mean, I created a clone of every element in the same default page, and translated them into Spanish ..but in the Tuto says something about creating an Alternative Language Page?
23:20 timdeluxe that is the alternative way
23:20 timdeluxe but your way is completely okay
23:22 timdeluxe there is an option in install tool. wait i will take a look
23:22 RS-232 ok thanks
23:22 SargoDarya111117 RS-232 you need to create a new language on the global node
23:23 RS-232 SargoDarya111117, you mean in the template?
23:24 timdeluxe SargoDarya111117: i think he did that, or else he wouldnt be able to create a page translation
23:24 SargoDarya111117 Ouh, well.. then you need to create a Typoscript Template
23:25 timdeluxe he also did that... his page title translates
23:25 RS-232 yeah, also the language selection seems to work, because when I select spanish, the page title switches to spanish, but only the title, not the content (elements) which are translated as well
23:25 SargoDarya111117 That sounds weird...
23:25 RS-232 yep
23:25 timdeluxe SargoDarya111117: that's what i meant with "strange" ;D
23:26 RS-232 I reviewed everything 5 times so far, and I don't find anything wrong
23:27 RS-232 oh
23:27 RS-232 look at: http://www.innerspec.com/index.php?L=1
23:27 RS-232 title, and header changes
23:28 RS-232 no content
23:28 RS-232 because the elements are inside flexible content
23:28 timdeluxe could you show us your complete TS? (perhaps anonymised)
23:28 RS-232 perhaps that is the problem
23:28 RS-232 what do you think?
23:28 RS-232 try:
23:28 RS-232 http://www.innerspec.com/index.php
23:28 RS-232 and
23:28 RS-232 http://www.innerspec.com/index.php?L=1
23:28 RS-232 you will see how it changes (title and header from english to spanish)
23:28 RS-232 but for spanish the elements vanish
23:29 timdeluxe hm, dont think so, as long as the content is pure tt_content
23:33 RS-232 here you go: http://pastebin.com/gTRtrrpX
23:36 timdeluxe ok, your configuration for the default language is missing
23:37 RS-232 timdeluxe, it was en_US
23:37 timdeluxe ah there
23:37 timdeluxe it's late, sorry ;D
23:37 timdeluxe activate it again
23:37 timdeluxe it is not wrong
23:37 RS-232 which works, because when you don't use L in the URL you get the english one, right?
23:37 timdeluxe yeah, but you have to set it to get typo3 differing the languages
23:38 RS-232 ok I'll try
23:39 timdeluxe ahhh
23:39 RS-232 I enabled:
23:39 RS-232 config.sys_language_uid = 0
23:39 RS-232 config.language = en
23:39 RS-232 config.locale_all = en_US
23:39 RS-232 config.no_cache = 0
23:39 RS-232 but still the same, no content,
23:39 timdeluxe i also recommend setting a sys_language_mode
23:39 RS-232 (cleared caches too)
23:39 timdeluxe aaaand
23:39 timdeluxe you need to edit TV too
23:39 RS-232 no please, TV no..
23:40 RS-232 what is sys_language_mode?
23:40 timdeluxe yeah, wait till i find it in english
23:44 RS-232 ah ok :)
23:44 timdeluxe this is a messy one: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TemplaVoila#TemplaVoila_working_with_multiple_languages
23:44 timdeluxe which language is your natural one?
23:45 RS-232 the web natural one is English
23:46 RS-232 wow, that does now appear in all the tutorial I saw
23:46 RS-232 so I have to add everything?
23:46 timdeluxe no, i meant YOUR language ;D
23:46 RS-232 Spanish
23:46 timdeluxe ah si comprende
23:47 RS-232 :)
23:47 timdeluxe let me read a german one to give you just the things you need
23:47 RS-232 ah ok
23:48 timdeluxe so you have to set this block, but the values have different meaning:
23:48 timdeluxe <meta type="array">
23:48 timdeluxe <langChildren type="integer">[0|1]</langChildren>
23:48 timdeluxe <langDisable type="integer">[0|1]</langDisable>
23:48 timdeluxe </meta>
23:48 timdeluxe place it where the wiki says it
23:49 RS-232 ok
23:49 timdeluxe 1-0 gives you a language fallback
23:50 timdeluxe only langDisable = 1 -> for container elements
23:51 RS-232 mmm
23:51 RS-232 why this was so easy in the other tutorials?
23:51 timdeluxe i have langdisable = 1 BUT i am using languagevisibility extension, which is a special case
23:51 timdeluxe cause they are old and not using TV possibly
23:52 timdeluxe wiki is funny: "Clear all cache, take a big dictionnary, 2 liters of coffee and translate ;-)"
23:53 RS-232 ha ha ha
23:53 timdeluxe here is another english one: http://dmitry-dulepov.com/article/creating-multilanguage-sites-with-templavoila.html
23:54 timdeluxe now i have to say bye
23:54 timdeluxe its late and i need sleep
23:54 RS-232 thanks a LOT
23:54 RS-232 I really appreciate it man
23:54 timdeluxe i which you much luck with your language problem ;)
23:55 RS-232 ha ha
23:55 RS-232 I will fix it
23:55 RS-232 thatnks again
23:55 RS-232 good night
23:55 timdeluxe give help to others if they need, thats how community works ;)
23:55 timdeluxe and change to a parallel interface than doing everything serial *ggg*
23:56 RS-232 ok, thanks
23:56 timdeluxe hope you got the joke ;) byyyyyeeee
23:57 RS-232 :)

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