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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Monday 17 May 2010

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01:02 jks hi guys... can you recommend a way to get started creating my own template for a typo3 site? (I have the design in HTML/CSS)
04:32 rosieres anybody here ?? -- got a 4.3.3 installation .... was on the way to put content in .... then the moodalbox came up with the advice the session has expired. Tried to login again gut everytime i login the box appears again and kicks me out . . . tried to clear the cache of the browser and the cache in t3conf . . . anybody got a hint ??
04:36 ries rosieres: I have heard about that issue...
04:37 ries are you on IE?
04:37 rosieres @ries no ff on linux
04:37 ries in IE there was some sort of compatibility mode
04:37 ries you are working locally?
04:38 rosieres @ries no . . .i have several t3 installations on that server . . . this one is an updated one from an 4.1 or something . . . with other installations i do not have that issue . . .
04:39 rosieres @ries last time i had that problem on that installation on an 4.22 so i upgraded and the issue was gone . . . now i want to do some contentfilling . . . i im *gosh fucking nerved . . .
04:42 rosieres @ries what a pain in the ass . .. i just take opera for that work . . . thanks
04:42 ries rosieres: strange... must be a bug in FF then
04:42 rosieres @ries seems to be
04:43 rosieres @even i i switch to private browsing the issue appears
04:43 ries I don't have to much experience with FF though... Safary works fine till the latest version of typo3
04:45 rosieres unfortunately there's no safari for linux out . .
05:12 rosieres @ries found the problem . . . it ws an seo extension bar for ff which caused the problem . . . *omg
05:13 ries rosieres: there ya go!!!
05:13 ries weird that such a extension can influence how TYPO3 logs-on
05:14 rosieres @ries not really . . . because most of them are using javascript . . .
08:36 maholtz|WORK morning
08:37 PiMB morning maholtz|WORK
09:48 influenjaa Could somebody explain me tt_news content system? If I click on the link [more] on a news, does the news content will be linked with "page.10.subparts.text_area < styles.content.get" ?
09:48 influenjaa (a bit bad English also) :)
11:28 Philiptypo3dk Hello. Has any1 tryed to make a makeover for your menu on your Typo3 site...
11:28 Fruchthoernschen Morning ;)
11:28 Philiptypo3dk I want an drop-down manu, with gradient color overlay
11:28 Fruchthoernschen ooOo ;) manu ;)
11:28 Fruchthoernschen menu
11:28 Fruchthoernschen any1 => anyone
11:28 Philiptypo3dk menu*
11:28 Philiptypo3dk :P
11:28 Fruchthoernschen okay I think I have see such a menue
11:28 Fruchthoernschen -e
11:28 Fruchthoernschen ;) urghs, good morning
11:29 Philiptypo3dk and how to make?
11:29 Fruchthoernschen wait I think I have a bookmark
11:30 Fruchthoernschen but first I will give a Question to the channel, Is there an way to disable the Cache for an Single Extension on an Page as for the whole Page?
11:31 Fruchthoernschen Philiptypo3dk, I think this could be helpfull: http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//63746/?tx_mmforum_pi1[page]=
11:34 Fruchthoernschen hm sorry Have no other ideas
11:37 maholtz|WORK @Fruchthoernschen: disable Cache for single extension is possible - if it is your extension make it non-cached
11:38 maholtz|WORK otherwise a trick like lib.uncached = COA_INT
11:38 maholtz|WORK lib.uncached.10 < plugin.tx_someextension_pi1
11:38 maholtz|WORK plugin.tx_someextension_pi1 < lib.uncached
11:38 maholtz|WORK should do the job
11:38 Fruchthoernschen hm okay, so I know there are much ways do do this, one way is call the pi-based Function from Typoscript with COA_INT
11:38 Fruchthoernschen Yes
11:39 maholtz|WORK perhaps you can check your extension? if it only depens on get-parameters f.e. page browser you could use cHash
11:39 Fruchthoernschen I think to setupd on Page Perfences : no_cache is not good ;) I have writen an large extension with much flexibility ;) and much Flexibility makes it curently realy slow
11:41 MikePer Hello. It seems I cannot store umlauts in texts. My DB is utf8 like all other typo3-dbs I have. The installations is running in 3.8 compatibility. Is there a way to set the encoding in typo3?
11:43 Fruchthoernschen in localconf.php $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['SYS']['UTF8filesystem'] = '1';
11:43 Fruchthoernschen $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['SYS']['setDBinit'] = 'set names utf8;';
11:43 Fruchthoernschen important is to write set names utf8 and not UTF8 or utf-8
11:43 Fruchthoernschen Also
11:43 Fruchthoernschen $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['BE']['forceCharset'] = 'utf-8';
11:44 Fruchthoernschen I think this can help you?
11:44 Fruchthoernschen hmm
11:45 Fruchthoernschen maholtz|WORK, yeas/ :-()
11:46 Fruchthoernschen one part the stats view ( top Downloads, top read... ) is not based on get Parameters. I use cHash for Link Creating and Caching does well ;) very well. so happy. but now I need a way to get the extension sometimes into non-caching mode ( for stats view which is in the sidebar )
11:47 Fruchthoernschen I think the Solutuion should be what you also sayed, COA_INT
11:47 MikePer Well, thank you, I will have to check if these are set in other typo3 installations
11:47 Philiptypo3dk If I should UPGRADE Typo3 (Core files) to the newest, what is the easist way then ? Currently on 4.1.5.
11:49 Fruchthoernschen the officiel way ;)
11:49 Philiptypo3dk I have 4 different sites on the same server. Won't it effect the other sites, if I upgrade the core files for the current site?
11:49 Fruchthoernschen http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Upgrade
11:50 Fruchthoernschen That's an question to the server admin
11:50 Fruchthoernschen when you only use backend and not have copy the TYPO3 installtion to the server
11:50 Fruchthoernschen make a backup
11:50 PiMB Philiptypo3dk, depends on if the sites have their own TYPO3 core files
11:50 Fruchthoernschen and "play" with an local Copy
11:50 PiMB or if you use some kind of symlink installation
11:51 Fruchthoernschen yes thtat's what I wantted to say
11:51 MikePer Is there a way to tell typo3 to reload the localconf file?
11:51 Fruchthoernschen yes clear Cache
11:51 PiMB delete the TEMP_CACHED files in the typo3conf folder
11:51 Fruchthoernschen or the typo3conf/temp_* files
11:52 Fruchthoernschen I think also Clear All Caches does that or ?
11:52 PiMB nope
11:52 PiMB it doesn't
11:52 Fruchthoernschen oh good to know ;)
11:52 Fruchthoernschen I have done everytime both
11:52 Fruchthoernschen so never realy checked this
11:53 maholtz|WORK @Fruchthoernschen: for you sidebar, you could create a second plugin _pi2 which is then not cached f.e.
11:53 PiMB I know Prot0 is working on a small hook extension to add the clear temp_CACHED_ files from the dropdown
11:53 PiMB also did that for the realurl cache
11:54 PiMB is real nice to work with
11:56 Prot0 yeah, little busy atm so development is on hold for at least 1 week hehe
12:00 Fruchthoernschen maholtz|WORK, hmm this would be a better idea. thanks
12:01 Fruchthoernschen oh yes I Prot0 is the author of the real url cache, which was released at TER with the comment: " realy easy stuff " or so? ;)
12:01 Prot0 erm
12:01 Prot0 not that i know :-)
12:01 Prot0 http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/realurl_clearcache/current/
12:02 Fruchthoernschen hehe lol :) I was only laughing about the comment, as I see the ext. I thinked yeah realy helpfully and cool comment
12:02 Fruchthoernschen realurl_clearcache
12:02 Fruchthoernschen ah okay yes ;) thats it
12:02 Prot0 hehe
12:02 Prot0 TER doesn't count downloads etc anymore?
12:03 Prot0 shame :-(
12:03 Fruchthoernschen Hi Prot0 ;) I have writen to the issue system, for the exception which was there at the first release ;)
12:03 Fruchthoernschen tobias.hoch..
12:03 Prot0 aah :)
12:03 Prot0 hehe
12:04 Prot0 something with interface class file not being loaded
12:04 Prot0 at least not always :)
12:05 PiMB nope, downloads aren't calculated, not since a long time (have heard the complaint on T3CON09 already)
12:05 Fruchthoernschen yes,
12:05 Fruchthoernschen why have them stoped counting?
12:06 Prot0 i guess from time to time stuff stops working :)
12:06 Prot0 with newer versions etc
12:10 maholtz|WORK @Fruchthoernschen: technical reasons, some bugs ... and it did not count the mirrors
12:10 Fruchthoernschen oh okay ;) But I think it's an nice feature to see the downloads, should come back some days
12:11 maholtz|WORK yep, i think, if it would be easy, it has been done. Perhaps if the typo3.org relaunch has been done...
12:12 Fruchthoernschen oOOoo they planning a relaunch?
12:14 maholtz|WORK yep, i am pretty optimistic, that it will be finished this year:)
12:14 Fruchthoernschen hehe okay ;)
12:16 Prot0 hehe
12:17 Prot0 lunch
12:17 Prot0 brb
12:22 bruce_lee4711_ hello
12:25 bruce_lee4711_ I don't know on which pages I use extenions. Is there an extension that shows me on which pages in the pagetree I use an extension?
12:26 bruce_lee4711_ is there somehitng like that for templates?
12:26 Fruchthoernschen for Typoscript Templates yes
12:26 bruce_lee4711_ cool!
12:26 Fruchthoernschen Klick with the activated Template Module (Left) on the World Cube
12:28 bruce_lee4711_ thank you!
12:28 Fruchthoernschen No Problem ;)
12:32 Fruchthoernschen it's hard
12:32 Fruchthoernschen it's so hard
12:32 Fruchthoernschen to get what I want ;) yes TYPO3 .. oOOoo
12:35 Fruchthoernschen oh
12:35 Fruchthoernschen ;)
12:38 Fruchthoernschen that's good, Caching works! thanks maholtz|WORK
12:39 Fruchthoernschen yes nice ;) after a long time, but now it feels good ;)
12:41 maholtz|WORK :)
12:42 Fruchthoernschen next step, directmail modifications
12:45 SargoDarya Fruchthoernschen: It's like marriage. Takes some time until you're getting used to it.
12:45 Fruchthoernschen hehe ;)
12:45 Fruchthoernschen is that so? ;)
12:48 SargoDarya Of course. Fun until you try it. When I heard Typo3 for the first time I was like wow.. I want that. When I now hear Typo3 I think ah.. again... why god?
12:48 Fruchthoernschen loool
12:48 Fruchthoernschen same here man oh yes
12:48 SargoDarya Exactly like marriage. Yeah.
12:48 Fruchthoernschen TYPO3 please!
12:48 Fruchthoernschen *g*
12:48 Fruchthoernschen oh yes, this here is my last TYPO3 Project..
12:49 Fruchthoernschen okay my last which belongs to customers
12:49 SargoDarya The real fun starts when you get children (in Typo3 known as multiple sites in one tree).
12:49 Fruchthoernschen yes haved ;) 2 tt_products shops and company page.
12:50 SargoDarya Or when your space gets to small and you decide to move into a different country because it's better there (aka Typo3 change of hosting providers and servers and ominous umlaut problems).
12:51 Fruchthoernschen but that was here okay.
12:51 Fruchthoernschen hehe ;)
12:52 SargoDarya Wow, I never compared Typo3 to a marriage but it's cool to see that both seems to suck equally.
12:53 Fruchthoernschen I've tried to use TYPO3 with and "umlaut"-Domain okay that was not the best Idea :) but now I have an an Umlaut Domain with my second name *g* and cannot use it with typo3 backend. ;)
12:53 Fruchthoernschen hehe
12:54 SargoDarya huh, why that?
12:55 Fruchthoernschen I don't know but cur. I would say if marriage suck, it's like my cur workload with TYPO3. But you will learn with the time. I will now use everytime the default RTE this will saves much time :) because I don't seach features in other rtes which you thing which should be there.
12:55 Fruchthoernschen because it has everytime killed the umlaut
12:56 Fruchthoernschen ü => U"!398 or so some crypt shit. Last tryied with TYPO3 4.1
12:57 Fruchthoernschen But TYPO3 is very create ;) I love it like I hate it. yes it's like a marry.
12:57 Fruchthoernschen great ;)
12:57 Fruchthoernschen oOoo
12:58 SargoDarya Nah, not really. I can play with Typo3 whenever I want and whatever I want :P
12:58 Fruchthoernschen hahaha ;)
12:58 Fruchthoernschen one point for you ;)
12:59 Fruchthoernschen there is no PReview or alpha Version of TYPO3 v5?
13:00 bruce_lee4711_ flow3?
13:01 Fruchthoernschen hm yes okay, Flow 3 is the Framework
13:01 Fruchthoernschen but there is not already an Backend which is based on FLOW3?
13:04 Prot0 back
13:04 Prot0 Fruchthoernschen: nope, they are still working on Phoenix (TYPO3 v5)
13:04 Fruchthoernschen yes okay;)
13:05 Prot0 i saw a preview somewhere
13:05 Fruchthoernschen I saw some Screenshots about the backend
13:05 Prot0 http://phoenix.demo.typo3.org/
13:05 Fruchthoernschen oh
13:05 nd__ ah, I feel like a typo3-beginner again but I can't figure out why my fresh install of t3 on my freshly installed host can't connect to the db... using mysql_connect it works fine, phpmyadmin works too, typo3 does not... ideas? ;/
13:05 Prot0 4.5 BE will be nice too, if they will implement the new style there at least
13:05 Fruchthoernschen I have this style is not the silver style which I have seen
13:06 Fruchthoernschen I have.. => I hope
13:07 Prot0 http://twitpic.com/1ojklm
13:07 Fruchthoernschen nd__, check the apache Log
13:07 Fruchthoernschen Prot0, oh that look good and clean ;)
13:07 Prot0 its a seperate project typo3facelift =)
13:07 Prot0 not going to be in 4.4 though
13:08 Prot0 :-(
13:08 PiMB always possibility to create your own :)
13:08 Fruchthoernschen yes I know ;)
13:08 Fruchthoernschen I have changed the searchbar already on the list view
13:09 Fruchthoernschen I don't know which guy has had the idea to place the search bar at the bottom ..
13:09 Fruchthoernschen now i have 2 ;)
13:09 Fruchthoernschen at the top and the bottom
13:09 nd__ Fruchthoernschen: doesn't say a word... same for php log
13:10 Fruchthoernschen I was also searching for an way to get an new Icon or menue to the top bar in the backend
13:11 Fruchthoernschen hm nd__ is php.ini configuratet to show html errors to the browser and so on?
13:11 Fruchthoernschen check mysql log also an idea
13:11 Fruchthoernschen i think I have had sometime the same trouble
13:12 nd__ Fruchthoernschen: I disabled html errors but enabled E_ALL | E_STRICT and logfile and whatnot
13:12 Fruchthoernschen okay
13:12 Fruchthoernschen and the log file of php does saying nothing?
13:12 nd__ indeed
13:13 nd__ apache log is in debug level but say's nothing about sql
13:13 Fruchthoernschen for testing create an small mysql_connect snippit and look at this ?
13:13 nd__ did, worked
13:13 nd__ phpmyadmin also works
13:13 nd__ connecting in shell works
13:14 Fruchthoernschen Restart All Services like Apache2, mysql and kill if php as cgi runned all running php-cgi's
13:14 nd__ ah, I set this stuff up on a dozen hosts but now I have the problems I can't figure out
13:14 Fruchthoernschen and then restart
13:14 nd__ damn mondays
13:15 Fruchthoernschen Start only Apache and look at the installer what he will say now,
13:15 Fruchthoernschen without mysql
13:15 Fruchthoernschen ;) it should appear an error or?
13:16 Fruchthoernschen hmm have you setuped php -> memory limit to 64MB or 128MB?
13:16 PiMB nd__, just my 2 cents and some open doors, do you have the proper username/password/hostname set in TYPO3?
13:16 PiMB maybe external host? not localhost.
13:16 Fruchthoernschen yes that could also be
13:17 PiMB Fruchthoernschen, just getting the obvious out of the way :)
13:17 Fruchthoernschen if you have external host, you must allow mysql to accept connections from outside
13:17 nd__ PiMB: it's local and yes, I typed it about a hundred times and used the same in cli and threeliner
13:17 Prot0 if running locally, check if the mysql port is default
13:17 Prot0 3306
13:17 Prot0 if im correct :)
13:17 nd__ configured the user to allow access on localhost, 127.0.0.1, and the hostname
13:17 PiMB once spend 1.5 hours on the phone with a colleague trying to get her wireless to work, while it turned out she used the wrong pw..
13:17 PiMB :)
13:17 Fruchthoernschen yes
13:17 nd__ yes, that's the default too
13:17 nd__ PiMB: sure... makes sense to double check and I'm sure it's somethiing similar in the end, but this I checked
13:18 Prot0 what mysql version? :-)
13:18 PiMB maybe some extension or something that interferes?
13:18 nd__ 5.1.46
13:18 Fruchthoernschen PiMB, oh no? I could kill suchlike ppl,
13:18 nd__ PiMB: it's a 100% fresh vanilla install
13:18 nd__ nothing pimped yet
13:18 Fruchthoernschen php?
13:18 Fruchthoernschen version?
13:19 Fruchthoernschen compiled self?
13:19 nd__ 5.3.2 via macports
13:19 Fruchthoernschen or precompiled?
13:19 nd__ works fine on all other macs I have and use
13:19 Fruchthoernschen oh hm ;)
13:19 Fruchthoernschen it's the mac, I think :P
13:19 nd__ haha
13:19 Fruchthoernschen *g*
13:19 nd__ no it's not as mysql_connect works :D
13:19 nd__ but it's worth a try to bash the OS... might to it later myself
13:19 Fruchthoernschen hehe ;)
13:20 Fruchthoernschen was only a joke ;) no bash war
13:20 PiMB ;)
13:20 Fruchthoernschen after solving problem we can bash
13:20 Fruchthoernschen or after I have my meal ;)
13:20 nd__ aight
13:20 PiMB well dang..
13:21 Fruchthoernschen I think it is the php version,
13:21 nd__ I gonna go get a coffee
13:21 nd__ might work
13:21 Fruchthoernschen don't ask why
13:21 PiMB if you check the install tool
13:21 PiMB does it say it sees databases?
13:23 nd__ nay
13:23 nd__ it says I need to connect first :)
13:23 nd__ which it can't
13:24 Fruchthoernschen hm
13:24 Fruchthoernschen what says syslog?
13:24 Fruchthoernschen or auth log?
13:24 Fruchthoernschen there must be an errlor log hmm
13:25 Fruchthoernschen that this in your php.ini: error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE
13:25 Fruchthoernschen display_errors = On
13:26 Fruchthoernschen I don't know but I think to get both e-all and e-notice you set it with an &
13:26 Fruchthoernschen display_startup_errors = On
13:27 nd__ I have an |
13:27 nd__ as it says that's what you would want for development
13:30 aterriblechaos nd__: did you try to set db settings in your localconf.php manually and than a compare in the install tool?
13:30 PiMB nd__, aterriblechaos got a point. Might it be that the variables for the db are overwritten further down in the localconf file?
13:31 nd__ no I didn't try
13:31 Fruchthoernschen checked file permissions ?
13:31 nd__ Fruchthoernschen: yes, install tool says it's fine
13:31 Fruchthoernschen from tempdirs and so
13:31 Fruchthoernschen hm okay
13:31 nd__ but now I can't connect via phpmyadmin anymore... at least it's consistent problems :)
13:31 Fruchthoernschen sucking error
13:31 Fruchthoernschen mysql started ?
13:32 nd__ yes
13:33 Fruchthoernschen brb, lunch
13:37 Prot0 bon apetit
13:39 nd__ well, entering the values into localconf by hand did it
13:39 nd__ wtf...
13:39 Fruchthoernschen yes yes ;) that's typo3 :P
13:40 nd__ haha
13:40 Prot0 heard of more problems like that
13:40 Prot0 weird stuff
13:42 aterriblechaos i think its something related by mysql, had a similar problem where "show databases" wasnt allowed for the mysql user
13:43 nd__ thank you guys anyway
13:45 Fruchthoernschen good to know.
13:45 Fruchthoernschen till the next error ;)
13:46 Fruchthoernschen has someone here setuped sr_feuser_register and created an new field whoch is an type:select with MM feature ?
13:46 PiMB np nd
13:47 nd__ Fruchthoernschen: naaah.. no more :)
13:47 Fruchthoernschen I have to fix or do some workarounds inside of the models/*_data.php file to get it working... like the dataValue for the Field is at this point an array and it is expectet to get an string..
13:48 Fruchthoernschen nd__, I hope it ;)
13:48 Phlunk3 hi guys, I have recently removed the extension drag and drop for templavoila (because it was now in templavoila itself). However now when I make an FCE with the element type "container for content elements" I no longer get the option to add things into the container in the backend. Does anyone know the solution for this?
13:49 Fruchthoernschen Phlunk3, used beLayout Options also?
13:49 Phlunk3 never heard of "beLayout Options"
13:50 Phlunk3 it is an extension?
13:50 Fruchthoernschen at the XML inside of <meta></meta> you can setup custem looking of templavloila backend
13:51 Fruchthoernschen there is an Bug on the issue tracker which says that the drag and drop doesn't work with beLayout. also an Solution/patch is attached to the bug
13:51 bruce_lee4711_ you guys are real hackers!
13:52 Fruchthoernschen But if you haven't heard of beLayout than this should not solve this issue
13:52 Phlunk3 ahh ok, not an issue with drag and drop itself, simple issue is that the content element "container for content elements" doesnt show the plus button to add things inside it.
13:52 Fruchthoernschen ooh okay
13:53 Fruchthoernschen soory ;) misunderstood
13:53 Phlunk3 will make a screenshot. moment
13:53 Fruchthoernschen ok, check the datastructure again, and look if you have selected Content Element as type for the field
13:54 Phlunk3 element and then "page-content elements"
13:54 Fruchthoernschen also it can be, that templavoila doesn't save the field settings correctly. (very annyoing) so check list view module and then edit the templavoila DataStruct. Row/Data
13:55 Fruchthoernschen hehe lol: "Association sucks!" at the topic? ;)
13:57 Phlunk3 http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1902/grabdaddy.png <-- not sure if that helps much to explain the problem
13:58 Fruchthoernschen hehe
13:58 Fruchthoernschen yes okay here
13:59 Fruchthoernschen look at this
13:59 Fruchthoernschen http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9418/templavoila.png
13:59 PiMB @ries, care to ellaborate on that topic statement?
13:59 Fruchthoernschen and click edit
14:00 Fruchthoernschen you can paste contet of the XML to any no-paste page..
14:00 Phlunk3 http://paste.phlogi.net/-7bb437c172/
14:01 Fruchthoernschen <Typoscript>10= RECORDS
14:01 Fruchthoernschen 10.source.current=1
14:01 Fruchthoernschen 10.tables = tt_content</Typoscript>
14:01 Fruchthoernschen hmm this looks a bit, problematic?
14:01 Fruchthoernschen is that only in no-paste service so or also in the xml ?
14:01 ries PiMB: yes, they pulled Dallas certification from the website without any notification at forehand. We have been mailing them for ages (2 weeks now) about this and only now some responses will appear.
14:02 Phlunk3 also in the xml
14:02 Fruchthoernschen but this is not important for the backend to show the plus and adding
14:02 ries PiMB: They are so slow in responding to any questions, concerns....
14:02 Fruchthoernschen <Typoscript>10= RECORDS
14:02 Fruchthoernschen 10.source.current=1
14:02 Fruchthoernschen 10.tables = tt_content
14:02 Fruchthoernschen </Typoscript>
14:02 PiMB did you address the association or the certification team?
14:02 cweiske hi. regarding svn.typo3.org tags/ directories: which tag names are to be used? tags/extension_name-0-5-1 or tags/Version-0-5-1 as described in the wiki?
14:03 Fruchthoernschen Dallas Certification okay what is that?
14:03 Phlunk3 wasnt that either Fruchthoernschen :( dammit lol
14:03 PiMB @ries, but yeah, association is kinda slow on those things.
14:03 PiMB I understand
14:03 Fruchthoernschen ries, Fruchthoernschen < = > skipjack ( if you know the skipjack )
14:03 ries PiMB: First, teh company I am partly operating under was pulled twice as a legitimate Accossiation member, and as such a member you get a discount. We have send them a mail because we needed to be a member to get our discount, took a loooong time and I am not sure that is solved now
14:04 ries In the mean time they removed teh registration for the certification without any notice, not on typo3-english, and not on typo3-usa
14:04 ries Fruchthoernschen: what's in a name :D
14:04 Fruchthoernschen Phlunk3, hmm think on cleaning typo3conf/temp_* files and all other things from the drag and drop
14:05 Fruchthoernschen ries, yes, you are right.. but for skipjack I have so often forgoten my password ;)
14:05 Phlunk3 am afraid Ill have to start debugging the templavoila php :/
14:05 ries PiMB: kinda slow???? dog slow.... I have seen some students as the official people, and the problem is that they don't understand it's sometimes important for us, not personally... but clients like to see that tagline.
14:06 ries and as such, the typo3 association sucks :D
14:06 ries Fruchthoernschen: I would forget the name.....
14:06 PiMB yeah alright, was trying to nuance it a bit. but you're right.
14:07 Fruchthoernschen and as I needed an new nick, don't know. spelled in englisch like: "Fruitycroissant" and yes I'm a big dude :p the german writing is with mistake ;)
14:07 PiMB the association is more important then the people running it are acting
14:07 PiMB i guess
14:07 Fruchthoernschen Phlunk3, hm no ;) clean up localconf from the drag and drop
14:07 Fruchthoernschen ext. entrys
14:08 Phlunk3 is done ofcourse :)
14:08 Fruchthoernschen and the typo3conf/ext/drag... dir can also be killed
14:08 Fruchthoernschen and reinstall templavoila
14:08 Fruchthoernschen I think this should solve?
14:09 Fruchthoernschen students ;) I know so much students which I can but in my trash ;)
14:09 Phlunk3 no, unfortunately not :P
14:09 Fruchthoernschen < also a stundent ;)
14:09 Fruchthoernschen hmpf
14:09 Fruchthoernschen okay I have no idea
14:11 ries PiMB: We have the feeling (although that's not really true) that 'they' want to protect the market. Canada has some certified members though
14:11 PiMB protect what market? European market?
14:11 ries I am goign to try it, they are now seeking for a solution. I am afraid if I will not pase they will make a nice blog about it :D
14:12 ries I don't do much typoscript and I believe they are the majority of the question..
14:12 PiMB have done it already, and true, it's basically down to TSconfig and typoscript
14:12 PiMB imho..
14:12 PiMB but it's doable
14:13 PiMB I've printed out the TSref, and hung it in the toilet :)
14:13 PiMB worked like a charm
14:13 PiMB had a 70% score
14:15 ries I never used TSConfig... not really, I am more doing PHP extensions, I am better at that... but it looks good on the website I am afraid
14:15 ries that's why the whole certification started...
14:15 PiMB I know
14:15 ries I don't think that my current clients care...
14:16 PiMB I'm more of a programmer myself
14:16 PiMB but learned a lot from the tsref and doing the certification
14:16 PiMB and no, not really
14:16 PiMB but the company loves placing banners with 'certified people working here'
14:16 PiMB it does look better
14:16 PiMB it doesn't make you better
14:19 Phlunk3 lol I failed with like 56% or something, need to go do it again when working with typoscript more.
14:19 Phlunk3 yeah lol, company wants everyone to get certified too, is annoying when some of us work v rarely with typoscript.
14:20 Fruchthoernschen typoscript is nice ;)
14:21 Phlunk3 its useful, its most definately not "nice"
14:21 Fruchthoernschen hehe ;)
14:21 Fruchthoernschen come on ;)
14:21 PiMB it's awesome!
14:21 Fruchthoernschen sometime without typoscript I can't done my ideas
14:22 Fruchthoernschen Okay sometimes I have some special ideas ;)
14:22 maholtz|WORK imho if you are an extension programmer, you should know typoscript too
14:23 Phlunk3 likely u will know the functions and parameters, but doesnt mean u know how to set them in the typoscript :P
14:23 PiMB definetly helped me understanding things better
14:23 Fruchthoernschen Yes, it's good, for get an very flexible extension
14:23 PiMB Phlunk3, it's always a bit trial and error (especially in the beginning)
14:23 Fruchthoernschen yes and good to know the shortcut. tsref.de ;)
14:24 Phlunk3 indeed, I had probs with it until someone pointed out that the ts was just calling php functions, then its pretty obvious to follow
14:24 maholtz|WORK @Phlunk3: well, i think you need to understand how typoscript work to integrate it properly
14:24 Fruchthoernschen also good to know is don't change the default rte ;)
14:25 Fruchthoernschen and make backup ;)
14:25 maholtz|WORK for an developer i would suggest to read class.tslib_content.php
14:25 Fruchthoernschen that's an good idea, I havn't read much of the typo3 code yet.
14:28 PiMB that's good to do
14:29 Fruchthoernschen hmm I'm so happy that the caching works so good :)
14:31 Prot0 you should try static file caching ;-)
14:31 PiMB gotta love the class references (with thanks to Prot0 for the proper link ;) ) http://www.typo3-unleashed.net/api_online.html
14:31 Fruchthoernschen have read about it and seen an Ext.
14:31 PiMB static file caching is damn quick mate
14:32 Fruchthoernschen yeah yeah the good clas referce I use this link every day / hour..
14:32 Fruchthoernschen I have tried to setup my own doxygen but hmpf I don't know my version is everytime so slow..
14:32 PiMB you could also print that, and read it on the can
14:33 Fruchthoernschen hm okay that sounds like a rocking feature whoch I will done at the weekend
14:33 Prot0 ;)
14:33 Prot0 PiMB: only if your name is benjamin
14:34 Fruchthoernschen is static file Caching stable / or improved ?
14:34 Fruchthoernschen improved?
14:34 PiMB Prot0, good inside joke :) but he will be able to read wikipedia when he's on there..
14:35 Fruchthoernschen if you try to create an newsletter, install also the ext. css2inline, thjat's so good ;)
14:35 Prot0 i think it works pretty good, just need to keep in mind that you want to implement it on development
14:35 Fruchthoernschen hm okay
14:36 PiMB needs some finetuning on each site / server
14:36 PiMB but it's pretty easy and fast
14:36 Fruchthoernschen Currently it's okay locally I get my page within 300 ms
14:36 PiMB and if it's not able to cache statically it still uses T3.
14:36 PiMB caching
14:36 Fruchthoernschen but I have here no workload
14:36 PiMB so win / win
14:36 Fruchthoernschen yes that's true an good idea
14:36 Fruchthoernschen I've thinked that is has a fallback ;)
14:36 Fruchthoernschen that's good to know
14:37 Fruchthoernschen brb, must upgrade to latest typo3
14:37 Fruchthoernschen 4.3.3 ;)
14:37 PiMB working with nc_staticfilecache myself
14:38 Fruchthoernschen okay, this is the only solutions which are currelty ther efor static file cache?
14:38 Fruchthoernschen I have read while browsing the net about an ext. but not tried directly. But I have interrested
14:39 Fruchthoernschen someone should add an button at the "the install tool is locked" page whoch points me to the install dir .. hmfp
14:39 Phlunk3 when u do make an fce and see if container fior content elements works for u without nh_dragndrop :P
14:40 Fruchthoernschen Phlunk3, ohm what?
14:40 PiMB Fruchthoernschen, you could change the die statement in the install tool
14:40 PiMB so it doesn't die on you
14:40 Fruchthoernschen hehe yes ;) hm okay it was only a small joke like.. the die() is okay ;)
14:41 PiMB I've done editing to it once, to include like localhost check.
14:41 PiMB so it's accessible on dev environment without dieing on me
14:42 Fruchthoernschen hmm is there some improments for the backend? I think sometimes it could be faster ..
14:42 PiMB there are the htaccess files with gzipping etc.
14:42 Fruchthoernschen hm yes PiMB this was my next idea as I have writen down
14:42 PiMB and the working on the icons in css with BG sprites
14:43 Fruchthoernschen hmm okay htacces files I have heared about
14:43 Fruchthoernschen css sprites bg not, is there an article ?
14:44 Fruchthoernschen hmm the evil's thing is powermail ;) nice ext. but heavy js loading
14:50 Phlunk3 http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites <-- css sprites Fruchthoernschen
14:50 Phlunk3 didnt read this but seemed to show what they r :P
14:51 Fruchthoernschen hehe
14:51 SargoDarya CSS Sprites are useful if you have a lot of small images which would each take one request from the webserver.
14:52 SargoDarya By combining them in one large image you only have one request left.
14:52 Fruchthoernschen yes hm okay
14:52 Fruchthoernschen oh okay aahh okay
14:52 Fruchthoernschen good to know
14:52 Fruchthoernschen that's often seen by ratings and so on.
14:53 Fruchthoernschen but only for effects
14:53 Fruchthoernschen Amaysing ;) no error currelty after upgrade vom 4.2.1 to 4.3.3
14:54 Fruchthoernschen amassing
14:54 Fruchthoernschen ;) I think I should write and then fixing broken words
14:57 Fruchthoernschen hey there is no way to get the Extensions T3d as an Zip file?
14:57 SargoDarya why'd you want it as a zip file?
14:59 Fruchthoernschen my TYPO3 Projects are all nested in an svn, and when I Update an ext with ext. Managar I must first make a copy of the svn ext dir, install update ( which will overwrite the ext dir and lose the svn needed files ) and then copy the update into to copy of the ext dir and then moveing the ext to the right palce again
15:00 Fruchthoernschen when I have a zip I can download it and unpack it to the svn dir and I'm finish ;)
15:03 Fruchthoernschen http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//61537/
15:03 Fruchthoernschen hm okay ;)
15:13 Phlunk3 reverted to 4.1 of tv and now problem was solved.
15:18 Fruchthoernschen hm ;)
15:41 MikePer Is there a ext to show activities of our facebook page in typo3? Or is it that easy that there is no ext needed?
15:43 Prot0 dont think there is one
15:43 Prot0 there are some libs available though
15:43 Prot0 http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?tx_terfe_pi1[view]=search&no_cache=1&tx_terfe_pi1[sword]=facebook
15:45 Fruchthoernschen hmm knowns someone an way to solve the issue: " Unable to autoload class "Mail" " I get everytime when I click on an directmail Backend Module this error in my mail Account ( debug process of my typo3). But the ext. works correctly its only annoying ..
15:49 SargoDarya MikePer: You can use Facebook Social Plugins for that
15:50 SargoDarya MikePer: http://developers.facebook.com/plugins # You want the Activity Feeeeeeeeeeeeeed / om nom nom
16:08 MikePer SargoDarya, I tried but facebook successfully confused my totally
16:09 MikePer me
16:12 SargoDarya MikePer: /join #facebook
16:21 ironm hi SargoDarya :) .. how was your competition?
16:26 ironm Hi guys :) - I hopped you had a nice weekend - please allow me one question: is it possible to have two domains in _one_ typo3 tree (like xyz.com and e.g. xyz.ch) and depends on the chosen URL to use another default website language? ... thank you very much in advance for any hints!
16:27 ries ironm: yes this is possible.. obvious the two domains will show the content for the same tree a content record cannot seperate the two domains, but with TS you can
16:28 ries you need TS to setup your languages
16:28 ironm thanks a lot ries .. would you have a example of such TS setting example?
16:31 ironm ries: in the second step I would like to setup a https for Login & Register (https_enforcer) .. I tested it successfully for one domain and one typo3 tree (http / https .. both point to the same physical dir on the hdd)
16:34 ries ironm: no, I don't have a sample for that... but basiclly you tell in TS the language based on teh domain name
16:35 ironm thank you very much ries :) .. I will look around for some examples of such TS code
16:36 PiMB http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-714964c761/
16:36 PiMB something like this.
16:36 ries ironm: look for 'language menu' and then you are half way there
16:36 PiMB from the top of my head
16:36 PiMB should do the trick
16:36 ries that looks much like it, thanls PiMB
16:36 PiMB np
16:36 ironm you are great PiMB! .. thanks a lot! :-)
16:37 ries you can even leave out the first condition...
16:37 PiMB ..
16:37 ironm thank you very much ries and PiMB
16:37 PiMB it's almost 5 oclock.. not to sharp there myself
16:37 PiMB but you're right, leave the first condition
16:38 ries PiMB: monday morning is my excuss ;)
16:38 rosieres ironm: or buy the oreillys cookbook for typo3 should have everybody . . . it's a good reference book
16:39 ironm rosieres: thank you ... I have this book here :-)
16:39 rosieres ironm: there it is discribed . . . ;-)
16:40 ironm great .. I will check it
16:40 rosieres ironm: but not the enforcer thing . . . ;-) but the enforcer is really easy to use . . . the documentation is selfexplaining
16:40 PiMB I'm an autodidactic cooker myself, does the trick as well :)
16:40 rosieres ;-))
16:41 ironm rosieres: I had some strange behavior using realurl togehter with the https_enforcer .. some links were wrong (showed the value of the link "before")
16:42 rosieres ironm: i used it in conjuction with cooluri and had no problems
16:42 ironm I will try my "autodidactic-features" PiMB ;-)
16:43 ironm thank you rosieres .. I can check also cooluri. Why did you take cooluri and not realurl?
16:45 rosieres ironm: because i like the xml configuration .... and had in a lot of other projects less issues with . ...
16:46 ironm really nice to know it rosieres .. I prefer also xml like syntax
16:46 PiMB realurl has php array syntax.
16:46 PiMB not really different right?
16:47 PiMB well of course it is. but still, if you indent correctly also nice
16:47 ironm well .. I need probably more background-knowledge due to mod_redirect I guess (syntax)
16:48 rosieres ironm: mod_rewrite you wanted to say ??
16:48 ironm I am not sure if I need an realurl.conf in typo3conf .. ( I have the realurl_auto.conf only .. )
16:49 ironm yes rosieres .. mod_rewrite ;-)
16:55 PiMB bye guys
16:55 PiMB have a good one.
16:55 PiMB see you tomorrow
17:09 Fruchthoernschen Someone an idea for this: "sendmail: recipients with -t option not supported" when I want to send an Testmail with directMail ?
17:47 Fruchthoernschen Someone an idea for this: "sendmail: recipients with -t option not supported" when I want to send an Testmail with directMail ? -> solved setting in php.ini sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/ssmtp -t because I use ssmtp and not an complete mta
17:47 Fruchthoernschen for the log ;)
19:27 Fruchthoernschen Prot0|off, hey ehm static fileCache is does this creates temporary html files anywhere ? I think under /uploads/tx_fl.../ should be much html files but there are no when TYPO3 creates cache. hmm sounds simple. readed doc and hm okay we will see
19:35 lolli_ did someone ever played with semaphore page generation locking instead of file locks?
19:35 lolli_ it's avail. in the core, i wonder if it works as advertised ;)
20:40 flipmoe hi
20:40 flipmoe i got some problems regarding a datetime field with extbase
20:41 flipmoe in the fe there is a linux timestamp instead of normal date time
21:00 Fruchthoernschen normal flimoe ;)
21:55 LetterRip hi all, i have a page on the blender foundation typo3, i've added some new plugins for our page http://www.blender.org/community/user-community/ - however apparently i need to add the plugins to a layout somewhere also that is not obvious to me
21:55 LetterRip any idea on how to find the page i want to edit?
21:55 LetterRip the new plugins show up under the language
21:55 LetterRip ie Blugarian
21:56 LetterRip Bulgarian
21:56 LetterRip but they aren't in the rest of the page
21:56 LetterRip so i'm apparently overlooking something
21:57 poioop hello there. after parsing a temnplate an adding it to the page, are the marks and subparts still accessible somehow?
21:57 poioop page.marks.mymark does not seem to work
21:59 foertel hi
21:59 rosieres_ LetterRip: one tree or multipletrees ?
22:00 foertel hi lolli_
22:00 LetterRip one tree, i think
22:00 LetterRip rosieres_: one tree, i think
22:03 LetterRip rosieres_: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/3364
22:03 LetterRip shows a pic of our layout
22:03 rosieres_ LetterRip: .... ah... got you wrong . . you want to ad an content element to a page that is an plugin for blender . . . ?!
22:03 LetterRip ummmm
22:03 LetterRip let me try and explain :)
22:04 rosieres_ LetterRip: ... back in 2 mins. ..
22:04 LetterRip k
22:05 LetterRip for the User community page, under 'page content' it has a bunch of languages with a puzzle piece icon
22:05 LetterRip there is a folder that contains a list of sites, and each site is tagged with a language
22:06 LetterRip for new languages they aren't showing on the site
22:06 LetterRip and don't have a ref count number beside them
22:07 poioop hmm. should i do page.999.workOnSubpart=BODY again to repoen editing for one template?
22:09 LetterRip so apparently i need to add a reference to the plugin somewhere
22:09 LetterRip but i can't seem to find where
22:13 rosieres_ LetterRip: ... I don't get what you want . . . i look at the screenshot . . . wonder why it is fe editing . . . asking me what do you mean with plugin . . . and asking me what do you mean with page content . . . if you want to add an plugin to a special site or range of sites you should at least give some ts code or something . . . or am i getting you completely wrong ??
22:14 LetterRip to be honest i don't know :)
22:14 LetterRip i'll try and track down the original creator
22:14 LetterRip i don't think i need to code anything
22:14 LetterRip i thin the word 'plugin' has a different meaning in this context than what you are thinking
22:15 rosieres_ LetterRip: sometimes it makes sense to explain things more exactly . . . ;-)
22:16 LetterRip well the word plugin is what appears when you 'mouse over' the icon of the puzzle piece icon
22:16 rosieres_ where is the puzzle piece icon ???
22:17 LetterRip oops that is
22:17 LetterRip the type when you edit it
22:17 LetterRip ie Type: Insert plugin
22:18 rosieres_ an content element as plugin . . .
22:20 rosieres_ perhaps you should post another screenshot on wich i can see what you are doing . . .an try to explain exactly what you want to do
22:20 LetterRip I think i'll try and track down the guy who created our site layout originally
22:21 LetterRip if he can't remember then i'll give that a try
22:21 LetterRip thanks for your help
22:21 lolli_ hi foertel ;)
22:46 poioop when i put page.bodyTagAdd=<!--testtxg--> on my options page, why wouldnt that show?
22:46 poioop (in the source offcourse)
22:49 lolli_ poioop, works for me, but is invalid
22:49 lolli_ <body <!-- foo -->>
22:49 poioop oops
22:50 lolli_ it's added inside the body tag
22:50 poioop hmm, idt does not even do that :(
22:50 poioop what would be the smartest approach to add content to a page previously assembled with automaketemplate?
22:51 lolli_ better example: add same id to body tag: page.bodyTagAdd = id=foo --> <body id="foo">
22:54 lolli_ s/same/some
22:54 poioop hmm. strange.
22:55 poioop how can i test if the page object is defined?
22:55 poioop its a live project i have to add a single line to a page. i dont want to "disturb" the page
22:57 lolli_ ?
22:58 poioop i dont know if the page=PAGE stuff is processed at that point. i cant seem to influence the pages with the methods mentioned earlier
22:59 lolli_ use the ts object browser to see current ts values on specific pages
23:00 poioop in backend?
23:01 lolli_ yep
23:02 poioop TypoScript Object Browser. i clicked on my desired page, choose Templates from the left panel and voila. but i can see no page Object there
23:02 poioop just content, plugin and styles
23:03 poioop aaarg
23:03 poioop choose "Setup" from drop down
23:03 poioop sorry
23:04 lolli_ ah, yes. that's probably a stupid default setting anyway ...
23:05 lolli_ should default to setup tree and not config tree. good catch ...
23:05 poioop ok. what i see is the settting of the page with all templates allready interpreted against it, or?
23:07 lolli_ yep, shown ts values are page-tree depending (except conditions, which you'd have to set manually)
23:08 poioop ok, i can see an umber of subparts. but my subpart i have put into that template is not there
23:08 poioop i guess this has to do with outomaketemplate, right?
23:08 poioop outo=auto
23:13 lolli_ poioop, can't help you there, i'm not used to automaketemplate
23:14 poioop so am i. but thanks a ton for trying so far :)
23:16 foertel from the l to the o to the l l i
23:16 foertel *g
23:17 foertel what about next bugday ... are you gonna host it?
23:21 Fruchthoernschen hola
23:30 lolli_ foertel, aeh sure
23:30 poioop whatever i write in the TSConfig of the page is ignored. this is sooo strange
23:35 foertel lolli_: yeeha ;)
23:35 foertel let's see if i'm allowed to attend *g
23:35 lolli_ foertel, did you follow #13670? counting follow-up #5 ;)
23:36 foertel nope
23:36 foertel don't have time for anything atm :(
23:36 foertel learning stuff to get my integrator certification on devDays ;)
23:37 foertel preparing my extbase workshop for t3camp hamburg next weekend
23:37 foertel and coding stuff for my extbase profiler for devDays ...
23:37 foertel would be great if days had 48 hours *g
23:38 lolli_ :) hope to see you on both sessions :)
23:38 foertel args ... don't
23:38 foertel i don't want people to attend who know what I'm talking about
23:38 foertel *g
23:38 foertel just people who say "yes" and "amen" to everything :-D
23:39 lolli_ let's start with a beer before #camp ;)
23:40 foertel unfortunately i will arrive only at about 8:30 a.m. on saturday
23:40 lolli_ ahhhh
23:40 foertel i don't know if that isn't a little bit too early to drink beer
23:40 foertel *g
23:40 lolli_ lamer
23:40 foertel yeh ... it's pfingsten
23:41 foertel my wife's gonna kill me anyway :D
23:42 foertel but feel free to come to kiel on friday afternoon, have a beer or two or alot, sleep on my guest's couch and drive back to hamburg with us on saturday mornin ;)
23:42 lolli_ btw: who's christopher on mantis?
23:42 foertel don't know ... it's not "mine" christopher
23:42 foertel at least that's what he said :D
23:43 foertel we are goin by car, i will take up two of my collegues at 7.30 a.m. in kiel and then come to grab some breakfast (and beer? *g)

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