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00:11 ironm wow .. beta2 already :-)
00:18 Denyerek Are the image links on this broken: http://typo3.org/news-single-view/?tx_newsimporter_pi1%5BshowItem%5D=0&tx_newsimporter_pi1%5Bfeed%5D=10&cHash=c5554a06e2#single
00:18 Denyerek ?
00:22 Thasmo Denyerek yes, some1 already noted this on the mailing list.
00:23 Denyerek Ahh ok
00:23 Denyerek wondered if it was my updated Opera freaking out
07:29 PiMB morning
07:46 proserion hello again
07:46 PiMB hello
07:47 proserion Small question, is there an alternative to the RTE editor, or is it possible lern it, how to use tabs.
07:47 PiMB there are alternative
07:48 PiMB 's
07:48 PiMB haven't used them
07:48 proserion Would you say, that RTE is one of the best of them?
07:48 PiMB but I know tinymce / tinyrte
07:48 PiMB depends on what you're used to I guess
07:48 PiMB i've used it on hundreds of projects now. so..
08:05 proserion I would love to use tabs insteat of tables, and htmlAREA is simply incapapable
08:06 PiMB tabs? in your html?
08:06 PiMB you might be able to configure it to use custom html input
08:07 proserion Have a look at this, and you what I mean http://web2.fairstickers.com/index.php?id=354
08:08 PiMB okay, looking at it.
08:08 PiMB this is what you want?
08:09 proserion I would like to align the numbers straight, if possible without a table
08:09 PiMB use 2 divs
08:09 PiMB float them left.
08:09 PiMB fixed width, your done
08:10 proserion Hmm, gotta check that out, thanks
08:11 ndee hey there
08:12 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:12 PiMB hi
08:17 FloLeBlanc how's everyone :)
08:18 ndee I have an external url link which is different, depending on the language but I can't add an external link in the alternative page language. Any ideas?
08:19 FloLeBlanc ndee: you can't add it in the RTE?
08:19 PiMB FloLeBlanc doing just fine
08:19 FloLeBlanc I would have thought that should work
08:21 ndee FloLeBlanc: the page type is "External URL"
08:21 FloLeBlanc ndee: ah sorry, you want to link directly via the menu?
08:21 PiMB ah, so page type is external url. which you've added a url, but this should be a different one depending on language.
08:25 ndee FloLeBlanc: exactly.
08:25 ndee PiMB: exactly. Looks like solved in 4.3 but I'm still on 4.2.12 :/
08:27 FloLeBlanc http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?tx_terfe_pi1%5Bview%5D=search&no_cache=1&tx_terfe_pi1%5Bsword%5D=altern_lang_page_link
08:27 FloLeBlanc perhaps this old ext can help?
08:27 FloLeBlanc if you don't want to update
08:27 PiMB ndee, no patch for it?
08:27 ndee PiMB: there is one but that's for 4.2.6, have to try it though.
08:27 PiMB you could create a custom ext to extend the alternative page language
08:28 FloLeBlanc does indexed_search create an index of the page for each state too? It seems my startpage is indexed twice for "with login" and "without login"
08:28 FloLeBlanc but that's a rough guess
08:30 PiMB I believe so
08:49 FloLeBlanc does anyone have experiences with accessible_is_browse_results? the page navigation of indexed_search won't work for me with real_url
09:17 ironm Good mornig guys :-) - I have some difficulties to set a https Login/Register-link using _realurl_ and _https_enforcer_ - I hope you can give me at least some hints - thank you very much in advance! :-)
09:18 ironm The problem description and all config-details are in http://paste.debian.net/72369/
09:20 ironm I have checked until now _tons_ of altavista and google links due to configuration issues but was until now not quite successful :-/
09:23 ironm well .. I guess you all are still sleeping .. I will ask again later ;-)
09:24 FloLeBlanc I'm not sleeping but I have no clue sorry :)
09:24 ironm Good mornig lindbergh :-) - I have some difficulties to set a https Login/Register-link using _realurl_ and _https_enforcer_ - I hope you can give me at least some hints - thank you very much in advance! :-)
09:24 ironm The problem description and all config-details are in http://paste.debian.net/72369/
09:24 PiMB sorry ironm
09:25 ironm thank you FloLeBlanc and PiMB :-)
09:25 PiMB i'm working my way throught your paste, but no luck mate
09:25 ironm PiMB: I guess this topic should be quite interesting for most of typo3 people ..
09:27 FloLeBlanc ironm: I thought most ppl just use javascript client side md5 hashing
09:27 FloLeBlanc +-
09:27 FloLeBlanc sorry, cleaning keyboard ;)
09:27 ironm just like a https link for Login/Register FloLeBlanc ?
09:29 FloLeBlanc ironm: the version I use has a JS function that hashes the password on the client side and does only submit the md5 hash (only md5 is stored in the db and compared)
09:29 FloLeBlanc if you have a store though I guess https is better
09:30 ironm well .. does it use an ssl-connection for registering and login purposes FloLeBlanc ?
09:30 FloLeBlanc no
09:30 ironm that is the point FloLeBlanc ;-)
09:30 FloLeBlanc yeah but what I stated above is that this is perhaps not a common case for t3 users because they find md5 client sided sufficient
09:32 FloLeBlanc and that could be why it is hard to find info on that case :)
09:33 ironm I have found some links .. and tried different configurations .. but it doesn't work as expected ...
09:33 FloLeBlanc :(
09:34 ironm maybe I have somewhere in the config some understanding problems FloLeBlanc
09:35 SonnyToo how to detect, if submenu directory is hidden?
09:36 ironm morning SargoDarya
09:36 SargoDarya mornin ironm
09:36 SargoDarya wow, up so early?
09:37 ironm yes SargoDarya ... realurl / https_enforcer don't let me sleep ;-)
09:42 maholtz|WORK morning
09:42 ironm in case it is more easy to read the content using this link: http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/error_realurl_https_enforcer_p/
09:43 ironm well .. this one should be a bit better: http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/error_realurl_https_enforcer_p-1/
09:44 maholtz|WORK SonnyToo: not in menu? or hidden? well, perhaps explain what you want to get?
09:44 maholtz|WORK there is an option in Menu includeNotInMenu
09:45 SonnyToo My site tree is built up like this: Main page, ..., Contact, Partners (hide in menu)
09:47 SonnyToo Now if i click a link like Products, i can see submenu like Category 1, 2, 3...
09:47 SonnyToo Partners are displayed all the time at the right corner but if i click on my first partner, the submenu of PARTNERS are displayed aswell
09:49 SonnyToo so i need to do something like this: IF menu.isHidden THEN do nothing, ELSE display submenu links
09:58 FloLeBlanc hmm the javascript for indexed_search page browsing does not work due to a missing name atribute, but the name attribute is not even included in the default template? is this a known bug?
10:00 ironm FloLeBlanc: it looks like before you can run typo3 as you like you have to be a good PHP and Javascript programmer .. (perhaps also SQL ;-)
10:01 FloLeBlanc ironm: the problem is not that I can't change the template, the issue is why does 4.3.3 provide it like that in the first way?
10:02 ironm hard life ;-)
10:10 FloLeBlanc *reworks the "bug" into his template*
10:20 compojoom hey guys! You my latest hope :)
10:20 compojoom when I try to see my typo3 database through phpmyadmin most of the hash tables show an error
10:20 compojoom #1286 - Unknown table engine 'InnoDB'
10:21 FloLeBlanc so we are obi van kenoby?
10:21 FloLeBlanc ah the latest not the last :)
10:21 compojoom yep, you got the power :D
10:21 ironm compojoom: can you login to the DB using mysql? .. like: mysql -u <user_name> -p<Password>
10:22 FloLeBlanc http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?22,150623,150967#msg-150967
10:22 compojoom FloLeBlanc: I'm reading it
10:22 PiMB damn FloLeBlanc, you where quicker
10:22 PiMB had the same exact link
10:22 compojoom first link in google :)
10:22 FloLeBlanc yep *G*
10:23 FloLeBlanc so does the fix work?
10:23 compojoom I don't know I have to get root access to the server - I can only access the site through the backend
10:23 compojoom the real url is not working
10:23 compojoom and I have the feeling that this db problem is causing it
10:23 FloLeBlanc well that makes things difficult
10:24 compojoom urldecodecache and encodecache show this error message
10:24 compojoom do you guys think that this could be the reason for wrong redirects?
10:25 jessicaD Hi, are there any crawler experts here?
10:25 jessicaD The Site crawler is working really good in my site and I need some guidance from a true expert
10:26 PiMB don't consider myself an expert
10:26 PiMB but what is the problem?
10:28 Denyerek Hey FLo :)
10:33 FloLeBlanc hi denyerek
10:33 jessicaD PiMB: Well I crawled my website
10:33 jessicaD but it isn't getting the pages I want it to crawl. I defined the GET vars
10:34 jessicaD and he says he found the URL's
10:34 jessicaD and then I process them, and then try to search for something I just processed successfully but he doesn't find anything
10:38 PiMB alright
10:38 PiMB but the pages are viewable?
10:46 Guest1446 hi how do i upgrade from 3.5.0 to 4.3? is it possible?
10:46 PiMB never seen it done
10:46 PiMB but step by step I guess
10:46 PiMB and backup by backup :)
10:46 Guest1446 im trying to help someone with an old version
10:46 Guest1446 their host just upgraded their php version
10:46 PiMB http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Upgrade
10:47 PiMB this one only goes back as far as 3.8
10:47 PiMB but might be usefull?
10:47 Guest1446 and it has messed everything up: i get this error: Cannot find configuration. This file is probably executed from the wrong location.
10:52 teppi|work Guest1446, as PiMB said you should upgrade step by step and not directly from 3.5.0 to 4.3
10:52 snoy_ms Guest1446: never did such an upgrade 3.5.0 -> 4.3. If this site is a small one. Think about a relaunch. I think upgrading could need the same time.....
10:54 Guest1446 ok thanks, ill give it a try. i cant redo the site because they use flash too and it would be just too big of a project (which im doing free of charge)
10:54 jessicaD PiMB: sorry for the late reaction. But yes the pages are viewable. They are generated by an extension with a GET var
10:54 jessicaD and that's why I needed the crawleer
10:55 Guest1446 there isnt a simple way to fix the "Cannot find configuration. This file is probably executed from the wrong location." instead of doing a million upgrades?
10:56 Guest1446 the site is j-diva.no . if you click on news you come to a page that gives that error (ctrl+a to see it)
10:56 teppi|work Guest1446, you will run into several other issues after that ..
10:56 snoy_ms Guest1446: i don't think that this is the only problem if you upgrade direct from 3.5 to 4.3
10:56 Guest1446 ok
10:57 binom23 Has anybody of you experiences with Transaction
10:57 binom23 Can I use it with t3lib_db
10:58 binom23 Is there an possible "Hack"?
11:03 bigcalm Hi :) I'm having a problem with tmenu_layers display. I have a horizontal menu on two lines each item is floating left. When I hover over an item, the 2nd level menu appears in the same location for each item. If I make the menu items inline and remove the float, the 2nd level works correctly, but the 1st level is all wrong. Does anybody have any suggestions?
11:15 Guest1446 thanks for the suggestions everybody =)
11:15 Guest1446 good bye
11:23 sorenmalling Anyone here worked with switchableControllerActions from TypoScript and not flexform?
11:33 randomresult hi there
11:33 randomresult someone knows how to tell the cat-menü of tt-news where my list page is?
11:34 ironm hi randomresult .. no idea
11:34 randomresult cause i have the catmenu also displayed in the single view of the news...
11:34 randomresult when i click on the menu, it reloads this site... but theres no listview :)
11:43 randomresult solution: TS-Setup plugin.tt_news.catSelectorTargetPid = 11
11:43 randomresult :)
11:44 sirm hello
11:47 FloLeBlanc randomresult: sorry saw it too late :)
11:47 randomresult hehe
11:47 randomresult googel is my friend
11:47 FloLeBlanc google is evil
11:47 FloLeBlanc don't know about googel ;)
11:48 sirm i could need some help with the t3 installation. i run apache ans mysql on a win system. complete new installation (localhost, root, no pw). typo3 123installer stops after 1st step with "No database selected" (no box or style, only plain text). can anybody help?
11:48 PiMB is it normal behavior that when i'm creating things in draft workspace, I don't have access to the filelist?
11:48 PiMB (all accesses are properly set, like normal, when it does work :) )
11:48 PiMB brb
12:05 Provito PIMB yes this is normal, I have a patch in bugs.typo3.org changing this
12:05 Provito so that it respects the file admin settings for normal permissions
12:29 PiMB Provito, good to hear..
12:29 PiMB might I ask for a link to the patch?
12:29 Provito I'll find it now
12:29 PiMB thanks mate!
12:30 Provito http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=13763
12:30 Provito patched for typo3 4.3.3
12:31 PiMB running on 4.2.12 so no problem there
12:44 PiMB strange.
12:44 PiMB can't get the patch to go
13:12 animan hi. can anyone assist me with making a GMENU gallery that shows images from subpages?
13:15 snoy_ms animan: i did something like that with using HMENU and media fields from subpages.
13:15 snoy_ms animan: i think you want something differnt
13:15 animan yes, my images should come from simple content elements
13:16 animan the GMENU (or whatever menu type) should be as gallery selection that shows first image from every subpage with cropping option
13:18 aterriblechaos animan: have a look at http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/articles/explaining-the-content-object.html , second example
13:21 snoy_ms animan: for cropping use IMAGE
13:24 animan doesn't that second example use image from media fields as well?
13:26 aterriblechaos no, it uses the image from tt_content
13:31 ndee is there a quick way to create a fe-user record from an extension?
13:33 PiMB $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->exec_INSERTquery($table,$fields_values,$no_quote_fields=FALSE);
13:33 PiMB $table = 'fe_users';
13:33 PiMB $fields_values = array( field => value );
13:35 ndee PiMB: thx.
13:35 PiMB np mate :)
13:36 PiMB take a look at the dbal extensie
13:36 snoy_ms PiMB: is it also pissible to use this extbase class within an pibase class ? http://extbase.foertel.com/doc/API/index.html?Extbase/Domain/Model/class-Tx_Extbase_Domain_Model_FrontendUser.html
13:37 PiMB not sure mate, I haven't worked with extbase yet
13:37 PiMB Prot0, care to ellaborate?
13:39 animan aterriblechaos: I use ytposcript_code ext to put TS directly to page (as a regular content element), but I suppose that code needs some modification to use it that way?
13:39 animan typoscript_code
13:40 animan at this point it doesn't show me anything :(
14:02 Prot0 PiMB: sorry m8, was out for lunch :]
14:02 Prot0 havent worked with Extbase yet either
14:02 Prot0 too many projects atm to play around :]
14:41 desy hi guys one question to tmenu_layers div offset.
14:41 desy ff presentates right, ie8 have an offset of 1px
14:42 desy how can i fix it
14:45 desy i set my tmenu_layers relativetotriggeritem
14:45 desy nobody an idea
15:00 influenjaa I have my Typo3 in a server where ImageMagick is installed and running but why Typo3 tells me that "No ImageMagick installation available"?
15:08 Prot0 influenjaa: check your install tool
15:08 Prot0 under basic setup
15:18 influenjaa im_path is empty
15:18 influenjaa im_version_5 is empty
15:21 influenjaa i guess my host didnt have it installed propertly
15:23 Prot0 maybe its installed in a different directory
15:24 influenjaa Got it working... it seems that you need the newest version of ImageMagick for Typo3
16:03 animan aterriblechaos: OK, got it showing a subpage, but it doesn't want to show the image from subpage.. any ideas?
16:03 ironm is there already any documentation for typo3 4.4?
16:15 Prot0 no but i guess the documentation for 4.3 will do for most of it
16:25 ironm thank you Prot0 :) ... until now it looks similar (4.4) ... can I use the same extensions as for 4.3.3?
16:26 Prot0 yes but can't guarantuee it will 100% bug free :-)
16:26 Prot0 and you will probably get dependency warnings upon installation
16:26 Prot0 think most of them will work just fine though :-)
16:26 ironm Prot0: I have some difficulties to get realurl / https_enforcer working for 4.3.3 .. so I would try to test it with 4.4
16:26 Prot0 at least the popular ones
16:27 Prot0 dont think that will solve your problems though m8 :)
16:27 ironm I am afraid it too ;-)
16:28 ironm Prot0: I have change a bit the structure of directories for the 4.4 installation ...
16:28 ironm +d
16:28 Prot0 :)
16:28 Prot0 just know that 4.4 is beta, so you shouldnt use it for any live website
16:28 ironm 4.3.3 is working a bit random with the content of http / https links ;-)
16:33 ironm Prot0: in case you like to look in such realurl/https_enforcer configuration: http://www.phlogi.net/f/t3/tsp/sp/realurl_https/
16:35 ironm maybe you can find some bugs Prot0 ;-)
16:35 Prot0 i got to go now
16:35 ironm have a nice weekend :-)
16:36 Prot0 thanks
16:36 Prot0 perhaps i will be around in 1h ;-)
16:36 jessicaD Hi! Can I throw away the tem
16:36 jessicaD temp files in the typoconf folder?
16:36 jessicaD Cause it's giving me an error
16:39 ironm I don't know jessicaD .. but you can make a copy of them and remove them .. and see what will happen ;-)
16:40 SargoDarya does someone of you know if there is a function in php which lets you split the keys and the values of an array into a seperate array so instead of array("key1"=>"val1", "key2"=>"val2") I get array("key1", "key2") and array("val1", "val2");
16:41 ironm SargoDarya: I am sure there is one .. the guys from #php should now it ;-)
16:41 ironm know ...
16:41 SargoDarya Well, apparently it's to easy
16:41 aterriblechaos array_keys and array_values SargoDarya
16:41 SargoDarya yea
16:41 SargoDarya just found it, thank aterriblechaos
16:42 aterriblechaos jessicaD: you can delete the temp* in typo3conf, they are generated by typo3 .. but having a error there means usually a extension or something is causing trouble
16:42 SargoDarya Had to write a function which works like the typo3 substituteMarkerArray but the only difference is it should replace it into a file
16:43 aterriblechaos animan: still having the problem? are you using templavoila? the snippet i postet you only works with traditional image/text with image and not with fce's
16:49 jessicaD ironm: I did :) and removing them solved my problem
16:49 ironm hi randomresult ... realy nice nickname! .. like the results of my typo3 work ;-)
16:50 ironm jessicaD: congratulation .. I was deleting sometimes cache files .. I mean from typo3conf ...
16:50 ironm and didn't get any problems jessicaD ;-)
16:50 jessicaD Thanks!
16:50 jessicaD Now for my real problem... I just can't figure out how to crawl my page into the indexed search
16:51 jessicaD I have configured site crawler
16:51 jessicaD and it crawls the urls
16:51 jessicaD but it's not re indexing the indexed search table
16:51 jessicaD anyone had the same problem?
16:52 ironm I didn't use site crawler until now jessicaD
16:52 jessicaD ironm but site crawler works for you?
16:53 ironm only indexed search .. I didn't install any site crawler jessicaD
16:54 aterriblechaos indexed search problems are usually caused by an extension that sets no cache
16:54 jessicaD yes, I have a few extensions who have no cache
16:54 jessicaD but I want them to be indexed.
16:55 ironm aterriblechaos: I didn't have real problems .. the results were a bit strange .. just the menu links ;-)
16:55 jessicaD So someone told me to use site crawler
16:56 aterriblechaos afaik indexed search does not work with non cached extensions, crawler only helps indexing
16:59 jessicaD how can I tell them to cache? Is that a script which I can add?
17:01 ironm maybe there are such setting options jessicaD .. when you check them with the constants editor for such extensions
17:01 jessicaD I've read that I should add some code before making a link
17:02 ironm can be ... I don't know ...
17:08 aterriblechaos usually it is not that simple to change a extension to use cache.. but i was wrong. according to http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Crawler crawler indexes also no cache pages
17:16 aterriblechaos hm other sources say that also crawler does not help indexing USER_INT extension, thats also what i thought
17:16 aterriblechaos you should search which extensions are user_int and try if indexing is working if you disable them
17:22 jessicaD What do you mean with user_int?
17:23 aterriblechaos a typo3 extension can eighter be user (means cached) or user_int (no cached)
17:24 jessicaD and is the var also called that
17:24 jessicaD cause I can search that then
17:26 aterriblechaos ah ok. for user_int you have to configure crawler in the page tsconfig of the plugin, for example in single view for tt_news
17:27 aterriblechaos you should search your extensions for $TSFE->set_no_cache , that one disables caching (and indexing) globaly
17:27 jessicaD aterriblechaos: where do you see the example of tt_news?
17:27 jessicaD Cause may be I can config the extension that way
17:30 jessicaD aterriblechaos: I also see $TSFE->set_no_cache in the extension
17:30 jessicaD if I turn this off
17:30 jessicaD it will automatically cache the extension?
17:31 aterriblechaos no, it want cache the extension but maybe after that indexed search works
17:32 jessicaD how can I force indexing?
17:34 aterriblechaos afaik you can't: indexed search works flawlessy on anything thats cached, you cant force it to index non cached results
17:35 jessicaD I turned off $TSFE->set_no_cache
17:35 jessicaD If I search for something in that extension
17:35 jessicaD it should find it now roght
17:35 jessicaD right?
17:36 aterriblechaos only if it is cached, you have to run crawler or index it from frontend
18:16 af_ just upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3 with system wizard. Unable to find "clear FE cache" . where is now?
18:41 animan aterriblechaos: sry, back now. Yes, I'm using TV :/
20:28 slyngex hello. what's a good typo3 hosting ? thanks

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