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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Wednesday 19 May 2010

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00:05 pgampe Gilles: what is the matter?
00:14 pgampe 5 6.9674 12867600 SC_mod_tools_em_xmlhandler->parseExtensionsXML( ) ../class.em_index.php:1754
00:14 pgampe 6 105.7992 15542036 SC_mod_tools_em_xmlhandler->storeXMLResult( ) ../class.em_xmlhandler.php:382
00:14 pgampe does anyone know why importing extension list hangs up ?
00:14 pgampe (see above)
00:44 pgampe bye
01:28 ries anybody going to dallas?
02:34 Fruchthoernschen hmm wat is there?
03:01 ries Fruchthoernschen: conference
10:03 jangla Hi all. Not sure if this is the best place for this, but I'm leaving my current role and I'm therefore looking for someone who can do some freelance Typo3 work for my soon to be ex-employer. Private msg me if you are interested and would like more details.
10:03 tuxie Does anyone know a good place to start with looking at typo3 extension development?
10:04 PiMB @ jangla, maybe this will help your employer.. http://www.typo3jobs.net/
10:04 Prot0 tuxie: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Extension_Development
10:04 Prot0 jangla: additionally you may try the TYPO3 jobs mailinglist :-)
10:04 jangla ah - nice link! thanks Prot0.
10:04 PiMB damn.. to quick
10:04 Prot0 ;-)
10:05 jangla lol - still open to offers from in here of course but I will definitely have a look at the suggestions Prot0 has made.
10:06 Prot0 just suggesting alternative channels if you may not succeed
10:06 Prot0 :)
10:08 tuxie Prot0: Tried that, but that page is a jumbled mess, and so are most of the things it links to :/
10:08 SargoDarya mornin
10:09 Prot0 did you try out dmitrys book? :-)
10:09 Prot0 https://www.packtpub.com/typo3-extension-development/book
10:09 tuxie Prot0: Its on its way here atm, via snailmail :P
10:09 Prot0 hehe
10:09 Prot0 gotta love snailmail
10:10 Prot0 i think thats a pretty good start
10:10 Prot0 isnt there and ebook version of it as well?
10:24 StaffanE Has anybody heard if 4.4b3 will be released any time soon? The Wiki-page states that it should been released yesterday
10:28 StaffanE Found a message on the maillist - postponed until the 25 of may
10:28 Prot0 i think yesterday in 1 week
10:29 Prot0 :D
10:33 PiMB StaffanE, mailinglist is right
10:33 PiMB Benni mailed it, and he's release manager for 4.4, so you have to be patient for another week
10:37 dec__ anyone got an example of how i can make an odd/even menu? <li class="odd"></li> <li class="even"></li> etc
10:38 PiMB optionsplit
10:38 dec__ hmm
10:39 dec__ yeap, cheers
10:39 PiMB :)
10:39 PiMB np
10:43 tuxie Great
10:44 tuxie Typo3 bails completely on my setup, when php throws an warning that ereg_replace is deprecated >_>
10:45 fake51 tuxie, time to update
10:46 tuxie fake51: Update? Downloaded this yesterday.
10:47 tuxie Just using the extension wizard thingy. I suppose i could just lower error_reporting, but..
10:47 fake51 tuxie, that's odd ... pretty sure those went away when I updated
10:47 fake51 are you using E_STRICT?
10:48 tuxie fake51: I don't think so. PHP 5.3 just throws that warning whenever that function is used in the default config, or so it seems.
10:48 PiMB where is the ereg used?
10:49 tuxie "typo3conf/ext/kickstarter/sections/class.tx_kickstarter_section_fields.php:". line 266
10:50 PiMB this might help?
10:50 PiMB http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=11691
10:51 PiMB got it from here http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//96634/
10:51 PiMB could also try changing ereg_replace with preg_replace
10:51 tuxie PiMB: Not the same error...
10:51 fake51 tuxie, also not Typo3 bailing but T3 extensions
10:52 fake51 leaves you in the same mess, though
10:52 tuxie But yes, could do that, and spend some time throwing out the garbage, or i could lower the error_reporting. I'll lower the error_reporting level, even though i am a lazy bastard for doing so.
10:52 PiMB tuxie, second link is
10:53 tuxie fake51: But is it the standard behaviour to bail when a warning is thrown, or is that something just this extension does?
10:53 PiMB tuxie, be aware that T3 also has a deprecation_log nowadays, located in typo3conf folder
10:53 PiMB you can disable that in install tool, otherwise that file will grow big rapidly with those warnings.
10:54 tuxie Woo, german. *tries to remember his classes in it..*
10:54 fake51 tuxie, it depends on where you get it: T3 uses a lot of redirection which will not work with those warnings
10:54 fake51 I installed 4.2.10 on php 5.3: it was unusable 100%
10:54 dec__ when programming extensions, is it possible to connect to a different database than the typo3 one?
10:54 PiMB it is
10:54 fake51 unless I dropped error notices
10:54 dec__ thank god
10:55 dec__ :p
10:57 tuxie Is there a good place to lower error_reporting? O.o
10:57 PiMB in the install tool :)
10:57 PiMB php.ini file
10:57 PiMB change it from display to log
10:58 tuxie PiMB: Won't that STILL throw the "error" though?
11:00 tuxie I mean, it should not show the error, sure, but if you have error handlers registered they should still get a copy of it, which would land me in the same situation O.o
11:00 PiMB yep, but the problem with throwing it in display is that you automatically get a headers_already_send error most of the time.
11:00 Bluespuke hello
11:00 tuxie PiMB: Not in this case, or so it seems.
11:00 PiMB and thats messes up things, most of the times.
11:00 PiMB hm, strange then.
11:01 Bluespuke i'm searching a plugin/script/... to make pagebreaks like wordpress in a simple cotent element. any hints?
11:01 PiMB i've used the log method for quite some time now, and never ran into such a problem.
11:01 PiMB but has been a long time ago I did a clean install as well.
11:02 tuxie PiMB: The problem in this case is that it just halts the execution directly for a small warning.
11:04 tuxie If i lower the error_reporting, it would not throw the error at all. So its either that or spend hours editing the plugin :/
11:06 PiMB easy choice then
11:07 fake51 should be noted that converting ereg_* calls is easy
11:07 fake51 but yeah, choice is likely easy
11:08 tuxie PiMB: Yeah. Hmm. Going to grab something to eat fist
11:08 PiMB bon appetit
11:09 tuxie Thanks <3 *poff*
12:50 dreier-schmiede hiho, can someone confirm that there is no posibilty to insert a shortcut inside a shortcut?
12:50 PiMB what do you mean?
12:51 PiMB shortcut to a page that is a shortcut>
12:51 dreier-schmiede the content element shortcut.
12:51 PiMB ah like that.
12:51 dreier-schmiede sry. ;)
12:51 PiMB don't know, haven't done it
12:51 dreier-schmiede can you try?
12:52 dreier-schmiede ny problem is, that the content of the first shortcut is not shown in the shortcut of the shortcut *hmpf*
12:52 dreier-schmiede shott short short ;)
12:55 PiMB confirmed.
12:55 PiMB doesn't show up
12:56 dreier-schmiede k
12:56 dreier-schmiede thx a lot
13:22 Owner Hello friends, I have normaly HMENU as rootline type starting 1 level, and I need, if this option result is blank/empty, then put in the value the page header. I can put my COA snippet somewhere, what is the URL to put the code? Thank you
13:23 PiMB t3paste.org
13:28 Owner PiMB thanks
13:28 Owner Can some help me please? See http://paste.phlogi.net/if_the_hmenu_rootline_type_is-1/. Thank you
13:35 magres Hi friends
13:36 Owner Hello
13:36 Owner Can some help me please? See http://paste.phlogi.net/if_the_hmenu_rootline_type_is-1/. Thank you
13:36 PiMB Owner, where do you want the pageHeader?
13:36 PiMB instead of title?
13:36 Owner PiMB, istead of 10 (HMENU) if it is empty
13:36 PiMB And asking one time, is enough..
13:36 Owner the rootline menu
13:36 magres Please tell me, can I delete page in [feeditadvanced] ?
13:37 Owner sorry
13:37 Owner PiMB, sorry, can you help me<
13:37 PiMB ifempty only works like a display or display not, not like an if / else
13:39 Owner PiMB, so can you help me with another alternative<
13:39 PiMB proper way is to create a 10 and a 15 and give the 10 an ifTrue and the 15 ifFalse so if there is a title, then 10 is shown, if there's not, then page header is shown
13:39 PiMB http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TSref/if
13:40 PiMB check this for reference
13:41 PiMB brb
13:43 Owner PiMB, ok, but where or how can I can struct it with isTrue?
13:44 Owner Just kickstart me
13:52 influenjaa Hi! Is it possible to remove lzgallery-s ###SEARCH### input?
13:52 influenjaa overriding from setup wont remove it
13:53 maholtz|WORK @influenjaa: looks like an marker, cant you remove it from the template?
13:53 maholtz|WORK Owner: field title cannot be empty
13:54 maholtz|WORK or you meant HMENU could be empty?
13:54 maholtz|WORK than use ifempty
13:54 maholtz|WORK stdWrap.ifEmpty = what ever you want
13:54 Owner maholtz|WORK check http://paste.phlogi.net/if_the_hmenu_rootline_type_is-1/, here it is described under 10...
13:55 maholtz|WORK tried with ifEmpty?
13:55 Owner maholtz|WORK i dont know how to combine the conditions... help
13:55 maholtz|WORK 10.stdWrap.ifEmpty =
13:55 influenjaa maholtz|WORK: its a plugin that puts ###SEARCH### to some specific location and replaces it automatically with various DIVs and Forms...
13:56 Owner maholtz|WORK, like that? 10.stdWrap.ifEmpty = This is value if Empty
13:56 maholtz|WORK @influenjaa: you want to remove it, or override? remove should be easy, just remove it from the templates
13:57 maholtz|WORK @Owner: works?
13:57 influenjaa hmm, i quess override is right word...
13:57 influenjaa is the right word*
13:58 influenjaa it creates an input but i just dont want it to be created by the plugin
13:58 maholtz|WORK @influenjaa: ok, if it is possible depends on the extension, so i cannot help you with that. If you understand php, it would be helpfull to have a look at the source code
13:58 Owner maholtz|WORK, yea. Great. cmuck hihi, now i go to put here the page header
13:59 maholtz|WORK @Owner: do you know http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Ts45min, perhaps it helps to understand how typoscript works
14:00 Owner maholtz|WORK, no I dont, I bookmark it and going to read it. Thanks
14:01 maholtz|WORK there are differnt languages, if it helps
14:03 Owner ok, subquestion, can I do 10.stdWrap.ifEmpty = TEXT?
14:06 Owner maholtz|WORK
14:09 HardPhuck ah
14:10 Owner maholtz|WORK, ok I got it.
14:10 Owner all: Thanks to all
14:10 HardPhuck I see TYPO3 development picked it's pace, what happened
14:21 maholtz|WORK @Owner: hth :)
14:21 _tuxie Gah, typo3 overrides my error_reporting settings :E
14:32 soee hi
14:36 PiMB HardPhuck, what you mean?
14:36 Fruchthoernschen ho
14:45 bacardi_ hi ho
14:45 HardPhuck PiMP well about a year ago it seemed T3 development stopped. No news, rarely any useful updates, noone seemed to care
14:45 PiMB Hi
14:45 PiMB All on background it seems.
14:45 HardPhuck but now i see a lot of news on T3 website
14:45 PiMB I guess they've noticed how important it is to keep the information coming.
14:46 bacardi_ can someone tell me if its possible to update between beta versions and how
14:46 HardPhuck and if i compare time from 4.2 => 4.3 i think it's twice the time than 4.3 => 4.4
14:46 bacardi_ to update
14:46 bacardi_ use 4.4 beta2
14:46 PiMB HardPhuck, probably because 4.3 and 4.4. are in development simultaneously
14:46 HardPhuck bacardi_: sure, just update the symlink
14:46 PiMB bacardi_ just like updating a regular source
14:46 HardPhuck then go to install tool, Update Wizard and set it up
14:48 bacardi_ im happy now i installed typo successfull , 4 weeks i need to install it
14:48 HardPhuck not sure what you mean
14:48 bacardi_ have had install problems
14:49 HardPhuck what kind of install problems
14:49 bacardi_ every time message password to install is not correct
14:49 HardPhuck try joh316 :)
14:49 bacardi_ joh316 was no accecpted
14:49 HardPhuck then you probably updated it
14:50 bacardi_ no really not
14:50 bacardi_ i think the problem was a php setting
14:50 bacardi_ safe mode maybe?
14:50 HardPhuck not sure, did you try turing it off/on ?
14:51 bacardi_ yes i dont know what was wrong try so many but now it works
14:52 HardPhuck ok then it works :)
14:52 _tuxie Halp? Is there anywhere that typo3 overrides the error_reporting level.
14:54 bacardi_ is typo3 free for commercial use?
14:54 _tuxie bacardi_: Yes
14:54 _tuxie bacardi_: Its free under the GPL, so, they have no say ;P
14:54 bacardi_ but i think if i make it for our sportclub in city we donate
14:56 bacardi_ is beta3 out now?
14:58 bacardi_ is Kasper Skårhøj sometimes here?
15:00 HardPhuck he is not
15:02 Prot0 no and no :-)
15:02 bacardi_ is a flow3 alpha version for download aviable or only for alpha tester
15:03 Prot0 you can get the latest version of the trunk from SVN
15:03 Prot0 http://flow3.typo3.org/download/
15:03 HardPhuck bacardi_: it says on the website
15:03 bacardi_ oh thanks
15:05 Prot0 latest version available is alpha8
15:06 bacardi_ im a beginner should i learn with typo 4.4 or flow3 :) ?
15:08 HardPhuck bacardi_: typo3 and flow3 can't be compared directly
15:08 HardPhuck so if you are a beginner learn PHP :)
15:08 HardPhuck and HTML+CSS
15:09 xenilio hi
15:10 xenilio i've got a strange problem. on my typo3 page, i cannot access pages anymore that are sub pages of the root page, however i can access all other subpages (which are not directly sub pages of the root page, but one layer deeper)
15:11 HardPhuck as an administrator?
15:11 xenilio no, as a visitor
15:11 xenilio in the frontend
15:12 HardPhuck by can't access you mean... ?
15:12 xenilio i always land on the home page
15:12 xenilio i.e. the root page
15:12 PiMB do you use realurl?
15:13 PiMB or something similar?
15:13 xenilio yes
15:13 xenilio realurl
15:13 PiMB are you able to access the page when you do index.php?id=#idOfSubpageOfRoot
15:13 xenilio PiMB: yes, i just saw that
15:13 xenilio i am able
15:14 PiMB then there's a problem with your rewrites
15:14 PiMB linux?
15:14 PiMB or windows?
15:14 xenilio linux
15:15 HardPhuck xenilio: default .htaccess?
15:15 maholtz|WORK someone here uses TYPO3 4.3 - can you check if it is possible to add O via rte?
15:15 HardPhuck or did you modify it
15:15 xenilio HardPhuck: need to have a look
15:15 PiMB maholtz|WORK, I have it.
15:15 xenilio i did not modify it, but perhaps someone else did
15:15 maholtz|WORK i get "102: These fields are not properly updated in database: (bodytext) Probably value mismatch with fieldtype."
15:15 PiMB and what O do you want to add?
15:15 maholtz|WORK &Omega;
15:15 PiMB just a sec.
15:16 xenilio http://pastebin.com/PKCN1dwc that is the .htaccess file
15:16 xenilio seems normal to me
15:17 PiMB do you use a custom config for realurl?
15:17 PiMB just to check. did you try clearing your realurl cache? (backup first)
15:18 HardPhuck xenilio: can you give the url
15:18 xenilio this is my reaulurl config: http://pastebin.com/h6tZi2xn
15:18 PiMB @ maholtz|WORK, yeah, no problems here
15:18 xenilio HardPhuck: sure: http://www.pfarrei-judas-thaddaeus.de
15:18 PiMB but it does insert it as © and not as &Omega;
15:18 maholtz|WORK strange, ok thanks
15:19 maholtz|WORK ah, ok
15:19 xenilio PiMB: i did not clear the realurl cache
15:19 xenilio where can i do that?
15:19 PiMB @ maholtz|WORK, if I add 01&Omega; to the html then it saves it as the sign again, and no &Omega; is in the source.
15:20 PiMB but it is saveable.
15:20 maholtz|WORK ok, but you cannot insert &Omega; to show it on your website, right?
15:20 HardPhuck xenilio: hangon i'll give you a bit simplified config this one is way to complicated
15:20 xenilio HardPhuck: thank you
15:23 PiMB xenilio, do you have the boolean for simulate static documents disabled in your typoscript?
15:24 bacardi_ overFLOW :)
15:24 xenilio PiMB: i'll check
15:24 xenilio config.simulateStaticDocuments = 0
15:25 PiMB config.simulateaStaticDocuments = 0
15:25 PiMB yeah indeed
15:25 xenilio is that how it should be?
15:25 xenilio the strange thing is - the site has been working without problems for over a year now
15:25 xenilio just about half a week ago i changed something about the permissions
15:26 xenilio but i cannot see the connection to realurl, perhaps that was not the trigger of the problem
15:26 PiMB did something change on server side?
15:27 PiMB upgrades of apache or something
15:27 xenilio i'm not exactly sure, i do not own the server or have any influence - i'm just having a look at typo3 from time to time
15:27 HardPhuck xenilio: http://pastebin.com/xrUNvzWy
15:27 xenilio it's a webspace
15:27 HardPhuck use this config (but don't delete the old one, just in case :)
15:27 xenilio so it's rather probable that there are updates from time to time
15:28 xenilio HardPhuck: thank you. do you think that will fix the problem?
15:28 PiMB HardPhuck, where did all the postVarSets go?
15:29 HardPhuck PiMB: i think those were not important (i just had a fast look)
15:29 xenilio well, the problem still exists
15:29 HardPhuck hm
15:29 xenilio i do not think it is a config issue, because the config worked for over a year
15:29 HardPhuck yeah
15:29 HardPhuck brb
15:30 xenilio i can only think of a software update on the server side, or of some strange connection to me changing some permissions about half a week ago
15:30 xenilio i cannot tell, unfortunately, since when the problem exists
15:30 xenilio but actually changing the permissions should not cause such a problem, or do I overlook something?
15:31 bacardi_ someone can tell me a good site with free typo3 templates
15:31 HardPhuck bacardi_: typo3 doesn't have an easy point and click way to install templates
15:32 HardPhuck xenilio: did the permissions change on source files?
15:32 xenilio HardPhuck: no, only inside TYPO3
15:33 xenilio i.e. I created a group and granted access on the calendar and changed the owner group of my page to that group
15:34 xenilio could that cause such a problem?
15:35 HardPhuck no
15:35 PiMB xenilio, you did WHAT?
15:35 PiMB no, just kidding..
15:35 xenilio i am thinking about simply deactivating realurl...
15:35 PiMB could try that.
15:36 HardPhuck did you clear the cache?
15:36 PiMB did you take a look at the cache tables.
15:36 HardPhuck realurl cache that is
15:36 PiMB tx_realurl_pathcache if I'm correct..
15:36 HardPhuck i usually truncate all realurl tables to be sure :)
15:37 xenilio why did you advise me to make a backup first?
15:37 xenilio could clearing the cache have any bad consequences?
15:37 HardPhuck no, not really
15:37 HardPhuck i advised to back up configuration files
15:37 PiMB because of learning the hard way after I did that one time.
15:38 HardPhuck PiMB: really? :)
15:38 PiMB but that was just once in a couple of hundred sites.
15:38 PiMB yeah mate.
15:38 HardPhuck how could clearing realurl tables affect your website?
15:38 PiMB wasn't build by me, and they added a lot of hardcoded links to pages with realurl names, so not rendered, just hardcoded in templates
15:38 HardPhuck ah
15:38 HardPhuck ok
15:39 PiMB after caching, it turned out they changed some page names, and half of the site wasn't working :)P
15:39 HardPhuck i can imagine
15:39 PiMB so nowadays, I make a quick backup of the table, if just in a notepad file.
15:39 PiMB empty it.
15:39 PiMB check the site
15:39 PiMB if it works, empty the backup
15:39 xenilio lol, deactivating and reactivating realurl did the trick :D
15:39 PiMB just to be sure
15:39 PiMB great :)
15:39 xenilio thanks for your help
15:39 PiMB I guess then indeed DB was the problem.
15:39 PiMB btw, there is a new extension for that one.
15:39 PiMB Prot0 did that.
15:40 HardPhuck which one
15:40 xenilio PiMB: what do you mean by DB was the problem?
15:40 Prot0 =]
15:40 xenilio can you think of any cause?
15:40 xenilio i dont want it to appen again
15:40 PiMB nope, sorry
15:40 PiMB @ HardPhuck: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/realurl_clearcache/current/
15:40 PiMB with points going to Prot0
15:40 PiMB :)
15:41 PiMB adds a 'clear realurl cache' button to your menu in top left.
15:41 PiMB real easy.
15:41 PiMB doesn.t make the BCK though ;)
15:41 HardPhuck good, i was tired of doing it manually :)
15:41 Prot0 nope
15:41 Prot0 its cache
15:41 Prot0 i see a feature req though ;-)
15:42 HardPhuck xenilio: make sure you visit your pages every once in a while
15:42 PiMB xenilio, don't really now the problem, could be some change in server (changing the hashing for instance), or maybe the server just got a bit dislectic..
15:42 HardPhuck and install the extension PiMB posted
15:42 PiMB you'll probably never know :)
15:42 xenilio HardPhuck: i just did
15:43 xenilio well, it's not really my page, i'm just consulted from time to time by the maintainer, that's why i don't really care visiting it frequently
15:43 PiMB you could setup a crawler to visit your page on a regular basis
15:43 HardPhuck it looks very outdated, you might consider a facelift :)
15:48 PiMB @ HardPhuck, then what are you doing all day?
15:48 PiMB ;
15:49 HardPhuck Expression Engine websites :D
15:49 HardPhuck better for blog-like and presentational websites
15:49 HardPhuck and some custom CakePHP programming these days
15:50 PiMB nice
15:53 HardPhuck ograje-komar.si <= my last T3
15:54 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: which country?
15:54 HardPhuck Slovenia
15:57 maholtz|WORK nice to know :)
15:57 HardPhuck it was for my uncle so i didn't make much money with it :)
15:58 maholtz|WORK and do you think it was a good decision to use TYPO3 ?
15:58 HardPhuck Of course, because i have several small websites pointing to the same installation
15:59 HardPhuck for my relatives mostly :)
15:59 HardPhuck so i have one BE with which i control multiple websites
16:00 maholtz|WORK yep, thats a nice thing (if the websites are not to big :)
16:00 HardPhuck pok-sp.si
16:00 HardPhuck this one points to the same install, for example
16:02 HardPhuck hmm just noticed it doesn't validate, i'll need to fix that
16:03 HardPhuck i hate if websites don't validate
16:03 maholtz|WORK imho sometimes it is not possible, f.e. if you want to use new features
16:03 maholtz|WORK i like the footer, nice idea
16:03 HardPhuck thanx
16:04 maholtz|WORK and the map - what is it, it is not google maps, is it open?
16:04 HardPhuck it's from slovenian search engine
16:04 HardPhuck tiny google clone so to speak :)
16:04 maholtz|WORK interesting :)
16:05 HardPhuck google maps alternative - it only supports Slovenia
16:05 HardPhuck and it's more accurate for this region, that's why I chose it
16:06 HardPhuck anyways i'm off to go home, later
16:08 PiMB bue
16:08 PiMB bye
16:32 claydy hey
16:32 claydy i got a problem installing IM
16:33 claydy i can't get typo3 to find my installation
16:33 claydy what i did: downloaded IM 4.2.9, uploaded it via ftp to the webserver
16:34 claydy and then in typo3 i m entering the complete path to /im/bin/
16:34 claydy what could be casuing the problem?
16:37 PiMB file rights?
16:39 claydy nope
16:40 PiMB is TYPO3 recognizing an im installation in your path?
16:40 claydy what do you mean?
16:40 claydy when i enter the path and click on send it just says that im isn't there
16:40 PiMB then IM isn't there :)
16:41 PiMB or can't be found
16:41 PiMB are you sure T3 has proper rights to read that.
16:42 claydy whats the rights code supposed to be
16:42 claydy cant find it right now
16:42 PiMB I don't know
16:43 claydy k i ll try google ;)
16:50 claydy google: 755i changed the rights to 755 -> still nothing
16:50 soee i have menu created from images, ACT works ok buy i cant do HO working, any idea ?
16:51 soee *RO
17:21 ironm hi SargoDarya
17:24 SargoDarya hi ironm
21:32 Denyerec Evenin all.
21:46 bacardi_ flow3 is more difficult to install :(
21:51 Denyerec than ?
21:52 foertel hi
21:52 foertel hi lolli_
21:53 Fruchthoernschen hehe ;)
22:00 foertel ouch ;)
22:00 foertel Revised for TYPO3 3.6 June/2003 by Kasper Skaarhoj
22:00 foertel the deeper you digg the stranger things you'll find *g
22:05 Fruchthoernschen Is there a good Backend Modul Ext. Which helps me creating Amazing Backend Modules?? ;)
22:06 foertel Fruchthoernschen: building backend modules really sucks
22:06 Fruchthoernschen lol
22:06 Fruchthoernschen ~~;)
22:06 Fruchthoernschen sometimes
22:06 Fruchthoernschen at the beginning
22:07 Fruchthoernschen but now it's okay, there is not many special needings while creating backend Modules and function for creating Markers and templating is easely selfcreated or I think it's possible to use substituteMarker from cObj ( static )
22:08 foertel and ... erm ... it sucks
22:08 foertel *g*
22:08 foertel you are not able to build up your links right
22:08 Fruchthoernschen but I want to get an SelectBox like known in TCA Forms or Backend TreeBrowser/List View for getting an Select Box/View for Articles ..
22:08 foertel your not able to render images through cObj
22:08 foertel you don't have propper handling of piVars
22:09 Fruchthoernschen hehe ;) cObj is possible to use ;) when you know how
22:09 foertel no
22:09 foertel it's possible to use
22:09 foertel but not intended
22:09 foertel so it becomes hacky
22:09 foertel there is no "clean" solution ... of course it works ... somehow
22:09 Fruchthoernschen hm piVars okay that's only an array of Get/post
22:10 foertel but look at how much effort it takes you to just grab the actual page's TS in your backend module
22:10 foertel of course you can do it
22:10 foertel but it's the opposite of fun ;)
22:10 Fruchthoernschen http://www.typo3-scout.de/2008/05/28/cobject-im-backend/ (Today I have sumbit there the corrected Code which works for me)
22:10 Fruchthoernschen hm yes okay ;)
22:10 Fruchthoernschen it's not really nice coding Backend Modules ;)
22:11 foertel that's what i say ;)
22:12 Fruchthoernschen hmm let's see what the TER says, if there is an additional Api or so
22:12 Fruchthoernschen but for getting an reliable Backend Form for an Ext. there are some well-working functions.
22:13 Fruchthoernschen t3button, spacer, section, table,getTabMenu..
22:13 Fruchthoernschen but ImageProccessing hm yes nothing found
22:30 Fruchthoernschen api_macmade sounds nice ;)
23:34 Denyerec Fruchthoernschen
23:34 Denyerec There is an extension, the name escapes me rtight now
23:34 Denyerec if you give me a moment
23:35 Fruchthoernschen yes ;)
23:35 Fruchthoernschen I give you a moment ;) what a timing ;)
23:35 Denyerec Here you go
23:35 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/sav_library/3.1.3/view/
23:35 Fruchthoernschen started the coding the first Lines with macmade Api, look great exactly what I needed
23:36 Fruchthoernschen let see
23:39 Fruchthoernschen hmm
23:39 Fruchthoernschen looks like an frontend Api
23:40 Fruchthoernschen needed some good functions for the Backend, macmade "makes" the api ;)
23:40 Fruchthoernschen but thanks Denyerec
23:40 Fruchthoernschen looks nice and good to know for the the next Ext. which I will code..
23:46 Denyerec Ahh
23:46 Denyerec Right sorry I misunderstood
23:46 Denyerec You want a module that is JUST in the backend
23:51 Fruchthoernschen yes ;) I called it "Module" because kickstater and TYPO3 Internal Documents learned me this name? or because the subFolder under the ExtKey Folder is namned mod((\d)+)
23:51 Fruchthoernschen but it's good to know about macmade I think
23:51 Fruchthoernschen very helpfully
23:52 Fruchthoernschen And many ppl downloaed it. look good
23:52 Fruchthoernschen let's see what I will create.

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