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00:25 snoy_ms challet: how do you fixed it ?
00:34 challet snoy_ms: with the $pageRenderer you told me to use ;)
00:37 snoy_ms ChanServ: cool. didn't have an extension to test. Good to know ;-)
00:38 snoy_ms ChanServ: check out building extensions with extbase.....also nice...
00:38 snoy_ms have to go...cu
08:17 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:30 [SySteM] Hello
08:30 [SySteM] I search an information about "mount as treeroot" on the extended menu
08:31 [SySteM] On the last version 4.3.3 its seems to be "temporary?"
08:31 [SySteM] Need to click to mount this.. and need to cancel the temp to return to the principal menu
08:31 [SySteM] is there any solution to have this as before ?
08:32 [SySteM] (not temporary)Ã
08:50 marcuslind Anyone know where there is documentation for the Indexed Search Engine? It wont work for me. I search but I dont get any results, as if the extension hasnt indexed the content of my website. How do I make it index my site?
09:00 pmk65 good morning
09:00 FloLeBlanc marcuslind: if you want autoindexing you need the crawler extension
09:00 FloLeBlanc otherwise you'll only get pages indexed that people visited already
09:01 FloLeBlanc the crawler extension does the "page visiting" for you if you do a cron for it
09:01 FloLeBlanc hi pmk65
09:03 Prot0 morning
09:03 PiMB morning
09:14 maholtz|WORK morning
09:17 Prot0 morning :-)
09:18 snoy_ms morning, too
09:20 xaver page.10.marks.PRINT < temPRINT #work plugin.tt_products.marks.TEST-PRINT < tempPRINT # dont work
09:20 xaver how can i get the PRINT Marker into TT_PRODUCTS
09:22 xaver PiMB any idear, i think i forget something simpel
09:23 FloLeBlanc morning
09:24 maholtz|WORK @xaer: well, does tt_products implements an marker replacement vor "marks"?
09:24 FloLeBlanc if you search for a simple error: did you clear the cache? ;)
09:25 iaj hmmm I've got a problem - I just enabled install tool and checked the sendmail() function - and it seems to be working flawlessly - however since yesterday we get error messages that mails through powermail couldnt be delivered..?? Any clue?
09:25 iaj morning btw :D
09:26 maholtz|WORK @iaj: what is the error message?
09:26 xaver maholtz|WORK: with makrs i get output COA without marks -> marker dont replaced
09:26 marcuslind FloLeBlanc: So what you are saying is that I only need to browse around on the website and the sites will be indexed automatically?
09:26 iaj I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. - sth like that we get from our mailserver
09:27 iaj so its not a typo problem .. correct?
09:27 maholtz|WORK @xaver: marks.TEST-PRINT = TEXT marks.TEST-PRINT.value = hello world works?
09:27 FloLeBlanc marcus: you or your users
09:28 maholtz|WORK @iaj: i would say yes. Maybe the mail header created by TYPO3 is not correct... but your mailserver should give you a hint about the reason
09:29 iaj maholtz|WORK: well the problem is that problem only occured since yesterday - we didn't change a thing tho.. ?
09:29 marcuslind FloLeBlanc: I've been visiting the site, and my client has been working with it for a couple of days but still the search function isnt working. I search, I get "No results found" message.
09:29 marcuslind Is there not a "Index website" button?
09:29 maholtz|WORK @marcuslind: perhaps your whole site is "not cached"
09:30 FloLeBlanc did you include the search template inserts?
09:30 marcuslind How do I set that? I doubt it since my website is a mirror/copy from another site that's working perfectly.
09:30 FloLeBlanc <!--TYPO3SEARCH_begin--> / <!--TYPO3SEARCH_end-->
09:30 marcuslind FloLeBlanc: You mean in my index.html-template files?
09:30 FloLeBlanc you use that to make sure that your menu and other fancy stuff is not indexed all the time
09:30 FloLeBlanc marcus: yes
09:31 FloLeBlanc I use these tags in my templates
09:31 FloLeBlanc every page has "search begin" and "search end"
09:31 FloLeBlanc to make sure the breadcrumb, menu, etc is not indexed
09:31 maholtz|WORK @marcuslind: check modul info - there you should see what has been indexed
09:32 marcuslind Ah ye, I got those tags in my content area
09:32 xaver maholtz|WORK: tt_products has marks in class.tx_ttproducts_marker.php
09:32 xaver if (is_array($this->conf['marks.'])) { foreach ......
09:33 xaver why i get always COA? only frist line of the typoscript
09:34 maholtz|WORK @xaver ah, ok because it does not get replaces, check if marks.Yourmarker = hello
09:34 maholtz|WORK marks.Yourmarker.wrap = | world
09:34 maholtz|WORK works
09:34 maholtz|WORK then you can use stdWrap
09:35 maholtz|WORK marks.Yourmarker.cObject < lib.yourcoa would be then the solution
09:38 Phlunk3 does anyone know how to add a checkbox to an sr_feuser_register form which will be required to be checked but isnt based off a database field?
09:39 Prot0 erm
09:39 Prot0 Phlunk3: i know you can hook the validator for sr_feuser_register
09:39 Prot0 no clue on how it will react on a custom field
09:39 Prot0 :9#
09:45 Prot0 maybe it reacts on the fields or the data passed on through the pivars
09:45 HardPhuck hey
09:46 xaver maholtz|WORK: thx
09:47 FloLeBlanc hi hardphuck
09:51 marcuslind I've done some further testing with my search-module on my website and it seems as if it index some parts. If I search for some headlines I do get result, but not all of them. Also, I'm having some trouble searching on the content-text, it finds some but most has not been indexed. I've cleared the cache. Anyone know why it seems to index some parts but not all? Also I've checked the <!--TYPO3SEARCH_begin--> and end--> tags. They are wrapping my co
10:05 maholtz|WORK @marcuslind: you can check what gets indexed via info modul, i would have a look at that to get an overview
10:32 HardPhuck indexed search should be banned from TYPO3 :)
10:35 pmk65 HardPhuck: +1 or at least removed from "core extensions" (and so should felogin until it's 100% working, and has a usable manual)
10:35 nd__ What do you use instead?
10:35 HardPhuck google search, yahoo boss, mnogosearch,...
10:36 HardPhuck all can be plugged into a TYPO3 site and fully customized
10:36 HardPhuck all free as well
10:37 nd__ and they do respect fe-user-permissions?
10:37 nd__ Without that, it's easy... but if that's required I see no alternative to indexed_search as much as I hate it
10:37 kevinmo hi
10:38 HardPhuck nd: permissions in what sense?
10:38 pmk65 http://www.typo3-solr.com/en/home/
10:39 pmk65 currently requires donations, but is the best search solution fir TYPO3
10:39 nd__ Say you have half of your page only for fe-users who are member of group a, then if they search they should get everything, members of b should only see the public stuff
10:40 nd__ pmk65: Sounds good, again do you know if that supports permissions?
10:40 nd__ If not I'll read through their docs :)
10:41 HardPhuck nd: mnogosearch is a typo3 plugin to the search engine so I think it can support that, but check out the docs to be sure
10:41 nd__ Last time I checked it wasn't possible but Dmitry was looking for a sponsor of such a feature
10:41 HardPhuck as for google and yahoo, i doubt it. But then again, check their docs, you might be suprised :)
10:42 nd__ HardPhuck: google and yahoo can't as they're not integrated into the backend of t3, right?
10:42 nd__ HardPhuck: They're only good for a public search... (nice enough, not for my requirement though)
10:42 HardPhuck yes, but maybe they have some configuration options for that
10:43 HardPhuck truth be told i've never needed any permission based search
10:43 nd__ I wish i'd be the same here
10:49 HardPhuck what kind of a site uses permission based search? :)
10:49 HardPhuck like intranet/
10:49 nd__ yes indeed
10:49 HardPhuck a hybrid website/intranet :)
10:50 nd__ Actually just an intranet
10:51 HardPhuck never done any intranets really
10:51 pmk65 permissions work in TYPO3/SOLR -> http://www.typo3-solr.com/en/solr-for-typo3/feature-list/frontend-user-group-access-restrictions/
10:52 nd__ sold
10:52 nd__ ;D
10:52 nd__ 80% is more or less what indexed_search can do :D
10:52 nd__ guys, how do I enable the 'extended' tab for a user/group (BE)? Can't seem to find it
10:54 Georges_Abitbol I have a strange behaviour with tt_news and cache (I think).
10:56 Georges_Abitbol I have news latest on homepage, a listing page and a single page. I click on a news on homepage. The link is ok, all is good on page (html, ...) except that the news is not displayed. If I clear the cache, the news single is displayed. But if I go back ot homepage, the lattests are not displayed anymore.... Does anyone know what could do this ?
10:57 Georges_Abitbol I work on 4.3.3
10:57 nd__ Without having a real clue  did you change the caching to the caching framework or something like that in the extension configuration?
11:01 wam Hi, I'm trying to host typo3 on cherokee with php in fcgi mode. Looks good, installer ran, but the typo3 backend shows a 404 in the content area, because it's trying to load pages from http://typo3/alt_intro.php? - Any ideas?
11:01 wam The right url would be http://localhost.typo3:1234//typo3/alt_intro.php
11:02 Georges_Abitbol nd__: I have checked and I did not changed anything.
11:02 nd__ Georges_Abitbol: Did you recently upgrade from an older version of tt_news?
11:03 Georges_Abitbol perhaps another extension that extends tt_news. I'll disabled all other extensions to check
11:03 Georges_Abitbol nd__: No, it is a new installation (typo3 4.3.3 and tt_News 3.0)
11:03 nd__ Georges_Abitbol: ok, them I'm out... as said, no real clue
11:03 Georges_Abitbol nd__: thx anyway
11:03 Georges_Abitbol that's nice
11:07 FloLeBlanc georges: the new versions of tt_news have a flag that news are listed only ONCE, so if you have a list view AND a latest they will only appear in one of them - perhaps that is your issue
11:07 FloLeBlanc you can turn off that behaviour and list it in both views
11:08 wam Is it even possible to host typo3 without mod_php?
11:09 aterriblechaos wam: yes thats possible .. your problem sounds like some variables like hostname are not passed to fastcgi
11:13 wam aterriblechaos: right, but when I looked at phpinfo all looks right... http://pastie.org/979579
11:13 wam the single "wild" thing is TYPO3_SITE_SCRIPT.
11:15 aterriblechaos hm looks good wam .. a wild guess: .typo3 confuses something, i would try .local or something
11:16 wam aterriblechaos: lol, k thanks for the hint
11:18 coolguy hi there. is it possible to hide dot files in the filelist module?
11:24 tf hello
11:25 tf it is possible to render the output of an extension in different columns?
11:26 tf example: i have the plugin in column 0. but i want to render the output of this plugin in column 2.
11:27 tf in my ..._pi1.php
11:31 FloLeBlanc is there a reason why you can't just put the plugin in the other column? :)
11:43 FloLeBlanc someone using ak_mobile_device (mobile device detection) ?
11:45 iaj hm anyone got powermail working on "Show contents from page instead" sites?
11:47 tf FloLeBlanc: in my layout there are 2 columns. the main output should be in column 1 but some parts of the output should be in column 2.
11:47 tf and i dont want to put the plugin two times in each column
11:48 FloLeBlanc tf: then we are talking about 2 different things here. what you CAN do is a db select and get the output via TS
11:49 FloLeBlanc tf: very basic example: http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-771f7145db/
11:50 FloLeBlanc hmm does anyone have another suggestion on how to switch the template for mobile devices? (wurfl2 is a bit outdated it seems and mobile device detection won't work for me)
11:51 jangla Hi all. Wondering if anyone can help me with this - I'm trying to get more than one eID extension to work on a single page but from what I can tell, Typo3 doesn't like this. The moment I turn one of them off, the other works and vicec versa. Anyone have any experience in this area?
11:52 tf FloLeBlanc: thx. but this is not what iam looking for.
11:53 FloLeBlanc then I didn't understand what you want to do. if you want to render specific output of your ext just look at the template of the ext and extract the TS subpart and parse it in your template? hmm
11:53 FloLeBlanc perhaps you could describe what you actually want to do?
11:54 tf ok
11:56 tf i have an extension where u can fill in some information about a colleague. the informations are records. when i put the plugin f.e. in column 1 and select in the plugin colleague A, the information about this colleague is rendert in the frontend in column 1.
11:56 tf ok
11:56 tf but
11:57 tf the information about the address of this colleague should be rendert in column 2 in my FE.
11:57 tf and i dont want to put the plugin in the BE in column 1 AND column 2
11:58 tf you understand?
11:58 FloLeBlanc did you use the object browser to check if you can render subparts of the output?
11:58 FloLeBlanc like tx_something.address
11:59 tf there are no subparts
12:00 FloLeBlanc it this your own extension or an imported one?
12:00 tf my own
12:00 FloLeBlanc well then you can create subparts can't you?
12:00 FloLeBlanc I don't know how to do it but it has to work it works with tt_news and stuff :)
12:01 tf i dont know if tt_news can that
12:01 tf tt_news u have to put the plugin in every column you want something to display
12:02 FloLeBlanc hmm and you want to avoid that in the first place because?
12:02 tf you mean with subparts the subparts of my template?
12:02 tf i have subparts
12:03 tf but they are rendered in the column where the plugin is
12:03 FloLeBlanc I thought you were able to map them but I may be wrong - never tried that
12:04 tf i mean something like this: renderInColumn = 0; marker1 = row1; renderInColumn = 2; marker2 = row2; :)
12:05 FloLeBlanc hmm sorry out of ideas
12:05 tf ok
12:06 tf anyway, thx
12:10 jangla I'm trying to get more than one eID extension to work on a single page but from what I can tell, Typo3 doesn't like this. The moment I turn one of them off, the other works and vicec versa. Anyone have any experience in this area?
12:12 maholtz|WORK @tf: two possible solutions: put plugin in each column, but only render there what should rendered there ($this->cObj->data['colPos'] will give you the column, OR use REGISTER and put the content in different register and put them into the correct columns then
12:12 maholtz|WORK but you are working with an CMS, you should keep your editors in mind
12:12 maholtz|WORK imho
12:16 Fruchthoernschen heyHo
12:34 Denyerec2 Hallo all
12:35 Denyerec2 Any avid Netbeans users here?
12:36 HardPhuck Nay, Komodo IDE only :)
12:36 Denyerec2 Dang.
12:36 Denyerec2 My structure might be the cause of the problem, perhaps I explain...
12:36 Denyerec2 I'm creating a logger class
12:36 Denyerec2 but I want to be able to switch between logging to file, and logging to a memory array to dump to screen
12:37 Denyerec2 so I wanted to have screenLogger and fileLogger
12:37 Denyerec2 I decided to create a class "logger" and then based on the param passed to the constructor, return either new screenLogger() or new fileLogger()
12:37 Denyerec2 where screenLogger and fileLogger extend baseLogger
12:37 Denyerec2 Should they be extending the baseLogger class
12:38 Denyerec2 or should baseLogger be an interface that's implemented?
12:45 randomresult hello!
12:45 randomresult :)
12:50 randomresult i need a good subscription for newsletters (directmail) - any ideas?
12:57 Fruchthoernschen randomresult, you mean an simple ext. which handle the process for subcscriping without fe_users and with fe_users ? look at the TER there are
12:58 randomresult i only need a subscription... i have tt-adress installed... but no register for FE-User
12:58 randomresult i have no FE-User Section so i dont need a login
13:04 Fruchthoernschen yeah check the TER
13:10 iaj Anyone got an idea on how I can make powermail to work on pages where I just use "show contents from page instead" or insert records - which are powermail one's??? Checkboxes aren't working correctly there :(
13:15 wam aterriblechaos: thanks again, indeed it was the .typo3 tld which wrecked the installation ;)
13:15 aterriblechaos yay good guess ;)
13:24 jangla I'm trying to get more than one eID extension to work on a single page but from what I can tell, Typo3 doesn't like this. The moment I turn one of them off, the other works and vicec versa. Anyone have any experience in this area?
13:42 MikePer Hello. I somehow miss the csc-something styles, where do I enable or disable them?
13:46 Cyroq Hello, can somebody help me with replacing menu elements? I'm using a code that worked before, but it doesn't work anymore.
13:47 Cyroq This is de code I'm using:
13:47 Cyroq # Menu 1 cObject temp.menu1 = HMENU # First level menu-object, textual temp.menu1.1 = TMENU temp.menu1.1 { # Normal state properties NO.allWrap = <a href="../../../index.php?id=21" target="_self"><img src="fileadmin/templates/main/images/btn_pas_06.jpg" alt="" width="96" height="38" border="0"></a> # Enable active state and set properties: ACT = 1 ACT.allWrap = <a href="../../../index.php?id=21" target="_self"><img src="fileadmin/templates/m
13:47 MikePer And is there a way to insert a picture into the text in the editor? It seems there are only links possible.
13:47 Cyroq You have to select that you want image ánd text, I guess
14:00 vlt Hello. I want to add a <base ...> tag to the <head> section of every page. Where can I find such a global template?
14:01 Prot0 config.baseURL
14:01 Prot0 TS setup
14:01 vlt Prot0: Thanks
14:01 Prot0 np :-)
14:06 vlt Prot0: hmm, I'm looking in the wrong place, I think. I tried adding "$TYPO3_CONF_VARS['baseURL'] = 'http://www.example.com';" to my typo3conf/localconf.php but that didn#t work.
14:06 Prot0 lol
14:06 Prot0 TS setup =>
14:06 vlt Prot0: In the backend?
14:06 Prot0 TypoScript Setup
14:06 Prot0 of your root template
14:06 Prot0 yes
14:09 Neo Does anyone have some experience with submitToScript and rteHtmlArea?
14:09 vlt I can't even find a TypoScript link in the backend
14:09 Prot0 go to the root page of your website
14:10 Prot0 Web > List
14:10 vlt Prot0: Ok
14:11 vlt Prot0: On the right there's a Main template. There?
14:12 Prot0 Probably, should in the 'Template' table
14:12 vlt Prot0: Ok, found it. Thank you!
14:12 vlt Prot0: It works, btw ;-)
14:12 Prot0 :-)
14:13 Prot0 good
14:39 heyho hi all, what is the marker for image caption in tt_news?
14:41 heyho i just found NEWS_IMAGE, but nothing for caption?! is there no marker for caption?
14:47 MikePer Strange, I have CSS Styled COntent in my remplate but I don't get the styles in the generated css. Is there a way to disable it?
14:51 MikePer Oh I found it. Very troubesome.
15:13 MikePer Is there a way with the CSS Styled Content to have the caption at the right side of the picture?
15:13 ndee hello there, anyone knows how to add a page break manually in a tt_news article?
15:18 MikePer Just a guess, but add a <br/>?
15:18 neoneye I see a blank page when I click edit on a page and when I click edit on a pagecontent element. Have this happened to others?
15:19 ndee MikePer: not a line break but a page break, so that I can have a multi page article :)
15:19 MikePer ndee: Oh I see, sorry
15:19 neoneye I'm admin and if I switch user to a non-admin it happens as well
15:19 jd_ hi
15:19 Prot0 neoneye: seems like your getting php errors
15:20 Prot0 check your webservers error logs
15:20 neoneye I don't have access to the webservers error log :-(
15:20 neoneye unfortunately no ssh access
15:20 Prot0 usually they are available from FTP as well, otherwise it could be a number of things
15:21 Prot0 nearly impossible to guess :-)
15:21 neoneye yeah :-/
15:22 jd_ I've got a question related to plugin JS merging. I use some jQuery code (plugin and own stuff) in a typo3 plugin, these js get merged into the *.merged.js script. But it reports error of the following type : "[a big chunk of code] is not a function" where [a big chunk of code] is a whole jquery-aware code scope : (function($) { some code ...})(jQuery);
15:22 jd_ this technique of anonymous scope is pretty standard among the jquery community and standard js btw, so I don't figure out what's wrong here :)
15:33 pmk65 jd_: How do you merge the scripts together?
15:39 jd_ scriptmerger I guess. I merely included my js in my plugin with <script type="text/javascript" src="..."></script> tag, then included the plugin with page.20 = COA
15:39 jd_ page.20.1 < plugin.tx_af83chat_pi1 in the setup of my main template. It turned out there is some processing and merging, but I don't know anything about.
15:46 Fruchthoernschen hum hum
15:47 ckoehler so, who here was at t3con10-dallas?
15:59 pmk65 jd_: There's a bug in the TER version of scriptmerger. Stefan has fixed the bug in the version available at Forge. (The buggy version removes semicolons where it shouldn't be removed)
16:01 pmk65 I had the same problem a couple days ago.. BTW: You can grab the Forge version from my dropbox in t3x format if you want. - > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2241077/T3X_scriptmerger-3_0_6-z-201005181301.t3x
16:04 jd_ nice !
16:04 jd_ thank you very much
16:04 jd_ I'll give it a try asap
16:04 jd_ (pmk65)
16:04 pmk65 once I installed the Forge problem, all the merging errors dissappeared. :)
16:05 pmk65 forge problem = Forge version :D
16:29 marcuslind I just set a domain to a new website that just got finished. I changed the baseURL in the Setup to fit the new domain but when I enter any subpage I get a 404 error. The only page that works is the index site.
16:29 marcuslind Why is this? Is it TYPO3 problem? Is it the client that set his domain-settings wrong?
16:29 marcuslind .htaccess file is the same file as we always use
16:30 marcuslind realURL config is also the same
16:30 nd__ marcuslind: and you did clear the cache didn't you?
16:30 marcuslind Ye.
16:30 marcuslind more then onace.
16:30 marcuslind once*
16:31 nd__ And you did flush the cache in your browser?
16:31 marcuslind Ye
16:31 marcuslind I disabled realURL
16:31 marcuslind now it works.
16:31 marcuslind but how can that happen? I got same htaccess file and same realURL config as I use on 10 other websites
16:31 marcuslind they work flawless
16:32 nd__ hmm... probably flush the realurl cache too...
16:32 marcuslind How do I do that?
16:33 nd__ I don't know exactly  using cooluri most of the time. I'd say there's another extension or just flush by hand (using e.g. phpmyadmin)
16:34 marcuslind nd__: in the pathcache table?
16:34 james` hi i have a problem with the tt_news extension
16:34 marcuslind tx_realurl_pathcache
16:35 james` i have two pages
16:35 james` at one page i have a tt_news plugin (single)
16:35 nd__ marcuslind: I'd say so... look through it... are there wrong domains in it?
16:35 james` on the other a tt_news plugin (list)..
16:35 james` so only one page is working
16:36 marcuslind Thing is... I got a http://www.privatewebserver1098.hostcompany.com/client this is where I've developed the site. Here realURL work flawless.
16:36 james` if i clear the cache
16:36 marcuslind then I set the new domain to this adress, and changed the baseURL
16:36 james` and open page1, only page1 is working
16:36 nd__ marcuslind: I think we used http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/realurlmanagement/current/ for something like this
16:36 james` with page2 the same
16:37 james` only one page is working
16:39 marcuslind nd__: If I delete the properties that look weird, will it auto-generate new values then?
16:40 nd__ marcuslind: not sure... sorry. Try or wait if somebody knows for sure
16:40 MikePer Is it possible to deny access to the page content part of web>list?
16:41 james` are there any problems known about tt_news and 2 or more pages.. there is only one page working.. the one, which i open first after clearing cache
16:41 Prot0 MikePer: yes
16:42 Prot0 look in the access list of the back-end user group
16:44 MikePer Prot0: Unfortunately there is no back-end user group. I have a content manager group here but couldn't find the right flag. Could you direct me to it?
16:44 MikePer Ah, that IS a back-end group :)
16:44 Prot0 ;-)
16:44 Prot0 look for the access list, you can define very specifically what a user can and cannot edit
16:45 Prot0 or view
16:47 MikePer Prot0: But not web>list>page content
16:47 xaver http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/-c3a6b0b74c/ i try to use a random product
16:49 Prot0 you can restrict content as well
16:49 Prot0 Pagecontent
16:49 Prot0 got to go now
16:49 Prot0 cyas
16:49 MikePer heh :)
16:49 james` are there any problems known about tt_news and 2 or more pages.. there is only one page working.. the one, which i open first after clearing cache
16:49 xaver ?
16:50 james` i have a problem with the tt_news extension
16:50 james` i have two pages
16:51 james` with tt_news plugins
16:51 james` if i clear the cache and go to page1.. it is working
16:51 james` but page2 not
16:51 james` if i clear the cache and go to page2.. it is working
16:51 james` but page1 not
17:07 bacardi_ hi
17:07 jks I'm trying to setup templavoila for a new Typo3 site... I followed the instructions and can see in the backend under TemplaVoila that I have a page header with data structures and template objects... and I have assigned the template structure and design to my front page - I can add content, but none of it show up when I access the page. Can anyone help?
17:08 jks (none of my template in general is sent to the web browser)
17:09 bacardi_ is typo3 ligh a ligh version of orginal typo3 or is it a own project
17:10 bacardi_ ok its own
17:10 bacardi_ sorry for question
17:10 maholtz|WORK @bacardi_ np:)
17:11 maholtz|WORK afaik someone who had a look at TYPO3 thought, he could take some ideas and make an much simpler CMS ...
17:11 jks am I wrong in trying to use TemplaVoila? - is it generally preferred that you add templates otherwise?
17:11 snoy_ms bacardi_: http://www.web-lovers.de/typolight-typo3-nur-abgespeckt-2/
17:11 snoy_ms bacardi_: its german article
17:11 bacardi_ some knows date for beta 3
17:11 bacardi_ of 4.4
17:11 snoy_ms didn't read it
17:12 bacardi_ 18.5 relase date for beta 3 but nothing new
17:13 maholtz|WORK this friday is bugday, so i would expect the next beta at monday or tuesday
17:13 bacardi_ i hope i can update between betas but dont know how
17:14 snoy_ms bacardi_: last date was 25.5
17:14 maholtz|WORK @bacardi_ there should be no problem to update between betas!
17:14 bacardi_ is in the backend a update function
17:14 maholtz|WORK just update like every other version...
17:14 bacardi_ ?
17:15 maholtz|WORK no - you have to update manually (shell or ftp upload)
17:15 bacardi_ simply overrite all files
17:15 bacardi_ ?
17:15 bacardi_ overwrite
17:17 maholtz|WORK if you did not use an symlink, yes - i prefere to use symlinks, that it is pretty easy to switch between versions. If you do not use symlinks, you need to update typo3/ t3lib/ and index.php (afaik) but there should be a readme
17:18 maholtz|WORK have to leave now, bye
17:26 bacardi_ im not really sure if its the right choice for sportclub typo3
17:27 bacardi_ hi hardphuck master of disaster
17:27 bacardi_ :)
17:30 bacardi_ maybe typo3 is to difficult for redakteurs?
17:34 StaffanE bacardi_: not hard for an editor, but hard for a designer to grasp within a reasonable time.
17:34 StaffanE bacardi_: but depends on the needs
17:36 bacardi_ its really hard , but i want to do it and sell it for sportclub the design is very bad
17:37 bacardi_ i sell it for a free lifetime membership in sportclub and free swimmingbath entry
17:37 bacardi_ :)
17:37 bacardi_ is it a good or bad deal?
17:40 bacardi_ no comments?
17:40 bacardi_ :)
17:41 nd__ depends on how often you'd like to swim
17:41 bacardi_ every day swimmigbath is 1 km away from me
17:42 nd__ entry fee is 3 EUR, so every day makes 5 days a week times four for a month times four for good weather season equals 240 EUR
17:43 nd__ that'd be a little over three hours if you take the rate of 76 EUR for german designers
17:43 nd__ If you're new to typo3 I'd say you need something like three to six weeks to build that site
17:43 bacardi_ nd do u think http://www.sv-nienhagen.de/ need a re-design
17:44 bacardi_ ?`we have both indoor and outdoor
17:44 nd__ Which would cost around 10.000 EUR
17:44 nd__ (same rate)
17:44 nd__ therefor, you'd need to use the bath for 41 years
17:45 nd__ so, well, go ahead if you REALLY like to swim :D
17:45 nd__ and yes, they do need a redesign
17:45 bacardi_ look very old styel
17:45 bacardi_ 10 years ago the design was ok
17:46 bacardi_ :)
17:46 bacardi_ maybe the deal is not good if bath closed
17:47 bacardi_ its a risk
17:47 nd__ What do you guess  do they close in the next 41 years?
17:48 nd__ because if it's later... say in 60 years, it's no problem for you.. only them
17:48 bacardi_ yes
17:49 bacardi_ do u think typo3 is the righ choice for it
17:50 nd__ if you're new to it, don't expect a running system soon... be prepared to read a lot etc.
17:51 nd__ apart from that, sure... why not. If it's necessary is another question...
17:51 nd__ Anyhow, gotta go... take care and good luck
17:51 bacardi_ im really new . install typo3 needs 6 weeks
17:53 bacardi_ i will try it i think
17:54 bacardi_ its just for fun and if they like it we can make a deal
18:33 jks can anyone recommend the best way to start making templates for typo3?
19:08 snoy_ms jks: ?
19:09 snoy_ms jks: take an html template and map it via templavoila
19:26 snoy_ms jks: you can take any kind of html...
19:29 jks snoy_ms, thanks... that's what I tried - I just encountered a number of "weird stuff" so I thought there might be a better way or something like that
19:30 jks perhaps you can help me out... when using the templavoila wizard I can get it working properly - although only with a single "main content" element and a menu... if I try to do it manually, I end up with the frontpage displaying none of my template - even thought it is selected, and everything is mapped up, etc.
19:33 snoy_ms jks: there is a tutorial or video "modern template building", did you already compare your steps ?
19:33 jks snoy_ms, yes, I have tried following that as well as a few other tutorials
19:34 jks perhaps I should try once more now that I have everything working through the wizard
19:34 snoy_ms jks: did you check the template root page properties?
19:34 jks sony_ms, yes, I have selected the both the template and the design
19:35 snoy_ms jks: did you include the typoscript ?
19:35 jks (i.e. "Page Template Structure" and "Use Template Design")
19:35 jks snoy_ms, yes, I did
19:35 snoy_ms jks: i mean typoscript
19:36 jks snoy_ms, yes
19:36 jks the one with: "page.10.userFunc = tx_templavoila_pi1->main_page" etc.
19:36 snoy_ms ok
19:36 jks perhaps I should just try again from the top
19:36 snoy_ms did you include "css styled content" within static templates ?
19:36 jks yes
19:38 snoy_ms mhh, i think you missed something
19:38 jks I must have, yes... hmm
19:39 snoy_ms page = PAGE
19:39 snoy_ms page.10 = USER
19:39 snoy_ms page.10.userFunc = tx_templavoila_pi1->main_page
19:39 snoy_ms you did this within the root template ?
19:39 jks yes?
19:40 snoy_ms and it didn't display anything ?
19:40 jks it output code, but nothing between the body tags, no
19:41 jks perhaps I misspelled something in there or something like that
19:41 snoy_ms it output code ??
19:41 jks yes? like normal?
19:42 snoy_ms thats not normal
19:42 jks I mean like the doctype header, the html and head tags, the comment that the website is powered by typo3, etc.
19:42 jks so it wasn't blank plage as in "nothing came out of the web server"... but rather nothing inside the body tag
19:44 snoy_ms check if you did the mapping correct
19:45 snoy_ms ...and compare it with the tutorial.
19:45 snoy_ms jks: sounds like templavoila mapping
19:46 jks hmm, okay... I'll try the whole thing again and take care with the mapping
19:49 james` hi
19:50 james` can anyone help me with my tt_news problem
19:50 james` ?
19:50 james` my setup: i have a data storage with my news categories and my news...
19:50 james` i have two pages
19:51 james` page1: tt_news plugin
19:51 james` page2: tt_news plugin
19:51 james` if i clear the cache and open page1, page2 doesnt show content/news
19:51 james` sam other way around
19:52 james` *same
19:56 snoy_ms james`: sounds like a wired caching problem
19:58 snoy_ms james`: did you check for official bugs ?
19:58 james` no
19:58 james` but in other sites it works
19:58 zebarto good evening
20:00 snoy_ms james`: muti language problems ?
20:00 snoy_ms james`: mhh, never had something like that
20:01 james` maybe its a problem with my extension templates?
20:01 snoy_ms james`: take the default one to test it...
20:02 james` which is the standard way to include ext templates?
20:02 james` and: can i use the automaketemplate twice?
20:02 james` no
20:03 snoy_ms james`: depends on extension. Sometimes within the extension. But in every case via typoscript
20:03 james` just the first questioon
20:03 james` maybe there is a problem
20:03 snoy_ms does it work without an own template ?
20:03 james` it wont
20:04 snoy_ms this must work
20:04 snoy_ms did you include the static tempate ?
20:04 snoy_ms static template for tt_news ?
20:04 james` http://paste.phlogi.net/-36b8933336/
20:05 snoy_ms james`: i mean the the "CSS-based tmpl (tt_news)"
20:05 james` this is, what my extension template at my home-site looks like
20:05 james` the tt_news works
20:06 james` the tt_news template i mean
20:06 james` i havent 2 pages.. i have more...
20:06 snoy_ms you mean its works, but you have this wired problem..
20:06 zebarto i've got a newbie question: i'm making changes to the templates "index.html" file, but these changes are not adopted to the site
20:06 james` yes
20:06 zebarto is this the wrong way of doing changes?
20:06 snoy_ms zebarto: templa vooila ?
20:07 zebarto no, i'm figuring out templa voila right now
20:07 zebarto but until now not really sure what this does
20:07 snoy_ms in both cases you have to clean up your cache.
20:07 zebarto aah
20:07 zebarto ok
20:07 zebarto the button on the upper right...
20:07 snoy_ms zebarto: with templa voila you also have to do one step more
20:07 snoy_ms yes
20:08 snoy_ms james`: mhh
20:08 james` there is another wired thing
20:08 james` i have another site
20:08 james` nothing to do with tt_news
20:08 james` i mean another page
20:08 james` if i clear the cache
20:08 james` and open this site
20:08 james` both other wont work
20:08 zebarto thanks snoy_ms
20:09 snoy_ms zebarto: your welcome
20:09 snoy_ms james`: site online ?
20:09 james` yes
20:09 snoy_ms james`: can you give me a link. sorry don't realy understand the problem...must see it
21:40 dbugger hey guys!
21:40 dbugger Can someone please tell me how to do it so that the when I access for first time my page, the index of one of the subpages loads automatically?
21:53 tomreyn hi. is there a way to have typo3 v4.1.3 salt the md5 hashes in the be_user and fe_user databases?
21:54 tomreyn also, does it support another hashing algorythm?
21:54 tomreyn i am aware that 4.1.3 is outdated, but it's still supported by some linux distros
21:55 tomreyn actually i'm talking about v4.1.13, nt 4.1.3, sorry
21:55 tomreyn actually i'm talking about v4.1.13, not 4.1.3, sorry
22:23 tomreyn is there a more official channel than this one?
22:23 tomreyn or is it just a bit calm right now? i'm wondering whether others can actually read me...
22:42 tomsdale I can read you tomreyn. lot's of the guys here are european so they probably drink beer by now :-)
22:43 tomsdale or whatever you do after work.
22:44 tomreyn while investigating an intrusion
22:45 tomsdale that's when I would need a Schnaps I think !
22:46 tomreyn that's be too much to keep working
22:46 tomsdale intrusion into a typo3 website?
22:46 tomreyn y
22:46 tomsdale schnapps for the shock though
22:46 tomsdale which version tomreyn?
22:47 tomreyn ...due to a vulnerable custom extension (sql injection)
22:47 tomreyn v4.1.13
23:13 bacardi_ nothing is harder as install typo3
23:13 bacardi_ :)
23:34 nd___ hmm
23:34 nd___ somebody had this problem today: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=1274
23:35 bacardi_ nd have an idea for free template for typo3
23:48 bacardi_ nd`?

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