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00:12 bruce_lee4711 does the following url help you?
00:12 bruce_lee4711 http://www.besthostratings.com/articles/force-ssl-htaccess.html
00:13 ironm great! .. thank you very much bruce_lee4711 :-)
00:14 bruce_lee4711 you're welcome
00:15 ironm I am not very familiar with the syntax of Rewriting now .. will have to read a bit about ;-)
00:25 ironm bruce_lee4711: this link is also quite nice: http://www.askapache.com/2006/htaccess/apache-ssl-in-htaccess-examples.html
00:40 bruce_lee4711 its too complicated and too late in the night for me to understand the content of that site
00:41 ironm what time is it at your location bruce_lee4711 ?
00:44 ironm bruce_lee4711: .. I see .. probably HH ;-)
00:51 bruce_lee4711 its 1.11 in germany
00:52 ironm like in Switzerland ;-)
08:37 EugenA why do i need the typoscript?
08:38 EugenA another systems have API and i work with it using PHP. So i'm working with system using well known language - php
08:38 EugenA so, why typoscript?
08:55 neoneye "Shortcut to page" .. is there a way to control it via a userfunc ?
08:55 neoneye can I overwrite shortcut from typoscript ?
08:57 neoneye the problem is that I have a menu that excludes items depending on the session state
08:57 neoneye one of the pages that are excluded have a shortcut pointing to it
08:58 neoneye instead it should point to another page
09:06 maholtz|WORK morning
09:23 Denyerec2 Mornin all
09:29 Prot0 morning
10:32 EugenA hi, why do i need TS?
10:36 aterriblechaos EugenA: as a simple configuration language, http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Ts45min#Why_TypoScript.3F explains it quite well
10:39 EugenA aterriblechaos: ok.. other cms have API functions which i can access with php and so i have the full power, the cms has
10:40 EugenA aterriblechaos: if i understand right, TS is almost the same?
10:41 aterriblechaos EugenA: when beginning with typoscript i thought the same way, i did not like ts and the overall need of learning a new language for doing the same things as in php
10:42 EugenA yes
10:42 aterriblechaos but then i got used to ts and its syntax, and now i really like it. you can allways use plain php and typo3 apis in extensions or simple scripts when needet
10:42 SargoDarya mornin
10:43 EugenA ok, i see
10:44 aterriblechaos ts isnt really a api, it is just a configuration language. same way as sendmail or other programs are using a configuration language
10:46 Rixie Hi - is there anyone who please has a good link to a usermanual for poll?
10:51 Rixie (if it is in Danish - it is not a problem ;) )
10:52 Prot0 hmm
10:52 Prot0 bugtracker down :-(
10:56 FloLeBlanc hi all
10:56 FloLeBlanc anyone experienced with RealURL + tt_news?
10:57 SargoDarya FloLeBlanc: What's your question?
10:58 FloLeBlanc I can't get it to work. RealURL is installed and working (except for tt_news), I took the snippet from tt_news as recommended in the manual and copied the config to localconf.php - no change
10:58 Prot0 erm
10:58 Prot0 i thinks theres something with a default configuration that you need to disable
10:59 FloLeBlanc in RealURL?
11:00 FloLeBlanc ah
11:00 FloLeBlanc you are right - thank you
11:00 FloLeBlanc didn't think of that
11:03 Denyerec2 Did I miss eugenA asking about why he needs TS?
11:03 Denyerec2 I think I did :(
11:03 Denyerec2 My response "Because it kicks the shit out of any of the other CMS configuration methods" would have gone down a storm.
11:04 Denyerec2 (big fan of TS)
11:05 poioop hello. i need to set a mark in an existing typo3 system. i would like to fill this mark only on one page. pthe page is including a heckload of templates from different places. what would be the safest way of doing it?
11:07 FloLeBlanc Denyerec: you are a big fan of a gigantic php array? :)
11:12 Rixie Does not anyone have a user manual for poll? Please?
11:12 FloLeBlanc hmm it works now but I have an /archive part in the url allthough the news entry is NOT an archive
11:14 poioop .. is it possible to tell typo3 via ts to fill some text say right after the body tag *whithout* using the marks
11:15 FloLeBlanc page.20.sometext = TEXT page.20.sometext.value = this is a test should work - shouldn't it?
11:15 poioop but page is instantiated in some of the root templates
11:16 FloLeBlanc so?
11:16 poioop if page.20 is defined somewhere else, wouldnt that collide?
11:16 FloLeBlanc yes it would, choose a number you don't have
11:16 FloLeBlanc page.777 :)
11:17 poioop ok, ill give that a try. what is the highest number for these sub ids?
11:17 FloLeBlanc I think they don't even have to be numbers if I remember correct
11:19 FloLeBlanc but perhaps a more experienced user could comment on that - I'm not 100% sure
12:10 nd___ Is there a better way to use ajax in extbase extensions than to use a second plugin on a different typenum? I need to return json, no html... but I can't access the TS and/or flexform values from the second plugin
12:35 influenjaa Hi. Im using tt_news plugin. I installed it, created 2 example news, added News settings, News CSS-styles to "Include static (from ext.)" but im getting this error: No singlePid defined
12:35 influenjaa Google.com doesnt give me nothing to this...
12:38 FloLeBlanc did you define a singlePid? :)
12:38 FloLeBlanc you can set it in the plugin when you include it on the page or in TS
12:40 FloLeBlanc it's under: pagecontent - edit - Plugin - Other Settings - PageId for single news display
12:42 influenjaa ah damn, newbie with typo3 :)
12:43 influenjaa there should be somekind of manual book that says - singlePid = Page ID nr.
12:44 nd___ Actually I'd guess that's in the tt_news manual
12:51 influenjaa The quality for Typo3 support from googling is very low...
12:52 nd___ Nah, you just have to get used to the keywords :)
12:52 nd___ but try to read the manual first...
12:52 influenjaa I did :D
12:53 influenjaa I quess im so used with php support
12:54 influenjaa i quess if it were php cmd, id wrote singlePid to the search engine in php.org and get examples, description and all other good things :)
12:55 nd___ Search for it in the tt_news manual and you'll get a description
12:55 nd___ pid might not be explained because page-ids are everywhere
13:09 kevinmo hi
13:09 Conic hi
13:10 Conic i cannot update to templavoila 1.4.2 :(
13:10 Conic in the extension manager i see that there's an update, but if i click it, i can only select the current version to update to...
13:11 Conic does someone have a hint for me how to update to the newest version?
13:11 kevinmo load the t3x from http://typo3.org/extensions/repository
13:12 kevinmo direct link: http://typo3.org/fileadmin/ter/t/e/templavoila_1.4.2.t3x
13:12 Conic is an idea :D
13:12 Conic any reason for that being unable to select it?
13:13 kevinmo don;t know you could remove the extmanager cache files and refetch the list
13:14 Conic where are they stored?
13:14 kevinmo typo3temp folder
13:14 kevinmo extensions.xml.gz in typo3temp
13:16 neoneye ext_tables.php for type == input.. is there an option to get a multi line textfield ?
13:16 kevinmo use type text
13:17 neoneye aha.. thanks.. will try
13:17 kevinmo http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_api/4.2.0/view/4/2/#id4271358
13:17 Conic still the same.. :?
13:18 kevinmo Conic try to empty the cache_extensions table
13:18 neoneye kevinmo: excellent link
13:22 webonaut I found a ifif (defined('E_DEPRECATED')) { in the index.php, but where should this constant be set?
13:22 webonaut how can i overwrite this constant, the index.php does not load anything before
13:24 FloLeBlanc Can someone aid me on how to remove the /article and/or /archive part from the url with tt_news and real_url?
13:36 influenjaa could somebody recommend a gallery ext.?
13:37 influenjaa there are about 50 of them :) its a bit difficult to pick one if i just started using typo3
13:45 webonaut how can i run typo3 on php 5.3
13:54 FloLeBlanc influenjaa: I use jm_gallery but don't think it's too user friendly so perhaps check another for the start (49 left)
14:01 SargoDarya webonaut: You should ask ironm if he comes online. He has some SERIOUS knowledge after he fiddled around with T3 on PHP5 for the last month xD
14:08 Conic where's the problem??
14:08 nd__ webonaut: how not? It just runs :)
14:08 Conic i'm running t3 with php 5.3 since it's out, no problem
14:08 webonaut no it doesn't i get a lot of exceptions because of ereg
14:08 webonaut it depends on the extensions you have installed
14:08 nd__ that might be true...
14:09 webonaut it should work with ereg, but for some reason i get those deprecated messages
14:09 SargoDarya webonaut: ironm told me he had to replace ereg_replace with preg_replace
14:10 webonaut in error_reporting it is deactivated with ^ E_DEPRECATED
14:10 SargoDarya You should replace it even if it's not showing up
14:10 webonaut SargoDarya: yes, but I won't just replace something all over typo3, I wana have a updateable not changed typo3
14:10 SargoDarya Simple for the sake of performance
14:11 Conic but this is no typo3 related issue. typo3 doesn't use deprecated functions anymore. it's just the extensions you have installed that are not up to date yet...
14:11 webonaut Conic: of corse...
14:11 SargoDarya webonaut: Typo3 is 5.3 proof
14:11 SargoDarya webonaut: Only issues are with extensions
14:12 nd__ webonaut: then just go ahead, change all the functions to preg_replace (also check the regex itself), mail the diff to the developer of the extension and use it till he fixes it in TER
14:29 animan hi. Can someone help me with TS menu?
14:29 animan http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/ts_menu-1/
14:29 animan I need to wrap the subheader before page name only if it exists
14:30 animan see line 15
14:33 animan ok, got it working :)
14:46 animan how could I disable that jumpmenu part to be rendered before elements that are in special sysfolder?
14:51 animan <div id="cxxx" class="csc-default"> -- that gets rendered before every content element
14:58 webonaut found it it works now
15:02 animan any ideas how could i disable it? i know it's possible to set it from TS so it wouln't make these dividers there anymore.. something.something >
15:05 FloLeBlanc did you try to search in the object browser animan?
15:08 animan I think I'm looking for tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap >
15:09 animan but when i add it to the TSconfig part of the sysfolder where I hold these elements, it doesn't seem to get applied
15:10 FloLeBlanc that isn't added in TSconfig but in an extension or base template
15:12 animan hmm.. is it even possbile to prevent that anchor code from being rendered for elements that are displayed trough pages, but in the same time keep the functionality for regular elements?
15:18 animan that doesn't seem to disable anchors at all anymore. does new typo3 version handle it differently?
15:28 maholtz|WORK @animan: i think it is possible, but what means "displayed trough pages" ?
15:30 animan that content elements themselves are in sysfolder and are displayed thoughout every page
15:31 maholtz|WORK how do you include them?
15:31 animan by TS
15:32 maholtz|WORK paste your code into pastebin f.e.
15:32 animan http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/through_pages/
15:32 maholtz|WORK (do you use RECORDS or CONTENT?)
15:32 animan content
15:33 maholtz|WORK you know CONTENT.renderObj ?
15:33 maholtz|WORK thats default
15:33 maholtz|WORK 1.renderObj < tt_content
15:33 maholtz|WORK if you know this, you should be able to remove the staff you do not want
15:35 maholtz|WORK like 1.renderObj.stdWrap.prepend >
15:35 maholtz|WORK (with 4.4)
15:35 animan hmm.. i must admit i do not know how to achieve that
15:35 maholtz|WORK or 1.renderObj.stdWrap.dataWrap >
15:35 maholtz|WORK do you know how to disable it for all your content elements?
15:36 animan yes, I've done that now
15:36 animan dirty fix for now :/
15:36 maholtz|WORK something like tt_content.....
15:36 animan yes
15:36 maholtz|WORK so, just do it the same in 1.renderObj.....
15:37 maholtz|WORK did you know 45 minutes of typoscript? i tried to explain it there. IMHO it is simple if you get it. If not ..... not ;)
15:39 maholtz|WORK btw. you do not need where = deleted = 0
15:39 maholtz|WORK see http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/5/5/
15:43 animan something like this?
15:43 animan http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/through_pages_2/
15:45 animan doesn't seem to do the trick
15:45 animan tried to remove the tt_content part from the renderObj part as well
15:46 maholtz|WORK tt_content is like "lib" 1.renderObj < tt_content != 1.renderObj.tt_content
15:50 jonathanc Is is possible to get some help on tt_products here?
15:55 animan hmm.. still doesn't work :/
15:55 animan http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/through_pages_3/
15:55 animan what am I missing here? looks ok
15:58 maholtz|WORK yep, looks ok. how did you disabled it for all tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap > ?
15:58 maholtz|WORK you are not using insertrecords there, do you?
15:59 animan http://www.typo3-addict.com/2009/02/updated-cleanup-your-fe-sourcecode/
15:59 animan I just use all this tt_content part to disable it. dataWrap alone doesn't seem to do the trick
16:00 animan insertrecords?
16:02 maholtz|WORK you should be able to look it up in the objectbrowser - perhaps you have to check some conditions (if you use the objectbrowser, there is a footer with conditions).
16:06 FloLeBlanc anyone who can tell me if it is possible to remove the "archive" part of the url for tt_news with realURL?
16:06 animan can't find anything that looks like insertrecords there
16:11 maholtz|WORK i just tried to point out, that if you using insertrecords content element, you need to adjust at differnt points too
16:11 Denyerec2 hey maholtz, flo
16:11 maholtz|WORK Hey Denyerec
16:12 maholtz|WORK @FloLeBlanc: do not know how to manage that
16:19 FloLeBlanc hi denyerec
16:19 maholtz|WORK i have to leave know, bye
16:24 jonathanc Hi. Anyone using images and meta information from DAM with in tt_products?
17:07 tomsdale I used the extbase_kickstarter to create an extension - Tabels and tca are being generated but in the frontend I get "fatal error: Class 'Tx_Gosmodel_Controller_StandardController' not found in ..."
17:07 tomsdale Why is it looking for a StandardController and not for the ModelController I defined as my aggregate root.
18:11 tomsdale Actually I don't understand with extbase where the "entry point" of the application is since there is no main() function.
18:16 ries hey all, is it possible to show a dropdwn of authors ion tt_news instead of a input field?
18:16 ries tomsdale: for anything extbase you need to use the #FLOW channel
18:37 tomsdale ok, didn't know it existed, thx ries. off to flow.
19:08 nd__ tomsdale: Look at your ext_localconf.php ... there you define the controller/action combinations and the default one.
19:11 nd__ tomsdale: Probably take your time and read http://www.mittwald.de/fileadmin/pdf/extbase_fluid.pdf
19:14 tomsdale nd__: I already have the manual, thx. I think my probem is that I used the kickstarter, it still does a lot of things in a non standart way.
19:15 nd__ I'd say the problem with the kickstarter is that one does not know what it does
19:16 nd__ tomsdale: Anyhow, I assume that the StandardController is defined in your ext_localconf.php ... also check if your ModelController exists
19:17 tomsdale nd__ I'm in #flow as well - but noone there so I guess it's ok to talk here?
19:18 tomsdale I have the right Controller in the ext_localconf.php - comparing to the blog_example. I also created an ext_autoload.php with the same values. It still doesn't seem to find it and assumes the StandardController. Well, digging deeper.
19:19 nd__ tomsdale: Like I wrote in there, I think ries meant #flow3
19:20 tomsdale ah...
19:20 tomsdale well, cu in there :-) thx so far.
19:20 ries Ahhh yes... sorry I missed the 3 :s
19:21 nd__ ries: Isn't extbase a #typo3 topic?
19:21 ries nd__: it comes from FLOW3, right?
19:21 ries well.. that's what I understood from it, that it's a backport
19:22 nd__ it is... but it's the recent framework for extensions in typo3...
19:22 nd__ anyway, gotta shop some food :)
19:23 ries nd__: sure... I thought it was still alpha software?
19:23 tomsdale I guess it's part of both really
19:24 tomsdale I think extbase/fluid is stapled as beta atm
19:29 Thasmo tomsdale, what's your problem with extbase?
19:33 TheEternalAbyss can someone tell me why the hell typo3 won't display my site properly after I updated my template
19:33 TheEternalAbyss http://thierry-technology.com/index.php?id=274
19:34 TheEternalAbyss I changed the height on my flash object
19:34 TheEternalAbyss and now it all is screwed up
19:34 TheEternalAbyss all*
19:35 Thasmo line 158 column 52 - Fehler: ID "pg_unitnav" already defined"
19:35 Thasmo maybe that?
19:36 TheEternalAbyss what?
19:37 TheEternalAbyss ....
19:37 Thasmo you have used id="pg_unitnav" two times
19:38 Thasmo ids should be unique.
19:38 Thasmo not sure if that caused the problem
19:38 tomsdale Thasmo: extbase doesn't recognize my standard controller but takes the default StandardController (which obviously doesn't exist). I have declared my standardController in ext_localconf and ext_autoload byt it seems that's not enough.
19:38 TheEternalAbyss ugh...did I?
19:40 Thasmo tomsdale, not sure what you mean - did you register your controller(s) in the ext_tables.php?
19:40 TheEternalAbyss k fixed that
19:40 TheEternalAbyss but it's still not showing the flash object
19:41 Thasmo TheEternalAbyss where should it be?
19:42 TheEternalAbyss under the "Standard System" "Low Cost" etc tabs
19:42 TheEternalAbyss left of the related links
19:42 TheEternalAbyss it's just gone
19:42 TheEternalAbyss and it's in my template
19:42 TheEternalAbyss all i did was change the height on the damned thing
19:44 Thasmo well ;o) no clue so.
19:45 TheEternalAbyss thanks anayways
19:45 TheEternalAbyss been working on this all freakin day and now typo3 pulls this crap on me
19:46 nd__ ries: No, extbase is not... flow3 is
19:47 nd__ tomsdale: Paste your localconf somewhere...
19:52 tomsdale http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-b8ba98f727/ that's my localconf + autoload + dirstructure
19:57 TheEternalAbyss omg i'm gonna punch this stupid thing
19:57 TheEternalAbyss i need a break
20:16 nd__ tomsdale: So indexAction on HouseController should be default?
20:17 nd__ I wonder what this autoloader does :) Here it works fine without
20:18 tomsdale nd__ Smart guess, I you can override where your controllers resides. I don't think it's required. I'm just backtracing the calls in extbase and it only gets called if there is an autoload
20:20 tomsdale nd__ not only controller but other parts as well. how is your experience with extbase so far. Would you recommend it for a small project? - I'm still very much in the begining phase.
20:22 nd__ tomsdale: Small projects, yes... according to the maillinglist, 4k+ objects could kill the performance... but small projects - yes
20:22 [Stonki] hello, I moved to Typo3 4.3.x and for some extensions (macina banners and others) the storage IP is not working anymore. THe extensions always browse the full path showing all records
20:24 tomsdale nd__ ~150 objects + commenting system. I think comparable to the blog example.
20:25 nd__ so go ahead... :)
22:58 Denyerec Allo allo
22:59 Denyerec Long shot here, but has anyone ever modified a Thunderbird theme?
23:39 xenilio hi
23:39 xenilio how can i grant a user access only to a specific record?

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